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TRaffic has been constrained since Friday because the bridges in this area are literally falling apart. Currently I-44 east and westbound are both one lane and 165th is closed due to falling debris. This area is only being fixed now because the Cherokees threw some resources into it.

I know we're behind on repairs, but are we to far behind?

Where is that "raise gas tax to fix roads and bridges" campaign now?

Quote from: sgrizzle on February 22, 2010, 09:10:27 AM
I know we're behind on repairs, but are we to far behind?

Where is that "raise gas tax to fix roads and bridges" campaign now?

Yes, we are too far behind.

I seem to remember some years ago, not long after I moved to Oklahoma, there was a road/bridge bond issue defeated by the voters. I remember hearing someone explain their no vote by saying that our roads really aren't bad at all, it's just the media in cahoots with the construction companies trying to convince us that our roads are falling apart.

It was then I realized the brand of crazy that prevails around here.

It's one thing to face reality and decide you just don't want to spend the money on road maintenance, regardless of the urgency. It's another thing entirely to ignore your senses as you drive around the state and pretend that bad roads are something made up by the media.

As the pro-tax poster on TulsaNow, I think higher gas taxes make a lot of sense.

The current gasoline taxes are 18.4 cents per gallon nationally plus 16 cents for gasoline and 13 cents for diesel in Oklahoma plus a one cent per gallon to fund an underground storage tank account.

Surrounding state gasoline taxes are (in cents per gallon):

Arkansas 21.5 for gas and 22.5 for diesel
Kansas 24 for gas and 26 for diesel
Louisiana 20 for each
Missouri 17 for each
New Mexico 17 for gas and 18 for diesel plus one cent to fund a "loading fee"
Texas 20 for each

Other noteworthy states...

Wisconsin 32.1 cents for each
Georgia 7.5 cents for each plus 4% sales tax

Quote from: RecycleMichael on February 22, 2010, 04:48:58 PM
As the pro-tax poster on TulsaNow, I think higher gas taxes make a lot of sense.

The current gasoline taxes are 18.4 cents per gallon nationally plus 16 cents for gasoline and 13 cents for diesel in Oklahoma plus a one cent per gallon to fund an underground storage tank account.

How much of the current tax goes to roads?  Oklahoma has a hard earned reputation of using money for things other than promised.  Just look at all the fuss over trying to use things like the art fund for the general operating expenses. (Or something along those lines.)  If we raise the gas tax to fund roads, I have confidence that some money already being spent on roads will be diverted elsewhere.  It's the Oklahoma way.  (Even before Republicans got any control.)

Trying to keep up with the surrounding states taxes is B.S.  If we need to raise ours to provide required/desired services, then we need to do it.  Don't raise taxes just to be the same as selected surrounding states.  Look at the total picture, don't just cherry pick property tax from one state, sales tax from another, income taxes from a third and  gas tax from yet another and so on.

This thread ain't about property and sales tax. It is about holes in the road and how to pay for the fixes. Don't you try to change the topic to other tax burden issues...

Why is the Oklahoma diesel tax 25% lower than any surrounding state? It is to subsidize the trucking industry and to encourage them to take Oklahoma routes while crossing the country.

You want to know why our highways suck? Heavy trucks and dramatically reduced funding to fix the holes they cause ...

Oklahoma is all about moving tax money around from dedicated accounts.  Show me that at least most of the state tax money on gas/diesel is already going to fund road repairs and maybe I'll agree with you.  Show me that surrounding states fully fund their roads with fuel taxes, federal supplements and nothing else and maybe I'll agree we should keep up with the Joneses.

Heavy trucks certainly cause more damage to roads than lighter vehicles.  They also get a lot worse fuel mileage so they pay proportionately more per mile in fuel tax. Through trucks will mostly be on US or Interstate routes which should be getting Federal Funding too. Roads have been subsidized for a long time.  It might be time to change.  It would be a hard sell, especially while trying to sell subsidized public transit. (I would support meaningful public transit.) Or, send all the through traffic somewhere else by instituting high taxes and user fees.  I know that when I am going from point A to point B that I usually only buy gas, food, and depending on the length of the trip, a night at a motel.

Yeppers we could always raise the tax and have those "heavy trucks" fill-up before they cross the State line ::)

Quote from: RecycleMichael on February 22, 2010, 07:41:18 PM
This thread ain't about property and sales tax. It is about holes in the road and how to pay for the fixes. Don't you try to change the topic to other tax burden issues...

Why is the Oklahoma diesel tax 25% lower than any surrounding state? It is to subsidize the trucking industry and to encourage them to take Oklahoma routes while crossing the country.

You want to know why our highways suck? Heavy trucks and dramatically reduced funding to fix the holes they cause ...

Quote from: MDepr2007 on February 22, 2010, 08:23:52 PM
Yeppers we could always raise the tax and have those "heavy trucks" fill-up before they cross the State line ::)

Which border state would that be with a lower diesel tax?  ::)

Unless the plan is to raise the diesel tax more than four cents a gallon, the correct answer is "none of them." Of course, Arkansas' relatively high tax rate compared with its border states didn't deter them from setting theirs where they did. Yet somehow every time I'm in Arkansas I see a good number of trucks fueling. Go figure.

Kansas diesel tax is .26 per RM.  If the goal is to protect our roads, raise the diesel tax to .26 and chase the traffic coming through AR south on I-30 to Texas.  A big problem with that is that I-40 is probably still the shortest route to many places.  I believe the cross-country rigs could cross OK without stopping for fuel.  I also noticed a lot more trucks on US-69 (going through Chouteau/Pryor after the toll was raised on the Will Rogers Turnpike.

I see a lot of trucks with multiple licenses (or maybe I just remember it that way).  What fees does OK impose on the big rigs other than fuel tax?  Compared to other states?

One of use didn't correctly read the post I qouted ....  If we raise it higher so we are not 25% lower than we could be higher if we raise it more than 25%.

Quote from: nathanm on February 22, 2010, 08:29:23 PM
Which border state would that be with a lower diesel tax?  ::)

Unless the plan is to raise the diesel tax more than four cents a gallon, the correct answer is "none of them." Of course, Arkansas' relatively high tax rate compared with its border states didn't deter them from setting theirs where they did. Yet somehow every time I'm in Arkansas I see a good number of trucks fueling. Go figure.

Quote from: nathanm on February 22, 2010, 02:27:48 PM
I seem to remember some years ago, not long after I moved to Oklahoma, there was a road/bridge bond issue defeated by the voters. I remember hearing someone explain their no vote by saying that our roads really aren't bad at all, it's just the media in cahoots with the construction companies trying to convince us that our roads are falling apart.

State Question 723 failed in 2005 because the voters were upset that money that should have been going to maintain roads and bridges all along wasnt -- instead going to every pet project the legislature would allow.
To ask for more money amounted to double-dipping.
If anything, it was an overwhelming call for accountability.

"Oklahoma voters put the brakes on a plan to increase fuel taxes to pay for road and bridge repairs.  An overwhelming 87% of those who voted Tuesday were against SQ 723.  State election officials say it's the biggest defeat for a state question in history, beating a sales tax question in 1952, which was rejected with 86% of the vote.  The head of the group, Oklahomans for Safe Bridges and Roads, which pushed for SQ 723 says the battle might have been lost, but the war is far from being finished.  Former Transportation Secretary Neal McCaleb says he'll take his fight for more funding to the State Legislature."

This thread needs someone on the inside of the trucking industry to reply.

Do truckers really avoid entire states or strategically fuel before and after driving through a state because of a less than 10 cents per gallon tax burden?  I would wager a guess that no one really gives a damn.

http://gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx

There is, at most, a 10 cent difference between OK and surrounding states (excluding 4 random counties NOT along I-40 or I-44)

So who gives a damn?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_gas_does_an_eighteen_wheeler_gas_tank_hold.

Big rigs hold 200 to 400 gallons of fuel.  At an average of 300 gallons, 10 cents difference is 30 dollars.

It would operationally cost more for an arbitrary stop than it would save over a 30 dollar differential per gas tank.  Do truckers really care?  My guess is no.

I encourage any real truckers to post a reply with more legit info than my own however.

Even at 5 mpg, 200 gallons is 1000 miles.  That would let a driver do some fuel stop planning.  Of course, tax is not the only cost of fuel.

Quote from: YoungTulsan on February 23, 2010, 04:13:34 AM
This thread needs someone on the inside of the trucking industry to reply.

Do truckers really avoid entire states or strategically fuel before and after driving through a state because of a less than 10 cents per gallon tax burden?  I would wager a guess that no one really gives a damn.


It would operationally cost more for an arbitrary stop than it would save over a 30 dollar differential per gas tank.  Do truckers really care?  My guess is no.

I encourage any real truckers to post a reply with more legit info than my own however.

I'm don't drive, however half my family does.  Truckers will not avoid an entire state, but if there is a price difference from one to another they might try to avoid refueling until they get through the state, if the next state beyond is lower.  When you run as much fuel as truckers do, every penny starts to add up.  While they won't set there and plan out the entire trip just to avoid refueling in a state, it will come to mind before they cross the border and could decide to refuel if time allows before going over to the high side.

Quote from: custosnox on February 23, 2010, 11:44:53 AM
I'm don't drive, however half my family does.  Truckers will not avoid an entire state, but if there is a price difference from one to another they might try to avoid refueling until they get through the state, if the next state beyond is lower.  When you run as much fuel as truckers do, every penny starts to add up.  While they won't set there and plan out the entire trip just to avoid refueling in a state, it will come to mind before they cross the border and could decide to refuel if time allows before going over to the high side.

I stand corrected.  They will avoid an entire state depending on fuel price and tax.  Something I just learn as well is that the price you see at the pump does not reflect total cost of tax in a state.  the Interstate Fuel Tax Agreement (IFTA) is where a lot of the fuel tax lays, and taxes are not supposed to be reflected at the pump.  What IFTA is is a tax that a trucker has to pay for every mile driven in a state.  At the end of the month/quarter the drivers have to sit down with their logs and figure out how many miles where driven in a state and pay the taxes on that.  It becomes a balancing issue all the way around at this point.  They may choose to refuel before going into a state because the previous state has a lower fuel price, and drive straight through because it has a low IFTA tax.  Now, in addition to this, every truck, in August, has to pay the Federal Heavy Vehicle Use Tax (FHUT) of $555.  The FHUT is a federal tax that is to be used for rebuilding bridges and roads used by these trucks. 

I was also told to include in these figures that since trucks have a 200 gallon tank that if fuel prices are raised by just $.01 then the over all cost on refueling for a truck increases by $20 per tank.  I'll take this thought just a bit further and say that this cost ends up being defrayed back to the consumer.  When transport prices increase, it is generally reflected by the cost of goods also increasing.  And it's not a matter of greedy corporations trying to line their pockets.  A lot of OTR drivers out there are Owner/Operators that have to pay their own fuel prices, and with freight being down, every little bit makes it harder and harder for trucks to stay on the road.  I come from a family of drivers, but currently only one has managed to stay OTR, and even that has been rough.

When I was driving a few years ago (OTR) there was a fair number who would actively find routes around Oklahoma to avoid the turnpikes.  They make it as expensive as possible, and don't even bother to get with the national pike pass program to make a trucker's life easier, if not less costly.

Turnpikes - another great point to start a grumble session...

Road repairs - I-40 in OKC was going through this same bridge failure scenario the last 3 years.  About every week or two, a large chunk would drop out of the deck onto the ground below.  This was constant through 2007, 2008 and most of 2009.  Seems to have slowed in last 4 months or so.

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on February 23, 2010, 01:19:39 PM
When I was driving a few years ago (OTR) there was a fair number who would actively find routes around Oklahoma to avoid the turnpikes.  They make it as expensive as possible, and don't even bother to get with the national pike pass program to make a trucker's life easier, if not less costly.

Turnpikes - another great point to start a grumble session...

Road repairs - I-40 in OKC was going through this same bridge failure scenario the last 3 years.  About every week or two, a large chunk would drop out of the deck onto the ground below.  This was constant through 2007, 2008 and most of 2009.  Seems to have slowed in last 4 months or so.

There is no national pikepass system, and at one time, pikepass was the largest in the US. Some states in the northeast are moving to compatible systems but they were very late in the game to widely adopt electronic toll payment. However, no state in this area is compatible with the northeast system.

Quote from: sgrizzle on February 23, 2010, 02:30:43 PM
There is no national pikepass system, and at one time, pikepass was the largest in the US. Some states in the northeast are moving to compatible systems but they were very late in the game to widely adopt electronic toll payment. However, no state in this area is compatible with the northeast system.

E-ZPass (http://"http://www.ezpass.com/static/info/facilities.shtml") works from Virginia north to Maine, plus Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, and West Virginia, and including New York City's bridges and tunnels.

Quote from: sgrizzle on February 23, 2010, 02:30:43 PM
There is no national pikepass system, and at one time, pikepass was the largest in the US. Some states in the northeast are moving to compatible systems but they were very late in the game to widely adopt electronic toll payment. However, no state in this area is compatible with the northeast system.

Are moving? Try "moved on it mostly a decade ago," although more and more states are joining. Florida finally got on the stick and made SunPass and E-Pass interoperable back in 2002 or 2003.

EZ-Pass works in something like 13 states, as far west as Illinois. We use compatible tags, too.

With a lot of places moving to the new RFID window tags, we ought to be able to get some interoperability going on.

I'd love to see interoperability with K-Tag in Kansas, and E-Pass and SunPass in Florida. I don't know about K-Tag, but I know the transponders we have are compatible with E-Pass and SunPass. Speaking of which, next time I'm in Florida I have got to remember to get one of the new SunPass boxes. They're only $5. Either that or I need to find my SO's E-Pass she still has around here somewhere.

I only drive on toll roads in the northeast once or twice a decade, so going out of my way to get an EZ-Pass compatible tag wouldn't really be worth it, although it would be nice.

Quote from: nathanm on February 23, 2010, 03:44:00 PM
Are moving? Try "moved on it mostly a decade ago," although more and more states are joining. Florida finally got on the stick and made SunPass and E-Pass interoperable back in 2002 or 2003.

EZ-Pass works in something like 13 states, as far west as Illinois. We use compatible tags, too.

With a lot of places moving to the new RFID window tags, we ought to be able to get some interoperability going on.

I'd love to see interoperability with K-Tag in Kansas, and E-Pass and SunPass in Florida. I don't know about K-Tag, but I know the transponders we have are compatible with E-Pass and SunPass. Speaking of which, next time I'm in Florida I have got to remember to get one of the new SunPass boxes. They're only $5. Either that or I need to find my SO's E-Pass she still has around here somewhere.

I only drive on toll roads in the northeast once or twice a decade, so going out of my way to get an EZ-Pass compatible tag wouldn't really be worth it, although it would be nice.

The Turnpike Authority announced last September that the RFID transponders (white boxes) are being phased out, and that they will either use stickers or just tag readers.

Quote from: patric on February 23, 2010, 04:43:29 PM
The Turnpike Authority announced last September that the RFID transponders (white boxes) are being phased out, and that they will either use stickers or just tag readers.

Hopefully the stickers will be cheaper, as I have more cars than I have PikePasses.

I'll be completely screwed when driving rentals if they go to the sticker-only system. I hate stopping to pay tolls. It seems like there's always a line and nobody ever has their money ready, so it takes forever.

Quote from: sgrizzle on February 22, 2010, 09:10:27 AM
TRaffic has been constrained since Friday because the bridges in this area are literally falling apart. Currently I-44 east and westbound are both one lane and 165th is closed due to falling debris. This area is only being fixed now because the Cherokees threw some resources into it.

I know we're behind on repairs, but are we to far behind?

Where is that "raise gas tax to fix roads and bridges" campaign now?

Consider the chunks of concrete as "indicators" like they put in frozen turkeys.  When they pop up, it's time to fix them.  It's just how we do things round here.

I hope OTA keeps a way to separate when a vehicle has a trailer or not.  I have a 3 axle Pike Pass for when I am towing a trailer.

EZ Pass is what I couldn't remember earlier - it is an excellent system and has been for years.  Northeast only.

And don't expect OTA to EVER become smart enough to get on that wagon.  This sticker idea will likely be just another bumfuzzle POS that will set us back even further.

And why do we even HAVE an OTA at this point?  Oh, yeah, political patronage, cronyism, "favors", etc.

And paybacks for unruly taxpayers.

Remember how Creek turnpike was to be free road and all the idiots along 96th street protested a road of any kind?  Even though they have known since the '60s that it was going to be there?  Decades before they built their cute little yuppy McMansions.  Or were even born in some cases...

So, to get around those idiot yuppies, ODOT just turned it over to OTA and voila... a year later, the road is built and running and charging a fee.  Brilliant strategy.  How's THAT working out for ya'??  (Rhetorical question)

Quote from: MichaelBates on February 23, 2010, 03:40:46 PM
E-ZPass (http://"http://www.ezpass.com/static/info/facilities.shtml") works from Virginia north to Maine, plus Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, and West Virginia, and including New York City's bridges and tunnels.

"Used in multiple states" is not the same as "national"

Here is a list which shows the tax on diesel per state that this fuel station is located.
Sorry it's not clearer but it's still readable to most I beleive.
First is  the State then City then IFTA tax per gallon then the listed price on the sign as of 2-24-2010.

2/24/2010          Cost Plus (+) & Retail Minus (-) Better of Price by Location Report                                     Retail prices are subject to change at any time. Program discounts are based on doing paperless transactions.                                                                          State   City   IFTA Tax   Posted Cash Retail Price   Cost (+) Discount   Retail (-) Discount   Cost (+) Price   Retail (-) Price   Cheapest Price (Your Price)   Better Price W/O Tax   True Cost Plus   Best Price of Cost Plus Vs. Retail Minus   SITE AL   BIRMINGHAM   $.1900   $2.8490                           0500091 AL   DOTHAN   $.1900   $2.7690                           0500150 AL   HOPE HULL   $.1900   $2.8590                           0500143 AL   MCCALLA   $.1900   $2.8590                           0500042 AR   RUSSELLVILLE   $.2250   $2.8790                           0500038 AR   TEXARKANA   $.2250   $2.8390                           0500021 AR   WEST MEMPHIS   $.2250   $2.8790                           0500333 AZ   EHRENBERG   $.2600   $2.9190                           0500250 AZ   ELOY   $.2600   $2.8390                           500310 AZ   KINGMAN   $.2600   $2.8790                           0500050 AZ   PHOENIX   $.2600   $2.8090                           0500006 AZ   WINSLOW   $.2600   $2.9590                           0500041 AZ   YUMA   $.2600   $2.8990                           4220301 CA   BAKERSFIELD   $.3730   $2.9590                           0500320 CA   BARSTOW   $.3730   $3.0590                           0500090 CA   CORNING   $.3730   $3.0790                           0500154 CA   LEBEC   $.3730   $3.0090                           0500055 CA   LODI   $.3730   $3.0790                           0500079 CA   RIPON   $.3730   $2.9390                           0500075 CA   THOUSAND PALMS   $.3730   $3.0490                           0520020 CO   AURORA   $.2050   $2.8190                           0500061 CO   JULESBURG   $.2050   $2.8190                           0500014 CO   LIMON   $.2050   $2.7790                           0500211 FL   DADE CITY   $.3167   $3.0390                           0500037 FL   FORT PIERCE   $.3167   $3.0590                           0500063 FL   MIDWAY   $.3167   $2.9590                           0500054 FL   SEFFNER   $.3167   $2.9590                           0500081 FL   ST AUGUSTINE   $.3167   $2.8690                           0500117 GA   BRUNSWICK   $.1330   $2.8390                           0500057 GA   CARNESVILLE   $.1330   $2.8390                           0500096 GA   COMMERCE   $.1330   $2.8490                           0500169 GA   JACKSON   $.1330   $2.8390                           0500280 GA   LAKE PARK   $.1330   $2.8190                           0500044 GA   RESACA   $.1330   $2.8790                           0500470 GA   TEMPLE   $.1330   $2.8390                           0500045 GA   UNION POINT   $.1330   $2.8390                           0500147 IA   CLIVE   $.2250   $2.7990                           0500314 IA   DAVENPORT   $.2250   $2.8590                           0500071 IA   Waterloo   $.2250   $2.9190                           0500088 ID   BLACKFOOT   $.2500   $2.8690                           0520182 ID   BOISE   $.2500   $2.9390                           0011380 ID   BOISE   $.2500   $2.9390                           0520380 ID   CALDWELL   $.2500   $2.8190                           0500002 ID   JEROME   $.2500   $2.8790                           0500116 ID   LEWISTON   $.2500   $2.9190                           0520385 ID   MCCAMMON   $.2500   $2.8790                           0500223 ID   POST FALLS   $.2500   $3.0390                           0500005 IL   ALORTON   $.3500   $2.9790                           0500145 IL   EFFINGHAM   $.3500   $2.9490                           0500107 IL   LASALLE   $.3500   $2.8790                           0500076 IL   PONTOON BEACH   $.3500   $2.9790                           0500070 IL   SOUTH BELOIT   $.3500   $2.9590                           0500097 IN   GARY   $.1600   $2.8190                           0500024 IN   HAUBSTADT   $.1600   $2.8790                           0500098 IN   INDIANAPOLIS   $.1600   $2.7190                           0500440 IN   LAKE STATION   $.1600   $2.8190                           0500085 IN   LEBANON   $.1600   $2.8290                           0500069 IN   LOWELL   $.1600   $2.8190                           0500119 IN   SPICELAND   $.1600   $2.7990                           0500111 IN   WHITELAND   $.1600   $2.6990                           0500087 KS   DODGE CITY   $.2600   $2.7890                           0500160 KS   Emporia   $.2600   $2.7290                           0500083 KS   SALINA   $.2600   $2.7090                           0500043 KY   CATLETTSBURG   $.1970   $2.8090                           0500118 KY   FRANKLIN   $.1970   $2.8090                           0500053 KY   OAK GROVE   $.1970   $2.7690                           0500058 KY   WADDY   $.1970   $2.8790                           0500036 KY   WALTON   $.1970   $2.7790                           0500400 LA   GREENWOOD   $.2000   $2.8690                           0500048 MI   BENTON HARBOR   $.2960   $2.8290                           0500121 MI   LANSING   $.2960   $2.8090                           0500126 MI   SAGINAW   $.2960   $2.9390                           0500170 MO   JOPLIN   $.1700   $2.6090                           0500080 MO   KANSAS CITY   $.1700   $2.6590                           0520086 MO   MATTHEWS   $.1700   $2.8390                           0500074 MO   PECULIAR   $.1700   $2.6790                           0500082 MO   SULLIVAN   $.1700   $2.6790                           0500047 MO   WARRENTON   $.1700   $2.6390                           0500016 MO   WAYLAND   $.1700   $2.6990                           0500084 MS   GULFPORT   $.1800   $2.7790                           0500065 MS   OLIVE BRANCH   $.1800   $2.8590                           0500095 MS   PEARL   $.1800   $2.8190                           0500072 MT   BILLINGS   $.2775   $2.8390                           0500490 MT   BUTTE   $.2775   $2.8590                           0500130 MT   GREAT FALLS   $.2775   $2.8390                           0500203 NC   HAW RIVER   $.3030   $2.8990                           0500332 NC   KENLY   $.3030   $2.8590                           0500148 ND   BEACH   $.2300   $2.8590                           0500004 ND   FARGO   $.2300   $2.8290                           0500009 NE   GRETNA   $.2640   $2.7790                           0500012 NE   NORTH PLATTE   $.2640   $2.7590                           0500059 NJ   CARNEYS POINT   $.1750   $2.8590                           0500067 NM   ALBUQUERQUE   $.2100   $2.7690                           0500032 NM   LORDSBURG   $.2100   $2.8790                           0500129 NM   TUCUMCARI   $.2100   $2.7690                           0500176 NV   WELLS   $.2700   $2.8190                           0520102 NV   WELLS   $.2700   $2.8190                           0500068 NV   WINNEMUCCA   $.2700   $2.7990                           0520025 NY   BUFFALO   $.3935   $3.0590                           0500049 OH   AUSTINBURG             $.2800   $2.9990                           0500066 OH   BEAVER DAM   $.2800   $2.8490                           0500039 OH   HUBBARD   $.2800   $2.8390                           0500112 OH   JEFFERSONVILLE   $.2800   $2.8990                           0500046 OH   MILLERSPORT   $.2800   $2.8190                           0500030 OH   PERRYSBURG   $.2800   $2.9190                           0500450 OH   SUNBURY   $.2800   $2.9790                           0500028 OK   ARDMORE   $.1300   $2.6790                           0500163 OK   CHECOTAH   $.1300   $2.6890                           0500052 OK   OKLAHOMA CITY   $.1300   $2.6790                           0500027 OK   OKLAHOMA CITY   $.1300   $2.6990                           0500056 OK   SAYRE   $.1300   $2.7190                           0500093 OK   TULSA   $.1300   $2.6690                           0500008 OR   TROUTDALE   $0.0000   $2.6790                           0520019 PA   BROOKVILLE   $.3810   $3.0390                           0500092 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Oklahoma should raise its tax on diesel fuel to $.40/gal for two the following reasons.

1.  So we can finally be a leader in something and not be at the bottom of the heap.

2.  I hate being next to a diesel when in traffic.

Quote from: Red Arrow on February 24, 2010, 06:07:37 PM
Oklahoma should raise its tax on diesel fuel to $.40/gal for two reasons.

1.  So we can finally be a leader in something and not be at the bottom of the heap.

2.  I hate being next to a diesel when in traffic.

3. Because we love to pay those high transport costs at the register when we buy groceries.