Congrats to OKC for ranking #1 among large metro areas for small business startups. Awesome work. Also, patting ourselves on the back, Tulsa ranked #19 among mid-sized metro areas.
http://money.cnn.com/smallbusiness/best_places_launch/2009/states/OK.html
Quote from: TURobY on October 13, 2009, 11:29:15 AM
Congrats to OKC for ranking #1 among large metro areas for small business startups. Awesome work. Also, patting ourselves on the back, Tulsa ranked #19 among mid-sized metro areas.
http://money.cnn.com/smallbusiness/best_places_launch/2009/states/OK.html
Let's see who the first person is to interpret this as bad news...any nominations?
Quote from: Conan71 on October 13, 2009, 11:54:54 AM
Let's see who the first person is to interpret this as bad news...any nominations?
FOTD in 3..... 2..... 1.........
And then Kraut will tell us about job conditions in Omaha and jogging trails in Dallas
Quote from: swake on October 13, 2009, 12:27:26 PM
And then Kraut will tell us about job conditions in Omaha and jogging trails in Dallas
But we may not see him post for three or four days until he gets his public library computer access restored.
Quote from: swake on October 13, 2009, 12:27:26 PM
And then Kraut will tell us about job conditions in Omaha and jogging trails in Dallas
Also he will talk about the bargin price homes in the Detroit area where he grew up.
Quote from: dbacks fan on October 13, 2009, 12:35:22 PM
Also he will talk about the bargin price homes in the Detroit area where he grew up.
Great prices for retirement homes!! Who goes to Detroit to retire??
I think you guys inadvertantly pooped on the thread by talking about the people who would poop on the thread.
Quote from: Townsend on October 13, 2009, 12:47:50 PM
I think you guys inadvertantly pooped on the thread by talking about the people who would poop on the thread.
Party pooper
Quote from: dbacks fan on October 13, 2009, 12:35:22 PM
Also he will talk about the bargin price homes in the Detroit area where he grew up.
Too late! See the 11:00 post on the Central Park condos
I'm actually shocked no one's whined about being considered a 'mid-sized metro area', while OKC is considered a 'large metro area'.
Quote from: PepePeru on October 13, 2009, 01:40:37 PM
I'm actually shocked no one's whined about being considered a 'mid-sized metro area', while OKC is considered a 'large metro area'.
It looks like 1-million metro is what makes the difference between mid-sized and large. You'll notice that we are quite a bit larger than any of the other cities in the mid-sized range.
Quote from: TURobY on October 13, 2009, 02:02:40 PM
It looks like 1-million metro is what makes the difference between mid-sized and large. You'll notice that we are quite a bit larger than any of the other cities in the mid-sized range.
That is correct. We need to get over 1 million, which we should do in the next 5 years.
Quote from: SXSW on October 13, 2009, 04:25:17 PM
That is correct. We need to get over 1 million, which we should do in the next 5 15 years.
As Phil Hartman once said "I've got chunks of guys like you in my stool", CoCo and Dbackedup.
Well, he didn't disparage it, but he added nothing constructive nor positive, so pretty close to a win, Dback.
Quote from: Conan71 on October 13, 2009, 04:35:05 PM
Well, he didn't disparage it, but he added nothing constructive nor positive, so pretty close to a win, Dback.
After our season, that works for me. ;D
At the risk of dragging this thread back on-topic:
To me, this is good news and disappointing at the same time. Tulsa needs to do better than 19th in the mid-sized market. If you look around time many of our best companies are small-business startups of old:
BOK
OneOK
Helmrich and Payne
Williams Companies
Quick Trip
Nurturing small business not only encourages entrepreneurs to stay in your town, but it can lead to big business down the road.
What I never get is why Oklahoma City consistently ranks ahead of Tulsa on many of these lists . . . but you never hear of Tulsa looking down the turnpike and asking "what are they doing better." I don't want to copy OKC by any means - but the indication is that they cater to small business better. Let's find out how OKC does it and other communities and get ahead in the game (not commenting on the merit of the study, which very well may prove to be on a basis that isn't worthy of any sort of action).
And at the risk of pooping on the thread, I admit to being disappointed that we are behind:
1 Huntsville, AL 395,645 8,995
2 Lafayette, LA 259,073 8,113
3 Omaha, NE 837,925 20,990
4 Clarksville, TN 261,220 4,136
5 Peoria, IL 372,487 8,520
6 Lexington, KY 453,424 11,248
7 Killeen, TX 378,935 5,574
8 Des Moines, IA 556,230 14,174
9 Baton Rouge, LA 774,327 16,860
10 Lincoln, NE 295,486 7,821
11 Jackson, MS 537,285 12,409
12 Lubbock, TX 270,610 6,571
13 Fayetteville, AR 443,976 5,856
14 Wilmington, NC 347,012 10,242
15 Durham, NC 489,762 11,007
16 McAllen, TX 726,604 10,028
17 El Paso, TX 742,062 12,488
18 Wichita, KS 603,716 14,091
They ranked the top 50, 10 from cities over a million, 20 from cities from 250,000 to a million and 20 from cities with less than 250,000 people.
So, we are in the top 50 out of 363 metro areas. That's the top 15%, that's good. Look at the criteria for the survey and Oklahoma City's numbers are helped by having a decent economy. That's largely because to this point they have been shielded from the recession by their economy being so centered on government. With state revenues off 30% that asset is about to become a huge liability.
Quote from: Conan71 on October 13, 2009, 04:35:05 PM
Well, he didn't disparage it, but he added nothing constructive nor positive, so pretty close to a win, Dback.
The article is crap, no criteria and little support for what they did to arrive at these results. It's put out by Fortune magazine under a small business division further evidence of self service. How much did our chamber put up to get on their list? It talks about state subsidized corporate welfare for InterGenetics in OKChity..."the biggest challenge is the prejudice of outsiders, who may think of Oklahoma City as some kind of tumbleweed town..." . NO!?OMG. You think so???
In the Tulsa category, those listed above Tulsa are more mediocre than medium cities.
Whew. There. You got it outa me.