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Title: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: Hoss on October 25, 2010, 07:07:34 AM
...although they're not touting it.  Looks a lot better.

And they've rebranded the logo.  I'm mixed on it.  Appears they've gone to a 'less is more' approach.  Both Griffin stations have done this (KWTV OKC).

(http://www.tulsaoilerfans.com/images/newson6.jpg)
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: sgrizzle on October 25, 2010, 07:50:40 AM
Everyone wants a logo that can also be a mobile phone app icon (square with rounded corners)
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: Hoss on October 25, 2010, 08:25:51 AM
The more I looked at it this morning the less I was convinced they were in HD.  They might be broadcasting at 16:9 and upsampling, but it doesn't look as clear as the KJRH newscast does.
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: In_Tulsa on October 25, 2010, 08:33:50 AM
They are not in HD. They are now formatted in widescreen. I hear they won't have the electric power to do HD until they move to there new building if that ever happens. So basically they just streched there picture to fit your screen and it does look better then before.
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: Conan71 on October 25, 2010, 08:34:09 AM
They had a segment this morning with one of their engineers, there's a major technical overhaul going on at 6 including a lot of new hardware and on-screen graphics.

Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: tulsacyclist on October 25, 2010, 10:30:55 AM
I used to watch KOTV, but when KJRH got HD I went that route. Felt silly for switching based on HD/non-HD but I'm glad I did.
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: nathanm on October 25, 2010, 11:51:05 AM
Quote from: In_Tulsa on October 25, 2010, 08:33:50 AM
They are not in HD. They are now formatted in widescreen. I hear they won't have the electric power to do HD until they move to there new building if that ever happens. So basically they just streched there picture to fit your screen and it does look better then before.
I haven't seen the new newscast, but a lot of stations that broadcast their news in HD use soft focus tricks (or smear vaseline on the camera lenses) at the behest of the talent. They tend to not like all their skin imperfections showing.

That said, I'm glad to hear they flipped the 4:3/16:9 switch on their cameras to 16:9. Took 'em long enough.
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: Townsend on October 25, 2010, 11:52:18 AM
Their I-news update is not 100% yet.  Don't update it if you use it.
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: patric on October 25, 2010, 12:56:55 PM
Quote from: nathanm on October 25, 2010, 11:51:05 AM
I haven't seen the new newscast, but a lot of stations that broadcast their news in HD use soft focus tricks (or smear vaseline on the camera lenses) at the behest of the talent. They tend to not like all their skin imperfections showing.

They might shoot wider, but really, have you ever actually heard of an HD broadcaster smearing Vaseline on the cameras?
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: Hoss on October 25, 2010, 01:21:25 PM
Quote from: nathanm on October 25, 2010, 11:51:05 AM
I haven't seen the new newscast, but a lot of stations that broadcast their news in HD use soft focus tricks (or smear vaseline on the camera lenses) at the behest of the talent. They tend to not like all their skin imperfections showing.

That said, I'm glad to hear they flipped the 4:3/16:9 switch on their cameras to 16:9. Took 'em long enough.

Not in this case evidently.  Read KWTV's release on their website..especially the last line.

http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13379520

Quote"We also recognize people's appetite for the best viewing experience possible and have made the necessary technology investment to introduce high definition viewing in Oklahoma City, with plans to do the same in Tulsa," Griffin said.
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: Conan71 on October 25, 2010, 01:46:22 PM
I don't have a clue what 3/4 of the stuff is you guys are talking about, but I love eavesdropping on geekfests.
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: nathanm on October 25, 2010, 01:52:26 PM
Quote from: patric on October 25, 2010, 12:56:55 PM
They might shoot wider, but really, have you ever actually heard of an HD broadcaster smearing Vaseline on the cameras?
Yeah, I have. Although they actually put a UV filter on the lens and smear the Vaseline on that. ;)

I don't know if they still do it, but when the Today Show first went HD, they were doing that or something else with the same effect (there are substances one can use that actually dry onto the filter, thus being less messy). Supposedly Meredith Vieira didn't want to "look old."
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: Hoss on October 25, 2010, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: nathanm on October 25, 2010, 01:52:26 PM
Yeah, I have. Although they actually put a UV filter on the lens and smear the Vaseline on that. ;)

I don't know if they still do it, but when the Today Show first went HD, they were doing that or something else with the same effect (there are substances one can use that actually dry onto the filter, thus being less messy). Supposedly Meredith Vieira didn't want to "look old."

Don't think petroleum jelly on a camera lens will help that much....
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: sauerkraut on October 25, 2010, 02:48:49 PM
Don't matter to me~ I still watch on a annalog CRT set with a converter box. BTW my converter box also tells you the signal's power & the converter box also tells ya if it's on 720p or 1080i or 480i.. I found out that PBS channel 11.1 is the 1080i station & 11.2 is the 480i station all the time.
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: DTowner on October 25, 2010, 04:07:41 PM
Quote from: Hoss on October 25, 2010, 01:21:25 PM
Not in this case evidently.  Read KWTV's release on their website..especially the last line.

http://www.news9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13379520


What a surprise, Griffin is putting all its money into the OKC station and leaving Tulsa's Channel 6 investment for a later date.  I like the Channel 6 on-air folks the best, but the station's ownership is really cutting them short and diminishing the product.
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: Hoss on October 25, 2010, 04:28:11 PM
Quote from: sauerkraut on October 25, 2010, 02:48:49 PM
Don't matter to me~ I still watch on a annalog CRT set with a converter box. BTW my converter box also tells you the signal's power & the converter box also tells ya if it's on 720p or 1080i or 480i.. I found out that PBS channel 11.1 is the 1080i station & 11.2 is the 480i station all the time.

Most modern TVs do all of that as well...
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: patric on October 26, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
Im guessing KOTV will be the last station in this market to actually go HD, seeing as they are the mutant adopted child the Oklahoma City Griffin's keep in the basement...

Other than a few cosmetic changes, nothing substantial is likely to happen until they get into their new building.
...but I did notice that a lot of the image changes were "de-branding" Tulsa and going for more of a generic  Oklahoma identity.
Title: Re: KOTV newscasts appear to be broadcasting in high-def..
Post by: bluelake on October 26, 2010, 04:22:53 PM
A pretty large discussion going on the "switch" at the KOTV section of the topix forums...and it ain't pretty...

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/kotv/TRV0BDVK2A2GGEBRI