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Not At My Table - Political Discussions => Local & State Politics => Topic started by: Wrinkle on August 24, 2009, 08:06:28 PM

Title: Petition Declared Illegal - Non-Partisan Elections effort corrupted
Post by: Wrinkle on August 24, 2009, 08:06:28 PM
Not sure why I'm feeling like I have to report the news, but seems important events sometimes slip through the cracks around this forum.

Tulsa County District Judge Jefferson Sellers ruled Monday that an initiative petition seeking nonpartisan city elections was invalid.

Read it here: http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090824_11_0_TulsaC888985 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090824_11_0_TulsaC888985)

Maybe we should prosecute the petitioners, and those who attempted to leverage it illegally, like they did for those involved with the TABOR Petition.


Title: Re: Petition Declared Illegal - Non-Partisan Elections effort corrupted
Post by: Conan71 on August 24, 2009, 08:44:07 PM
Quote from: Wrinkle on August 24, 2009, 08:06:28 PM
Not sure why I'm feeling like I have to report the news, but seems important events sometimes slip through the cracks around this forum.

Tulsa County District Judge Jefferson Sellers ruled Monday that an initiative petition seeking nonpartisan city elections was invalid.

Read it here: http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090824_11_0_TulsaC888985 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090824_11_0_TulsaC888985)

Maybe we should prosecute the petitioners, and those who attempted to leverage it illegally, like they did for those involved with the TABOR Petition.



I thought that happened a couple of weeks ago, or were they saying then it would be heard?
Title: Re: Petition Declared Illegal - Non-Partisan Elections effort corrupted
Post by: shadows on August 24, 2009, 09:37:22 PM
The nonpartisan city elections is like the cat you gave away that still keeps coming home. It was discussed in the 40's 60's before the two charter election, by the city commissioners then the city councilors. 

General seems to be the word that was interpreted wrong.  Seems there is a group who want to further reduce the number of voters that participate in the city elections not withstanding the number of elective offices of the city has already been reduced.  Apathy has been exchanged for the electoral process in the city.

Title: Re: Petition Declared Illegal - Non-Partisan Elections effort corrupted
Post by: sgrizzle on August 25, 2009, 06:58:00 AM
It was thrown out because they figured the number of signatures wrong.

That is obviously a crime worth beheading.
Title: Re: Petition Declared Illegal - Non-Partisan Elections effort corrupted
Post by: Wrinkle on August 25, 2009, 01:36:13 PM
Quote from: sgrizzle on August 25, 2009, 06:58:00 AM
It was thrown out because they figured the number of signatures wrong.

That is obviously a crime worth beheading.

At least we agree on that.

Besides just bad counting, it's a mindset that finds, applies and/or makes up rules which justify their agenda. In this case, an open attempt to subvert democracy by rigging an election which would potentially modify our form of government.

In short, an attempt to put a fast one by voters.

If that isn't the equivalent of a horse thief, I don't know what is.

Maybe beheading is a little harsh, but public hangings would suffice.

(Which makes me recall the obituary of one corrupted politician which stated "Died when the stage on which he was standing during a public ceremony, held in his honor, collapsed".)


Title: Re: Petition Declared Illegal - Non-Partisan Elections effort corrupted
Post by: swake on August 25, 2009, 01:43:16 PM
Quote from: Wrinkle on August 25, 2009, 01:36:13 PM
At least we agree on that.

Besides just bad counting, it's a mindset that finds, applies and/or makes up rules which justify their agenda. In this case, an open attempt to subvert democracy by rigging an election which would potentially modify our form of government.

In short, an attempt to put a fast one by voters.

If that isn't the equivalent of a horse thief, I don't know what is.



"open attempt to subvert democracy by rigging an election"

Really?
Title: Re: Petition Declared Illegal - Non-Partisan Elections effort corrupted
Post by: Wrinkle on August 25, 2009, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: swake on August 25, 2009, 01:43:16 PM
"open attempt to subvert democracy by rigging an election"

Really?


Really
Title: Re: Petition Declared Illegal - Non-Partisan Elections effort corrupted
Post by: RecycleMichael on August 25, 2009, 02:16:06 PM
I like partisan.

It makes elections more fun.
Title: Re: Petition Declared Illegal - Non-Partisan Elections effort corrupted
Post by: rwarn17588 on August 25, 2009, 02:48:34 PM
Quote from: Wrinkle on August 25, 2009, 01:46:00 PM

Really


You forgot the 9/11 conspiracy, Obama's birth certificate and the Trilateral Commission being a threat to our way of life, too. ::)

Hyperbole much?
Title: Re: Petition Declared Illegal - Non-Partisan Elections effort corrupted
Post by: Hoss on August 25, 2009, 04:18:34 PM
Quote from: rwarn17588 on August 25, 2009, 02:48:34 PM
You forgot the 9/11 conspiracy, Obama's birth certificate and the Trilateral Commission being a threat to our way of life, too. ::)

Hyperbole much?

Don't forget the Pentaverate, which includes:

The Queen
The Rothschilds
The Gettys
The Vatican
Colonel Sanders (before he went teats up)..

;D
Title: Re: Petition Declared Illegal - Non-Partisan Elections effort corrupted
Post by: Conan71 on August 25, 2009, 04:19:31 PM
Quote from: Hoss on August 25, 2009, 04:18:34 PM
Don't forget the Pentaverate, which includes:

The Queen
The Rothschilds
The Gettys
The Vatican
Colonel Sanders (before he went teats up)..

;D

I thought there were six, including the Easter Bunny.
Title: Re: Petition Declared Illegal - Non-Partisan Elections effort corrupted
Post by: sgrizzle on August 25, 2009, 09:40:49 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on August 25, 2009, 04:19:31 PM
I thought there were six, including the Easter Bunny.

Nope, just five. The meet triannually in a secret location known only as.. the meadows.