I was biking around the Hill and took these pics of a new house under construction on N. Denver Pl. It's designed by Shelby Navarro of One Architecture (the same firm that designed the LEED Platinum lofts on Trenton) and it looks like this will be a 'green' home as well. The views have to be some of the best in Tulsa and the neighborhood is awesome, very eclectic with several really cool houses and several that could use some work..
The front
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View as you walk in the front door
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Skyline view from the living room/kitchen
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Second floor bedroom/balcony
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View from the 'lookout tower'
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At the risk of sounding like an idiot, I have to ask exactly where is reservoir hill?
Quote from: custosnox on May 13, 2010, 09:02:18 PM
At the risk of sounding like an idiot, I have to ask exactly where is reservoir hill?
Man. What a TOTAL idiot!
So where's Reservoir Hill again?
Quote from: we vs us on May 13, 2010, 10:43:11 PM
Man. What a TOTAL idiot!
So where's Reservoir Hill again?
Harhar...with the aid of Google Earth (and, by the way, they just updated the Tulsa image set. recent imagery was 4 years old, the newest aerial imagery is now from late March...it's also better detailed than it used to be).
The imagery is so new infact that I can ask the question if the house in question is on this image:
(http://www.tulsatrafficcirclewx.com/images/reshillhome.jpg)
But for those not familiar, the blue 'box' sort of outlines the ResHill neighborhood.
(http://www.tulsatrafficcirclewx.com/images/reshill.jpg)
I had noticed the new images the other day. Not only are they updated, but they are much clearer then the last set.
Thanks for pointing out where that is, I kinda figured it was in that general direction but wasn't real sure exactly where
Reservoir Hill is a cool old neighborhood north of Pine and south of Apache just east of the LL Tisdale. I'm pretty sure Hometown lives up there and knows the area well. Any kind of expansion of OSU-Tulsa just to the southeast would greatly benefit this neighborhood. There are a lot of well-kept homes in Reservoir Hill and Brady Heights to the south but still a lot of rundown homes in between that could be bought cheap with the potential to be fixed up.
I remember looking at that very vacant lot a while back and thinking... Wow, what a great view! Reservoir Hill does have some great old mansions, and new homes. Is essentially Mid-town North.
Right now I am really wanting to get a home or some property in Brady Heights, as soon as I possibly can. Would love to have or build a classic style Four Square. Was looking at a great corner lot and it just sold. Its going to be perhaps a couple years till I can get something there. Just hoping the property values dont go up too much during that time. Its really a treasure of a neighborhood and once its "gentrified" will be absolutely beautiful, and Waaay out of my price range lol.
Will,^
Try contacting Laurie with CB Urban. She has the most knowledge of what is available in the areas mentioned.
Laurie Keeley....#637-1328
Artist - my neighbor has expressed a desire to sell his house in the near future. He is an older gentleman that is looking for a condo or something with less work. It's not four-square, but it's Brady Heights.
We moved to Reservoir Hill in December. We love the area. We bought a 1925 Colonial fixer upper originally built by Cass Mayo. It is one of the last of the "mansions" left in the area. Our home is 3,100 sq ft including the finished basement. There are CHEAP houses available if you want a 2-3 bed with 1-1.5 baths. When I say cheap I mean $25k and less. They'll need $50-75k in upgrades but you'll have a cool house in what I believe to be an emerging area.
Shelby is building the house discussed in the OP for an older couple. They bought a post war house for $63k and knocked it down. I'm not sure what they are spending on the new house. Some of the neighbors aren't very happy with the design (one told me it looked like a hideous fire station) and the lot line to lot line construction. Personally, I love it. If you drive around the hill you'll see that architecture is as diverse as any in Tulsa so no reason to be upset with what they are building. As a word of warning the neighbors to the north of the house do not like the amount of people that tend to tour it (aka trespass) and will come out and give you a peace of their mind. The house to the south is super cool. It native sand stone and sits on a massive double lot. It has an old school rectangle pool complete with diving board and the view from the pool is stunning. I can envision some banging parties there back in the 20's. I believe it was built in 1925.
Here is a picture of the original house. You can kind of see the sand stone house to the south.
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Quote from: rdj on May 14, 2010, 08:42:38 PMThe house to the south is super cool. It native sand stone and sits on a massive double lot. It has an old school rectangle pool complete with diving board and the view from the pool is stunning. I can envision some banging parties there back in the 20's. I believe it was built in 1925.
Very cool house but appears to need some work. The view from the pool is awesome. It's great to see the revitalization of this neighborhood. I can see that whole area from Reservoir Hill south to downtown being a really desirable area it will just take more people like yourself and others renovating those old houses or building new ones. If you are looking for affordable housing near downtown there are lots of good buys in the area. Like I said as OSU expands I think you'll see more and more people, faculty and students, buying into these neighborhoods.
There is a really cool house for sale on Denver Pl between Main St & Cheyenne. It is probably a tear down. I believe the owner is the former owner of the Denver Grill downtown. They are asking $65k for the house. They also own the adjacent lot. Combined they are +/- 28,000 sq ft. The lot has an amazing view of the skyline and I doubt it would ever be obstructed. When I get home tonight I'll try and post some pictures. They are on my personal laptop.
Quote from: TheArtist on May 14, 2010, 10:07:38 AM
I remember looking at that very vacant lot a while back and thinking... Wow, what a great view! Reservoir Hill does have some great old mansions, and new homes. Is essentially Mid-town North.
Right now I am really wanting to get a home or some property in Brady Heights, as soon as I possibly can. Would love to have or build a classic style Four Square. Was looking at a great corner lot and it just sold. Its going to be perhaps a couple years till I can get something there. Just hoping the property values dont go up too much during that time. Its really a treasure of a neighborhood and once its "gentrified" will be absolutely beautiful, and Waaay out of my price range lol.
Artist, buy now.
Brady Heights is certainly on the climb and any purchase and fix up there would be a smart one.
FYI, "this old house magazine" recently listed Brady Heights as the best place in the nation to buy a Craftsman style house. If you buy one, be as sensitive to the Craftsman style as possible (bathrooms and kitchen particularly) and you will not spen your money in vain.
There are some pretty cool ones in Owen Park and Crosbie Heights as well with some pretty cool views.
Agreed
Quote from: Conan71 on May 17, 2010, 03:28:35 PM
There are some pretty cool ones in Owen Park and Crosbie Heights as well with some pretty cool views.
The Owen Park area is great. Crosbie Heights is still pretty rundown in a lot of areas but could really benefit from reinvestment and is well-connected to downtown via 3rd St. and Nogales. I am surprised more people haven't bought into this neighborhood for the views alone, especially along Nogales and Olympia where there are vacant lots with amazing views less than a half mile from the heart of downtown. There is a cool old red brick school? at Archer & Nogales that is currently vacant, just noticed it for the first time the other day biking through there.
Quote from: SXSW on May 17, 2010, 04:15:04 PM
The Owen Park area is great. Crosbie Heights is still pretty rundown in a lot of areas but could really benefit from reinvestment and is well-connected to downtown via 3rd St. and Nogales. I am surprised more people haven't bought into this neighborhood for the views alone, especially along Nogales and Olympia where there are vacant lots with amazing views less than a half mile from the heart of downtown. There is a cool old red brick school? at Archer & Nogales that is currently vacant, just noticed it for the first time the other day biking through there.
Archer & Nogales vacant.... Lots along Charles Page and Olympia.
Two words.. Buford, Quawpaw (sp)..
Best wishes.
Sorry it took me a few days. Here is the house I mentioned in an earlier post.
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I have no tie to this house other than it is in my neighborhood and I want to see someone buy it and do something cool with the land.
This house looks like it was pretty cool. Falling apart now. That is a lot of cracks on that one picture.
What are they asking for it?
I called a few weeks ago and they were asking $65k for the house. They also own the lot next to it and were willing "deal" on it with the person who buys the house.
Another house is for sale right around the corner from this one for $68.5k. Here is a link to it: http://my.mcgrawok.com/searchidx/hometour/tour1.asp?mlsnbr=1004852&type=mcgraw#
Also, around the corner a rent house is for sale for $39k. It is a decent little house but would need a good amount of work. It is a package deal with two other rent houses, so it wouldn't be attractive to most people.
If someone was looking for a finished house there is a house near the top of the hill that has a great view of downtown & the Osage Hills. They are asking $155k. I haven't been inside of it.. http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/260-W-Victoria-St-Tulsa-OK-74106/22149431_zpid/
That is a smoking price for the view and lot size. A knock-down wouldn't be a sin there considering the ecclectic nature of Reservoir Hill homes. I can't believe someone hasn't jumped on it. May be a near top market price on that lot today, but given that there are very few home sites with that kind of view available in the Tulsa area, I don't see how you lose on that deal.
I've driven through the area a couple times. I really like it, but I can't imagine how treacherous that neighborhood would be to navigate during an snow/ice storm. Not that there are enough storms to dissuade on that fact alone, but it has certainly crossed my mind.
Quote from: TURobY on May 19, 2010, 02:35:00 PM
I've driven through the area a couple times. I really like it, but I can't imagine how treacherous that neighborhood would be to navigate during an snow/ice storm. Not that there are enough storms to dissuade on that fact alone, but it has certainly crossed my mind.
Also, while Reservoir Hill itself is not a high crime area, it is close to neighborhoods with higher crime and rundown houses. Just this week someone was gunned down at the park south of the hill. However that area usually doesn't see as much crime as other parts of north Tulsa further to the north and east.
Quote from: SXSW on May 19, 2010, 03:14:23 PM
Also, while Reservoir Hill itself is not a high crime area, it is close to neighborhoods with higher crime and rundown houses. Just this week someone was gunned down at the park south of the hill. However that area usually doesn't see as much crime as other parts of north Tulsa further to the north and east.
Keep driving and don't stop to buy drugs at the park or ask directions from the wrong person and you are just fine.
Reservoir Hill is bounded by less desirable areas for several reasons. Our hope is that we could convince enough folks to join in the fun with us. The top of the hill has held pretty well. As you work down the hill where we are it becomes more sketchy. We're trying to be trailblazers for the next wave of interest in the hill (20's, 40's, 80's are previous high periods) and will either blaze it for others or have our butt blazed when no one else buys in.
Quote from: rdj on May 19, 2010, 10:43:43 PM
Reservoir Hill is bounded by less desirable areas for several reasons. Our hope is that we could convince enough folks to join in the fun with us. The top of the hill has held pretty well. As you work down the hill where we are it becomes more sketchy. We're trying to be trailblazers for the next wave of interest in the hill (20's, 40's, 80's are previous high periods) and will either blaze it for others or have our butt blazed when no one else buys in.
I think now is a good time to buy into this area. What it really needs to 'take off' is an expanded OSU-Tulsa presence, as it would be a natural target for faculty and students wanting to live in a cool area near the campus, and/or further revitalization of the Brady District/downtown in general. There are lots of gentrifying neighborhoods in Tulsa (and neighborhoods in need of gentrification), and the ones south of 244 will continue to be more desirable than ones to the north, at least for now.
The house is a ruin, truly. Very sad, as it looks like it was quite a place once upon a time. It'll cost a good deal to get equipment in there for demolition and get the wreckage out!
Terrific location, really great views and a nice lot(s), but $65k is too much. Given how long the Denver Grill folks held out on the city, I doubt the price will come down any...
As an FYI to anyone who contacts the seller, they are telling folks the house is historic. I've found nothing of the sorts. I've talked to other folks in the neighborhood who have refuted the claim. If historic=built in 20's, then yes it's historic. Point being, you won't need to go through a special process to tear it down.
This all reminds me of Mount Sequoyah in Fayetteville. For years it was covered in modest hillbilly homes with a few really nice places mixed in. T'was very nice to live up there in the mid-90s and earlier. Now that they've been putting in tons of multi-story housing, it's gotten a little dismal. It's rapidly losing its character, although you wouldn't know it from the land values. The weather is still better at the top of the hill, though.
From a seller's viewpoint, historic = "TOP $$$, best offer my BUTT!" That must be what's holding up the sale.
The house's structure has failed and is sloughing off the hill. Among many other things, the west (I think) wall is bowed way out (in spite of old repair attempts) and will fall down of its own accord pretty soon. Total mess. Historic or not, it would take a herculean bunch of work to save it.
Maybe the fireplace could be saved, might be worth it if it's an especially nice hearth.