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Title: Facebook
Post by: Admin on May 05, 2010, 02:34:33 PM
Got facebook? Check out the new button at the top of the thread.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: custosnox on May 05, 2010, 03:00:55 PM
Had seen that a bit ago.  Was going to comment but haven't had the chance, and forget to when I do.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: custosnox on May 05, 2010, 05:08:20 PM
Just went to post something and ended up not doing it because I just couldn't bring myself to post a serious thread and have it stick in the photo of Jay nodding.  Seems that it grabs either the first or the last profile pic that posted in the thread. 
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Hoss on May 05, 2010, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: custosnox on May 05, 2010, 05:08:20 PM
Just went to post something and ended up not doing it because I just couldn't bring myself to post a serious thread and have it stick in the photo of Jay nodding.  Seems that it grabs either the first or the last profile pic that posted in the thread. 

You should be able to change that, I'd think...it should be able to read all the avatars in the thread.

Hey, what's wrong with my avatar?!?
;D
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Red Arrow on May 05, 2010, 09:04:12 PM
No Facebook here until forced to do so.  I don't remember Facebook's specific terms and permissions but the ones I read from Yahoo, Facebook, etc seem to want too much personal information.  They seem to want the rights to anything I post.  They want the right to SPAM me.  Maybe a few more that I have forgotten.  I'm surprised they didn't ask for my CC number and mother's maiden name.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: sgrizzle on May 05, 2010, 09:08:15 PM
When I clicked on the post link it gave the option of two different seemingly random images or you can click "no thumbnail"
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: custosnox on May 05, 2010, 09:42:25 PM
the one I tried to post there was only one image on it, so didn't have choices of pics.  Guess I didn't see the no thumbnail option.

Red, it's not that bad.  Just email (which you can make one on yahoo for it) and your name are what's required.  You can set privacy so that you don't get SPAM.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Red Arrow on May 05, 2010, 09:57:02 PM
Quote from: custosnox on May 05, 2010, 09:42:25 PM
the one I tried to post there was only one image on it, so didn't have choices of pics.  Guess I didn't see the no thumbnail option.

Red, it's not that bad.  Just email (which you can make one on yahoo for it) and your name are what's required.  You can set privacy so that you don't get SPAM.

I appreciate that but...

One of the clubs I belong to has a forum on Yahoo.  In order to join Yahoo, I would have had to give more info than I thought was required or appropriate or make up some fake info which I am not any good at doing.  It's been about a year or 2 so I don't remember the details.  Before this site had the capability to post pictures, I investigated several places to post pictures.  All of them had provisions or requirements I found unacceptable.   A friend with a server gave me some space on his server while I needed it.

I wonder how many people actually read the terms and conditions to the sites they join.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: custosnox on May 05, 2010, 10:11:41 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on May 05, 2010, 09:57:02 PM
I appreciate that but...

One of the clubs I belong to has a forum on Yahoo.  In order to join Yahoo, I would have had to give more info than I thought was required or appropriate or make up some fake info which I am not any good at doing.  It's been about a year or 2 so I don't remember the details.  Before this site had the capability to post pictures, I investigated several places to post pictures.  All of them had provisions or requirements I found unacceptable.   A friend with a server gave me some space on his server while I needed it.

I wonder how many people actually read the terms and conditions to the sites they join.

Only extra things that yahoo requires beyond name is DOB, country and zip code. 

What exactly is it in their ToS that you have a problem with? Just curious here.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: custosnox on May 05, 2010, 10:27:28 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on May 05, 2010, 09:04:12 PM
  They seem to want the rights to anything I post.
oh, and went back and took another look at the ToS of facebook and this is from it

Quote
You own all of the content and information you post on Facebook, and you can control how it is shared through your privacy and application settings

Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Red Arrow on May 05, 2010, 10:28:01 PM
Quote from: custosnox on May 05, 2010, 10:11:41 PM
Only extra things that yahoo requires beyond name is DOB, country and zip code. 

What exactly is it in their ToS that you have a problem with? Just curious here.

All they "need" is for me to say I'm over a certain age, not my DOB.  What difference does my country and zip make?  They are just collecting database information.   I don't remember the terms and conditions I objected to.  As I said, it's been a year or two.  I realize there are a significant number of people that don't know the meaning of the word privacy.  They would tell you the last time their mother went to the restroom if you asked.  I am not one of those people.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Hoss on May 05, 2010, 10:35:01 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on May 05, 2010, 10:28:01 PM
All they "need" is for me to say I'm over a certain age, not my DOB.  What difference does my country and zip make?  They are just collecting database information.   I don't remember the terms and conditions I objected to.  As I said, it's been a year or two.  I realize there are a significant number of people that don't know the meaning of the word privacy.  They would tell you the last time their mother went to the restroom if you asked.  I am not one of those people.
(http://justgetthere.us/blog/uploads/blackhawk.jpg)
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Red Arrow on May 05, 2010, 10:37:41 PM
Quote from: Hoss on May 05, 2010, 10:35:01 PM
(http://justgetthere.us/blog/uploads/blackhawk.jpg)


That Blackhawk looks more olive drab than black to me.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Hoss on May 05, 2010, 10:38:36 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on May 05, 2010, 10:37:41 PM
That Blackhawk looks more olive drab than black to me.

But you got the point, right?  That's all that matters, Mr. Semantics.

;D
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Red Arrow on May 05, 2010, 10:48:10 PM
Quote from: Hoss on May 05, 2010, 10:38:36 PM
But you got the point, right?  That's all that matters, Mr. Semantics.

;D

Actually, I don't keep up with military helicopters.  The link you used identified it as a Blackhawk, then I figured out what your post was.

I was just going to say I don't really care if anyone agrees with my position on what I tell others or not.  I started this go-around by stating that I don't do Facebook, etc, and all of a sudden people want to know why or criticizes my decision.  Too much information in the information age.... that is all.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Red Arrow on May 05, 2010, 11:08:20 PM
Quote from: Hoss on May 05, 2010, 10:38:36 PM
Mr. Semantics.

I think I've been doing a pretty good job of not correcting grammar and the totally incorrect use of words.  I have made a few corrections lately but not many.  I just read the posts out loud to find out what the post is trying to say.  Even that doesn't always work.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: nathanm on May 05, 2010, 11:45:00 PM
Facebook does play fast and loose with the privacy settings on a regular basis. It's hard to keep it so some random application (or now, website) that you visit doesn't get a free pass into your profile info.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: custosnox on May 06, 2010, 12:14:30 AM
Quote from: nathanm on May 05, 2010, 11:45:00 PM
Facebook does play fast and loose with the privacy settings on a regular basis. It's hard to keep it so some random application (or now, website) that you visit doesn't get a free pass into your profile info.
That's very true.  There are definatly some tricks to keeping all of your info private.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Hoss on May 06, 2010, 12:51:41 AM
Quote from: custosnox on May 06, 2010, 12:14:30 AM
That's very true.  There are definatly some tricks to keeping all of your info private.

Don't use apps is the first one.

I HATE Mafia Wars, Farmville, etc, etc, quid pro quo, blah, blah...
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: custosnox on May 06, 2010, 01:27:24 AM
Quote from: Hoss on May 06, 2010, 12:51:41 AM
Don't use apps is the first one.

I HATE Mafia Wars, Farmville, etc, etc, quid pro quo, blah, blah...

Ha, I'm actually a mod on one of the apps. To be honest, if it wasn't for the apps I would care less about FB.  But there are privacy settings that go beyond the apps that most people don't know about that have come about recently.  Has to do with their "partners".
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: sgrizzle on May 06, 2010, 07:00:34 AM
I think it should be required that everyone must watch the south park facebook episode before signing onto facebook.

I think South Park is "ok" overall but when sometimes they pick a topic a completely nail it. This is one of them.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 08:42:23 AM
Quote from: Hoss on May 06, 2010, 12:51:41 AM
Don't use apps is the first one.

I HATE Mafia Wars, Farmville, etc, etc, quid pro quo, blah, blah...

I finally figured out how to block updates on people's apps and I don't ever click on anything which wants to use all my information or friend's information. 

All that said, I really don't quite understand what the app does at the top left of the forum page.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Hoss on May 06, 2010, 08:43:36 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 08:42:23 AM
I finally figured out how to block updates on people's apps and I don't ever click on anything which wants to use all my information or friend's information. 

Same here.  If it asks me to install an app, I click the big red X in the top right corner.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Townsend on May 06, 2010, 09:19:39 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/facebook-features-privacy/story?id=10502122

New Facebook "features" from ABC news I saw this morning

Edited to add: I've changed all my settings.  I don't post anything that needs to stay secret but I got tired of all the crazies asking to friend me just to build their friend numbers.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 09:49:27 AM
What you mean you didn't friend Paul Tay?

Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Townsend on May 06, 2010, 09:54:36 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 09:49:27 AM
What you mean you didn't friend Paul Tay?



I've read his comments on SGrizzle's...he needs more busy time.

Saw him on the side of the BA Tuesday towing some metal scraps during rush hour.  He needs to care more for the safety of others if not for himself.  (stepping off my small soap box)

Anyway, per the ads on the side of my Facebook, I've got some super hotties searching for me.  Sometimes I regret the security I have because the super hotties can't find me.  Would someone let the super hotties know I wish they could find me?  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 09:57:11 AM
I saw Paul's bike parked outside the downtown library yesterday with that big trailer on the back. He's being a jackass so he can block a full lane of traffic.  How he has kept from being run over so far is totally beyond me.  He advertises on Craigslist offering to build bicycle trailers which will carry up to 1500 pounds. He had one with a clothes washer on it.  I guess it's probably a good thing Paul doesn't appear to own a car...
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: custosnox on May 06, 2010, 10:34:49 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 08:42:23 AM
All that said, I really don't quite understand what the app does at the top left of the forum page.

The forum app just posts the title of the thread with a link to it. 
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: sgrizzle on May 06, 2010, 03:01:37 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on May 06, 2010, 08:42:23 AM
All that said, I really don't quite understand what the app does at the top left of the forum page.

If there is a good discussion going you can post this thread on your facebook page to share it with your friends.
Title: Re: Facebook
Post by: Belle on May 08, 2010, 08:11:04 PM
Five hidden dangers of Facebook (Q&A)

May 8, 2010

Facebook claims that it has 400 million users. But are they well-protected from prying eyes, scammers, and unwanted marketers?

Not according to Joan Goodchild, senior editor of CSO (Chief Security Officer) Online.

She says your privacy may be at far greater risk of being violated than you know, when you log onto the social-networking site, due to security gaffes or marketing efforts by the company.

Facebook came under fire this past week, when 15 privacy and consumer protection organizations filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission, charging that the site, among other things, manipulates privacy settings to make users' personal information available for commercial use. Also, some Facebook users found their private chats accessible to everyone on their contact list--a major security breach that's left a lot of people wondering just how secure the site is.

In two words, asserts Goodchild: not very.

On "The Early Show on Saturday Morning," Goodchild spotlighted five dangers she says Facebook users expose themselves to, probably without being aware of them:


Your information is being shared with third parties
Privacy settings revert to a less safe default mode after each redesign
Facebook ads may contain malware
Your real friends unknowingly make you vulnerable
Scammers are creating fake profiles

Below is an edited transcript of the interview.  (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20004511-83.html)