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Title: This is why some people shouldn't own guns.
Post by: Hoss on March 11, 2010, 12:26:50 PM
Tragic.  This guy should get the book thrown at him for negligence.  Possibly for manslaughter or worse.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/toddler-dies-mistaking-gun-wii-controller/story?id=10056190
Title: Re: This is why some people shouldn't own guns.
Post by: Conan71 on March 11, 2010, 12:29:39 PM
I've never just walked off and "forgotten" about my gun.

How tragic indeed. 
Title: Re: This is why some people shouldn't own guns.
Post by: nathanm on March 11, 2010, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: Hoss on March 11, 2010, 12:26:50 PM
Tragic.  This guy should get the book thrown at him for negligence.  Possibly for manslaughter or worse.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/toddler-dies-mistaking-gun-wii-controller/story?id=10056190
He's an idiot, but people sometimes forget things. I don't think that should necessarily be criminalized unless a pattern of negligent behavior can be proven.

It annoys me that every time bad smile happens there is this contingent saying someone must be jailed for it.

The guy is still an idiot. I'm sure he's punishing himself enough over the whole thing.
Title: Re: This is why some people shouldn't own guns.
Post by: Conan71 on March 11, 2010, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: nathanm on March 11, 2010, 02:30:41 PM
He's an idiot, but people sometimes forget things. I don't think that should necessarily be criminalized unless a pattern of negligent behavior can be proven.

It annoys me that every time bad smile happens there is this contingent saying someone must be jailed for it.

The guy is still an idiot. I'm sure he's punishing himself enough over the whole thing.

Unfortunately other people's punishment doesn't seem to be a real deterrent to negligence or willful acts.  The guy had a lapse in attention or judgement, but that's zero excuse when it comes to firearms.
Title: Re: This is why some people shouldn't own guns.
Post by: Hoss on March 11, 2010, 04:05:09 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on March 11, 2010, 02:38:38 PM
Unfortunately other people's punishment doesn't seem to be a real deterrent to negligence or willful acts.  The guy had a lapse in attention or judgement, but that's zero excuse when it comes to firearms.

ESPECIALLY when in the reach of children of any age under 14.  In some cases even older than that.
Title: Re: This is why some people shouldn't own guns.
Post by: Townsend on March 12, 2010, 09:15:59 AM
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Title: Re: This is why some people shouldn't own guns.
Post by: rwarn17588 on March 12, 2010, 09:24:29 AM
Quote from: nathanm on March 11, 2010, 02:30:41 PM
He's an idiot, but people sometimes forget things. I don't think that should necessarily be criminalized unless a pattern of negligent behavior can be proven.

It annoys me that every time bad smile happens there is this contingent saying someone must be jailed for it.

The guy is still an idiot. I'm sure he's punishing himself enough over the whole thing.

I'm pro-Second Amendment. But shouldn't a guy lose his guns or his gun license for this? We wouldn't blink an eye if we yanked someone's driver's license for reckless driving.
Title: Re: This is why some people shouldn't own guns.
Post by: Conan71 on March 12, 2010, 10:01:41 AM
Quote from: rwarn17588 on March 12, 2010, 09:24:29 AM
I'm pro-Second Amendment. But shouldn't a guy lose his guns or his gun license for this? We wouldn't blink an eye if we yanked someone's driver's license for reckless driving.

Only if he's charged with a felony
Title: Re: This is why some people shouldn't own guns.
Post by: Townsend on March 12, 2010, 10:26:55 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on March 12, 2010, 10:01:41 AM
Only if he's charged with convicted of a felony

Unless my years of Matlock training has been wrong.
Title: Re: This is why some people shouldn't own guns.
Post by: Conan71 on March 12, 2010, 10:44:19 AM
Quote from: Townsend on March 12, 2010, 10:26:55 AM
Unless my years of Matlock training has been wrong.

I've actually heard of guns being confiscated pending outcome of a trial, I do believe that happened to the pharmacist who capped the punk in OKC.  I seem to recall his attorney turning all his guns over to the care of the court pending the outcome.  No idea how Constitutional that is.  I generally find it best to refrain from doing things which would end up in being charged in the first place.  ;)