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Title: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Nic Nac on August 30, 2009, 07:58:31 PM
Heard a rumor that QT was purchasing the Lee's Bikes building on Brookside and that Lee's may be moving to the old Hollywood video building.  Anyone know if this is true or have any other info?
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: MDepr2007 on August 31, 2009, 10:10:43 PM
Quote from: Nic Nac on August 30, 2009, 07:58:31 PM
Heard a rumor that QT was purchasing the Lee's Bikes building on Brookside and that Lee's may be moving to the old Hollywood video building.  Anyone know if this is true or have any other info?

When did they move from Harvard?
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Conan71 on August 31, 2009, 11:06:31 PM
I don't ever remember a Lee's on Harvard.  There was one at 81st & Memorial and they own the Trek store at 96th'ish & Riverside.

Are you thinking of Mid-Town which used to be Venables at 27th & Harvard?  They are still there, and my preferred outfitter (shameless plug for another locally-owned business I like).
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Ed W on September 01, 2009, 03:47:18 PM
I liked Venable's for two reasons.  First, it's always comforting to see a mechanic with more gray hair than me.  And second, I loved that whiff of WD-40 and new tires that hit me in the face when I opened the door.

Then again, Tom Brown has more gray hair than me.  Don't tell him I said that!
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Conan71 on September 01, 2009, 04:01:59 PM
Quote from: Ed W on September 01, 2009, 03:47:18 PM
I liked Venable's for two reasons.  First, it's always comforting to see a mechanic with more gray hair than me.  And second, I loved that whiff of WD-40 and new tires that hit me in the face when I opened the door.

Then again, Tom Brown has more gray hair than me.  Don't tell him I said that!

Tom Brown had all that gray hair even before I met him 20 years ago!  There's a good success story, FWIW.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Breadburner on September 01, 2009, 05:37:38 PM
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=12886.0
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: tulsabug on September 01, 2009, 11:58:33 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2009, 04:01:59 PM
Tom Brown had all that gray hair even before I met him 20 years ago!  There's a good success story, FWIW.

Tom's got gray hair? Wow! I've only known him with white hair!  ;D
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: MDepr2007 on September 02, 2009, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on August 31, 2009, 11:06:31 PM
I don't ever remember a Lee's on Harvard.  There was one at 81st & Memorial and they own the Trek store at 96th'ish & Riverside.

Are you thinking of Mid-Town which used to be Venables at 27th & Harvard?  They are still there, and my preferred outfitter (shameless plug for another locally-owned business I like).

My mistake , it was Venables I was thinking about. Got my first BMX there back in '78
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Conan71 on September 03, 2009, 09:37:08 AM
Quote from: Nic Nac on August 30, 2009, 07:58:31 PM
Heard a rumor that QT was purchasing the Lee's Bikes building on Brookside and that Lee's may be moving to the old Hollywood video building.  Anyone know if this is true or have any other info?

Confirmed.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Nic Nac on September 03, 2009, 02:52:29 PM
Glad to see the Hollywood video space filled with a great tenant but hate to see the Lee's building torn down.  I wonder if QT will build a larger store or just expand the pumps?  Heard anything about this Conan?
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Conan71 on September 03, 2009, 03:57:05 PM
Quote from: Nic Nac on September 03, 2009, 02:52:29 PM
Glad to see the Hollywood video space filled with a great tenant but hate to see the Lee's building torn down.  I wonder if QT will build a larger store or just expand the pumps?  Heard anything about this Conan?

No, I heard it from the Lee's side of things from a friend who knows Adam pretty well.  Wish I had better 411 on the QT side of the fence, but don't.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Nic Nac on September 26, 2009, 01:30:39 PM
Someone from Lee's told me that they made a run at the Hollywood video building but couldn't come to terms.  I see now a sold sign on the building so I'm wondering who got it.  Any updates?
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: SXSW on November 03, 2009, 11:07:42 AM
Quote from: Nic Nac on September 26, 2009, 01:30:39 PM
Someone from Lee's told me that they made a run at the Hollywood video building but couldn't come to terms.  I see now a sold sign on the building so I'm wondering who got it.  Any updates?

Will Lee's be moving out of Brookside or are they looking at other locations?  And does QT really need the whole block between 36th St and 36th Pl? 
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Hoss on November 03, 2009, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: SXSW on November 03, 2009, 11:07:42 AM
Will Lee's be moving out of Brookside or are they looking at other locations?  And does QT really need the whole block between 36th St and 36th Pl? 

If it's to expand that QT, then as a patron of that QT, I would say yes, cosidering the traffic and usual difficulty in finding a parking spot there.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: TheArtist on November 03, 2009, 01:32:34 PM
Its not about needing to or not imo, unless they have some way of expanding that is in some way in accordance with the Brookside Plan, they shouldn't be allowed to expand.

There are places all over this city where you can't build things unless you get an exception approved (no mixed use, no high-rise, parking requirements, etc.).  This area is no different and I can't see that Brookside would allow a typical QT expansion in this area.  It would be completely anathema to the Brookside Plan.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Hoss on November 03, 2009, 01:56:47 PM
Quote from: TheArtist on November 03, 2009, 01:32:34 PM
Its not about needing to or not imo, unless they have some way of expanding that is in some way in accordance with the Brookside Plan, they shouldn't be allowed to expand.

There are places all over this city where you can't build things unless you get an exception approved (no mixed use, no high-rise, parking requirements, etc.).  This area is no different and I can't see that Brookside would allow a typical QT expansion in this area.  It would be completely anathema to the Brookside Plan.

You do know this is QT, right?   ;D

They'll get it.  I call it 'QT rules'.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: SXSW on November 03, 2009, 02:55:54 PM
Are they in effect doubling the amount of gas pumps?  That seems to be the only reason they would need the entire block from 36th St to 36th Pl.  I do hope if this is the case they put in a better sidewalk along Peoria and plant some trees on their easement.  Is the actual store itself expanding too?  This is the second time QT has frustrated me in as many weeks.  At 15th & Denver and 36th & Peoria QT could build an urban store that is a model for inner city convenience store/gas stations by building the store itself up to the sidewalk at the corner of each intersection with the gas pumps behind.  But instead it's more of the same crap.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Townsend on November 03, 2009, 03:29:20 PM
Quote from: SXSW on November 03, 2009, 02:55:54 PM
  At 15th & Denver and 36th & Peoria QT could build an urban store that is a model for inner city convenience store/gas stations by building the store itself up to the sidewalk at the corner of each intersection with the gas pumps behind.  But instead it's more of the same crap.

Like Walmart, they believe that the average Tulsa Consumer will not understand the "parking in the rear" issue.  It will cost them customers if the parking and gas pumps are not easily seen from the street.

Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: PonderInc on November 03, 2009, 03:51:59 PM
On 9/23/09, QT got an "alternative landscape compliance" plan for 36th and Peoria approved at the TMAPC.  I can't find any exhibits online, so can't tell what the new store layout is going to look like.  Hmmm.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: SXSW on November 03, 2009, 09:34:45 PM
Quote from: Townsend on November 03, 2009, 03:29:20 PM
Like Walmart, they believe that the average Tulsa Consumer will not understand the "parking in the rear" issue.  It will cost them customers if the parking and gas pumps are not easily seen from the street.

Well if the planning dept. had any backbone they wouldn't let them do it, regardless of the ignorance of some Tulsa consumers.  If you can't figure out that parking and the gas pumps are in the rear you shouldn't have a driver's license.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Townsend on November 03, 2009, 09:42:39 PM
Quote from: SXSW on November 03, 2009, 09:34:45 PM
Well if the planning dept. had any backbone they wouldn't let them do it, regardless of the ignorance of some Tulsa consumers.  If you can't figure out that parking and the gas pumps are in the rear you shouldn't have a driver's license.

They are the "not enough parking downtown" folk.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: SXSW on November 03, 2009, 09:46:38 PM
Quote from: Townsend on November 03, 2009, 09:42:39 PM
They are the "not enough parking downtown" folk.

..and they have nearly the entire city plus the suburbs that cater to their needs.  Downtown and midtown should be the exception and if they don't like it, too bad.  Another reason to get the comprehensive plan implemented as soon as we can and we have to hope the next mayor embraces it.

Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Red Arrow on November 03, 2009, 10:20:04 PM
The attitude is getting a bit militant here. 

Remember that when a residential neighborhood doesn't want the character of their neighborhood changed by adding multi-story condos, mixed use, McMansions, etc.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: OurTulsa on November 04, 2009, 12:33:59 PM
Quote from: SXSW on November 03, 2009, 09:46:38 PM
..and they have nearly the entire city plus the suburbs that cater to their needs.  Downtown and midtown should be the exception and if they don't like it, too bad.  Another reason to get the comprehensive plan implemented as soon as we can and we have to hope the next mayor embraces it.



Exactly!

Until then and more specifically until we start implementing it by changing some of the Codes that guide development in particular parts of Tulsa the City doesn't have a leg to stand on if QT's already got the zoning.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Conan71 on November 04, 2009, 12:42:43 PM
But, are they going to make this one more pedestrian-friendly?  :D
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: SXSW on November 04, 2009, 01:32:54 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on November 03, 2009, 10:20:04 PM
The attitude is getting a bit militant here. 

Remember that when a residential neighborhood doesn't want the character of their neighborhood changed by adding multi-story condos, mixed use, McMansions, etc.

In that case you have the NIMBY (Not In My BackYard) syndrome rear its head.  I'm not advocating QT not expand its stores in urban areas.  I love QT and think their expanded stores are a great idea, and understand that the busier stores in neighborhoods like Brookside and Riverview have a lot of demand/customers because there aren't more QT's in those areas like in other parts of the city.  The bone I have to pick is that these neighborhoods are two of only a handful of walkable, higher density neighborhoods in the city and that these QT's do actually get a lot of foot and bike traffic unlike the one at, say, 91st & Yale.  They are also part of the overall urban fabric of the neighborhood which happens to be more pedestrian-oriented with buildings facing the sidewalk, zero lot lines, parking in the rear and on the street, etc.  The question is does QT not care about the character of the neighborhoods that give them all of their customers to even entertain the idea of changing their site plan?  Or is the company just all about business and changing the 'standard' site plan could be more expensive, even in distinct neighborhoods in QT's hometown?   Or...is QT not educated in how to build urban because doing so is rare in Tulsa and the city's zoning/planning does not offer any guidance??
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Red Arrow on November 04, 2009, 02:11:04 PM
Quote from: SXSW on November 04, 2009, 01:32:54 PM
In that case you have the NIMBY (Not In My BackYard) syndrome rear its head.  I'm not advocating QT not expand its stores in urban areas.  I love QT and think their expanded stores are a great idea, and understand that the busier stores in neighborhoods like Brookside and Riverview have a lot of demand/customers because there aren't more QT's in those areas like in other parts of the city.  The bone I have to pick is that these neighborhoods are two of only a handful of walkable, higher density neighborhoods in the city and that these QT's do actually get a lot of foot and bike traffic unlike the one at, say, 91st & Yale.  They are also part of the overall urban fabric of the neighborhood which happens to be more pedestrian-oriented with buildings facing the sidewalk, zero lot lines, parking in the rear and on the street, etc.  The question is does QT not care about the character of the neighborhoods that give them all of their customers to even entertain the idea of changing their site plan?  Or is the company just all about business and changing the 'standard' site plan could be more expensive, even in distinct neighborhoods in QT's hometown?   Or...is QT not educated in how to build urban because doing so is rare in Tulsa and the city's zoning/planning does not offer any guidance??

I can see some NIMBY in "your" case too.  "You" don't want a certain style of QT store in Brookside because it doesn't blend in with the desires of the community.  I happen to agree that QT should try to blend in a bit more in some locations.  I hope you will be supportive of a community that tries to block someone else's idea of what that community should become if that community doesn't want buildings up to the side walk, multi-story condos/apartments, mixed use zoning, etc.

Every once in a while I feel the need to remind folks here on TN that not everyone wants to turn all of Tulsa County into downtown Manhattan, Boston, Chicago, etc.  (I know that's an exaggeration.)
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Conan71 on November 04, 2009, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: SXSW on November 04, 2009, 01:32:54 PM
   Or...is QT not educated in how to build urban because doing so is rare in Tulsa and the city's zoning/planning does not offer any guidance??

Problem seems to be as we are seeing with the comments on Liz Wright and TMAPC that the developers and large commercial interests seem to be giving all the guidance to TMAPC.  I honestly think QT probably gets "express lane" treatment at the permits department.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: OurTulsa on November 04, 2009, 03:04:09 PM
I don't see anything wrong with parts of our City taking on a very consistent urban form, including parts of Brookside.  QT can contribute to that form or completely disrupt it.

Unfortunately QT's market is vehicular based.  There isn't enough pedestrian traffic at any QT store to warrant an urban design and there aren't any City codes that require it.  Their philosophy is rooted in our auto-dominated form of transport and they want to make sure that cars (people in them) are reassured that there will always be a place for them to park and access in and out of a site will be relatively easy.  That philosophy conflicts with the generally accepted desire to make Brookside more urban and it conflicts with the historic pattern provided (although pocked nearly to death) in Riverview.  Our City hasn't accepted yet that there needs to be specific codes that support and in fact require an urban form and until that happens QT can continue to thumb their nose at any neighborhood advocate or city employee and enforce their formulaic site design into our urban fabric.

Again, the real pi$$er about QT's Brookside expansion is that both QT and Lee's have the CH zoning classification - meaning they will in all liklihood be able to do whatever they want there.  They won't have to ask the City for a thing (although I heard somewhere they filed and got an alternative compliance on the Landscaping from the Planning Commission - don't know details but big whoop).
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: SXSW on November 05, 2009, 08:14:23 AM
Quote from: Red Arrow on November 04, 2009, 02:11:04 PM
I can see some NIMBY in "your" case too.  "You" don't want a certain style of QT store in Brookside because it doesn't blend in with the desires of the community.  I happen to agree that QT should try to blend in a bit more in some locations.  I hope you will be supportive of a community that tries to block someone else's idea of what that community should become if that community doesn't want buildings up to the side walk, multi-story condos/apartments, mixed use zoning, etc.

Every once in a while I feel the need to remind folks here on TN that not everyone wants to turn all of Tulsa County into downtown Manhattan, Boston, Chicago, etc.  (I know that's an exaggeration.)

I'm just a fan of innovation and good urban design.  I realize QT is a gas station, a business set up around getting cars in and out of pumps as quick and easy as possible.  Yet you can still do that and create a more urban design that blends in with Brookside.  It would be an interesting project for, say, OU architecture students to take on: how to turn an automobile-centric site plan into an urban design.  It's not like Tulsa is alone though.  I went to Chicago recently and noticed QT-like gas stations, drive-thru chain restaurants and banks, etc. sandwiched into their downtown area.  However, it would be cool to see QT try to do an urban store that could be a model for future stores in urban locations, actually creating something innovative in their hometown of Tulsa.  So then if QT expands into downtown or near-downtown locations in bigger cities like Denver, Chicago, St. Louis, Atlanta, etc. they have a more urban model that was first perfected in Tulsa..

Back on topic though, does anyone know where Lee's is moving?  I'm trying to think of any good vacant spots along Brookside and only the Hollywood comes to mind, which I've heard is already taken.  I wonder how long that Blockbuster at 36th will survive? 
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Conan71 on November 05, 2009, 10:47:21 AM
+1, great response SXSW.

I think you could definitely design around a neighborhood without really upsetting your store forumula and function.  Sure it would cost a little more to come up with and impliment a design that is better than a bland small box which matches the area. 
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: AVERAGE JOE on November 05, 2009, 01:57:34 PM
Just turn the whole site plan so it faces 36th Street, not Peoria. There's an entrance to the new QT model on the front corners of the building. That corner could be pretty close to the sidewalk if they got a little creative with their site plan. Face the front to the north and slide the building eastward toward Peoria. Put additional parking to the back of the lot "behind" (in reality, to the side) of the building. The store would be plenty visible for northbound drivers on Peoria -- you'd see the gas pump canopy from blocks away.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: PonderInc on November 05, 2009, 02:21:03 PM
Several months ago, I heard a rumor that Lee's might be headed to someplace on/near Cherry Street.  Haven't heard anything else since then.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Markk on November 05, 2009, 02:35:02 PM
I'm sure there is a certain know-it-all member who will post a cyptic response to this thread that suggests something about he/she knows re the plans for this site, in order to invite questions and inflate his/her ego.

Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Townsend on November 05, 2009, 02:40:58 PM
Quote from: Markk on November 05, 2009, 02:35:02 PM
I'm sure there is a certain know-it-all member who will post a cyptic response to this thread that suggests something about he/she knows re the plans for this site, in order to invite questions and inflate his/her ego.



Does his moniker rhyme with "farted"?
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: SXSW on November 05, 2009, 03:57:17 PM
If they could create a full-service bike shop like Mellow Johnnys (owned by Lance Armstrong) in downtown Austin that would be really cool, either in Brookside, Cherry Street, or downtown.  Downtown would be good just because it could serve as a place for bike commuters to store their bikes during the day and would also have showers/locker rooms, which is what Johnnys provides downtown Austin bikers.  Johnnys is first and foremost a bike shop that sells and repairs bikes, but also has a coffee shop and the aforementioned showers/locker rooms.  One of the buildings in Blue Dome would be perfect for this type of setup.

http://www.mellowjohnnys.com/theshop.php (http://www.mellowjohnnys.com/theshop.php)
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Red Arrow on November 05, 2009, 04:22:13 PM
Quote from: SXSW on November 05, 2009, 03:57:17 PM
If they could create a full-service bike shop like Mellow Johnnys (owned by Lance Armstrong) in downtown Austin that would be really cool, either in Brookside, Cherry Street, or downtown.  Downtown would be good just because it could serve as a place for bike commuters to store their bikes during the day and would also have showers/locker rooms, which is what Johnnys provides downtown Austin bikers.  Johnnys is first and foremost a bike shop that sells and repairs bikes, but also has a coffee shop and the aforementioned showers/locker rooms.  One of the buildings in Blue Dome would be perfect for this type of setup.

http://www.mellowjohnnys.com/theshop.php (http://www.mellowjohnnys.com/theshop.php)

That would take a big load off of individual employers to provide showers/lockers for their employees.  I may be a more practical/successful approach to make it easier for people to bike to work.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: SXSW on November 06, 2009, 07:57:20 AM
Quote from: Red Arrow on November 05, 2009, 04:22:13 PM
That would take a big load off of individual employers to provide showers/lockers for their employees.  I may be a more practical/successful approach to make it easier for people to bike to work.

My cousin works in downtown Austin but lives about 2 miles from downtown.  He hadn't riden a bike in years and always drove to work but after this place opened he decided to give it a try because he finally had a place where he could shower, change, and keep his bike during the day only a few blocks from his office tower.  He says it's really helped those interested in biking to work and I think such a place could do the same in downtown Tulsa.  Tulsa doesn't have the same dense population right next to downtown like Austin does but there are people living in Riverview, Cherry Street, Maple Ridge, and maybe as far as Brookside (via the MV Trail) that would commute by bike into downtown if they had a place to shower and change.  Just a thought for Lee's to consider.  If not Lee's than maybe the Soundpony guys would be interested in doing something similar.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: swake on November 06, 2009, 08:33:51 AM
Quote from: SXSW on November 06, 2009, 07:57:20 AM
My cousin works in downtown Austin but lives about 2 miles from downtown.  He hadn't riden a bike in years and always drove to work but after this place opened he decided to give it a try because he finally had a place where he could shower, change, and keep his bike during the day only a few blocks from his office tower.  He says it's really helped those interested in biking to work and I think such a place could do the same in downtown Tulsa.  Tulsa doesn't have the same dense population right next to downtown like Austin does but there are people living in Riverview, Cherry Street, Maple Ridge, and maybe as far as Brookside (via the MV Trail) that would commute by bike into downtown if they had a place to shower and change.  Just a thought for Lee's to consider.  If not Lee's than maybe the Soundpony guys would be interested in doing something similar.

There was a bike shop for years until not too long ago at 6th and Boston, and there's one at I think 13th and Boulder too.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: SXSW on November 06, 2009, 01:28:39 PM
Quote from: swake on November 06, 2009, 08:33:51 AM
There was a bike shop for years until not too long ago at 6th and Boston, and there's one at I think 13th and Boulder too.

I'm pretty sure the one at 6th & Boston closed awhile back, it was in that really ugly parking garage.  G Oscar Bikes is at 16th & Main and is still going strong.  None of them have anything like Johnnys when it comes to locker rooms/showers being part of the bike shop. 
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Conan71 on November 06, 2009, 01:45:08 PM
Quote from: SXSW on November 06, 2009, 01:28:39 PM
I'm pretty sure the one at 6th & Boston closed awhile back, it was in that really ugly parking garage.  G Oscar Bikes is at 16th & Main and is still going strong.  None of them have anything like Johnnys when it comes to locker rooms/showers being part of the bike shop. 

Something like that downtown with some sort of shuttle service would be a great idea.  That may not even be necessary, most people who bicycle don't have a problem walking a few blocks either.  I think usage would be limited (+/- 200 people/day?) but still, getting 200 people out of their cars doesn't hurt anything.

Going to the website and feedback from friends says that MJ's is one of the coolest bike shops on the planet.  I've not made the pilgramage to Mellow Johnny's yet, but plan to when I go to a MTB race in Feb. near Austin or go back a month later for a rowing regatta, or when I do the Houston to Austin MS-150 ride in April, so I've got three opportunities in the spring to check out the set up there. 

I work near 41st & highway 75 and live near 31st & Yale.  I'd gladly bike to work every day if not for needing my truck to go on sales calls during the day.  We've got a suite in our offices with a shower, so I don't have the no shower excuse.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: SXSW on November 06, 2009, 03:34:55 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on November 06, 2009, 01:45:08 PM
Something like that downtown with some sort of shuttle service would be a great idea.  That may not even be necessary, most people who bicycle don't have a problem walking a few blocks either.  I think usage would be limited (+/- 200 people/day?) but still, getting 200 people out of their cars doesn't hurt anything.

Going to the website and feedback from friends says that MJ's is one of the coolest bike shops on the planet.  I've not made the pilgramage to Mellow Johnny's yet, but plan to when I go to a MTB race in Feb. near Austin or go back a month later for a rowing regatta, or when I do the Houston to Austin MS-150 ride in April, so I've got three opportunities in the spring to check out the set up there. 

I work near 41st & highway 75 and live near 31st & Yale.  I'd gladly bike to work every day if not for needing my truck to go on sales calls during the day.  We've got a suite in our offices with a shower, so I don't have the no shower excuse.

If you're down there you should check it out and let us know what you think.  Some jobs you have to have a car to go places around the city but lots of jobs where you're working at a desk in an office all day, like the ones you mostly find downtown, would be perfect for bike commuting if you don't live too far and have access to showers. 
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Conan71 on November 06, 2009, 03:56:13 PM
Quote from: SXSW on November 06, 2009, 03:34:55 PM
If you're down there you should check it out and let us know what you think.  Some jobs you have to have a car to go places around the city but lots of jobs where you're working at a desk in an office all day, like the ones you mostly find downtown, would be perfect for bike commuting if you don't live too far and have access to showers. 

Absolutely.  I know there are some members on here who bike downtown and back with some regularity.  There's definitely many people who live within a comfortable bike commute to downtown who would take advantage of it if they had a place to clean up and a safe place to stash the bike.

If I had a company vehicle at work or a second car at home, I'd leave one of them at the office and bike, no question, 36th St. and the river trails work very conveniently for me to bike to work or bike to rowing practice at the boathouse at RWFP.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: janiedoll on November 06, 2009, 10:51:27 PM
I have it from a very reliable source that if all the "t"s are crossed and the "i"s dotted, Lee's Bike Shop will be within 4 blocks of its very first location!  Now who knows where that was?
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Conan71 on November 07, 2009, 10:35:44 PM
From my 411 which is pretty solid, that would have to be within four blocks of 2nd & Frankfurt.  ;)

I'm hearing the concept of Mellow Johnny's isn't exactly foreign to these guys.  I hope this works out and it's supported.  Major gamble, but if they can create the right atmosphere, it will be successful. 

Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: JoeMommaBlake on November 07, 2009, 10:42:10 PM
Is this a secret? I've heard from multiple sources that Lee's will no longer be on Brookside, but that instead they will be upgrading to a better geographic location. . . conveniently located in proximity to some of Tulsa's best restaurants.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: pfox on November 08, 2009, 10:33:36 AM
What Blake said.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: SXSW on November 08, 2009, 01:28:03 PM
Existing building or new construction?
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Conan71 on November 08, 2009, 03:43:17 PM
Quote from: SXSW on November 08, 2009, 01:28:03 PM
Existing building or new construction?

There's an existing building.  My mole says things should be legal in a week.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Markk on November 08, 2009, 04:13:18 PM
Quote from: JoeMommaBlake on November 07, 2009, 10:42:10 PM
Is this a secret? I've heard from multiple sources that Lee's will no longer be on Brookside, but that instead they will be upgrading to a better geographic location. . . conveniently located in proximity to some of Tulsa's best restaurants.

Instead of being so oblique, can you just say where you have heard it may move?  An intersection, perhaps??
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Nic Nac on November 09, 2009, 08:15:31 PM
So there are a couple of bikes up in the front window of one of the old "Brookside Design District" spaces.  One or two doors South of the new gym that went in.  Anybody have info on this?  I'm guessing someone is moving in to catch a bit of Lee's business after the upcoming move.  Tom's perhaps?  Looks like it would be about the same size as the Tom's location on 15th but haven't looked too close. 
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: FOTD on November 09, 2009, 11:12:07 PM
It's going to be a sublet in the Camille's on 15th, right?

If FOTD had to guess it would be the old Hollywood video across from Claude's and Yale cleaners to the south.

Roses Pawn shop on 2nd?

The suspense is killing me.

Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Townsend on November 10, 2009, 07:59:49 AM
Quote from: FOTD on November 09, 2009, 11:12:07 PM
Roses Pawn shop on 2nd?


I would love it if that was taken over by someone who gave two shins about the space.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Conan71 on November 10, 2009, 11:20:30 PM
Quote from: FOTD on November 09, 2009, 11:12:07 PM
It's going to be a sublet in the Camille's on 15th, right?

If FOTD had to guess it would be the old Hollywood video across from Claude's and Yale cleaners to the south.

Roses Pawn shop on 2nd?

The suspense is killing me.



Hollywood died weeks ago.  I've heard no bike related business w/ Rutzkauskis.  2nd street, not the pawn building. Look about two blocks east
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: FOTD on November 10, 2009, 11:44:34 PM
Well, that location works....caution, do not stop on tracks! Yikes!

Go Lee's!
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: SXSW on November 11, 2009, 01:01:47 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on November 10, 2009, 11:20:30 PM
Hollywood died weeks ago.  I've heard no bike related business w/ Rutzkauskis.  2nd street, not the pawn building. Look about two blocks east

The building with the wrap-around glass at the corner of 2nd & Frankfort?
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Nic Nac on November 11, 2009, 11:05:11 AM
Quote from: SXSW on November 11, 2009, 01:01:47 AM
The building with the wrap-around glass at the corner of 2nd & Frankfort?

Man, I hope so.  That's one of my favorite buildings downtown.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: dbacks fan on November 11, 2009, 11:47:39 AM
Quote from: Nic Nac on November 11, 2009, 11:05:11 AM
Man, I hope so.  That's one of my favorite buildings downtown.

It's funny you metioned that  place. I used to take one of my cars there in the 80's when it was a European car repair shop that specialized in BMW. They were the only place that I could find that knew how to tune the Weber carbs on my Jensen Healey.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: Conan71 on November 11, 2009, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: SXSW on November 11, 2009, 01:01:47 AM
The building with the wrap-around glass at the corner of 2nd & Frankfort?

*Conan whistling to himself*

Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: janiedoll on November 11, 2009, 10:58:31 PM
Oh, you guys are getting sooooo close!!!!!  And the Hollywood Video Store deal was out, like, months ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Adam has great plans for relocating DT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D :o :o ;D ;D

COMING HOME ON 66[move]

Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: tulsascoot on November 12, 2009, 09:00:46 AM
I heard it was going into one of Kitchell's old eyesores on 2nd st.
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: allspunout on November 20, 2009, 04:32:25 PM
blue dome district keenfirmed
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: mrB on December 31, 2009, 12:11:29 AM
Lee's Bicycles on facebook confirms location with some video!

http://www.facebook.com/LeesBicyclesTulsa#/LeesBicyclesTulsa?v=wall (http://www.facebook.com/LeesBicyclesTulsa#/LeesBicyclesTulsa?v=wall)

Quote from: Conan71 on December 22, 2009, 11:39:06 AM
If any of you are friends with Lee's Bicycles on Facebook, they posted a :51 second video on their FB page regarding their new space at 2nd & Frankfurt.  It's not on Youtube or I'd re-post.  Just an empty shell now, they are saying it'll look "like Marilyn Monroe" when they are done.

Go Adam!
Title: Re: Lee's Bicycles
Post by: SXSW on January 06, 2010, 04:38:49 PM
Story in today's TW about the move to Blue Dome.  Good location near the MV Trail for people biking into downtown from the north and south.  Now if they can just fix how the trail connects from 3rd to Jasper; currently the actual bike trail ends at 3rd and you have to go west on 3rd to Greenwood and then north to Jasper.  It would be nice to see the trail continued all the way or actual bike lanes along 3rd and Greenwood. 

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=53&articleid=20100106_53_E1_Aaadru613505&allcom=1#commentform (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=53&articleid=20100106_53_E1_Aaadru613505&allcom=1#commentform)