http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/03/27/will-the-pope-resign-it-wouldnt-be-easy-and-may-not-be-possib/
This is a great read:
http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2010/03/27/the-catholic-church-is-a-criminal-enterprise/
"If you look at it that way, the church's institutional behavior is far worse than is commonly believed. It's not just a matter of an intractable bureaucracy responding too slowly or too insensitively to some scattered accidents of fate. This is more like the situation of a car company that continues selling a cheap but faulty brake system because it has calculated that it stands to make more money selling the cars than it does to lose in lawsuits. The only difference is, a car company can fix the brakes if it wants to. What the Catholic church is selling is by definition faulty. It can't change, or it will be out of business. So even if not changing means kids will be continue to be molested, it doesn't change. "
I've often wondered how so many people are willing to take birth control advice from a celibate old man in a funny hat and shoes that cost more than they'd make in 5 lifetimes.
Man, you are a glutton for it aren't you?
Quote from: waterboy on March 28, 2010, 06:14:30 PM
Man, you are a glutton for it aren't you?
Have you ever noticed though that when one comes out, the other does also (I'm talking the yin and yang here)? When one is quiet, typically the other one is too.
Anyone have an over/under on the number of days before the freak-out?
Quote from: waterboy on March 28, 2010, 06:14:30 PM
Man, you are a glutton for it aren't you?
I had Conan in mind.
Quote from: Hoss on March 28, 2010, 07:01:15 PM
Have you ever noticed though that when one comes out, the other does also (I'm talking the yin and yang here)? When one is quiet, typically the other one is too.
Anyone have an over/under on the number of days before the freak-out?
Is Guido Catholic?
Quote from: fotd on March 28, 2010, 09:26:07 PM
I had Conan in mind.
Missed by a mile on this one. I'm not Catholic, never was, and I don't participate in organized religion anymore.
Your post and articles left me quite flaccid. *YAWN*
Quote from: Conan71 on March 29, 2010, 09:28:02 AM
Missed by a mile on this one. I'm not Catholic, never was, and I don't participate in organized religion anymore.
Your post and articles left me quite flaccid. *YAWN*
He's thinking you are Catholic because of Cascia
Quote from: swake on March 29, 2010, 10:28:25 AM
He's thinking you are Catholic because of Cascia
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't assume he's Jewish because of the whole temple thing...
Quote from: Conan71 on March 29, 2010, 10:30:08 AM
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't assume he's Jewish because of the whole temple thing...
Finally, something truthie from Conan!
Quote from: fotd on March 29, 2010, 11:50:44 AM
Finally, something truthie from Conan!
Truthy, the word is
truthy.
Will the pope resign? No.
Was that article worth my 2 minutes? No. The author thought he was clever but simply stated the obvious in far too many words. The faith is based on the infalability of god, who acts through a chosen messenger - the pope. Ergo, they can't admit he was wrong or god was wrong. Which has never happened (well, except renigging on the whole garden of eden, then having to flood and kill everyone, well... and the whole jewish slavery thing. In egypt/babylon/germany. And I guess he eased up on a lot of the rules). Ok, so he's wrong and changes his amind all the time according to the book. But that was different.
The rigidness of the catholic church is its greatest assest, and its greatest liability.
CF! Sucked ole Sparty right back in!
Flexibility rules over rigidity....kinda like rocks over scissors.
Quote from: cannon_fodder on March 30, 2010, 08:12:59 AM
The rigidness of the catholic church is its greatest assest, and its greatest liability.
I think unwanted rigidness is what's causing the issues with the priests in the first place.
Quote from: Townsend on March 30, 2010, 08:17:56 AM
I think unwanted rigidness is what's causing the issues with the priests in the first place.
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Nice rim-shot, Hoss.
Of course I'm sure that's what a few of the priests were thinking too...
On a serious note, somebody's gonna have to start asking hard questions about the pope and the Vatican higher-ups.
Eventually, some prosecutor somewhere is going to take a look at possible cases of criminal neglect and/or conspiracy of silence and start issuing indictments. And then we're going to have to ask whether the Vatican is harboring fugitives from justice.
Look at the facts: The current pope has been accused of ignoring hundreds of cases of child rape and molestation. This may be the most serious scandal to hit the Catholic Church in centuries.
Quote from: Conan71 on March 30, 2010, 08:42:49 AM
Nice rim-shot, Hoss.
Of course I'm sure that's what a few of the priests were thinking too...
No, I think that would be a rim ....never mind.
;D
Quote from: rwarn17588 on March 30, 2010, 08:47:07 AM
On a serious note, somebody's gonna have to start asking hard questions about the pope and the Vatican higher-ups.
Eventually, some prosecutor somewhere is going to take a look at possible cases of criminal neglect and/or conspiracy of silence and start issuing indictments. And then we're going to have to ask whether the Vatican is harboring fugitives from justice.
Look at the facts: The current pope has been accused of ignoring hundreds of cases of child rape and molestation. This may be the most serious scandal to hit the Catholic Church in centuries.
Should I comment. I'm biting my keyboard tongue...or whatever.
Quote from: rwarn17588 on March 30, 2010, 08:47:07 AM
On a serious note, somebody's gonna have to start asking hard questions about the pope and the Vatican higher-ups.
Eventually, some prosecutor somewhere is going to take a look at possible cases of criminal neglect and/or conspiracy of silence and start issuing indictments. And then we're going to have to ask whether the Vatican is harboring fugitives from justice.
Look at the facts: The current pope has been accused of ignoring hundreds of cases of child rape and molestation. This may be the most serious scandal to hit the Catholic Church in centuries.
My money's on this will slowly sink into the nothingness that is our memory and nothing will come of it.
Naw~ The Pope is picked for life. He has no duty to resign.
Now, here's a real as$fu@ker !!!!! King Henry did right.
Pope's preacher: Abuse critique like anti-Semitism
"It is repulsive, obscene and most of all offensive toward all abuse victims as well as to all the victims of the Holocaust," Kramer said. "So far I haven't seen St. Peter burning, nor were there outbursts of violence against Catholic priests. I'm without words. The Vatican is now trying to turn the perpetrators into victims."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100402/ap_on_re_eu/eu_church_abuse
What ever happend to this Rab-bi-guy........
BB, did some chief Rabbi (?) cover up for this schmoe.
Not apples to apples comparison. Not even a nice try.
Quote from: Conan71 on March 29, 2010, 09:28:02 AM
Missed by a mile on this one. I'm not Catholic, never was, and I don't participate in organized religion anymore.
I'm a practicing non-Catholic.
Quote from: bugo on April 04, 2010, 12:34:53 AM
I'm a practicing non-Catholic.
My religion is beer.
"It is no great accomplishment to hear a voice in the head. The accomplishment is to make sure that it is telling you the truth." –Terrence McKenna
Quote from: Hoss on April 04, 2010, 02:05:17 AM
My religion is beer.
That's a religion I can believe in!
Quote from: bugo on April 04, 2010, 01:17:26 PM
That's a religion I can believe in!
My favorite religious term:
"Habemus hops"...
Richard Dawkins: Arrest The Pope During UK Visit
"Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, two of the world's most prominent atheist intellectuals, are seeking means to try the pope for crimes against humanity, their lawyers confirmed at the weekend.
The pair are said to be working with British lawyers to see if the pope can be arrested for his part in the alleged cover-up of widespread sexual abuse in the Catholic Church, during a visit to the United Kingdom in September
The Vatican has suggested that the pope is immune to prosecution as he is a head of state - Dawkins and Hitchens suggest that he is not immune as the Vatican is not represented at the United Nations.
"I'm convinced we can get over the threshold of immunity," their lawyer Mark Stephens told The Guardian. "The Vatican is not recognized as a state in international law. People assume that it has existed for time immemorial but it was a construct of Mussolini, and when the Vatican first applied to become a member of the UN, the US said no. So as a sop they were given the status of permanent observers rather than full members."
Dawkins, author of The God Delusion, has confirmed he is seeking the pope's arrest, although he later denied reports he was planning to perform the arrest personally.
Last month Dawkins wrote a scathing article for the Washington Post in which he called the pope:
A leering old villain in a frock, who spent decades conspiring behind closed doors for the position he now holds; a man who believes he is infallible and acts the part; a man whose preaching of scientific falsehood is responsible for the deaths of countless AIDS victims in Africa; a man whose first instinct when his priests are caught with their pants down is to cover up the scandal and damn the young victims to silence.
Hitchens told the Sunday Times of London: "This man is not above or outside the law. The institutionalized concealment of child rape is a crime under any law and demands not private ceremonies of repentance or church-funded payoffs, but justice and punishment."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/12/richard-dawkins-arrest-th_n_533837.html
The pope should be arrested. He participated in a conspiracy to cover up child sexual abuse. If you or I did that, we would be arrested and put on trial. Why is the pope any different. He's not.
Quote from: fotd on April 12, 2010, 05:48:55 PM
Richard Dawkins: Arrest The Pope During UK Visit
"Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, two of the world's most prominent atheist intellectuals,
Oxymoron
Though I did love Hitchens comment about how if they gave Jerry Falwell an enema he could have been buried in a matchbook.
Quote from: Conan71 on April 12, 2010, 05:53:56 PM
Oxymoron
Though I did love Hitchens comment about how if they gave Jerry Falwell an enema he could have been buried in a matchbook.
Keep it up CoCo....you're showing your anti intellectual inner self.
or, the crying pope.
Sineah O'Conner caught sh!t for teaching the world in 1992!
Wow....amazing about Ratzinger...not so amazing about the Vatican.
Yeah pope needs to go as do all the priests involed in abuse. What I wonder about is all the abuse still going on now and has not been found out yet. :-[
A bit late to the party but I'll throw kudos to FOTD for calling it. (The resignation thing)
Pope's sudden resignation sends shockwaves through Churchhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/11/us-pope-resigns-idUSBRE91A0BH20130211 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/11/us-pope-resigns-idUSBRE91A0BH20130211)
QuotePope Benedict stunned the Roman Catholic Church on Monday when he announced he would stand down, the first pope to do so in 700 years, saying he no longer had the mental and physical strength to carry on.
Quote from: Townsend on February 14, 2013, 09:49:05 AM
A bit late to the party but I'll throw kudos to FOTD for calling it. (The resignation thing)
Pope's sudden resignation sends shockwaves through Church
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/11/us-pope-resigns-idUSBRE91A0BH20130211 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/11/us-pope-resigns-idUSBRE91A0BH20130211)
I saw the subject of the thread and figured I would come in and see what everyone had to say on it, must have missed it the first time through. Imagine my surprise when I saw that the clown had gotten this one right. Too bad he couldn't take the whole, corrupted organization with him.