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Title: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: RecycleMichael on September 07, 2009, 07:00:46 PM
The annual migration has started. Billions of Monarch Butterflies fly south to a mountain spot in Mexico to winter and many travel through Tulsa. The large groups have been spotted in Nebraska this weekend which means they should be in Tulsa soon.

Have you experienced this in Tulsa?
Title: Re: Looking for4 Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: Ed W on September 07, 2009, 08:05:56 PM
When my kids were small, we often went to the elementary school playground in the evenings, if only to give Mama a little break.  Once, we had a moderate north wind, and I noticed what appeared to be leaves drifting along at 50 to 100 feet up.  Sure, there were trees nearby but the wind wasn't strong enough to carry leaves like that.  I had binoculars in my pocket.  They revealed butterflies, not leaves.

I thought there were other insects drifting with them, until the binoculars showed hawks riding thermals at well over 1000 feet, high enough to be in the terminal control area for the airport.  Indeed, some aircraft went by under the hawks.

That was many years ago.  I need to get out more.
Title: Re: Looking for4 Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: Red Arrow on September 07, 2009, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: Ed W on September 07, 2009, 08:05:56 PM

I thought there were other insects drifting with them, until the binoculars showed hawks riding thermals at well over 1000 feet, high enough to be in the terminal control area for the airport.  Indeed, some aircraft went by under the hawks.

Hawks and other soaring birds get up to several thousand feet of altitude. I don't remember at the moment the highest I've seen one but it is certainly over 4000 ft above the ground.   I occasionally get to fly with them, me in my sailplane.  Mostly sailplane pilots join the birds in thermals (birds are better at finding thermals than we are) but occasionally one of the feathered birds will join us.  Really great feeling.
Title: Re: Looking for4 Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: sgrizzle on September 07, 2009, 09:41:26 PM
I have 11 monarch crysalis' in my house. Should have butterflies shortly.
Title: Re: Looking for4 Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: mrsgrizzle on September 07, 2009, 10:35:15 PM
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/album.php?aid=137707&id=649369041

Praying we get all 11 butterflies! The first one transformed on August 30, so based on the 9-14 day cycle, we should be seeing activity this week!
Title: Re: Looking for4 Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: Red Arrow on September 07, 2009, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: mrsgrizzle on September 07, 2009, 10:35:15 PM
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/album.php?aid=137707&id=649369041

Praying we get all 11 butterflies! The first one transformed on August 30, so based on the 9-14 day cycle, we should be seeing activity this week!

Can/will you post the pictures somewhere that I don't have to log in to see the pictures please.
Title: Re: Looking for4 Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: Conan71 on September 08, 2009, 08:52:58 AM
Mr & Mrs. Grizzle- that is really cool.  How did you wind up with the butterflies in the first place?
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: sgrizzle on September 08, 2009, 09:01:38 AM
2ft square area surrounded by concrete in front of our house where we tried to get a rose bush to grow, milkweed thrived. Suddenly it was overrun with caterpillars so we transplanted them to a large clear box I got at Home Depot.
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: Conan71 on September 08, 2009, 09:13:58 AM
Quote from: sgrizzle on September 08, 2009, 09:01:38 AM
2ft square area surrounded by concrete in front of our house where we tried to get a rose bush to grow, milkweed thrived. Suddenly it was overrun with caterpillars so we transplanted them to a large clear box I got at Home Depot.

That is so neat, I had no idea milkweed would attract them.
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: sgrizzle on September 08, 2009, 09:19:21 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 08, 2009, 09:13:58 AM
That is so neat, I had no idea milkweed would attract them.

Neither did I.. I didn't even know it was milkweed.
Title: Re: Looking for4 Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: mrsgrizzle on September 08, 2009, 10:22:51 AM
Quote from: Red Arrow on September 07, 2009, 10:43:52 PM
Can/will you post the pictures somewhere that I don't have to log in to see the pictures please.
Sorry, I thought my Facebook page was open to anyone -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GScd3Oi7XSA
http://www.dropshots.com/mrsgrizzle#date/2009-08-27/15:14:17  (Scroll down through the pics to get to the chrysalises)
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: cannon_fodder on September 08, 2009, 10:24:48 AM
Milkweed is the preferred (some would say only, and I don't know for sure) food for Monarch caterpillars.   

I saw a few Monarchs this weekend, but no large groups of them.
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: mrsgrizzle on September 08, 2009, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 08, 2009, 09:13:58 AM
That is so neat, I had no idea milkweed would attract them.
This climbing plant (now we know is climbing milkweed) produced a weird, cool seed pod last year and we had no idea what it was until we found the caterpillars on there last week. We looked the caterpillars up and found they were monarchs, then we found out monarchs' host plant is milkweed, so I searched climbing milkweed and found pictures of the seed pods like we had last fall. I am so in love with this project, it might become a yearly thing. With monarch population in decline, anything we can do to further their chances of survival, we will do. Apparently their chances of making it from egg to adulthood is significantly lower outside our front door.
Title: Re: Looking for4 Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: Red Arrow on September 08, 2009, 07:35:42 PM
Quote from: mrsgrizzle on September 08, 2009, 10:22:51 AM
Sorry, I thought my Facebook page was open to anyone -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GScd3Oi7XSA
http://www.dropshots.com/mrsgrizzle#date/2009-08-27/15:14:17  (Scroll down through the pics to get to the chrysalises)

Great video and pics.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: mrsgrizzle on September 10, 2009, 08:40:58 AM
http://www.dropshots.com/mrsgrizzle#date/2009-09-10/08:08:00

We're expecting our first hatchling butterfly in the next day.
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: custosnox on September 10, 2009, 11:31:31 AM
now I feel bad for killing the milkweed that was overtaking our fence... okay, over that now
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: mrsgrizzle on September 10, 2009, 11:51:17 AM
And here is our first Monarch release - figured out I was calling it her but it's a male - oops.
http://www.dropshots.com/mrsgrizzle#date/2009-09-10/11:04:10
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: Conan71 on September 10, 2009, 01:24:38 PM
Awww, Logan is so darn cute!
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: mrsgrizzle on September 10, 2009, 03:15:18 PM
Thanks - he's rotten too! I was surprised he didn't want to hold the butterfly - he's usually more adventurous than Natalie.
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: Townsend on September 10, 2009, 03:26:45 PM
Quote from: mrsgrizzle on September 10, 2009, 03:15:18 PM
Thanks - he's rotten too! I was surprised he didn't want to hold the butterfly - he's usually more adventurous than Natalie.

How's his toe?
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: mrsgrizzle on September 10, 2009, 07:45:59 PM
Oh, bruised but not broken - Sweet of you to ask. He's a resiliant little boy. 
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: mrsgrizzle on September 11, 2009, 11:57:18 AM
Fun stuff from this morning's release. We ended up with 6 emerging today. Two flew off almost immediately, 3 are sitting outside on the flowers and 1 is still filling out his wings before I pull him out onto the flowers.

Logan getting brave and holding one - but immediately regretting it!
http://www.dropshots.com/mrsgrizzle#date/2009-09-11/11:03:42

Two butterflies annoying each other with wing stretching - they did it for a minute and finally moved apart.
http://www.dropshots.com/mrsgrizzle#date/2009-09-11/11:19:32

That leaves only 4 for the weekend! If anyone has milkweed (like custosnox) that wants rid of it, I will gladly come rescue it. Just let me know! I'm working on a butterfly flower bed.
Title: Re: Looking for Monarch Butterflies...
Post by: brianh on September 11, 2009, 12:23:20 PM
It's too bad there is a giant, hairy insect at the center of those really nice looking wings. If it were like a little tiny bird at the center or tiny rabbit maybe, no one would be afraid to touch it.