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Talk About Tulsa => Development & New Businesses => Topic started by: bokworker on August 12, 2010, 02:04:43 PM

Title: This is what will eventually stabalize the housing market..
Post by: bokworker on August 12, 2010, 02:04:43 PM
came across this article and wanted to share it. With market returns on fixed income investments so low a 10-15% return on rental properties looks pretty good. The repricing process is painful but eventually the money goes to where the value is...

http://realestate.yahoo.com/promo/vulture-investors-are-back-and-making-a-bundle
Title: Re: This is what will eventually stabalize the housing market..
Post by: nathanm on August 12, 2010, 07:12:32 PM
Quote from: bokworker on August 12, 2010, 02:04:43 PM
came across this article and wanted to share it. With market returns on fixed income investments so low a 10-15% return on rental properties looks pretty good. The repricing process is painful but eventually the money goes to where the value is...

http://realestate.yahoo.com/promo/vulture-investors-are-back-and-making-a-bundle
Wonderful, a new bubble.
Title: Re: This is what will eventually stabalize the housing market..
Post by: bokworker on August 13, 2010, 06:58:13 PM
Quote from: nathanm on August 12, 2010, 07:12:32 PM
Wonderful, a new bubble.

How do you figure that is a new bubble? Is investment in any asset a reflection of a bubble? The article pointed out that returns were based on cash flows of rents and assumed no price increase in the underlying asset. People have to live somewhere and frankly, this si the first time in a while that owning a house can be more financially prudent than renting... that's not a bubble.
Title: Re: This is what will eventually stabalize the housing market..
Post by: waterboy on August 13, 2010, 08:06:41 PM
I wish they hadn't used the perjorative "vulture". In fact they seem to be performing a necessary function.
Title: Re: This is what will eventually stabalize the housing market..
Post by: nathanm on August 14, 2010, 07:03:30 AM
Quote from: bokworker on August 13, 2010, 06:58:13 PM
How do you figure that is a new bubble? Is investment in any asset a reflection of a bubble? The article pointed out that returns were based on cash flows of rents and assumed no price increase in the underlying asset. People have to live somewhere and frankly, this si the first time in a while that owning a house can be more financially prudent than renting... that's not a bubble.

Everyone rushing headlong into one particular class of asset is a bubble. We've seen quite a lot of them in the last decade.
Title: Re: This is what will eventually stabalize the housing market..
Post by: Hawkins on August 17, 2010, 09:45:55 PM
The housing market...   :-\

I'm not an expert on economics, but something about this graph just doesn't look right:

http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/mortgage_rates/charts.asp (http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/mortgage_rates/charts.asp)

How much lower can rates go? I think we are heading for another huge economic downturn.

We were a growing economy driven by credit-cards and rising property values. Now that both are gone, I fear the worst is yet to come.