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Title: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: TheTed on May 15, 2010, 01:15:08 AM
Mod's Coffee and Crepes in the old Kokoa space on Boston looks to be opening soon. Gelato and smoothies, too. Apparently it's owned by the former Collective owner.  

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bixby-OK/2-Brothers-Bistro/73779309026#!/pages/Tulsa-OK/Mods-Coffee-Crepes/113831385320195?v=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bixby-OK/2-Brothers-Bistro/73779309026#!/pages/Tulsa-OK/Mods-Coffee-Crepes/113831385320195?v=wall)

Sounds promising. Hope it's open evenings/weekends.

Across the street, Elote has been advertising their new bar. Is this a bar open normal bar hours, or is it just open until 10pm or whatever? Anybody been here and have any opinions?

A block north, the new hotel in the Atlas Life is opening soon. Hopefully this leads to more evening/weekend life and maybe some Atlas Grill nights/weekend hours. Anybody heard anything?
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: rdj on May 15, 2010, 10:20:23 AM
The folks opening Mod's also are tied in with the Bed & Breakfast on 21st by Woodward Park.  Mother/son I believe.

Elote is only open until 10p.

I haven't heard any word on how late Atlas is going to be open.  You could always join the Press Club across the way from Atlas Grill for late night drinks.
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: Rico on May 15, 2010, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: rdj on May 15, 2010, 10:20:23 AM
The folks opening Mod's also are tied in with the Bed & Breakfast on 21st by Woodward Park.  Mother/son I believe.

Elote is only open until 10p.

I haven't heard any word on how late Atlas is going to be open.  You could always join the Press Club across the way from Atlas Grill for late night drinks.

Why sure.... The Press Club. Might even get to rub elbows with the mighty ones.

More of our tax dollar$ hard at work....
Pub crawls are a much needed expense.

Maybe even catch the late show.



http://www.growmetrotulsa.com/
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: TheTed on May 15, 2010, 12:30:38 PM
There were definitely several people sitting at the bar at Elote after midnight last night, but I was kind of in a hurry and didn't stop and check it out.
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: TheTed on May 15, 2010, 04:33:33 PM
Answered my own question. Open 'til 2am with Mexican wrestling, even.

QuoteOn May 5, Auld will add about 1,500 square feet to the estimated 3,000-square-foot Mexican restaurant, featuring a 16-foot-long eco- friendly bar and a 10-foot Luchador wrestling ring.

By extending Elote's hours to 2 a.m. Wednesday through Saturday nights, Auld hopes to become the first successful skyscraper district restaurant in many years to provide early morning service.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4182/is_20100422//ai_n53339149/ (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4182/is_20100422//ai_n53339149/)
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: JoeMommaBlake on May 15, 2010, 05:40:39 PM
Greetings friends. The owner of Mod's is Rusty Rowe. He was the owner of The Collective and is the son of the bed and breakfast owners. After The Collective closed, I approached Rusty about working with me at Joe Momma's until we could open a concept together. I thought The Collective was a great place and loved his enthusiasm as much as his concept. While Rusty was with me at Joe Momma's, we worked together to create a new concept on 6th street and even signed a lease for the space on the southeast corner of 6th and Peoria.

During that time the space on Boston, which was already mostly built out became available. We changed plans a bit and I encouraged Rusty to go it on his own. He came up with the crepe concept and I think it's great. I just talked with him this afternoon and it's my understanding that they should be open in a little over a month. They're going to serve crepes. They'll be made right there in front of you like this:
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Cool, eh?

I love what Libby has done with Elote and I think Rusty will bring a fresh concept and a very cool product to an increasingly cool Boston Ave.

I encourage you all to check it out and support his endeavor...as well as Libby's new very cool bar.

It's fun to watch our downtown grow up before our eyes. We just have to remember to keep supporting the entrepreneurs who are making it happen.

By the way, if you're not at Mayfest or the Blue Dome Festival, you're missing out.
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: TheTed on May 15, 2010, 05:45:33 PM
Quote from: JoeMommaBlake on May 15, 2010, 05:40:39 PM
I encourage you all to check it out and support his endeavor...as well as Libby's new very cool bar.

Is Mod's gonna be open evening and/or weekend hours?
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: TheTed on June 13, 2010, 02:52:49 AM
Elote was not open until 2am Friday night. Guess that's the end of that???
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: dsjeffries on June 13, 2010, 02:26:18 PM
I don't think staying open until 2 a.m. was ever part of their plan. Their website lists closing time as 10 p.m.
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: TheTed on June 13, 2010, 03:05:59 PM
Quote from: dsjeffries on June 13, 2010, 02:26:18 PM
I don't think staying open until 2 a.m. was ever part of their plan. Their website lists closing time as 10 p.m.
I've been there after midnight in the past few weeks. The article farther up in this thread says their bar is open 'til 2am several days. Unfortunately, they couldn't serve even chips when I went there. Bar only.

Regardless of what they settle on, somebody other than Mr. Joe Momma needs to serve an actual full menu past 10pm.
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: joiei on June 13, 2010, 07:05:02 PM
If you have paying people at the bar you keep it open, if you don't you close it up. 
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: TheTed on June 13, 2010, 09:50:36 PM
Quote from: joiei on June 13, 2010, 07:05:02 PM
If you have paying people at the bar you keep it open, if you don't you close it up.  
If a business is unable to keep predictable hours, I'm not going to count on them being open when I want to visit. I'll go somewhere that I'm fairly certain will be open.

I don't know anything about running a business, but as a customer, a business staying open until a pre-specified time on each day may lose money some nights, but it buys a lot of goodwill. I'm not gonna call before I visit every time, and I'm not gonna waste my time visiting a business that may or may not be open.

If a business wants my money, don't make it difficult for me. Elote may still be ironing things out but they need to settle on some hours, update their website, and keep those hours unless there's a blizzard or something.
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: TheTed on June 17, 2010, 11:23:41 AM
Elote's hours:
Quote11 a.m. to 2 p.m. Monday, 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. Tuesday-Friday, 4-10 p.m. Saturday

Bar open until midnight the first and third Thursday each month
http://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/article.aspx?subjectID=274&articleID=20100617_456_WK7_tablet789116

So they tried the late bar hours for what, a month, maybe six weeks? This seems to happen nonstop with downtown businesses, trying late hours for a period of time insufficient to make any determinations. And during that time, they probably closed early half the time due to lack of business.

You wouldn't open up a new restaurant, then go out of business a month later because you're not making money. I don't see how they can try late hours, then drop them before most people even know about them. There was almost zero publicity they were open late in the first place.
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: dsjeffries on June 17, 2010, 05:20:53 PM
Quote from: TheTed on June 17, 2010, 11:23:41 AM
Elote's hours:http://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/article.aspx?subjectID=274&articleID=20100617_456_WK7_tablet789116

So they tried the late bar hours for what, a month, maybe six weeks? This seems to happen nonstop with downtown businesses, trying late hours for a period of time insufficient to make any determinations. And during that time, they probably closed early half the time due to lack of business.

You wouldn't open up a new restaurant, then go out of business a month later because you're not making money. I don't see how they can try late hours, then drop them before most people even know about them. There was almost zero publicity they were open late in the first place.

Ted, I don't think you read what you just posted. They're STILL open late on the first and third Thursday of each month--that's when they have the luchador matches. They didn't try something and fail--they're pretty successful at it, and according to the owner, with whom I just spoke on the phone, they only close as early as 10 if there's not a band playing. They don't have a lack of business, and they haven't dropped any of the hours.

On a side note, I think it's odd that you're complaining about a business in downtown not being open at 2 a.m. when we can't even keep most businesses open past 2 p.m.
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: TheTed on June 17, 2010, 09:31:09 PM
Quote from: dsjeffries on June 17, 2010, 05:20:53 PM
Ted, I don't think you read what you just posted. They're STILL open late on the first and third Thursday of each month--that's when they have the luchador matches. They didn't try something and fail--they're pretty successful at it, and according to the owner, with whom I just spoke on the phone, they only close as early as 10 if there's not a band playing. They don't have a lack of business, and they haven't dropped any of the hours.

On a side note, I think it's odd that you're complaining about a business in downtown not being open at 2 a.m. when we can't even keep most businesses open past 2 p.m.

That article makes it appear that they close at 10pm, save for the two Thursdays a month. I saw they weren't open late one night last weekend. If they are actually open past 10pm most weekends, I stand corrected. I'm basing my criticism off that TW article. Regardless, they need to serve at least chips after 10pm. Maybe a couple appetizers, too.

A restaurant closing at 10pm on a Saturday night, to me, is still pretty terrible. That's not acceptable in a city that draws young people. How many restaurants in entertainment areas of Portland, Chicago, NYC close at 10pm on a Saturday night? Closing at 10pm is not even acceptable in an average college town.

I'm a night owl. I spend the majority of my time out and about after 10pm. It seems I spend a good amount of energy attempting to visit restaurants and bars that have either decided to close early for the night or changed their hours for the worse and failed to update their websites for months.

I love visiting other cities and not having to watch the clock to figure out my dining. There will be something to eat when I want to eat. Here, that's not the case at all. I barely get to Joe Momma's before their midnight closing time a lot of times. Their business at that hour seems to have grown over time. It's frequently pretty busy at 11:45pm nowadays. Nobody else downtown is even willing to give late hours enough of a chance to find out if they'll work. A month or two is not enough time to make a determination.
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: Red Arrow on June 17, 2010, 10:18:25 PM
Quote from: TheTed on June 17, 2010, 09:31:09 PM
I'm a night owl. I spend the majority of my time out and about after 10pm.

I was a night owl when I worked the 4pm to midnight shift in the Navy in my 20s.  Not any more, I have to get up at 6AM to go to work.
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: BKDotCom on February 13, 2013, 01:46:51 PM
I can't find the thread talking about the horrible hours that the little "taqueria" on Boston ("La Boca Loca") has had.
I went in there for lunch..
They're now advertising Thru-Sun hours 11am-3am

never been in before... but I have the impression it's under new mgmt

http://www.facebook.com/LaBocaLocaOK
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: Conan71 on February 13, 2013, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: BKDotCom on February 13, 2013, 01:46:51 PM
I can't find the thread talking about the horrible hours that the little "taqueria" on Boston ("La Boca Loca") has had.
I went in there for lunch..
They're now advertising Thru-Sun hours 11am-3am

never been in before... but I have the impression it's under new mgmt

http://www.facebook.com/LaBocaLocaOK


...and?? Is it worthy or take a pass?
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: DowntownDan on February 13, 2013, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: BKDotCom on February 13, 2013, 01:46:51 PM
I can't find the thread talking about the horrible hours that the little "taqueria" on Boston ("La Boca Loca") has had.
I went in there for lunch..
They're now advertising Thru-Sun hours 11am-3am

never been in before... but I have the impression it's under new mgmt

http://www.facebook.com/LaBocaLocaOK


To be clear, the page says 11am-3pm, and 11pm-3am.  Still no regular dinner hours.  I find that strange.
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: DowntownDan on February 13, 2013, 03:22:50 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on February 13, 2013, 03:18:45 PM
...and?? Is it worthy or take a pass?

I've had lunch there a few times.  It's good.  Real good.
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: davideinstein on February 13, 2013, 04:47:06 PM
We start construction on the Jimmy John's in the Thompson building in about two weeks.
Title: Re: Boston Ave businesses downtown
Post by: tulsa_fan on February 13, 2013, 06:24:41 PM
La Boca Loca is really really good!!!  They advertised breakfast tacos and I went by one morening and they weren't open.  I noticed they don't advertise that anymore  :(  If you haven't been, try it!  Especially on a nice day, take lunch across the street and sit in the park!!