Didnt see this posted anywhere...but Sams club will be moving into Tulsa Hills. Will be on the east side next to Target and Ulta. Work should begin soon.
I am actually excited about this....the other 2 locations are not anywhere near where we live. Good to see them coming to Southwest Tulsa!!
I still don't understand why a SUPER Target wasn't built at Tulsa Hills. That area needs a grocery store, and no Sam's Club doesn't count. ;)
Those fields on either side of 71st between Tulsa Hills and Elwood will be filled with new homes in the next 5-10 years, and they will all have a Tulsa address.
Quote from: SXSW on June 21, 2010, 05:15:48 PM
I still don't understand why a SUPER Target wasn't built at Tulsa Hills. That area needs a grocery store, and no Sam's Club doesn't count. ;)
To be fair, the grocery area in Target is actually decent. Sure, it's not Reasor's. But It's not like it's totally bereft of a lot of different foodstuffs -- pretty good foodstuffs, I might add.
Quote from: SXSW on June 21, 2010, 05:15:48 PM
I still don't understand why a SUPER Target wasn't built at Tulsa Hills. That area needs a grocery store, and no Sam's Club doesn't count. ;)
Those fields on either side of 71st between Tulsa Hills and Elwood will be filled with new homes in the next 5-10 years, and they will all have a Tulsa address.
From what I heard, Target wanted the store to be a SuperTarget, but the developer had visions of Whole Foods and a bunch of other stores coming in and wouldn't give enough room to Target for a full superstore. Then the economy collapsed and now there's plenty of room, but the Target is built
Oh well.
I'm starting to think that developers actually don't like putting their stores in any area where folks aren't literally STUCK in traffic. Seems a prerequisite for actually getting a "convenient" store (grocery, gasoline, pharmacy, etc.) is that you live in an area that is not only over-run with other residents, but overrun with cars and gridlock.
Are retailers afraid that people will just blow right by a development like Tulsa Hills? So sick of the "everything BUT a grocery store" developments we're getting over here. By the time we fill Tulsa Hills up with places like Target and Sam's Club, why would a full-time grocer even want to locate there now? To me, this is the nail in the coffin for any future chance at one. Too much perceived competition in an area that's not "congested" enough. Ugh...someone please help me understand this.
Yes, Tulsa Hills was supposed to have a separate grocery store so they only allowed a regular target. There was also supposed to be a JC Penney where Sam's is going as well.
If this is true (which it sounds like it is), then the developers not only messed up, they got greedy. I had always assumed that Target made that decision, but to think we actually turned THEM down. Ouch, how does that feel now?
They weren't the only ones. The world looked a LOT different five years ago.
There was (is?) a development going in on the SW corner of 81st and US75 that included a Wal-Mart neighborhood market. I personally don't consider that a decent grocery store, but it is a store. I have no idea if this development is still happening or not. There's certainly no work going on.
The new Reasor's at 101st and Elm(Peoria) in Jenks is only a few miles away and is a great store.
Quote from: swake on June 22, 2010, 08:53:50 AM
There was (is?) a development going in on the SW corner of 81st and US75 that included a Wal-Mart neighborhood market. I personally don't consider that a decent grocery store, but it is a store. I have no idea if this development is still happening or not. There's certainly no work going on.
The new Reasor's at 101st and Elm(Peoria) in Jenks is only a few miles away and is a great store.
I'd be curious to know why you don't think the neighborhood markets are decent. My favorite one is the one at 21st and Yale and I love that store. It's clean and laid out where thought actually appears to have factored in.
Reasors, while I do like their meat section, is WAY too expensive, comparatively speaking. Although if other places don't have a specialty item, odds are that Reasor's does. Their pricing just reminds me too much of Albertson's when they were here. I'd rather go to Warehouse Market when I'm doing 'small shopping'. I usually go to WMNM when I'm doing my semi-monthly shopping.
If I remember right didn't the plans call for a movie theater there to? Also read not to long ago that a Whataburger and a Cracker Barrel were going in also.
Quote from: bmuscotty on June 22, 2010, 09:37:48 AM
If I remember right didn't the plans call for a movie theater there to? Also read not to long ago that a Whataburger and a Cracker Barrel were going in also.
That was likely before the 'downturn'...
Quote from: Hoss on June 22, 2010, 09:24:31 AM
I'd be curious to know why you don't think the neighborhood markets are decent. My favorite one is the one at 21st and Yale and I love that store. It's clean and laid out where thought actually appears to have factored in.
Reasors, while I do like their meat section, is WAY too expensive, comparatively speaking. Although if other places don't have a specialty item, odds are that Reasor's does. Their pricing just reminds me too much of Albertson's when they were here. I'd rather go to Warehouse Market when I'm doing 'small shopping'. I usually go to WMNM when I'm doing my semi-monthly shopping.
Now, I think I have only ever been in the Neighborhood Markets on Brookside and at 96th and Delaware maybe other stores are better, but I doubt it. I will say the employees in Neighborhood Markets are much better than the ones in Supercenters. I always seem to end up angry in a Supercenter at the wait times and the general filth of the stores and the distain the employees seem to have for customers. The Markets are better at taking care of customers and the stores than the Supercenters.
My problems really start with the selection of items in general at Neighborhood Markets. They have a very limited selection; they don't stock many of the items we buy at all. Neighborhood Markets don't stock any good cheeses at all and everything from the deli counter is completely void of flavor. Wal-Mart pumps so much water into their meats that when you cook burger for instance you are boiling the meat because so much water is flowing out of it. I guess the chicken is fine, it's just Tyson chicken I believe, but the steaks and other meats are just plain bad. I have seen fruits and vegetables on multiple occasions that are literally rotting on in the bins with little gnats flying all around them. That's beyond the sour grapes that go bad in one day and the flavorless tomatoes. Add to that again a very limited selection of produce and meats.
Decent service in a kinda of clean store with poor selection, bad meats and produce don't make up for kinda cheep prices. It's not a good store, it's better than the Supercenters, but then they are just plain awful in every way possible.
I don't have an issue with Reasor's prices; they are a little higher, but not bad. I think Food Pyramid is high for what you get and Whole Foods certainly has high prices. I don't ever for to Warehouse Market, so I don't know what they have. We go to Reasor's and Target and then Whole Foods for items you can't get at Reasor's, which with the new store in Jenks is not much anymore.
Quote from: swake on June 22, 2010, 09:55:54 AM
My problems really start with the selection of items in general at Neighborhood Markets. They have a very limited selection; they don't stock many of the items we buy at all. Neighborhood Markets don't stock any good cheeses at all and everything from the deli counter is completely void of flavor. Wal-Mart pumps so much water into their meats that when you cook burger for instance you are boiling the meat because so much water is flowing out of it. I guess the chicken is fine, it's just Tyson chicken I believe, but the steaks and other meats are just plain bad. I have seen fruits and vegetables on multiple occasions that are literally rotting on in the bins with little gnats flying all around them. That's beyond the sour grapes that go bad in one day and the flavorless tomatoes. Add to that again a very limited selection of produce and meats.
That's essentially what I was going to write. Also, after the time I went into the store at 81st and Sheridan some years back looking for plantains (Albertson's was out) not only did they not have any, but the produce area smelled of urine.
That and I'm not going to spend any money at Wal-Mart (at least when I have a choice) until they start paying their employees enough that they don't have to be on welfare. All you're doing when you shop there is exchanging money paid for product for money paid in taxes.
Quote from: swake on June 22, 2010, 09:55:54 AM
Now, I think I have only ever been in the Neighborhood Markets on Brookside and at 96th and Delaware maybe other stores are better, but I doubt it. I will say the employees in Neighborhood Markets are much better than the ones in Supercenters. I always seem to end up angry in a Supercenter at the wait times and the general filth of the stores and the distain the employees seem to have for customers. The Markets are better at taking care of customers and the stores than the Supercenters.
My problems really start with the selection of items in general at Neighborhood Markets. They have a very limited selection; they don't stock many of the items we buy at all. Neighborhood Markets don't stock any good cheeses at all and everything from the deli counter is completely void of flavor. Wal-Mart pumps so much water into their meats that when you cook burger for instance you are boiling the meat because so much water is flowing out of it. I guess the chicken is fine, it's just Tyson chicken I believe, but the steaks and other meats are just plain bad. I have seen fruits and vegetables on multiple occasions that are literally rotting on in the bins with little gnats flying all around them. That's beyond the sour grapes that go bad in one day and the flavorless tomatoes. Add to that again a very limited selection of produce and meats.
Decent service in a kinda of clean store with poor selection, bad meats and produce don't make up for kinda cheep prices. It's not a good store, it's better than the Supercenters, but then they are just plain awful in every way possible.
I don't have an issue with Reasor's prices; they are a little higher, but not bad. I think Food Pyramid is high for what you get and Whole Foods certainly has high prices. I don't ever for to Warehouse Market, so I don't know what they have. We go to Reasor's and Target and then Whole Foods for items you can't get at Reasor's, which with the new store in Jenks is not much anymore.
Most processed chicken products seem to have between 5 and 15% of "added solution" when I read the labels in the store. It's a dead ringer on any frozen products. It seems to vary from chicken broth to a simple brine solution, to having phosphate or maltodextrose (or dextrin...whatever). Your safest bet, if you can stand the idea of cutting up chicken in your own kitchen is to buy whole birds and trim them out yourself. I've never thought to see how much some place like Harvard Meats would charge to do that.
I've become a serious food additive phobe, and it seems to be paying dividends. Since I've gotten more disciplined about avoiding highly processed foods, my allergies are much improved (I've had a great allergy year while others around me have suffered), I no longer take a sleep medication, I've got pretty stable energy levels throughout the day, and I've dropped about 15 pounds. I've not seriously altered my exercize habits nor intake, I simply eat more whole foods prepared at home and eat out less. It's amazing how much the additional additives in food can affect the human body. The hardest part is making time to eat right.
Quote from: nathanm on June 22, 2010, 10:13:38 AM
That and I'm not going to spend any money at Wal-Mart (at least when I have a choice) until they start paying their employees enough that they don't have to be on welfare. All you're doing when you shop there is exchanging money paid for product for money paid in taxes.
Aside from your well-reasoned boycott, they will survive without you. Wal-Mart apparently serves a purpose in the job market or people would not work for the wages they pay. That's the nature with any grocery store and most big box retailers as well though. I'm not aware of Target, Best Buy, Big Lots, Kmart, Borders, etc. paying any better wages. Wal-Mart is an easy target because they are the largest.
I don't have so much an issue shopping at Wal-Mart Market since most goods there are necessarily produced in the states with the exception of some of the fish and produce products, but again you will find that at most every grocer. I generally avoid Super Wal-Marts due to having to park so freaking far away, the relative filth, and not being able to find what I want and get on my way quick enough to suit me.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 22, 2010, 11:42:36 AM
Aside from your well-reasoned boycott, they will survive without you. Wal-Mart apparently serves a purpose in the job market or people would not work for the wages they pay. That's the nature with any grocery store and most big box retailers as well though. I'm not aware of Target, Best Buy, Big Lots, Kmart, Borders, etc. paying any better wages. Wal-Mart is an easy target because they are the largest.
I can't say about the others, but having known people who have worked at Wal-Mart, Target, and Best Buy, I can say with certainty that Wal-Mart pays less than the other two. They also refuse to let most of their employees work enough hours to qualify for health insurance, and they have a history of forcing employees to work off the clock.
As far as serving a purpose in the job market? It's called desperation. When there isn't another job, whether due to the bad economy or because they drove most of the other businesses in town out of business, you gotta take what you can get.
In any event, I don't really care if other people shop at Wal-Mart or not, but it's still not something I'm interested in doing.
The retail business model seldom uses full time employees other than management. They are generally considered entry level jobs or fill in as second jobs. Same as fast food. People know what the pay is when they hire on, and so long as the consumer side of people demands low prices, it keeps the wages depressed of those who provide the labor in the stores and restaurants.
I agree that shopping there simply encourages the demand for low end labor both on the manufacturing and retail level, but how do you suddenly modify consumer habits and tell all consumers they need to pay 1/3 more for everything they purchase just so everyone in big box retail or fast food can have a pay raise which puts them into the middle class?
Quote from: Conan71 on June 22, 2010, 11:59:02 AM
The retail business model seldom uses full time employees other than management. They are generally considered entry level jobs or fill in as second jobs. Same as fast food. People know what the pay is when they hire on, and so long as the consumer side of people demands low prices, it keeps the wages depressed of those who provide the labor in the stores and restaurants.
I agree that shopping there simply encourages the demand for low end labor both on the manufacturing and retail level, but how do you suddenly modify consumer habits and tell all consumers they need to pay 1/3 more for everything they purchase just so everyone in big box retail or fast food can have a pay raise which puts them into the middle class?
Alls I know is that Albertson's paid their employees reasonably well and prices weren't nearly as much higher as you claim.
Also, other companies use a lot of part time labor because that's what the employees are looking for. (aside from their seasonal hiring, of course, which is all part time) A friend of mine manages a fast food restaurant. Almost everybody who wants full time gets it, so long as there are enough hours to go around. He's also got plenty of part timers, but the almost all want it that way. Works out well for him since he needs some part timers for Friday and Saturday rush and to fill in on occasion if someone calls in sick. And his company has a lower threshold to qualify for benefits than WMT does. Unless it's changed recently, WMT offers benefits if you work 40 hours a week. (for the purposes of marketing, they call 37 hour a week employees 'full time'). This particular restaurant chain offers benefits, including the accrual of paid vacation, if you work 25 hours a week or more.
It would be wonderful if you could raise a small flock of chickens in your backyard. I want one very much. Now if Tulsa, Broken Arrow and surroundings would just develop a little sanity about what pets one can have....
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 22, 2010, 12:46:46 PM
It would be wonderful if you could raise a small flock of chickens in your backyard. I want one very much. Now if Tulsa, Broken Arrow and surroundings would just develop a little sanity about what pets one can have....
You can in El Salvador.
I love Wal-Mart. They used to be an account of mine. Every buyer, every national, regional, and local manager was once a store employee. You start low in the organization, but if you have good work ethic and drive, they will pay for education and promote you through the system.
I watched people start watering plants in the garden center and end up L&G managers, and ultimately buyers (I sold live goods, plants). Once you worked your way up in the organization, you were set for life with incredible benefits and retirement.
I also sold to Depot, and that is another top notch, promote from within org. I have a good friend that I used to run track with in HS. He went to work for Depot when I went to college. He's been a regional buyer for years now.
We live in a time of immediate gratification. It is unfortunate. People demand higher wages, and extensive benefits at entry level. They have no intension of building a career and working for such things. They think they are entitled, just because they show up.
LOL! I sound like my father.
Thanks Dad!
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 22, 2010, 12:46:46 PM
It would be wonderful if you could raise a small flock of chickens in your backyard.
You can have hens in Tulsa
Quote from: Gaspar on June 22, 2010, 01:22:00 PM
I love Wal-Mart. They used to be an account of mine. Every buyer, every national, regional, and local manager was once a store employee. You start low in the organization, but if you have good work ethic and drive, they will pay for education and promote you through the system.
I watched people start watering plants in the garden center and end up L&G managers, and ultimately buyers (I sold live goods, plants). Once you worked your way up in the organization, you were set for life with incredible benefits and retirement.
You're seeing what you want to see. It contradicts both the written evidence and the experience of most WMT employees I've known. (which is quite a few, having lived many years just down the road from their home office, as they call it) There's very little opportunity for advancement, simply because they have so many hourly associates and so few management positions. That's not to say that promotion from within doesn't happen. And not every buyer, national, regional, or local manager once worked in the store at an entry level job. I know at least three people I can think of off the top of my head that were hired into management from other places. One as an assistant manager at a supercenter in Arkansas and two who worked for the home office. One was even a buyer.
That was back before I realized quite how bad WMT is. In any event, it was different back before Sam died.
Wal Mart is a lot like Microsoft. Started small, grew over time due to herculean efforts of the people working there. Both have mediocre products at somewhat reasonable prices. Both make a ton of money. (Sadly, only one rewards the efforts of its people in reasonable fashion.) Both have grown way beyond the point of mere capitalistic monopolism and have the court events to prove it.
Both wonderful examples of the American work ethic. And how it can be warped and twisted as they grow to a certain point.
Question is, where is that point? And how does one prevent that from happening? Warren Buffet seems to have achieved this with his family of companies. QuickTrip. Johnson Controls. HP at one time - not since Carly. Landstar truck company. TMC trucking. BP - oops, sorry, wrong list.
And there are still many out there. (Here are some examples for you, Gaspar, in answer to the question in another topic.)
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on June 22, 2010, 11:03:45 PM
Wal Mart is a lot like Microsoft. Started small, grew over time due to herculean efforts of the people working there.
Yeah, it's not so much their vast economic power as the way they have been known to misuse it. Microsoft was nearly able to kill the open Internet. Had they been successful, much of the innovation we've seen in the last five years wouldn't have been possible. Sort of like when WMT pays suppliers as little as they do, there's no money left to do R&D and come up with new and better products.
What annoys me more about WMT is their illegal union-busting tactics. Whether or not you're a supporter of unions in principle, you have to agree that there's something wrong with a company illegally suppressing efforts to organize. If their position on the topic was as strong as they claim, they wouldn't have any need to go beyond the bounds of the law.
Besides the mentioned problems with produce, variety, and poor quality meat. I always find their lines to take so much longer than other grocery stores. I would rather go across the street to Reasor's than wait in the long lines at WNM at 21st and Harvard, half the time they are out of what I am looking for or don't even stock it. I find the selection at Reasor's is more extensive, I can find products that contain healthier ingredients, they also have the easy to maneuver European type carts, I feel like I fly through the store with ease. When I think of WNM I think of a large scale, yet slow convenience store, it's got your basics, your impulse buys but doesn't grasp further than that immediate level of gratification.
Tulsa could REALLY use another Whole Foods, I am not sure if Tulsa Hills is the best location for them or not but people already travel from Bixby to go to the one in mid-town. Can't imagine it would do poorly. Doubly poor on the developers part to deny a Super-Target at this location, love Target's grocery but the current locations are in way out in traffic jam city. I-75 would be convenient in comparison.
Quote from: Ihearttacos on June 28, 2010, 02:38:03 PM
Besides the mentioned problems with produce, variety, and poor quality meat. I always find their lines to take so much longer than other grocery stores. I would rather go across the street to Reasor's than wait in the long lines at WNM at 21st and Harvard, half the time they are out of what I am looking for or don't even stock it. I find the selection at Reasor's is more extensive, I can find products that contain healthier ingredients, they also have the easy to maneuver European type carts, I feel like I fly through the store with ease. When I think of WNM I think of a large scale, yet slow convenience store, it's got your basics, your impulse buys but doesn't grasp further than that immediate level of gratification.
Tulsa could REALLY use another Whole Foods, I am not sure if Tulsa Hills is the best location for them or not but people already travel from Bixby to go to the one in mid-town. Can't imagine it would do poorly. Doubly poor on the developers part to deny a Super-Target at this location, love Target's grocery but the current locations are in way out in traffic jam city. I-75 would be convenient in comparison.
I'm with you 100% on the idea of another Whole Foods. If they would put one in the development, albeit a stalled one, at 121st & Memorial it would boom. I know people in Bixby would also love a Reasor's in that location, or anywhere for that matter, but Reasor's seems to be afraid to compete with the Wal-Mart at 11th.
Quote from: Ibanez on June 29, 2010, 09:11:33 AM
I'm with you 100% on the idea of another Whole Foods. If they would put one in the development, albeit a stalled one, at 121st & Memorial it would boom. I know people in Bixby would also love a Reasor's in that location, or anywhere for that matter, but Reasor's seems to be afraid to compete with the Wal-Mart at 11th.
Given Akin's just opened there, I doubt Whole Foods will appear.
Quote from: sgrizzle on June 29, 2010, 10:28:03 AM
Given Akin's just opened there, I doubt Whole Foods will appear.
True, but Akin's is seriously lacking in the grocery department. I was in there one day last week and the store is very well laid out and clean, I just wish they had more variety and a bulk foods area like Whole Foods. We buy all of our flour that way and Akin's just doesn't offer that option.
I wonder when we will test the real capabilities of the flood control at 121st and Memorial again.
Quote from: Ihearttacos on June 28, 2010, 02:38:03 PM
Besides the mentioned problems with produce, variety, and poor quality meat. I always find their lines to take so much longer than other grocery stores. I would rather go across the street to Reasor's than wait in the long lines at WNM at 21st and Harvard, half the time they are out of what I am looking for or don't even stock it. I find the selection at Reasor's is more extensive, I can find products that contain healthier ingredients,
I presume you're talking about the Neighborhood Market at 21st and Yale and comparing it to the nearby Reasor's, which doesn't stock sushi like the one at 15th and Harvard does. :(
Not that grocery store sushi is great or anything, but it's not bad and it's convenient.
Quote from: nathanm on June 29, 2010, 04:26:10 PM
I presume you're talking about the Neighborhood Market at 21st and Yale and comparing it to the nearby Reasor's, which doesn't stock sushi like the one at 15th and Harvard does. :(
Not that grocery store sushi is great or anything, but it's not bad and it's convenient.
There is no Reasor's at 15th & Harvard. I've never noticed the Sushi at the 15th & Lewis one but there is some at 41st & Yale store.
That part settled, who on earth buys sushi from Reasor's in the first place? That seems so un-holy. I can see buying from some place which actually makes it fresh like Whole Paycheck or Petty's (at least I think they do), but not pre-packaged, ghack!
Quote from: Conan71 on June 29, 2010, 04:30:30 PM
I've never noticed the Sushi at the 15th & Lewis one but there is some at 41st & Yale store.
They do have some at the 15th & Lewis location. I had a friend say that it was "acceptable".
Quote from: Conan71 on June 29, 2010, 04:30:30 PM
There is no Reasor's at 15th & Harvard. I've never noticed the Sushi at the 15th & Lewis one but there is some at 41st & Yale store.
That part settled, who on earth buys sushi from Reasor's in the first place? That seems so un-holy. I can see buying from some place which actually makes it fresh like Whole Paycheck or Petty's (at least I think they do), but not pre-packaged, ghack!
Yeah, I miswrote Harvard when I meant Lewis. And yes, they do have sushi there. It's next to the imported cheeses. At least up until the remodel some months back, they made fresh sushi. As I said, it's not bad. Not great, but not bad and highly convenient.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 29, 2010, 04:30:30 PM
There is no Reasor's at 15th & Harvard. I've never noticed the Sushi at the 15th & Lewis one but there is some at 41st & Yale store.
That part settled, who on earth buys sushi from Reasor's in the first place? That seems so un-holy. I can see buying from some place which actually makes it fresh like Whole Paycheck or Petty's (at least I think they do), but not pre-packaged, ghack!
Reasors in Jenks has an actual sushi bar and it's all made there on site to order if you want.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 29, 2010, 04:30:30 PM
There is no Reasor's at 15th & Harvard. I've never noticed the Sushi at the 15th & Lewis one but there is some at 41st & Yale store.
That part settled, who on earth buys sushi from Reasor's in the first place? That seems so un-holy. I can see buying from some place which actually makes it fresh like Whole Paycheck or Petty's (at least I think they do), but not pre-packaged, ghack!
While in HS, I actually worked at the Pricemart (eventually bought out by Reasors) at 41st and yale. While working there, they had a man of asian decent who would fix sushi fresh DAILY. MANY MANY people came in after 5PM and bought all different flavors. I remember trying it the first time there, and it was the california spicy roll. It was actually quite good, just not filling. I prefer meat and potatoes. I dont know if they still make it fresh daily since that store has undergone some remodeling over the past 5yrs, but I can vouge for them making fresh 9 yrs ago!
Quote from: TUalum0982 on June 29, 2010, 08:56:23 PM
While in HS, I actually worked at the Pricemart (eventually bought out by Reasors) at 41st and yale. While working there, they had a man of asian decent who would fix sushi fresh DAILY. MANY MANY people came in after 5PM and bought all different flavors. I remember trying it the first time there, and it was the california spicy roll. It was actually quite good, just not filling. I prefer meat and potatoes. I dont know if they still make it fresh daily since that store has undergone some remodeling over the past 5yrs, but I can vouge for them making fresh 9 yrs ago!
Ah, how I miss PriceMart. Used to go to the one up on Admiral where the big bingo place is now. Right by Jubilee Liquors.
http://www.tulsabusiness.com/article.asp?aID=51317
Camille's out, another BBI brand in
Tulsa Business Staff
7/5/2010
The space at 1342 E. 15th St. that recently housed a Camille's Sidewalk Cafe now sits vacant — but not for long.
David Rutkauskas, founder of Camille's and Beautiful Brands International, which owns the franchise, said the franchise location on Cherry Street closed when BBI terminated its agreement with the franchisee last month.
"It wasn't the right situation for Camille's," he said.
BBI still has the lease on the space and plans to move in another brand in the next 90 to 120 days. Though Rutkauskas wouldn't specify which brand would be occupying the space, he did say it would be co-branded with a self-serve FreshBerry Frozen Yogurt Cafe. The mystery brand will be owned by a franchisee, while FreshBerry will be corporate-owned.
BBI owns 14 fast-casual and casual restaurant brands in its portfolio, and there are five other Camille's operating in the Tulsa MSA. Another is expected to open in Bixby, likely near 101st Street and Memorial Drive, before the end of the year.
Here are their 14 brands:
http://www.beautifulbrands.net/index.cfm?id=3
Quote from: sgrizzle on July 06, 2010, 10:08:28 AM
Here are their 14 brands:
http://www.beautifulbrands.net/index.cfm?id=3
Wow. Rex's Chicken?
Quote from: Hoss on July 06, 2010, 10:14:33 AM
Wow. Rex's Chicken?
I take it you're not reading the Rex Chicken thread.
Quote from: sgrizzle on July 06, 2010, 12:06:50 PM
I take it you're not reading the Rex Chicken thread.
No, that's the reason why I said that...I have been reading it.
Wal-Mart buys Tulsa Hills land
The purchase is apparently for a new Sam's Club store
http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=32&articleid=20100708_32_E1_Areale169804
I'm still hoping for a Costco around here one day
The new Sam's opens on September 29.
Quote from: Nik on September 08, 2011, 10:08:39 AM
The new Sam's opens on September 29.
Ladies and gentlemen, start your motorized shopping scooters.
Quote from: nathanm on June 22, 2010, 12:45:46 PM
Alls I know is that Albertson's paid their employees reasonably well and prices weren't nearly as much higher as you claim.
Also, other companies use a lot of part time labor because that's what the employees are looking for. (aside from their seasonal hiring, of course, which is all part time) A friend of mine manages a fast food restaurant. Almost everybody who wants full time gets it, so long as there are enough hours to go around. He's also got plenty of part timers, but the almost all want it that way. Works out well for him since he needs some part timers for Friday and Saturday rush and to fill in on occasion if someone calls in sick. And his company has a lower threshold to qualify for benefits than WMT does. Unless it's changed recently, WMT offers benefits if you work 40 hours a week. (for the purposes of marketing, they call 37 hour a week employees 'full time'). This particular restaurant chain offers benefits, including the accrual of paid vacation, if you work 25 hours a week or more.
Albertson's also treated those same employees like crap. Have two close family members that were in that 'high wage' environment for a few years and it was not a job I would want.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 29, 2010, 04:30:30 PM
There is no Reasor's at 15th & Harvard. I've never noticed the Sushi at the 15th & Lewis one but there is some at 41st & Yale store.
That part settled, who on earth buys sushi from Reasor's in the first place? That seems so un-holy. I can see buying from some place which actually makes it fresh like Whole Paycheck or Petty's (at least I think they do), but not pre-packaged, ghack!
Why would someone eat sushi here in the middle of the continent in the first place - regardless of who prepares it? We are a thousand miles from the ocean for crying out loud!
I did see a note in the news last week how it is so dry in western Oklahoma and most of Texas that the fish are stirring up small duststorms when they try to swim upstream!
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 19, 2011, 01:04:28 PM
Why would someone eat sushi here in the middle of the continent in the first place - regardless of who prepares it? We are a thousand miles from the ocean for crying out loud!
In fairness, a lot of the sushi grade fish comes from Japan, so even eating sushi on the west coast means your fish came from thousands of miles away - not that I would buy sushi from Reasor's.
Quote from: DTowner on September 19, 2011, 01:29:14 PM
In fairness, a lot of the sushi grade fish comes from Japan, so even eating sushi on the west coast means your fish came from thousands of miles away - not that I would buy sushi from Reasor's.
The Reasors in Jenks has an actual sushi bar with Sushi chefs preparing the sushi fresh to order.
Quote from: swake on September 19, 2011, 01:49:55 PM
The Reasors in Jenks has an actual sushi bar with Sushi chefs preparing the sushi fresh to order.
That's duji and not sushi....it will get worse. Sushi is becoming extinct.
Quote from: Teatownclown on September 19, 2011, 01:57:17 PM
That's duji and not sushi....it will get worse. Sushi is becoming extinct.
I didn't comment on the quality
Quote from: swake on September 19, 2011, 01:49:55 PM
The Reasors in Jenks has an actual sushi bar with Sushi chefs preparing the sushi fresh to order.
Probably the closest thing we have to Market Street in the area.
Of all the places, Wichita Falls has about the coolest supermarket I've ever been in.
http://www.marketstreetunited.com/aboutus.asp
Quote from: Conan71 on September 19, 2011, 02:43:03 PM
Probably the closest thing we have to Market Street in the area.
Of all the places, Wichita Falls has about the coolest supermarket I've ever been in.
http://www.marketstreetunited.com/aboutus.asp
Fry's in Sierra Vista, AZ. Puts almost all of ours to shame. The Reasor's in Jenks is okay but pales to this particular Fry's.
I've been to the one in Flagstaff and was not particularly impressed. Maybe the one in SV is better.
Just posted by a friend of mine on FB:
QuoteNo parking at grand opening of Sam's at 71st and HWY 75. I will have to come back tomorrow....
Quote from: Townsend on September 29, 2011, 03:33:32 PM
Just posted by a friend of mine on FB:
I hope the bulk toilet paper and peter pan holds out.
Quote from: carltonplace on September 29, 2011, 03:52:33 PM
I hope the bulk toilet paper and peter pan holds out.
I'm betting on some torn mumu's and more than one sample woman knocked the hell out in the stampede.
I have qualms with the "pay money to buy something from a warehouse full of mostly-junk stocked by minimum wage employees"
Now.. If we had a Costco I'd think about it.
Quote from: sgrizzle on September 29, 2011, 05:36:45 PM
I have qualms with the "pay money to buy something from a warehouse full of mostly-junk stocked by minimum wage employees"
Now.. If we had a Costco I'd think about it.
Wine-in-grocery-stores.