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Title: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: TheTed on February 12, 2011, 12:26:01 PM
All this warm weather has me ready to find an old time ice cream parlor. Any suggestions? Do we have any of those in Tulsa, surrounding areas, or even the region.

Something like this.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3380/3613775983_b5a283a1ed.jpg)
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: TUalum0982 on February 12, 2011, 01:43:05 PM
Steves Sundries on Harvard and the BA.  In the back of the store is something similar to the picture above.  Havent been there in years though.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: joiei on February 12, 2011, 03:08:38 PM
Quote from: TUalum0982 on February 12, 2011, 01:43:05 PM
Steves Sundries on Harvard and the BA.  In the back of the store is something similar to the picture above.  Havent been there in years though.
Maybe you should break down and go check it out.   
http://www.stevessundrybooksmags.com/Steve%27s%20Fountain%20Menu.htm (http://www.stevessundrybooksmags.com/Steve%27s%20Fountain%20Menu.htm)
Give it a try instead of your favorite drive through for breakfast one day this week.   Eat Local.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: TheTed on February 12, 2011, 05:28:44 PM
I haven't been to Steve's in quite a while either. While it's nice, there's gotta be a real old-fashioned ice cream parlor somewhere within a couple hours drive of Tulsa. Some place with a dizzying array of ice cream options.

Crown Candy Kitchen in St. Louis is a favorite of mine.
http://crowncandykitchen.net/
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: waterboy on February 12, 2011, 05:38:23 PM
Is there still the one on Main Street in Broken Arrow? Can't remember the name but it was on a corner.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: sgrizzle on February 13, 2011, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: joiei on February 12, 2011, 03:08:38 PM
Maybe you should break down and go check it out.   
http://www.stevessundrybooksmags.com/Steve%27s%20Fountain%20Menu.htm (http://www.stevessundrybooksmags.com/Steve%27s%20Fountain%20Menu.htm)
Give it a try instead of your favorite drive through for breakfast one day this week.   Eat Local.

Would love to but they are yet another place that doesn't open soon enough. Even if you worked 8-5 you wouldn't have time to eat there.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: TUalum0982 on February 13, 2011, 02:41:35 PM
Quote from: joiei on February 12, 2011, 03:08:38 PM
Maybe you should break down and go check it out.   
http://www.stevessundrybooksmags.com/Steve%27s%20Fountain%20Menu.htm (http://www.stevessundrybooksmags.com/Steve%27s%20Fountain%20Menu.htm)
Give it a try instead of your favorite drive through for breakfast one day this week.   Eat Local.

maybe you should learn a little bit of respect and quit assuming things.  First and foremost, I work about 55hrs a week, I am up every morning around 445am and usually dont get home until about 4 or 430.  Secondly, I dont live or work anywhere near Steves.  Thanks for your opinion though. 
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: AngieB on February 13, 2011, 02:46:24 PM
I saw no disrespect in joiei's response. Sheesh, punchy.  ::)
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: Hoss on February 13, 2011, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: AngieBrumley on February 13, 2011, 02:46:24 PM
I saw no disrespect in joiei's response. Sheesh, punchy.  ::)

Agreed.  Unless you put out there that you are a workaholic, no one's the wiser.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: guido911 on February 13, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
Quote from: AngieBrumley on February 13, 2011, 02:46:24 PM
I saw no disrespect in joiei's response. Sheesh, punchy.  ::)

When I first read what joiei wrote I thought it was a bit off-putting. Kinda like TU was resistant to the idea of trying that place. But since this guy doesn't have a history of mindless attacks, I didn't give it any further thought.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: TUalum0982 on February 14, 2011, 05:45:32 AM
Quote from: guido911 on February 13, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
When I first read what joiei wrote I thought it was a bit off-putting. Kinda like TU was resistant to the idea of trying that place. But since this guy doesn't have a history of mindless attacks, I didn't give it any further thought.

just the way it was written, irritated me and rubbed me the wrong way.  And for the record, I do patronize local establishments such as jamils, hanks hamburgers, Freeway Cafe, Freddies, just to name a few.  Again, Steve's is no where near where I live or work, and the hours they operate, make it difficult for someone like myself to actually make it in there. 
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: DolfanBob on February 14, 2011, 09:33:42 AM
I've been to Steves for hard to find magazines, just never had a thought about eating there.
Oh wait. I did get a sandwich to go one time. Not much to impress, but then again it was just a sandwich.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: TeeDub on February 14, 2011, 09:37:42 AM
Quote from: waterboy on February 12, 2011, 05:38:23 PM
Is there still the one on Main Street in Broken Arrow? Can't remember the name but it was on a corner.

Petrik's...    That has been gone for years.   Now it is the Angus Inn.   Great steak place.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: Conan71 on February 14, 2011, 10:05:56 AM
I miss Swenson's.  Even though it was a franchise chain, I liked the product.

Unfortunately, the closest thing you might find to an old-fashioned creamery would be Maggie Moo's or Cold Stone Creamery.

The back counter at Steve's is a soda fountain, FAIK, they don't serve ice cream, at least not home-made if they do.  I was a carrier for the Tulsa Tribune about 35 years ago and picked up and folded my papers in front of Steve's every day.  NPC had a field distribution office in the back of the strip center.  I used to get a slice of apple or Boston Cream pie and/or a cherry phosphate soda just about every day before I'd start off on my paper route.  I loved that place, when I was a kid, it was our convenience store.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: sgrizzle on February 14, 2011, 12:17:42 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on February 14, 2011, 10:05:56 AM
I miss Swenson's.  Even though it was a franchise chain, I liked the product.

Unfortunately, the closest thing you might find to an old-fashioned creamery would be Maggie Moo's or Cold Stone Creamery.

The back counter at Steve's is a soda fountain, FAIK, they don't serve ice cream, at least not home-made if they do.  I was a carrier for the Tulsa Tribune about 35 years ago and picked up and folded my papers in front of Steve's every day.  NPC had a field distribution office in the back of the strip center.  I used to get a slice of apple or Boston Cream pie and/or a cherry phosphate soda just about every day before I'd start off on my paper route.  I loved that place, when I was a kid, it was our convenience store.

Cold Stone closed due to failure to pay rent and Maggie Moos became "Stadium Subs and Cream" and nothing spells failure like haphazard changing and diversification of the product line.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: Gaspar on February 14, 2011, 12:22:20 PM
Quote from: sgrizzle on February 14, 2011, 12:17:42 PM
Cold Stone closed due to failure to pay rent and Maggie Moos became "Stadium Subs and Cream" and nothing spells failure like haphazard changing and diversification of the product line.

+1
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: Conan71 on February 14, 2011, 01:14:49 PM
Quote from: sgrizzle on February 14, 2011, 12:17:42 PM
Cold Stone closed due to failure to pay rent and Maggie Moos became "Stadium Subs and Cream" and nothing spells failure like haphazard changing and diversification of the product line.

Some quick Googling makes it look like the owners severed their franchise agreement.  That could either be they weren't keeping in line with their franchise contract or MM corporate isn't the greatest people to work with. 

Either marketing is not their strong suit, or I'm not in their demographic.  I eat at Pei Wei next door to the one at King's Pointe and hadn't even noticed so much as a signage change.  I'm not much of an ice cream hound though so no real surprise I wouldn't notice.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: TeeDub on February 14, 2011, 01:15:24 PM

There are still a couple of Marble slab creameries left.    Never tried them before, anyone?
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: DolfanBob on February 14, 2011, 03:42:51 PM
Quote from: TeeDub on February 14, 2011, 01:15:24 PM
There are still a couple of Marble slab creameries left.    Never tried them before, anyone?

I tried the one out here by the Bass Pro. Way over priced for the Ice Cream. A Five Dollar waffle cone with two scoops.
I just needed to find out why they were so busy and everyone bragging about them. I'll stick with Braums or Baskin Robbins on S Sheridan.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: nathanm on February 14, 2011, 05:05:09 PM
Quote from: DolfanBob on February 14, 2011, 03:42:51 PM
I tried the one out here by the Bass Pro. Way over priced for the Ice Cream. A Five Dollar waffle cone with two scoops.
You missed the point. The point is the stuff that you can have them mix in with the ice cream. I'm not much one for it either, but it makes more sense when you realize it's more than literally two scoops of ice cream in a waffle cone for five bucks.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: DTowner on February 14, 2011, 05:18:15 PM
Quote from: nathanm on February 14, 2011, 05:05:09 PM
You missed the point. The point is the stuff that you can have them mix in with the ice cream. I'm not much one for it either, but it makes more sense when you realize it's more than literally two scoops of ice cream in a waffle cone for five bucks.

You're right - there is also some snot nosed teenager manhandling you ice cream for a few mintes on a "cold stone" before stuffing it in the waffle cone.  Somehow, it seems so underpriced!
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 14, 2011, 09:04:46 PM
Stone just isn't that great.  Yeah, cute experience once.  Braum's is much better.

If you go east into the southeast, find a drive-in or greasy spoon that sells Mayfield's ice cream.  Hand dipped.  Better than Braum's.  Not by a whole lot, but it is noticeable.

Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: PonderInc on February 15, 2011, 05:36:54 PM
Years ago, I spent a summer in Lexington, KY.  They still had an old-fashioned (original counter and fixtures) ice cream soda fountain in a historic downtown building.  I think it was originally a drug store.  You could plop down at the counter and order a shake, or a root beer float, or some magical thing that involved lime sherbet and 7-up...

I've always thought that this could work on Cherry Street or in downtown Tulsa.

Now, I've expanded that idea:  I think it would be cool to engage a bunch of local model train enthusists to combine a sort of model train museum with an ice cream parlor.  The train guys could build elaborate model train displays and change them with the seasons.  That would bring in families to see the different sets and enjoy ice cream at the same time.

It would also add a lot of interest and bring in folks to buy ice cream that would normally settle for a Braums cone.  You'd get old folks and young families...and, face it, toy trains are just fun!  This could be a great addition to downtown... and give families another reason to bring the kiddos downtown.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: DolfanBob on February 15, 2011, 05:40:03 PM
Uh oh Ponder. Dont let Blake read that. It will pop up as fast as the idea....lol
Great thought though. Id go there.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: dbacks fan on February 15, 2011, 08:11:52 PM
Quote from: PonderInc on February 15, 2011, 05:36:54 PM
Now, I've expanded that idea:  I think it would be cool to engage a bunch of local model train enthusists to combine a sort of model train museum with an ice cream parlor.  The train guys could build elaborate model train displays and change them with the seasons.  That would bring in families to see the different sets and enjoy ice cream at the same time.

It would also add a lot of interest and bring in folks to buy ice cream that would normally settle for a Braums cone.  You'd get old folks and young families...and, face it, toy trains are just fun!  This could be a great addition to downtown... and give families another reason to bring the kiddos downtown.

The next time any of you come to Phoenix, I can recommend the place to satisfy kids of all ages.

http://therailroadpark.com/index1.htm (http://therailroadpark.com/index1.htm)



Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: custosnox on February 15, 2011, 08:18:51 PM
Quote from: DolfanBob on February 15, 2011, 05:40:03 PM
Uh oh Ponder. Dont let Blake read that. It will pop up as fast as the idea....lol
Great thought though. Id go there.
I don't know, he's got quiet a bit on his plate already.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: dbacks fan on February 15, 2011, 08:48:32 PM
I have been to a few "ice cream parlors here in the Phoenix area, and the ones that suceed are always attached to a family restaraunt as well. The oldest is the "Sugar Bowl" in old town Scottsdale, and even in the middle of July and August the place is busy.

One of the newer ones is "Bad Donkey" in Cave Creek. Thier ice cream shop is called "Dinky Donkey". The names were created by the owners child who love's Donkey from Shrek.

I think that if I had the money to invest, and it has crossed my mind, I would like to open up a place similar to these, and Tulsa has come to mind, but I know how fickle people can be with restaraunts in Tulsa.

http://www.sugarbowlscottsdale.com/index.html (http://www.sugarbowlscottsdale.com/index.html)

http://www.thebaddonkey.com/ (http://www.thebaddonkey.com/)

Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: Conan71 on February 16, 2011, 11:34:54 AM
Quote from: PonderInc on February 15, 2011, 05:36:54 PM
Years ago, I spent a summer in Lexington, KY.  They still had an old-fashioned (original counter and fixtures) ice cream soda fountain in a historic downtown building.  I think it was originally a drug store.  You could plop down at the counter and order a shake, or a root beer float, or some magical thing that involved lime sherbet and 7-up...

I've always thought that this could work on Cherry Street or in downtown Tulsa.

Now, I've expanded that idea:  I think it would be cool to engage a bunch of local model train enthusists to combine a sort of model train museum with an ice cream parlor.  The train guys could build elaborate model train displays and change them with the seasons.  That would bring in families to see the different sets and enjoy ice cream at the same time.

It would also add a lot of interest and bring in folks to buy ice cream that would normally settle for a Braums cone.  You'd get old folks and young families...and, face it, toy trains are just fun!  This could be a great addition to downtown... and give families another reason to bring the kiddos downtown.

Not an ice cream place, but heavy on the RR theme

http://www.olliesstation.com/

Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: Townsend on February 16, 2011, 11:40:10 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on February 16, 2011, 11:34:54 AM
Not an ice cream place, but heavy on the RR theme

http://www.olliesstation.com/



Not a place I recommend for anyone with a discerning palate.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: Conan71 on February 16, 2011, 11:57:10 AM
Quote from: Townsend on February 16, 2011, 11:40:10 AM
Not a place I recommend for anyone with a discerning palate.

Definitely a trough.

When anyone starts talking about crime in Red Fork I retort: "The only crime in Red Fork is the buffet at Ollie's!"
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 16, 2011, 01:00:55 PM
Crime in Redfork?  I spent several years wandering that area as a kid, and worked over there a few years ago for a while.  Definitely not as imposing as some areas of town, but I always thought it was a nice little area of town.  Poor.  Kind of "comfy", small town.  People that I met were always nice.


Going to the train theme; there is a place called Crossroads Mall in southeast OKC.  It is in a crappy area of town (Valley Brook, OK) and is another "out of business" mall like Eastland.  (I always wondered if Simon Malls had taken over Crossroads, too, but I don't think they did.)

Anyway, there are a couple of model train clubs in the area that have worked out some kind of space rental deal with the mall (cheap) so that they have setups in a couple of the abandoned stores.  It was pretty cool last fall.  Since I get to "enjoy" some time in OKC, I try to go by there from time to time.  All they are missing is the soda fountain part of it. 

Would be a nice thing to have in Tulsa.  Are there any abandoned WalMart Stores around that could be picked up cheap??  (BA on 71st is kind of far out for this, I think.)





Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: DTowner on February 16, 2011, 02:30:01 PM
Ultimate Electronics space on 71st will soon be vacant.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: dbacks fan on February 16, 2011, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: DTowner on February 16, 2011, 02:30:01 PM
Ultimate Electronics space on 71st will soon be vacant.

As will Borders at 81st & Yale.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: DTowner on February 16, 2011, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: dbacks fan on February 16, 2011, 02:48:46 PM
As will Borders at 81st & Yale.

And 21st & BA - [sigh]
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: Conan71 on February 16, 2011, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: DTowner on February 16, 2011, 03:16:31 PM
And 21st & BA - [sigh]

Noooooooooooooo! Damn, I was hoping that one would be spared.  Wonder how Barnes & Noble is doing.  The one at 41st & Yale is my second pick for impulse book purchases.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: dbacks fan on February 16, 2011, 03:41:52 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on February 16, 2011, 03:18:09 PM
Noooooooooooooo! Damn, I was hoping that one would be spared.  Wonder how Barnes & Noble is doing.  The one at 41st & Yale is my second pick for impulse book purchases.

Apparently quite well. Do you think that B&N having the Nook helps them in thier suceeding? I know several people that switched to them just for that reason.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: swake on February 16, 2011, 03:46:19 PM
Quote from: DTowner on February 16, 2011, 03:16:31 PM
And 21st & BA - [sigh]

From what I read that store is staying open.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: nathanm on February 16, 2011, 03:55:18 PM
Quote from: DTowner on February 16, 2011, 03:16:31 PM
And 21st & BA - [sigh]
That one is not on the list I saw.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: DTowner on February 16, 2011, 04:37:54 PM
Quote from: nathanm on February 16, 2011, 03:55:18 PM
That one is not on the list I saw.

I saw that the 21st  St. store is spared - for now.  Of course, with Borders in the death spiral, it is probably only a matter of time.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 16, 2011, 11:16:56 PM
This is not good.  Books are critical to civilization and they are disappearing quickly.

Borders going away -  Aaaarrrgggghhhhh!!

Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: dbacks fan on February 17, 2011, 12:56:01 AM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on February 16, 2011, 11:16:56 PM
This is not good.  Books are critical to civilization and they are disappearing quickly.

Borders going away -  Aaaarrrgggghhhhh!!

This reminds me of a scene from the movie "Rollerball" (the original) where James Caan's character goes to Geneva looking for books on corporate wars and associated material, only to be told by the person he is speaking with, that all of those books "Have been scanned and summarized and are available in computer form."
Not Farenhiet 451, but the fact that what we read in a book now, could be scanned and summarized in the future. I'm not, one of those types, I still want a book, newspaper, magazine, that I can hold in my hands, and actually read it.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: DolfanBob on February 17, 2011, 12:56:38 PM
The book of Eli sure made me think about a future without books.
And look at the one they were all fighting to get their hands on.
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: Ed W on March 20, 2011, 06:03:26 PM
There's a new ice cream and coffee shop in Collinsville, but I haven't had a chance to try it yet.  It's on Eleventh and Main if I remember right.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/5544209239_dcf5e063a9.jpg)
Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: GG on March 20, 2011, 07:48:26 PM
Quote from: Ed W on March 20, 2011, 06:03:26 PM
There's a new ice cream and coffee shop in Collinsville, but I haven't had a chance to try it yet.  It's on Eleventh and Main if I remember right.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/5544209239_dcf5e063a9.jpg)

I know one of the principles behind this.  Judy Davis, I got to know her though the Owasso Chamber when she and I were Ambassador's.  Very nice lady, please support her new business if you can.

If you have never been to Collinsville, the downtown area is a throwback to the late 1940's early 1950's.  You should check it out. 

Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 20, 2011, 10:40:05 PM
Love the old bank building!!!  

Rollerball reference - Google is already scanning books.  (Regardless of copyright law).  I'm sure they will be able to let everyone know what is important in those books so one doesn't have to do all that tiresome reading.


Will try it next weekend.

Have tried three of the serve yourself frozen yogurt places this last week.  Interesting.  WAY TOO EASY to get way too much!




Title: Re: Old fashioned ice cream parlors
Post by: DolfanBob on March 21, 2011, 08:43:26 AM
Quote from: unreliablesource on March 20, 2011, 07:48:26 PM
I know one of the principles behind this.  Judy Davis, I got to know her though the Owasso Chamber when she and I were Ambassador's.  Very nice lady, please support her new business if you can.

If you have never been to Collinsville, the downtown area is a throwback to the late 1940's early 1950's.  You should check it out. 



I went to School with Judy. She is a wonderful person, I hope she does very well.