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Title: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: godboko71 on May 05, 2010, 07:00:15 PM
Looks like Knotty Pine will be out of it for awhile, was driving past it going to Warehouse Market when I noticed fire trucks and Burgraff Restoration there. Could not tell how bad the damage was, will have to swing by tomorrow and take pictures.
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: sgrizzle on May 05, 2010, 09:04:53 PM
Have heard it is basically done. Pretty sure this isn't the first fire. I'm hoping they have good insurance and can rebuild a nicer building. I like the food but the building always kinda feels like it's gonna fall over.
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: GG on May 05, 2010, 10:16:10 PM
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100505_11_0_Acooki695866

Here is The Tulsa World report with some video. 

It does not look good. 

How sad, I worked for Cooper Mfg. when it was across the street from the Knotty Pine back in the late 70's. (Yes I'm old)  Loved eating there.  Have stopped by off and on in the years since.  Hate to see this in my town.
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: dbacks fan on May 06, 2010, 10:05:29 AM
I delivered freight in Tulsa in the 80's and when I had the west Tulsa Sand Springs route this was one of my favorite places for lunch and would stop in almost once a week for lunch. Hope that they rebuild, maybe in the Bluedome/Brady area.

I remeber the one in BA. Off of 71st and Lynn Lane IIRC. It was OK but not as good as the original on Charles Page. In the 70's and 80' it was an ideal lunch location wiht all of the mfg companies there. Wasn't it Wheaton or Wheatley pump they were next to as well?
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 10:14:19 AM
Question:

Is it possible for a BBQ restaurant to have smoke damage?

I'm going to miss that place.  One of my favorite places to take business clients.  Here's hoping they make it back.
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: Hoss on May 06, 2010, 11:21:55 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 10:14:19 AM
Question:

Is it possible for a BBQ restaurant to have smoke damage?

I'm going to miss that place.  One of my favorite places to take business clients.  Here's hoping they make it back.

Some of my coworkers were just talking about this though...if the fire damaged the smokers, the Knotty Pine flavor will likely never be the same.  It takes years to get those smokers seasoned to the flavor that makes them famous.

Truly sad.  I can remember being six or seven and going to this place.  I vividly remember the bar you would get served on.
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: jne on May 06, 2010, 11:31:07 AM
I think its time they left the old place behind and leased a space downtown.  I'm sure Tulsa would embrace them has top notch hometown Q.  They could sell pulled pork sandwich as the Ballpark, maybe even the BOK.
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: patric on May 06, 2010, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: sgrizzle on May 05, 2010, 09:04:53 PM
Have heard it is basically done. Pretty sure this isn't the first fire. I'm hoping they have good insurance and can rebuild a nicer building. I like the food but the building always kinda feels like it's gonna fall over.

That building had character.  It suited the business inside, and it's a shame it will be bulldozed.
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: jne on May 06, 2010, 11:31:07 AM
I think its time they left the old place behind and leased a space downtown.  I'm sure Tulsa would embrace them has top notch hometown Q.  They could sell pulled pork sandwich as the Ballpark, maybe even the BOK.

BBQ from a dive joint just tastes different than something polished, I can't explain why.  Though a basement BBQ joint like Rendezvous in Memphis would add a "cool" factor to downtown.  There used to be a dump out on Hwy 97 south between Sand Springs and Sapulpa (I want to say around 51st) where they had or have a flea market.  The place was called Ethel's.  They served the BBQ on wax paper and you did not dare touch anything in the place which was not on the wax paper.  Filthy as all hell but some damn great Que.
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: dbacks fan on May 06, 2010, 01:37:59 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 01:22:23 PM
BBQ from a dive joint just tastes different than something polished, I can't explain why.  Though a basement BBQ joint like Rendezvous in Memphis would add a "cool" factor to downtown.  There used to be a dump out on Hwy 97 south between Sand Springs and Sapulpa (I want to say around 51st) where they had or have a flea market.  The place was called Ethel's.  They served the BBQ on wax paper and you did not dare touch anything in the place which was not on the wax paper.  Filthy as all hell but some damn great Que.

There was a place in Muskogee on Shawnee Ave. that was similar. They served everything on a plastic tray with butcher paper on it, and if you sat at the counter you stayed awat from the area near the window to the kitchen, because the old man that ran the place cut the meat with a cleaver right there and occasionally bit's of meat would come out the window.

I think this is the place, just south of highway 62.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=567+W+Shawnee+Muskogee,+OK&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=567+W+Shawnee+St,+Muskogee,+Oklahoma+74401&gl=us&ei=KwzjS-6VFs29rAeWiNiAAw&ved=0CBQQ8gEwAA&ll=35.77378,-95.367572&spn=0,0.013754&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=35.769674,-95.367468&panoid=_tP5NsncJpkhz6hHgLzQsQ&cbp=12,182.64,,0,1.07 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=567+W+Shawnee+Muskogee,+OK&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=567+W+Shawnee+St,+Muskogee,+Oklahoma+74401&gl=us&ei=KwzjS-6VFs29rAeWiNiAAw&ved=0CBQQ8gEwAA&ll=35.77378,-95.367572&spn=0,0.013754&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=35.769674,-95.367468&panoid=_tP5NsncJpkhz6hHgLzQsQ&cbp=12,182.64,,0,1.07)
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: Ibanez on May 06, 2010, 01:38:53 PM
Quote from: patric on May 06, 2010, 01:12:38 PM
That building had character.  It suited the business inside, and it's a shame it will be bulldozed.

This
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 02:03:23 PM
Quote from: dbacks fan on May 06, 2010, 01:37:59 PM
There was a place in Muskogee on Shawnee Ave. that was similar. They served everything on a plastic tray with butcher paper on it, and if you sat at the counter you stayed awat from the area near the window to the kitchen, because the old man that ran the place cut the meat with a cleaver right there and occasionally bit's of meat would come out the window.

I think this is the place, just south of highway 62.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=567+W+Shawnee+Muskogee,+OK&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=567+W+Shawnee+St,+Muskogee,+Oklahoma+74401&gl=us&ei=KwzjS-6VFs29rAeWiNiAAw&ved=0CBQQ8gEwAA&ll=35.77378,-95.367572&spn=0,0.013754&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=35.769674,-95.367468&panoid=_tP5NsncJpkhz6hHgLzQsQ&cbp=12,182.64,,0,1.07 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=567+W+Shawnee+Muskogee,+OK&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=567+W+Shawnee+St,+Muskogee,+Oklahoma+74401&gl=us&ei=KwzjS-6VFs29rAeWiNiAAw&ved=0CBQQ8gEwAA&ll=35.77378,-95.367572&spn=0,0.013754&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=35.769674,-95.367468&panoid=_tP5NsncJpkhz6hHgLzQsQ&cbp=12,182.64,,0,1.07)


I believe you would be referring to the world-famous Slick's BBQ.  The old man wouldn't trust anyone else who worked for him around the register as I recall. 

Here's an interesting link I turned up looking for info on when Slick's closed up

http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/content/2007/oklahoma_100_food/rest.aspx
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: dbacks fan on May 06, 2010, 02:06:17 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 02:03:23 PM
I believe you would be referring to the world-famous Slick's BBQ.  The old man wouldn't trust anyone else who worked for him around the register as I recall.  

Yes that is the place. I personally witnessed a register event one day when a customer asked the waitress for change and I guess she was new there, because he came running out the minute she touched it cleaver in hand and told her "The next time you do that you will be without a job and maybe a hand".
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: sgrizzle on May 06, 2010, 03:03:19 PM
Quote from: patric on May 06, 2010, 01:12:38 PM
That building had character.  It suited the business inside, and it's a shame it will be bulldozed.

So does FOTD, doesn't mean I want to have lunch with him.
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: Townsend on May 06, 2010, 03:12:18 PM
http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=12440353 (http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=12440353)

"Knotty Pine Owner To Rebuild Restaurant After Fire"

QuoteTULSA, OK -- The owners of a popular Tulsa barbeque restaurant are making plans to rise from the ashes of a devastating fire.

The News On 6 was told Wednesday's fire at Knotty Pine barbeque in West Tulsa started in the pit.

Manager Priscilla Hutchinson says when they opened it to put in more meat the air fueled an intense fire they just couldn't put out.

Paul Woodard, owner of the Knotty Pine, says the fire just makes him sick, but tells us despite the damage, he will reopen.

"We're ready to get rebuilding," Woodard said.

"Yeah, we're ready to start anytime," Priscilla Hutchinson, manager, said. "Just as soon as we get the okay to do, we're going."

Workers spent Thursday cleaning out what didn't burn up in Wednesday's fire.

Woodard says Knotty Pine has been in his family since 1952, evolving from a beer joint into a barbeque joint over the years.

Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 03:45:31 PM
I'm betting the insurance company requires some sort of fire suppression system on the re-build.
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: godboko71 on May 06, 2010, 03:48:03 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 03:45:31 PM
I'm betting the insurance company requires some sort of fire suppression system on the re-build.

Most likely.
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: Who Cares on May 06, 2010, 04:37:24 PM
I'm a supplier for knotty pine, went by and talk to them today. Seems that the building isn't a total loss. They said they plan to reopen in a few months.
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: godboko71 on May 06, 2010, 05:50:26 PM
Yep workers where working on the building when I drove by today.
Title: Re: Knotty Pine Fire
Post by: cynical on May 06, 2010, 06:01:06 PM
The Rock Cafe in Stroud suffered more fire damage than this and managed to reopen.  I haven't been back to see how it has changed, but it is encouraging that Dawn could get it done.