Jack in the Box returning to Tulsa area
By ROBERT EVATT World Staff Writer
10/5/2009
After an absence of nearly three decades, fast-food chain Jack in the Box is returning to the Tulsa area. The San Diego-based company recently purchased land near Kenosha Street and Aspen Avenue in Broken Arrow for $610,000 with the intent to build a restaurant, said company spokesman Brian Luscomb.
"We're looking forward to serving up sirloin burgers and fruit smoothies in the first half of 2010," he said.
The chain is looking for other locations in the metro area, Luscomb said. The Broken Arrow real estate deal was the first to come through. Luscomb said the chain once operated multiple stores in Tulsa but closed them all by 1982.
"In the 1970s, the company underwent a major expansion to penetrate the Eastern and Midwestern markets, but the company subsequently closed or sold those to concentrate our resources in the Western and Southwestern U.S., which at that time offered the greatest growth potential," he said.
The company, now in growth mode, is building stores in areas such as Albuquerque, N.M.; Joplin, Mo.; and Denver.Jack in the Box opened three stores in southern Oklahoma — one each in Ada, Ardmore and Durant — earlier this decade.
The chain is perhaps best known for its fictional CEO and spokesman Jack, a clown-headed man in a business suit who was blown up in company advertisements in 1980 but returned in 1996 thanks to "the miracle of plastic surgery."
There's something about those tacos at that place.
Crack in the Box?
Back in the Jocks?
Yep, because what they need at that intersection is another restaurant/fast food place. As if they don't already have a Carls Jr/McAllister's/some chinese food place and Lord knows what else down there.
I am a fan of Jack in the Box restaurants. They have a varied, inexpensive and fast menu.
I travel too much and am always in a hurry and their breakfast fare is the best of the fast food circuit. They make a chorizo sausage breakfast that really stands out and the meaty breakfast burrito is enough for anybody. The breakfast bowl is a ham, cheese, and hash brown omelette with just the right amount of peppers
They have a decent one dollar burger and you can get two tacos for a buck as well. The breakfast dollar sandwich is ham, egg and cheese on a small hamburger bun. It is way better than a dollar breakfast sandwich at any of their competitors.
It is impossible to be fast, cheap and great at the same time. Jack in the Box food is two of them.
I support development.
This is another fast food restaurant though. We have so many and our state isn't the healthiest.
I've seen worse scores than this but always keep in mind, it is a fast food restaurant with the nutrition that goes along with it.
http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutrition-calories/food/jack-in-the-box (http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutrition-calories/food/jack-in-the-box)
I'm not saying I'm without sin but I'm for nutritional knowledge and think Oklahoma should copy New York's example and have restaurants post nutritional information.
Quote from: Townsend on October 06, 2009, 09:04:28 AM
I'm not saying I'm without sin but I'm for nutritional knowledge and think Oklahoma should copy New York's example and have restaurants post nutritional information.
KEEP YER SOCIALISM OFF MY MENUS!
/obligatory
Quote from: RecycleMichael on October 06, 2009, 08:52:45 AM
I travel too much and am always in a hurry and their breakfast fare is the best of the fast food circuit.
I would have to say that around here, Braums is far and away the best. Ask for OJ some places and you get a juice box, there you can get a flippin' quart.
At Jack In The Box you can get anything on the menu at anytime.
Quote from: Townsend on October 06, 2009, 09:04:28 AM
I'm not saying I'm without sin
So you will not be casting the first stone?
Quote from: Conan71 on October 06, 2009, 10:36:18 AM
So you will not be casting the first stone?
Tulsa is chock full of first stone throwers. I'm never first.
I wasn't trying to preach though. It's just another thing that makes sense to me that I doubt will happen.
Let the people eating it know what they are eating. It may force the industry to edge a little over to the healthier side.
Jack in the Box opened yesterday to big crowds.
There will be more sites in the Tulsa metro area but company officials have declined to say where at this time.
The new site is in front of the Walmart Supercenter at 71st and Aspen Ave. (145th E. Ave)
One of my friends was in line for an hour just to get some fast food there. I drove past it at 10:00PM last night and the drive through was lined up. I think it is crazy that people around here freak out so much over something new to the area.
Flashback to 1972 in Alston a suburb of Boston: Never, ever go back to this disgusting dingy dive.
Crack in the Box ..... that's what it resembled....especially under fluorescents at 3 a.m. following a Crosby/Nash show.
Set you up....now bring it.
Durant's Jack in the Box is open 24/7, but ours isn't even open until post-bar time.
Quote from: TheTed on April 06, 2010, 01:40:21 PM
Durant's Jack in the Box is open 24/7, but ours isn't even open until post-bar time.
Well, it is Broken Arrow......
Quote from: fotd on April 06, 2010, 01:41:40 PM
Well, it is Broken Arrow......
I'm waiting until the Tulsa location(s) open. If they're not open 24/7 I'm not even gonna consider dining there. Businesses that have worse hours in Tulsa than they do in every small town don't deserve my money (looking at you, Steak n Shake and Wendys).
Quote from: TheTed on April 06, 2010, 01:44:14 PM
I'm waiting until the Tulsa location(s) open. If they're not open 24/7 I'm not even gonna consider dining there. Businesses that have worse hours in Tulsa than they do in every small town don't deserve my money (looking at you, Steak n Shake and Wendys).
Quiktrip.. 24/7 baby..
Quote from: OpenYourEyesTulsa on April 06, 2010, 01:30:20 PM
One of my friends was in line for an hour just to get some fast food there. I drove past it at 10:00PM last night and the drive through was lined up. I think it is crazy that people around here freak out so much over something new to the area.
That's what happened when In-N-Out Burger came to Phoenix and it is still the same way 6 years later.
Quote from: dbacks fan on April 08, 2010, 03:54:30 PM
That's what happened when In-N-Out Burger came to Phoenix and it is still the same way 6 years later.
Yes, but Jack in the Box is nasty, In-N-Out is pretty good.
Jack kills.
http://www.about-ecoli.com/ecoli_outbreaks/view/jack-in-the-box-e-coli-outbreak (http://www.about-ecoli.com/ecoli_outbreaks/view/jack-in-the-box-e-coli-outbreak)
QuoteIn 1993, hundreds of people were injured and four children died after eating at Jack in the Box restaurants. The primary cause of the outbreak was adulterated hamburger patties manufactured and sold to the restaurant chain by one of its suppliers.
Yeah....the propaganda machine (Tulsa World) has to say something about why they left the area to start. Consolidation of effort.
(Trying ) Not to mention the salmonella trip...
And how could knowledge about what is in the stuff you eat possibly be Socialism??
Oh, wait,... the Republicontin kicks in again. (Re-branded Quaalude).
When will they have to post nutritional information?
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on April 08, 2010, 04:44:14 PM
Yeah....the propaganda machine (Tulsa World) has to say something about why they left the area to start. Consolidation of effort.
(Trying ) Not to mention the salmonella trip...
And how could knowledge about what is in the stuff you eat possibly be Socialism??
Oh, wait,... the Republicontin kicks in again. (Re-branded Quaalude).
Did the World mention it? Because when I think of Jack in the Box, that little boy dying in California is the first thing that comes to mind.
I'm glad they're making a comeback though. More choices is good. I might actually eat there if I'm up that way.
<<be sure to order the burger well-done>>
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May have to try them too. Definitely well done.
Quote from: Townsend on April 08, 2010, 04:32:33 PM
Jack kills.
http://www.about-ecoli.com/ecoli_outbreaks/view/jack-in-the-box-e-coli-outbreak (http://www.about-ecoli.com/ecoli_outbreaks/view/jack-in-the-box-e-coli-outbreak)
You should check out the movie "Food Inc." if you haven't already. It's all about the money not the quality of the food.
Mmm, ammonia treated mostly-fat beef trimmings. That don't get tested for bacterial contamination.
McDonald's was really happy when someone came up with that idea. It let them substitute the soy for "real beef," such that they can have "100% beef" burgers again. Never mind that 20 to 30% of the burger patty is now "meat" that nobody in their right mind would eat if they knew. (I'm not in my right mind, I eat it on occasion)
"In 1993, hundreds of people were injured and four children died after eating at Jack in the Box restaurants. The primary cause of the outbreak was adulterated hamburger patties manufactured and sold to the restaurant chain by one of its suppliers."
Yes this was a tragic event, but here are some real numbers on deaths from food poisoning in the US per year, and ecoli avareages 61 per year.
From the CDC:
"To better quantify the impact of foodborne diseases on health in the United States, we compiled and analyzed information from multiple surveillance systems and other sources. We estimate that foodborne diseases cause approximately 76 million illnesses, 325,000 hospitalizations, and 5,000 deaths in the United States each year. Known pathogens account for an estimated 14 million illnesses, 60,000 hospitalizations, and 1,800 deaths. Three pathogens, Salmonella, Listeria, and Toxoplasma, are responsible for 1,500 deaths each year, more than 75% of those caused by known pathogens, while unknown agents account for the remaining 62 million illnesses, 265,000 hospitalizations, and 3,200 deaths. Overall, foodborne diseases appear to cause more illnesses but fewer deaths than previously estimated. "
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol5no5/mead.htm (http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol5no5/mead.htm)
and from another site:
"Death rate extrapolations for USA for Food poisoning: 5,000 per year, 416 per month, 96 per week, 13 per day, 0 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second. Note: this automatic extrapolation calculation uses the deaths statistic: about 5,000 annually in USA"
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/f/food_poisoning/deaths.htm (http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/f/food_poisoning/deaths.htm)
So while that event was tragic, if you compare the 4 in Washington State to the average of 61 ecoli deaths per year, that was 0.065 percent of the total ecoli deaths. And with ecoli at 61 compared to the other 4936 deths/year, that is a very small percentage.
And these are only the reported numbers of food poisoning as the official cause.
I'm not too concerned about eating at Jack. Besides, it tastes better than the clown, the king, and the girl. JMO
Also to be fair, here is the article referenced, and be sure to read the last two paragraphs:
Jack in the Box Ends E. Coli Suits
The National Law Journal
November 17, 1997
BOB VAN VORIS
The last personal injury case over the 1993 E. coli breakout at Jack in the Box has settled, with lawyers for a 13-year-old boy here announcing Oct. 29 that they had accepted $ 3 million.
More than 600 people got sick in January 1993 from eating undercooked Jack in the Box hamburgers contaminated with E. coli, a bacterium that can cause diarrhea, abdominal pain and, in severe cases, kidney failure and even death. Most of the victims were children living in Washington state; four of them died.
In addition to Foodmaker Inc., the corporate owner of the West Coast-based Jack in the Box fast-food chain, lawyers for the 13-year-old sued the Vons Cos., which prepared hamburger patties for the chain, numerous beef suppliers and the local franchise operator. This latest settlement came from a $ 100 million fund established by 10 of the defendants' insurers, said one of those lawyers, William Marler, of Kargianis Watkins Marler in Seattle.
The boy, whose name is being withheld, spent 10 days in a hospital, where he required dialysis and blood transfusions. He has recovered but will require medical monitoring, said Mr. Marler.
Mr. Marler also represented the family of Brianne Kiner, a 9-year-old girl who fell into a 42-day coma after eating a contaminated hamburger. The girl, who continues to be treated for her injuries, received $ 15.6 million to settle in 1995.
A class action by plaintiffs with relatively minor injuries was settled for $ 12 million.
Jack in the Box was initially criticized for its handling of the crisis, losing credibility and stock market value immediately after the outbreak. But observers say the chain quickly recovered by instituting industry standard-setting food handling and cooking techniques.
And Mr. Marler, who said he recovered about $ 40 million in settlements for clients in the Jack in the Box cases, praised the companies and their lawyers for the way they've handled the claims: "They paid out in a way that made everybody walking away form the settlement table think they had been treated fairly."
http://www.about-ecoli.com/ecoli_outbreaks/news/jack-in-the-box-ends-e-coli-suits1/ (http://www.about-ecoli.com/ecoli_outbreaks/news/jack-in-the-box-ends-e-coli-suits1/)
Just a little more research. The Vons Cos. referenced as the vendor of the contaminated meat is the parent company of Safeway, and many other grocery stores.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+Vons+Cos.+Inc.+(proxy+report+excerpts)+(company+profile)-a06844412 (http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+Vons+Cos.+Inc.+(proxy+report+excerpts)+(company+profile)-a06844412)
Quote from: dbacks fan on April 09, 2010, 03:10:40 PM
And Mr. Marler, who said he recovered about $ 40 million in settlements for clients in the Jack in the Box cases, praised the companies and their lawyers for the way they've handled the claims: "They paid out in a way that made everybody walking away form the settlement table think they had been treated fairly."
I bet he was full of praise, to the tune of about $10 to $12mm personally.
Quote from: Townsend on April 08, 2010, 04:32:33 PM
Jack kills.
http://www.about-ecoli.com/ecoli_outbreaks/view/jack-in-the-box-e-coli-outbreak (http://www.about-ecoli.com/ecoli_outbreaks/view/jack-in-the-box-e-coli-outbreak)
There's a reason why it's called Yak in the Box.
Quote from: dbacks fan on April 08, 2010, 03:54:30 PM
That's what happened when In-N-Out Burger came to Phoenix and it is still the same way 6 years later.
They've been open in California since 1948 and most locations there still have long lines too.
I don't get In-N-Out. HIGHLY overrated. The burgers are just ok, but come with a gross mayonnaisey sauce on them, and the fries suk. Also, they print cryptic bible verses on the bottom of the cups and burger wrappers which is kinda creepy in a cultish way.
Ron's, Hank's, Claude's, Weber's, or Brownie's are all
much better.
Quote from: azbadpuppy on April 09, 2010, 08:26:43 PM
They've been open in California since 1948 and most locations there still have long lines too.
I don't get In-N-Out. HIGHLY overrated. The burgers are just ok, but come with a gross mayonnaisey sauce on them, and the fries suk. Also, they print cryptic bible verses on the bottom of the cups and burger wrappers which is kinda creepy in a cultish way.
Ron's, Hank's, Claude's, Weber's, or Brownie's are all much better.
I love Ron's, Hank's, Claude's, Weber's and Brownie's, I also prefer Coney-I-Lander, over Carl's and the others.
In-N-Out has it's special place because nothing is frozen, processed, or preserved, and their menu is simple and they do everything the same no matter which location you go to. Also, they are still family owned, they do not franchise, and they have no alligance to anyone. They raise their own beef and vegetables. If you have a problem with the bible verses, that's alright, and if you don't like their sauce that's OK as well, I will take exception on the fries because they do not come from a bag marked "Fries" they are made daily from actual potatos and if you want something different from the menu they will make it. If you want a double meat and double cheese with grilled onions, they will make it.
Look up the hidden In-N-Out list of special orders, and find a combination that you don't like, Oh wait a minute, there is nothing you like about them. They have been privately run for how many years? They have not been bought out by Pepsico, Coca Cola, and they continue to stand on their principles. They are the Braums of burgers and fries, and if you think that the people that work there are just "How May I Help You?" you are sorely mistaken. They don't look at a register and punch picture buttons that match the order placed
Quote from: dbacks fan on April 09, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
I love Ron's, Hank's, Claude's, Weber's and Brownie's, I also prefer Coney-I-Lander, over Carl's and the others.
In-N-Out has it's special place because nothing is frozen, processed, or preserved, and their menu is simple and they do everything the same no matter which location you go to. Also, they are still family owned, they do not franchise, and they have no alligance to anyone. They raise their own beef and vegetables. If you have a problem with the bible verses, that's alright, and if you don't like their sauce that's OK as well, I will take exception on the fries because they do not come from a bag marked "Fries" they are made daily from actual potatos and if you want something different from the menu they will make it. If you want a double meat and double cheese with grilled onions, they will make it.
Look up the hidden In-N-Out list of special orders, and find a combination that you don't like, Oh wait a minute, there is nothing you like about them. They have been privately run for how many years? They have not been bought out by Pepsico, Coca Cola, and they continue to stand on their principles. They are the Braums of burgers and fries, and if you think that the people that work there are just "How May I Help You?" you are sorely mistaken. They don't look at a register and punch picture buttons that match the order placed
I've been to enough of the I&Os to know that I think they're a wanna be franchisee system and IMO, overrated. They remind me of the west coast version of our Backyard Burger, only with more locations.
I don't go to any of the big chain hamburger places either. Braum's, Hank's (I live literally within walking distance) and Ron's are the only burgers I'll eat. I like Ron's because their sausage cheeseburger holds a special place in my stomach. But their spanish cheese fries are pure heaven.
Quote from: Hoss on April 09, 2010, 11:48:26 PM
I've been to enough of the I&Os to know that I think they're a wanna be franchisee system and IMO, overrated. They remind me of the west coast version of our Backyard Burger, only with more locations.
I don't go to any of the big chain hamburger places either. Braum's, Hank's (I live literally within walking distance) and Ron's are the only burgers I'll eat. I like Ron's because their sausage cheeseburger holds a special place in my stomach. But their spanish cheese fries are pure heaven.
I need to mentally prepare myself for a sausage chilli cheese burger with spanish fries.......Been a long time.....
Quote from: Breadburner on April 10, 2010, 08:19:46 AM
I need to mentally prepare myself for a sausage chilli cheese burger with spanish fries.......Been a long time.....
My co-workers and I used to eat a monstrosity that was the spanish chili cheese fries.
We used to call that the 'gastric anomaly'.
:o
Quote from: dbacks fan on April 09, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
Look up the hidden In-N-Out list of special orders, and find a combination that you don't like, Oh wait a minute, there is nothing you like about them.
I am well aware of their 'secret' menu. That's just it, though- there isn't anything else to like. It's only burgers and fries. That's it. I said I thought their burgers were ok, and certainly when I do eat there I get a special order to relieve the poor thing of that mayonnaise crap. Their fries are really dry and nasty IMO as a result of trying to be healthier. If you are going to blow your diet on that many calories and fat at least it should taste good.
I agree about their employees- always friendly and helpful. The whole bible verse thing- why do it subliminally? That's the creepy part. If they want to be Christians, fine, but don't be sneaky about it.
I think they are up to near 250 stores now. Franchise? Not yet. But make no mistake, they are a big fast food chain and fairly mediocre at that. Better than some of the others, but with an extremely limited menu. I just don't understand the cult following.
So KJRH, while discussing development along the new I44 corridor, deemed the possibility of a new Jack in the Box at I44 and Yale as newsworthy this morning.
Yay?