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Title: 35?
Post by: Red Arrow on December 15, 2009, 12:25:50 PM
Did the City of Tulsa get a bargain on "Speed Limit 35" signs?  They are popping up all over the southern edge of Tulsa. There is some roadwork going on but these are regular white speed limit signs, preceded by "Reduced Speed Ahead" signs, not the orange temporary ones.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: sgrizzle on December 15, 2009, 12:51:34 PM
This time of year it's pretty hard to drive faster than 25 in South Tulsa.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Red Arrow on December 15, 2009, 12:57:47 PM
Depends on the time of day along 121st and 111th. 
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: FOTD on December 15, 2009, 02:54:57 PM
New mayor....new fundraising....just a hunch.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 15, 2009, 03:57:57 PM
35 seems fast enough for a regular city street to me.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: buckeye on December 15, 2009, 04:00:26 PM
Arterials or side streets?

40 is a decent limit for an arterial.  Figure 10 over is a common speed and you can actually get places.  Yale?  Harvard?  Lewis?  Yup.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Red Arrow on December 15, 2009, 04:46:55 PM
I would consider 121st, 111th, and a bit of Yale near 111th to be arterials.  Most of the housing also has community entrances from the arterials so there aren't many, if any, individual driveways. 

I have always considered posting the limit at 10 under reasonable speed to be BS.  I don't want a ticket so I go the limit or slightly less. I don't want to get run over. Except for revenue generation, the 85% rule seems to work.  Post the limit at what 85% of the drivers go. (Excluding the "rush hour")

35 along 21st west of Utica seems reasonable.  I don't know what the city is doing down south.  When the traffic backs up at the stop signs, you can't go anywhere anyway so the speed limit is meaningless during times it would have a reason to be low.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Ed W on December 15, 2009, 05:04:44 PM
Reduce the speed limit city wide to 25mph, and we could all drive golf carts!
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Red Arrow on December 15, 2009, 05:25:47 PM
Quote from: Ed W on December 15, 2009, 05:04:44 PM
Reduce the speed limit city wide to 25mph, and we could all drive golf carts!

Reduce it to 3 or 4 mph and we could all walk.  Just think, no smelly cars, trucks, buses etc.  Speeding ticket revenue could be obtained from speed demon bicyclists.  The only negative I can think of is that no one would put up with it and Tulsa would become a ghost town.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Conan71 on December 15, 2009, 10:39:28 PM
Quote from: Ed W on December 15, 2009, 05:04:44 PM
Reduce the speed limit city wide to 25mph, and we could all drive golf carts!

I can flat-land it at 25 MPH with an HR of 183 for an hour, 30 MPH if I'm in the mood to show off for about 2 or 3 minutes then bonk.  I'm in!   ;)
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Red Arrow on December 15, 2009, 11:19:44 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on December 15, 2009, 10:39:28 PM
I can flat-land it at 25 MPH with an HR of 183 for an hour, 30 MPH if I'm in the mood to show off for about 2 or 3 minutes then bonk.  I'm in!   ;)

Need a tailwind?
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Conan71 on December 16, 2009, 01:35:37 AM
Quote from: Red Arrow on December 15, 2009, 11:19:44 PM
Need a tailwind?

Tailwinds always appreciated.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: sgrizzle on December 16, 2009, 07:30:37 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on December 16, 2009, 01:35:37 AM
Tailwinds always appreciated.

Eat at El Guapos.. instant tailwind.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Red Arrow on December 16, 2009, 08:07:01 AM
Quote from: sgrizzle on December 16, 2009, 07:30:37 AM
Eat at El Guapos.. instant tailwind.

More like jet propulsion.   Also creates a desire for a temporary headwind.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Johnboy976 on December 16, 2009, 08:26:50 AM
Did anyone ever take Riverside from 101st until it ran into Sheridan (by that point I think it's called River Rd.), going 70+, back in the day?
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Red Arrow on December 16, 2009, 08:37:12 AM
Quote from: Johnboy976 on December 16, 2009, 08:26:50 AM
Did anyone ever take Riverside from 101st until it ran into Sheridan (by that point I think it's called River Rd.), going 70+, back in the day?

No, but the corner as Riverside/Delaware turns into 121st was fine at 50, unless you were a complete dufus.  Didn't even have to go into the opposing traffic lane. (Weather etc permitting.)  The road surface is also a limiting factor now.  Too many potholes and patches.

I call it River Rd too but don't know if it was ever a official name.  I have seen signs labeling it Delaware.  I believe "Riverside" ends at the Jenks bridge.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Townsend on December 16, 2009, 09:44:07 AM
Yale heading South toward 121st has a "reduced speed ahead" sign just before a 35 MPH sign.

The 35 MPH sign is hidden by a "Stop ahead" sign.

As you read the "stop ahead" sign then the 35 MPH sign, you're braking to stop.  The reduced speed sign and 35 MPH sign are zany.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Conan71 on December 16, 2009, 09:59:33 AM
Quote from: Johnboy976 on December 16, 2009, 08:26:50 AM
Did anyone ever take Riverside from 101st until it ran into Sheridan (by that point I think it's called River Rd.), going 70+, back in the day?

Oh yeah, many times.  Probably more than dumb luck I didn't get wrapped around a tree.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Johnboy976 on December 16, 2009, 10:22:35 AM
Traditionally I would go 55 in that area, but my brother was of a different sort. He always tested out his new car(s) around there with 80 mph being his cruising speed, it seemed like. Evidently I-44 to OKC wasn't good enough.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: buckeye on December 16, 2009, 11:23:49 AM
Quote from: Johnboy976 on December 16, 2009, 08:26:50 AM
Did anyone ever take Riverside from 101st until it ran into Sheridan (by that point I think it's called River Rd.), going 70+, back in the day?
Ahem.  What?

I remember when 111th street was the middle of nowhere, lo these many (8) years ago.  Used to be fun to drive down there, not anymore.  Traffic down south really is a pain in the butt.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: dbacks fan on December 16, 2009, 01:32:14 PM
Quote from: Johnboy976 on December 16, 2009, 08:26:50 AM
Did anyone ever take Riverside from 101st until it ran into Sheridan (by that point I think it's called River Rd.), going 70+, back in the day?

Yes, back in the early 80's (82,83,84) several of my friends and I used to see who could get the quickest run down that stretch. At that time the starting point was just south of the Jenks Bridge (Riverside Drive ended at 61st) and the end was 121st and Sheridan at the stop sign. At the time I had a TR6, a TR7 and a modified Jensen Healey and would easily be doing 100+ before taking the turn onto 121st. I think about 70mph was the fastest I took the turn.

Some one mentioned doing the Tulsa to OKC run on the turnpike. A couple of times I made it in roughly and hour. Always loved the look on the face of the attenant when they stamped thee time on the card to hand back.
Title: Re: 35?
Post by: Conan71 on December 16, 2009, 01:48:47 PM
Quote from: dbacks fan on December 16, 2009, 01:32:14 PM
Yes, back in the early 80's (82,83,84) several of my friends and I used to see who could get the quickest run down that stretch. At that time the starting point was just south of the Jenks Bridge (Riverside Drive ended at 61st) and the end was 121st and Sheridan at the stop sign. At the time I had a TR6, a TR7 and a modified Jensen Healey and would easily be doing 100+ before taking the turn onto 121st. I think about 70mph was the fastest I took the turn.

Some one mentioned doing the Tulsa to OKC run on the turnpike. A couple of times I made it in roughly and hour. Always loved the look on the face of the attenant when they stamped thee time on the card to hand back.

I'm surprised the OHP has never resorted to using time stamps on the Turnpike or port-to-port on Pike Passes to issue tickets.