Who should I call to order a truckload of dirt for my yard?
Where do you guys buy sod?
I don't sod, I over seed.
What kind of grass are you wanting to grow?
Gem Dirt.....Easton Sod....
As far as Top Soil, there is Owasso Top Soil 6606 N. Mingo Valley Expway 918-272-2977
They are just North of Bird Creek so it is creek bottom soil.
Jet Trucking also has top soil, again they are located next to Bird Creek however on Mingo Road.
6841 N. Mingo Rd
918-272-2275
Thanks. Your name is kind of unnerving. :o Unreliablesource? ;D haha why did you pick that?
I need sod for shaded, or partial shaded areas.
Was told it's too late to seed? ???
Thanks also for the top soil recommendations.
Avoid sandy loam!!!
Get real dirt. Top soil.
And no, it is not too late for seed. Shady won't support bermuda, though. Fescue most likely.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on March 27, 2011, 01:49:18 PM
Avoid sandy loam!!!
Get real dirt. Top soil.
And no, it is not too late for seed. Shady won't support bermuda, though. Fescue most likely.
Be prepared to water Fescue when it gets hot. I agree about Bermuda and shade. They don't play well together. Most of our yard was Bermuda in 1971. Then the trees grew up and made shade.
Have pretty good luck with Zoysia in shade, but never from seed or even plugs. Have always had to use sod to get it started. Not sure why, cause plugs should do well.
Haven't tried buffalo grass, but I think it will need mostly sun, too.
I don't like fescue except in pasture, but it does seem to work under a tree. Like RA said, lots of water, though. Trees suck up most of it.
I know we'll be away for various portions of summer so the watering will not be as frequent as needed for that type of grass. Bermuda and weeds are what my yard is made up of now.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on March 27, 2011, 01:49:18 PM
Avoid sandy loam!!!
Get real dirt. Top soil.
And no, it is not too late for seed. Shady won't support bermuda, though. Fescue most likely.
Not too late to seed. Germ temp for fescue is 55 or lower and we are below that at night. This is actually the very best time to seed a fescue lawn. Will also save you a ton of money!!!!
Quote from: Gaspar on March 28, 2011, 08:41:50 AM
Not too late to seed. Germ temp for fescue is 55 or lower and we are below that at night. This is actually the very best time to seed a fescue lawn. Will also save you a ton of money!!!!
In my experience, the best time to plant fescue is in the fall. I'd still try to overseed now though.
Why not sandy loam? I've had no problem with it.
Quote from: Gaspar on March 28, 2011, 08:41:50 AM
Not too late to seed. Germ temp for fescue is 55 or lower and we are below that at night. This is actually the very best time to seed a fescue lawn. Will also save you a ton of money!!!!
Fall is the best time to seed a fescue yard because that allows for more mature root growth before the heat of summer zaps the grass, but you can certainly drop seed now...just remember to water it in the heat.
Quote from: carltonplace on March 28, 2011, 11:39:09 AM
Fall is the best time to seed a fescue yard because that allows for more mature root growth before the heat of summer zaps the grass, but you can certainly drop seed now...just remember to water it in the heat.
As long as you have an irrigation system spring seeding is not a problem. The goal is not to over-fertilize and under-water if you seed in the spring, otherwise you get shallow roots that don't work very hard for nutrients.
The new varieties of fescue are far more aggressive in root growth and less clumpy over time. I used to only seed in the fall and get about 75% return in the spring, but in the last few years with Tulsa II and some of the other blends I get near 100% in both the fall and spring.
Do not buy Pennington products unless you like crabgrass!
Quote from: Gaspar on March 28, 2011, 12:27:45 PM
As long as you have an irrigation system spring seeding is not a problem. The goal is not to over-fertilize and under-water if you seed in the spring, otherwise you get shallow roots that don't work very hard for nutrients.
The new varieties of fescue are far more aggressive in root growth and less clumpy over time. I used to only seed in the fall and get about 75% return in the spring, but in the last few years with Tulsa II and some of the other blends I get near 100% in both the fall and spring.
Do not buy Pennington products unless you like crabgrass!
We don't have an irrigation system so under-watering wouldn't be a problem. What is Tulsa II, is it good in shade, and where is it for sale?
Quote from: Red Arrow on March 28, 2011, 12:34:38 PM
We don't have an irrigation system so under-watering wouldn't be a problem. What is Tulsa II, is it good in shade, and where is it for sale?
It's a fescue blend. Available at Ace and other H&G stores (not the big boxes). The Crossfire blends are also very good.
Good in shade and they take the heat of the summer very well.
Quote from: Gaspar on March 28, 2011, 12:49:39 PM
It's a fescue blend. Available at Ace and other H&G stores (not the big boxes). The Crossfire blends are also very good.
Good in shade and they take the heat of the summer very well.
Thank you.
I had a good return from seeding last fall with one of the Rebel seeds.
TURoby,
Let me elaborate, cause the stuff can be a fantastic thing to use IF you treat properly.
Most of us (unless you are in bottom land near the river) have that gloppy old gumbo. Sandy loam is ok IF you turn it in to the existing soil - like with a roto-tiller. If you just put it on top to fill low spots, etc, you end up with a tiny little "pond" area where the sandy loam can absorb water quickly (better than a sponge) and it sits there on top of the gloppy stuff. (even worse if clay near surface). Nutrients are quickly leached out of the sandy loam, which can make people think they need to fertilize when they don't! (Most people NEVER need to fertilize IF they leave the clippings on the yard and have a good spring growth of white clover.)
To mix it in, till it, plow it, shovel it, or something mechanical to mix it with the dirt that is there. Sandy loam is a very good mechanical amendment to gloppy gumbo. But then you have to sod or seed or something. Side point; most of the sod you can get has its own layer of sandy loam in it since most of it is grown down by the river.
I've always used Kevin Davis for soil. In fact...just had 4 yards of garden soil delivered. He's off of 46th/Mingo. Super nice guy and very competitive on his prices.
Will give Kevin a call also.
I was reading through about the Fescue blend. I do need something that doesn't mind some shade.