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Title: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: MidTownLifer on June 30, 2010, 12:27:07 AM
Anyone know what's going on at Camille's on Cherry Street? Two weeks ago I noticed a yellow ryder truck, around dusk I think, moving stuff OUT.

Now when I walk by it looks empty inside. What's happening there?
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: AngieB on June 30, 2010, 06:26:55 AM
Doesn't surprise me if they're gone.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: SXSW on June 30, 2010, 08:24:03 AM
Quote from: AngieBrumley on June 30, 2010, 06:26:55 AM
Doesn't surprise me if they're gone.

Wasn't this their flagship store?  It was the biggest and nicest Camille's, IMO.  The service wasn't very good though.  I'm hoping Cosi moves in!
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: Ibanez on June 30, 2010, 08:42:42 AM
Service was always on the poor to horrible side there. Food was decent enough, but if the service at a place is poor I will give them 2 or 3 chances to correct it and if they don't I will never go back. Maybe other people had the same experience and felt the way I do.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on June 30, 2010, 09:24:11 AM
I went to the one on Riverside PKY once a week for a long time.  Then they raised their prices and made their sandwiches cheaper.  Now I go about once every 6 months.  I have even had gift cards the whole time so it would be "free" to eat.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: Townsend on June 30, 2010, 09:26:36 AM
I went to this location once and was surprised at the blandness and poor quality for the money.

I moved on.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: kylieosu on June 30, 2010, 09:36:29 AM
Quote from: SXSW on June 30, 2010, 08:24:03 AM
Wasn't this their flagship store?  It was the biggest and nicest Camille's, IMO.  The service wasn't very good though.  I'm hoping Cosi moves in!

AGREED. Cosi is great.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: SXSW on June 30, 2010, 09:48:05 AM
Quote from: kylieosu on June 30, 2010, 09:36:29 AM
AGREED. Cosi is great.

And this location is close to the same size as the one at 71st & Yale.  I sent them an email saying this would be a great location.  

http://www.getcosi.com/ (http://www.getcosi.com/)
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: DolfanBob on June 30, 2010, 11:05:36 AM
The owner IMO is spreading himself thin. His new Southern California gourmet hot dog biz. Coney Beach has alredy tanked in Bixby and I thought he had signed a deal with Wal Mart to put Camille's cafe's inside new Super stores. Havent heard if that actually happened.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: Red Arrow on June 30, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
Quote from: DolfanBob on June 30, 2010, 11:05:36 AM
Southern California gourmet hot dog biz. Coney Beach has alredy tanked in Bixby

I always kind of questioned the concept of a "gourmet" hot dog.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: Townsend on June 30, 2010, 01:13:40 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on June 30, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
I always kind of questioned the concept of a "gourmet" hot dog.

The innards were washed in sparkling water.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: Conan71 on June 30, 2010, 01:24:54 PM
Quote from: DolfanBob on June 30, 2010, 11:05:36 AM
The owner IMO is spreading himself thin. His new Southern California gourmet hot dog biz. Coney Beach has alredy tanked in Bixby and I thought he had signed a deal with Wal Mart to put Camille's cafe's inside new Super stores. Havent heard if that actually happened.

How long ago did that tank?
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: dbacks fan on June 30, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
I Googled Coney Beach Bixby, OK and the website is Rex's Chicken. From some of the reviews I read from Urban Tulsa and Urban Spoon were mixed at best. It sounds as though they tried to combine parts of Pennington's with gourmet hot dogs and burgers, and add Rex's as well.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: DolfanBob on June 30, 2010, 01:46:12 PM
My company installed the Satellite TV service there. I thought that they were way over priced for what you were getting.
He claimed that the concept came from SoCal beach Hot Dog restaurants he had visited there. Just didnt catch on here.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: dbacks fan on June 30, 2010, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: DolfanBob on June 30, 2010, 01:46:12 PM
My company installed the Satellite TV service there. I thought that they were way over priced for what you were getting.
He claimed that the concept came from SoCal beach Hot Dog restaurants he had visited there. Just didnt catch on here.

Here is one from Diners, Drive Ins and Dives that I hope to check out sometime soon.

http://www.fabhotdogs.com/ (http://www.fabhotdogs.com/) You will need to allow pop ups from this site, it's safe to see the menu. The prices seem lower here than what Urban Tulsa had for Coney Beach.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: Conan71 on June 30, 2010, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: dbacks fan on June 30, 2010, 01:56:40 PM
Here is one from Diners, Drive Ins and Dives that I hope to check out sometime soon.

http://www.fabhotdogs.com/ (http://www.fabhotdogs.com/) You will need to allow pop ups from this site, it's safe to see the menu. The prices seem lower here than what Urban Tulsa had for Coney Beach.

Food critic or pro wrestler wanna be?  You can't help but like Guy.  I'd love to have a Marshalls or ten with him and Anthony Bourdain.

(http://www.thesunblog.com/gourmetgal/chef%20guy%20fieri.jpg)
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: DTowner on June 30, 2010, 02:56:45 PM
In the past year or so, I recall reading of agreements by the owners (Beautiful Brands) with In the Raw, Caz' Chowhouse, Cafe Ole, among others to franchise those concepts.  With those deals, the hot dog place (and Rex's), the ice cream joint, taking Camille's international, and into Wal-Mart they have a lot of irons in the fire.  However, it never seems like a good idea to let your flagship concept slip as you focus on other things.

I probably ate that this Camille's once every couple of months - usually on the weekend.  The food was generally good, but a little pricey.  It was never particularly busy, which seemed a problem given the size of the space.

This is an excellent location, especially with the patio that can be closed off when it gets really hot or cold.  I hope something goes in that has a stronger night time presence.  Along with the former Bourbon St., Cherry St. now has two good restaurant spaces available.

Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: we vs us on June 30, 2010, 03:52:08 PM
Hot Doug's (http://www.hotdougs.com/) in Chicago is a national treasure.  Duck fat fries FTW!  Also The Game of the Week kick's regular donkey (I've seen Elk sausage, Alligator, venison, and pheasant).

QuoteWhat can I eat at Hot Doug's, you ask?

The Dog
Chicago-Style Hot Dog with all the trimmings: 'nuff said.
$1.75

The Elvis
Polish Sausage: Smoked and savory - just like the King.
$2.50

The Paul Kelly
Bratwurst: Soaked in Beer – sort of like Paul.
$3.50

The Frankie "Five Angels" Pentangeli
(formerly The Virgil "the Turk" Sollozzo and the Luca Brasi)
Italian Sausage: Keep your friends close, your sausage closer.
$3.00

The Keira Knightley
(formerly the Jennifer Garner and the Britney Spears)
Fire Dog: Mighty hot!
$2.50

The Salma Hayek
(formerly the Madonna, the Raquel Welch and the Ann-Margret)
Andouille Sausage: Mighty, mighty, mighty hot!
$4.00

The Game of the Week
See the special's page for this week's game sausage.

The Marty Allen
(formerly the Don Rickles)
Thuringer: Hello der beef, pork and garlic.
$3.25

The Pete Shelley
(formerly the Steve Diggle and the Howard Devoto)
Vegetarian Dog: Meatless . . . and delicious!
$2.75

The Dave Kingman
(formerly the Shawon Dunston and the Rick Reuschel)
Chicken Sausage: Classic Italian-style or zesty Sante Fe-style
$3.50

The Sally Vega
(formerly the Ace Patrick and the "Psycho" Ronnie Raines)
Corn Dog: Deep fried to a golden splendor – it's corntacular!
$1.50

(So far still Just) The Charlie and James Sohn
Mini bagel dogs and tater tots – the kids love'em.
$2.50

The (Your Name Here)
Today's celebrity sausage: See the special's page.

Add Chili to any sausage: 50¢
Add Cheese to any sausage: 25¢

FRESH-CUT FRENCH FRIES
small ............... $1.25 large ............... $2

DUCK FAT FRIES ..... $3.50
(Friday & Saturday only)

CHEESE FRIES
small ............... $2 large ............... $2.75

SODA
small ............... $1 large ............... $1.75
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: dbacks fan on June 30, 2010, 03:58:45 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on June 30, 2010, 02:10:40 PM
Food critic or pro wrestler wanna be?  You can't help but like Guy.  I'd love to have a Marshalls or ten with him and Anthony Bourdain.

(http://www.thesunblog.com/gourmetgal/chef%20guy%20fieri.jpg)

If I win a big enough Powerball or Megamillions here are the two chefs I want in my resturaunt:

Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: dbacks fan on June 30, 2010, 04:03:02 PM
Quote from: we vs us on June 30, 2010, 03:52:08 PM
Hot Doug's (http://www.hotdougs.com/) in Chicago is a national treasure.  Duck fat fries FTW!  Also The Game of the Week kick's regular donkey (I've seen Elk sausage, Alligator, venison, and pheasant).


I remember seeing this place on "Hot Dog Paradise" on the Travel Channel. Talk about reasonable prices.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: Conan71 on June 30, 2010, 04:08:34 PM
Quote from: dbacks fan on June 30, 2010, 03:58:45 PM
If I win a big enough Powerball or Megamillions here are the two chefs I want in my resturaunt:



Yeah, but you sure wouldn't want to have to buy hair gel for either one.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: dbacks fan on June 30, 2010, 04:10:54 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on June 30, 2010, 04:08:34 PM
Yeah, but you sure wouldn't want to have to buy hair gel for either one.

That would be in their contract that they have to supply their own hair products.  ;D
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: Townsend on June 30, 2010, 04:12:29 PM
Quote from: dbacks fan on June 30, 2010, 03:58:45 PM
If I win a big enough Powerball or Megamillions here are the two chefs I want in my resturaunt:



Paint 'em blue and put some antennae on their heads and it's a party.

(http://www.firsttvdrama.com/enterprise/images/andorian.jpg)
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: SXSW on June 30, 2010, 04:14:18 PM
Quote from: DTowner on June 30, 2010, 02:56:45 PM
This is an excellent location, especially with the patio that can be closed off when it gets really hot or cold.  I hope something goes in that has a stronger night time presence.  Along with the former Bourbon St., Cherry St. now has two good restaurant spaces available.

Very true.  Both are good locations.  An outdoor seating area to the side of Bourbon Street would be a nice addition for any future restaurant there.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: SXSW on July 06, 2010, 01:25:13 PM
If this is going to be another Beautiful Brands franchise, I hope it's the first Tulsa location of Greenz.  Salads, sandwiches, smoothies would work well with FreshBerry in Cherry Street.  Their only other locations are in Dallas.

http://www.greenzsalads.com/index.htm (http://www.greenzsalads.com/index.htm)

The space at 1342 E. 15th St. that recently housed a Camille's Sidewalk Cafe now sits vacant — but not for long.
David Rutkauskas, founder of Camille's and Beautiful Brands International, which owns the franchise, said the franchise location on Cherry Street closed when BBI terminated its agreement with the franchisee last month.

"It wasn't the right situation for Camille's," he said.

BBI still has the lease on the space and plans to move in another brand in the next 90 to 120 days. Though Rutkauskas wouldn't specify which brand would be occupying the space, he did say it would be co-branded with a self-serve FreshBerry Frozen Yogurt Cafe. The mystery brand will be owned by a franchisee, while FreshBerry will be corporate-owned.


http://www.tulsabusiness.com/article.asp?aID=51317 (http://www.tulsabusiness.com/article.asp?aID=51317)
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: Townsend on January 14, 2011, 02:39:49 PM
Drove by and something was happening in there.

Anyone know?
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: SXSW on January 14, 2011, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: Townsend on January 14, 2011, 02:39:49 PM
Drove by and something was happening in there.

Anyone know?

The rumor is Mi Cocina, the Dallas upscale Mexican restaurant chain.  That would be great if it's true.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: kylieosu on January 14, 2011, 03:47:44 PM
Quote from: SXSW on January 14, 2011, 02:58:59 PM
The rumor is Mi Cocina, the Dallas upscale Mexican restaurant chain.  That would be great if it's true.

Looks like it's true. :) "New Locations" at the top left corner. http://www.mcrowd.com/micocina.html
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: Townsend on January 14, 2011, 03:50:37 PM
Quote from: kylieosu on January 14, 2011, 03:47:44 PM
Looks like it's true. :) "New Locations" at the top left corner. http://www.mcrowd.com/micocina.html

Huzzah
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: SXSW on January 14, 2011, 03:59:19 PM
Sweet, I love Mi Cocina.  And I can walk there from my house!

I'm hoping they expand the outdoor seating.  There is no need for the curb cut on 15th with parallel parking already available in the outside lane.  They could double their outdoor seating (and make it easier for people walking down the sidewalk) by filling that in.  
(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs523.snc3/29764_1506770714102_1379330057_1368413_7474771_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: Townsend on January 14, 2011, 04:05:59 PM
Quote from: SXSW on January 14, 2011, 03:59:19 PM
Sweet, I love Mi Cocina.  And I can walk there from my house!

I'm hoping they expand the outdoor seating.  There is no need for the curb cut on 15th with parallel parking already available in the outside lane.  They could double their outdoor seating (and make it easier for people walking down the sidewalk) by filling that in.  

There are rules about sidewalk seating and alcohol service in Oklahoma...wah wah waaaaaaaaah(http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/files/original/Debbie%20Downer,%20NYT-thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: DowntownDan on January 14, 2011, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: kylieosu on January 14, 2011, 03:47:44 PM
Looks like it's true. :) "New Locations" at the top left corner. http://www.mcrowd.com/micocina.html

Not sure anyone knows how excited my wife and I are for this!  Another peice of Dallas coming to our neighborhood.  We lived in Dallas for three years.  Two of our favorite places were Genghis Grill and Mi Cocina.  Since we moved to Cherry Street, Genghis has opened up and now Mi Cocina.  Very excited.

By the way, Mi Cocinas in Dallas were always quite large and very fancy.  They had a smaller chain called "Taco Diner" that would seem to be what they would use in a smaller space like the Camille's spot.  Wonder if it will be a full Mi Cocina or a smaller Taco Diner.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: Townsend on January 14, 2011, 04:49:17 PM
Quote from: DowntownDan on January 14, 2011, 04:41:53 PM
Not sure anyone knows how excited my wife and I are for this!  Another peice of Dallas coming to our neighborhood.  We lived in Dallas for three years.  Two of our favorite places were Genghis Grill and Mi Cocina.  Since we moved to Cherry Street, Genghis has opened up and now Mi Cocina.  Very excited.

By the way, Mi Cocinas in Dallas were always quite large and very fancy.  They had a smaller chain called "Taco Diner" that would seem to be what they would use in a smaller space like the Camille's spot.  Wonder if it will be a full Mi Cocina or a smaller Taco Diner.

The shop next door is also closed.  Maybe they'll expand?
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: DowntownDan on January 27, 2011, 03:12:53 PM
It's officially a Mi Cocina!  I'm excited.  Might rename the thread or start a new one.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=46&articleid=20110127_53_E1_CUTLIN475645 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=46&articleid=20110127_53_E1_CUTLIN475645)
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: bigdtottown on January 27, 2011, 11:46:20 PM
Good news for T Town.  Way too many lame Tex Mex places here in Dallas and Tulsa.  Mi Cocinas is a cut above the rest.  Wife and I make it into their Highland Park Village about once a week and really like it.  Give it a shot, you won't be disappointed, although it is a bit pricier than say, a Chilis, you'll see some really interesting things on the menu.  Each store has it's own atmosphere so I'll be interested to see what the Tulsa location ends up looking like.
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: SXSW on January 28, 2011, 09:10:57 AM
Quote from: bigdtottown on January 27, 2011, 11:46:20 PM
Good news for T Town.  Way too many lame Tex Mex places here in Dallas and Tulsa.  Mi Cocinas is a cut above the rest.  Wife and I make it into their Highland Park Village about once a week and really like it.  Give it a shot, you won't be disappointed, although it is a bit pricier than say, a Chilis, you'll see some really interesting things on the menu.  Each store has it's own atmosphere so I'll be interested to see what the Tulsa location ends up looking like.

I've been the ones in Uptown Dallas and downtown Fort Worth.  Both have great outdoor patios.  I'm hoping the one on Cherry Street does too. 
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: SXSW on January 29, 2011, 02:05:25 PM
I wonder if Beautiful Brands has any part in this?  They originally said they wanted another BB franchise at this location after Camille's closed.  I still would like to see a Greenz (a BB franchise) somewhere in Tulsa.  I went to one in Dallas and it was great.

I did see where a similar OKC-based company has Tulsa listed as one of their "additional locations under development"..

http://mycoolgreens.com/about/locations/ (http://mycoolgreens.com/about/locations/)
Title: Re: Camille's on Cherry Street
Post by: dioscorides on February 28, 2011, 05:33:05 PM
my wife and i stayed in frisco, tx this weekend and tried to go to the mi cocina on legacy in plano.  it was about 8:30p, so we didn't think it would be too long of a wait, even though it was a saturday night.  we were definitely wrong about that.  it was still an hour wait.  we thought about waiting, but we were too hungry by that point.  we ended up going across the street to a seafood restaurant that had no wait (which was pretty good).  i am more intrigued about mi cocina now.  i wish we could have tried it.  we will prepare better next time.