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Title: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Hoss on September 01, 2010, 02:48:25 PM
Yep, environmentalist who on his webpage calls humans 'filth' and calls on the Discovery Channel to "stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants"

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/01/police-reports-of-armed-man-at-discovery-channel-headquarters/?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Wasn't sure where else to put this, so I put it in Entertainment, since that's what the D-Channel is.
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: nathanm on September 01, 2010, 02:54:57 PM
I don't think "environmentalist" really captures this guy's point of view. His manifesto (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wRb2N5UYIwAJ:www.savetheplanetprotest.com/+http://savetheplanetprotest.com/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a) is pretty outlandish.
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Gaspar on September 01, 2010, 03:05:38 PM
Paul?  That you?
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Conan71 on September 01, 2010, 03:06:47 PM
"He demands that the Discovery Channel broadcast daily prime-time shows devoted to "solutions to save the planet," perhaps in a game-show format, insisting "Make it interesting so people watch and apply solutions!!!!"

Definitely a Tea bagger
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Gaspar on September 01, 2010, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2010, 03:06:47 PM
"He demands that the Discovery Channel broadcast daily prime-time shows devoted to "solutions to save the planet," perhaps in a game-show format, insisting "Make it interesting so people watch and apply solutions!!!!"

Definitely a Tea bagger

Was he riding a bike and dressed as Mary Poppins?
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Gaspar on September 01, 2010, 03:56:54 PM
Here's his little manifesto
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0901_demands.pdf
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Gaspar on September 01, 2010, 03:58:25 PM
I think perhaps if FOTD had not been banned he may not have ventured off the deep end.
This is our fault.
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Conan71 on September 01, 2010, 04:01:31 PM
He could have saved us all a lot of trouble and himself some effort by simply offing himself.

His little tirade on illegal immigrants and anchor babies will get him labeled a right wing nut job even though he's an off-the hinges greenie.
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Gaspar on September 01, 2010, 04:15:30 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2010, 04:01:31 PM
He could have saved us all a lot of trouble and himself some effort by simply offing himself.

His little tirade on illegal immigrants and anchor babies will get him labeled a right wing nut job even though he's an off-the hinges greenie.

He's confused, bitterly clinging to guns and trees.
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Conan71 on September 01, 2010, 04:21:40 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on September 01, 2010, 04:15:30 PM
He's confused, bitterly clinging to guns and trees.

Awesome! Good catch!
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Gaspar on September 01, 2010, 04:24:10 PM
Huge collective groan at MSNBC. . .

Lee said he experienced an ''awakening" when he watched former Vice President Al Gore's environmental documentary ''An Inconvenient Truth."
(http://olbroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/al-gore.jpg)
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Gaspar on September 01, 2010, 04:25:40 PM
That movie did the exact opposite to me.  I experienced a "sleeping" shortly after the scene with the arctic penguins.
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Hoss on September 01, 2010, 04:26:07 PM
Back on topic...


Suspect shot; three hostages rescued, suspect now in custody.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/01/maryland.discovery.channel/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Gaspar on September 01, 2010, 04:27:55 PM
Quote from: Hoss on September 01, 2010, 04:26:07 PM
Back on topic...


Suspect shot; three hostages rescued, suspect now in custody.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/01/maryland.discovery.channel/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

His environmental concerns are confirmed.  He has died from toxic lead exposure.
They should really ban those lead bullets.
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Gaspar on September 01, 2010, 04:31:43 PM
So we can watch MythBusters tonight instead of My Ishmael?


Ok, I'll stop.
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: nathanm on September 01, 2010, 04:59:20 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2010, 04:01:31 PM
His little tirade on illegal immigrants and anchor babies will get him labeled a right wing nut job even though he's an off-the hinges greenie.

Does being an "off-the hinges greenie" make him a left wing nut job? Or is he just a nut job with no particular political implications?
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: guido911 on September 01, 2010, 05:33:20 PM
Care to guess which one Lee is in this video?



My vote goes to the guy riding the bike.
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: custosnox on September 01, 2010, 05:59:28 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_discovery_channel_gunman

Guess that's one less parasitic human
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: guido911 on September 01, 2010, 07:35:05 PM
The left is spinning this as just an anti-immigration nut:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=cache:http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/09/01/discovery-gunman-immigration/
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: nathanm on September 01, 2010, 08:17:18 PM
Quote from: guido911 on September 01, 2010, 07:35:05 PM
The left is spinning this as just an anti-immigration nut:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=cache:http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/09/01/discovery-gunman-immigration/
Or one could say that the right is spinning this as just an enviro-nut:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/01/james-jay-lee/
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: guido911 on September 01, 2010, 08:55:59 PM
Quote from: nathanm on September 01, 2010, 08:17:18 PM
Or one could say that the right is spinning this as just an enviro-nut:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/01/james-jay-lee/

Yeah, Lee is a right winger nut job....
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: nathanm on September 01, 2010, 10:17:33 PM
Quote from: guido911 on September 01, 2010, 08:55:59 PM
Yeah, Lee is a right winger nut job....
Are you trying to be funny or do you really not understand that it's possible for him to be neither a left wing nor right wing nut job?
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: guido911 on September 02, 2010, 01:14:10 PM
Quote from: nathanm on September 01, 2010, 10:17:33 PM
Are you trying to be funny or do you really not understand that it's possible for him to be neither a left wing nor right wing nut job?

I'll remember you wrote this the next time someone that is right leaning does anything remotely like this in the future.
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: nathanm on September 02, 2010, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: guido911 on September 02, 2010, 01:14:10 PM
I'll remember you wrote this the next time someone that is right leaning does anything remotely like this in the future.
If you want to make the argument that this guy heard some left wing commentator and decided to act on that commentator's ridiculous notions, I'd be more than happy to listen.

That said, this guy's overall philosophy seems unrelated to either political party, or even their most radical cheerleaders. His apparent motivation had nothing to do with his anti-immigrant views or his more mainstream environmental views, but instead his completely nutjob idea that we should all just go die in a hole somewhere so we stop screwing up the Earth. That's not really something that falls within the political spectrum.
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Conan71 on September 02, 2010, 04:32:26 PM
Quote from: nathanm on September 02, 2010, 04:28:27 PM
If you want to make the argument that this guy heard some left wing commentator and decided to act on that commentator's ridiculous notions, I'd be more than happy to listen.

That said, this guy's overall philosophy seems unrelated to either political party, or even their most radical cheerleaders. His apparent motivation had nothing to do with his anti-immigrant views or his more mainstream environmental views, but instead his completely nutjob idea that we should all just go die in a hole somewhere so we stop screwing up the Earth. That's not really something that falls within the political spectrum.

Lighten up Francis. 

(http://perfunction.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341d896453ef0120a4cceaba970b-800wi)
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: dbacks fan on September 02, 2010, 04:55:21 PM
I get the protect the squirrels bit, they do a good job of protecting thier nuts, so he believed they would protect him.
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: guido911 on September 02, 2010, 05:16:01 PM
Quote from: nathanm on September 02, 2010, 04:28:27 PM
If you want to make the argument that this guy heard some left wing commentator and decided to act on that commentator's ridiculous notions, I'd be more than happy to listen.

That said, this guy's overall philosophy seems unrelated to either political party, or even their most radical cheerleaders. His apparent motivation had nothing to do with his anti-immigrant views or his more mainstream environmental views, but instead his completely nutjob idea that we should all just go die in a hole somewhere so we stop screwing up the Earth. That's not really something that falls within the political spectrum.

Where were you with this inspired position after Tiller was gunned down or the guard that was killed at the Holocaust museum? Remember all the right wing domestic terrorist howling after those events (and the deafening silence when left wing connected violence took place). How about the Oakland shooter that was allegedly inspired by Glenn Beck? Still more crickets. On the subject of inspiration, Lee was inspired by Al Gore:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1308138/Eco-terrorist-James-Jay-Lee-shot-dead-Discovery-Channel-HQ.html
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: Conan71 on September 02, 2010, 05:53:49 PM
Quote from: guido911 on September 02, 2010, 05:16:01 PM
Where were you with this inspired position after Tiller was gunned down or the guard that was killed at the Holocaust museum? Remember all the right wing domestic terrorist howling after those events (and the deafening silence when left wing connected violence took place). How about the Oakland shooter that was allegedly inspired by Glenn Beck? Still more crickets. On the subject of inspiration, Lee was inspired by Al Gore:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1308138/Eco-terrorist-James-Jay-Lee-shot-dead-Discovery-Channel-HQ.html

You are forgetting the knob who flew his Piper into the IRS building in Austin as well.  It was supposed he was another right winger anti-tax Tea Bagger at the time.  Turns out in his manifesto he raged against Pres. Bush and the GOP as well as most everything else.
Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: guido911 on September 02, 2010, 06:02:01 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 02, 2010, 05:53:49 PM
You are forgetting the knob who flew his Piper into the IRS building in Austin as well.  It was supposed he was another right winger anti-tax Tea Bagger at the time.  Turns out in his manifesto he raged against Pres. Bush and the GOP as well as most everything else.

Sh!t Conan, remember this thread?

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=13556.0

Title: Re: Nutjob holding hostages at Discovery Channel HQ in Maryland
Post by: nathanm on September 02, 2010, 06:08:34 PM
Quote from: guido911 on September 02, 2010, 05:16:01 PM
Where were you with this inspired position...
I was probably sitting in my chair, where I am now. If not, I was probably in Fayetteville. Where were you?