And why I am getting fed up with funding these ideological "teachers":
http://wbztv.com/video/?id=90267@wbz.dayport.com
Morons work at all kinds of schools.
Wonder if it's okay to her to go to a special olympics awards ceremony with a "quit coddling retards" banner.
Quote from: sgrizzle on June 14, 2010, 09:19:11 PM
Wonder if it's okay to her to go to a special olympics awards ceremony with a "quit coddling retards" banner.
OMG!!!
There are stupid people everywhere. That being said, school assemblies are not the place to air out your social agendas.
So she held up a sign that simply stated "End War", big whoop.
It sounds like everyone was being respectful all around. Let her have her difference of opinion. If it affects her teaching practices, sure, fire her ass then.
OP, I think you should start thinking about home schooling your child if this gets you so riled up.
<--- Far from being a lib.
Why are they having a special assembly honoring those entering the military?
And where were the tea party people? After all, aren't these students contributing to a larger federal government?
There is a Church in Kansas that would welcome her with open arms.
Maybe she could teach Sunday School.
I think we should have teachers that tell students how wonderful it is to die to serve their god. And doing so will get them immediately into heaven. Screw this "End War" Crap!
Quote from: Trogdor on June 15, 2010, 02:37:33 PM
I think we should have teachers that tell students how wonderful it is to die to serve their god. And doing so will get them immediately into heaven. Screw this "End War" Crap!
You forgot the part about them getting 72 virgins in Heaven for their sacrifice.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 15, 2010, 02:50:25 PM
You forgot the part about them getting 72 virgins in Heaven for their sacrifice.
See, I think that's the problem. Who would want 72 virgins?
Give me one experienced woman, a 12 pack of Marshalls and a nice sunset to enjoy as the thread drifts away.
Quote from: Mike 01Hawk on June 15, 2010, 10:14:06 AM
OP, I think you should start thinking about home schooling your child if this gets you so riled up.
My kids are in private school, far protected from some teacher who feels it necessary to criticize recent grads' decision to serve in a very honorable profession.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 15, 2010, 02:50:25 PM
You forgot the part about them getting 72 virgins Virginians in Heaven for their sacrifice.
You know, George Washington, Tom Jefferson,.....
Quote from: TURobY on June 15, 2010, 01:14:34 PM
Why are they having a special assembly honoring those entering the military?
Why not? You have a problem with showing respect for those willing to spill their blood and put their lives on the line in service of their country?
Quote from: Red Arrow on June 15, 2010, 03:00:12 PM
You know, George Washington, Tom Jefferson,.....
A HUGE +1. Shame on those who normally support our soldiers mocking their commitment.
Quote from: guido911 on June 15, 2010, 03:00:58 PM
Why not? You have a problem with showing respect for those willing to spill their blood and put their lives on the line in service of their country?
Oh, no, Turoby, you've just unleashed the self-righteous beast....
Quote from: guido911 on June 15, 2010, 03:00:58 PM
Why not? You have a problem with showing respect for those willing to spill their blood and put their lives on the line in service of their country?
Just wondering why that's not any more of an "ideological" stance made by the school than by the teachers not supporting the war...
Quote from: Gaspar on June 15, 2010, 02:56:34 PM
See, I think that's the problem. Who would want 72 virgins?
Give me one experienced woman, a 12 pack of Marshalls Kegs and a nice sunset to enjoy as the thread drifts away.
FIFY
Quote from: TURobY on June 15, 2010, 03:28:54 PM
Just wondering why that's not any more of an "ideological" stance made by the school than by the teachers not supporting the war...
Because its his ideology.. Duh..
Quote from: Trogdor on June 15, 2010, 03:42:43 PM
Because its his ideology.. Duh..
I never realized supporting our soldiers (and inductees) was ideological until just now. Who'd a thunk it? Also, funny how supporting our troops means you support war?
From those both mocking our soldiers commitment (the 72 virgin crowd) and those defending the teacher's position, I guess it is safe to say, you can't support the troops and not the war.
Quote from: guido911 on June 15, 2010, 03:48:32 PM
I never realized supporting our soldiers (and inductees) was ideological until just now. Who'd a thunk it? Also, funny how supporting our troops means you support war?
From those both mocking our soldiers commitment (the 72 virgin crowd) and those defending the teacher's position, I guess it is safe to say, you can't support the troops and not the war.
Actually, I was mocking our enemies Guido. Chill.
Then shouldn't there be a ceremony for all students who are entering the work-force after high school? After all, without all of us who aren't serving in the military, there wouldn't be anything for the soldiers to protect.
Quote from: TURobY on June 15, 2010, 03:54:17 PM
Then shouldn't there be a ceremony for all students who are entering the work-force after high school? After all, without all of us who aren't serving in the military, there wouldn't be anything for the soldiers to protect.
We already do and that ceremony is called "commencement".
Perhaps you are simply trying to egg-on Guido, but I think the military represents a certain level of noteworthy sacrifice that none of us can appreciate who have not served. It's a sacrifice deserving of a lot of respect.
Quote from: guido911 on June 15, 2010, 03:48:32 PM
Also, funny how supporting our troops means you support war?
Huh? I hear this all the time.. Though I think it varies with who starts it. I personally do not believe that Sean Hannity and Limbaugh are against the troops. They do not support all conflicts the United States has been in.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 15, 2010, 03:57:43 PM
Perhaps you are simply trying to egg-on Guido, but I think the military represents a certain level of noteworthy sacrifice that none of us can appreciate who have not served. It's a sacrifice deserving of a lot of respect.
Perhaps. But it's also worth noting that there are occupations that have higher death rates per 100,000 people than the military does. It's not like they're the only ones at high risk while doing their jobs, and you don't hear them bleating about sacrifices.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 15, 2010, 03:57:43 PM
We already do and that ceremony is called "commencement".
Perhaps you are simply trying to egg-on Guido, but I think the military represents a certain level of noteworthy sacrifice that none of us can appreciate who have not served. It's a sacrifice deserving of a lot of respect.
Commencement is not a celebration of the career choices made by high school students.
I'm not trying to egg-him-on at all. I'm asking why their decision to enter the military is any more important than my decision to contribute to the productivity and output of our nation. Both are important, and neither could exist without the other.
Quote from: rwarn17588 on June 15, 2010, 04:06:09 PM
Perhaps. But it's also worth noting that there are occupations that have higher death rates per 100,000 people than the military does. It's not like they're the only ones at high risk while doing their jobs, and you don't hear them bleating about sacrifices.
Touche or Oh Snap ! Whichever you prefer.
Quote from: rwarn17588 on June 15, 2010, 04:06:09 PM
But it's also worth noting that there are occupations that have higher death rates per 100,000 people than the military does.
We have been pretty good about not losing service people compared to say WWII. Will you name a few examples of occupations (other than drug dealer etc) that have higher death rates than the military...in a war zone. I don't think it would be really legitimate to compare war zone death rates with say a desk job in the Pentagon.
Quote from: rwarn17588 on June 15, 2010, 04:06:09 PM
Perhaps. But it's also worth noting that there are occupations that have higher death rates per 100,000 people than the military does. It's not like they're the only ones at high risk while doing their jobs, and you don't hear them bleating about sacrifices.
Wow, talk about glib.
Next time you see a soldier in fatigues walking through the airport, remind him or her of that, they should all be taken down a notch anyhow, right? I'm sure they will appreciate you crapping on their occupational choice. I'd venture 9 out of 10 would support your right to free speech that they fight for.
It's not about death rates, sacrifice means a whole lot more than risking your life. It also means totally giving up your own liberties while you are deployed, trying to sleep in 120 degree heat amongst many other mental and physical hardships, and not seeing your spouse or children for over a year. All this while about 1/2 of the country doesn't consider that you are fighting an enemy nor directly defending American freedom.
Quote from: rwarn17588 on June 15, 2010, 04:06:09 PM
Perhaps. But it's also worth noting that there are occupations that have higher death rates per 100,000 people than the military does. It's not like they're the only ones at high risk while doing their jobs, and you don't hear them bleating about sacrifices.
Fine, have a ceremony for those folks as well if you like. During the coal miner's rally, I will be the guy in the crowd waiving the "green energy" or "down with coal" signs and for the deep sea fisherman's rally, I will have the "eat more chicken" or "save the ___ (name your favorite sea animal) sign.Doubt those signs would have the same effect though as an "End War" sign at a GI rally. Oh, and let's see how many people actually will show at those other carrier's rallies versus those people entering military service where there is proud tradition of patriotism and love of country.
^^^ I see the bleating has commenced.
^^I see the zero appreciation peacenik crowd has arrived.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 15, 2010, 04:23:57 PM
It's not about death rates, sacrifice means a whole lot more than risking your life. It also means totally giving up your own liberties while you are deployed, trying to sleep in 120 degree heat amongst many other mental and physical hardships, and not seeing your spouse or children for over a year. All this while about 1/2 of the country doesn't consider that you are fighting an enemy nor directly defending American freedom.
Many, many occupations have sacrifices (brutal conditions, debilitating injuries, harrowing experiences), and I'd say a higher death rate certainly would certainly qualify as a sacrifice as well.
And being part of the American free-enterprise system -- that generates taxes instead of spending them, I should add -- promotes freedom as well.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 15, 2010, 04:36:39 PM
^^I see the zero appreciation peacenik crowd has arrived.
Why must I appreciate them any more than I appreciate the contributions of all productive American citizens?
Quote from: Conan71 on June 15, 2010, 04:36:39 PM
^^I see the zero appreciation peacenik crowd has arrived.
I'm no peacenik. You know that.
But I also recognize that many, many folks make sacrifices ... often deep ones. It's not just one segment of society.
Man, Guido pounded into you guys to get you going.
Just forget this thread exists and you'll be a happier person.
You'd think those who'd be in full agreement with that teacher's "End War" sentiment would be those people hunkered down in a ditch with bullets hitting the berm above them.