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Title: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Conan71 on July 03, 2009, 02:58:10 PM
There's a press conference on CNN right now, Sarah Palin has stepped down as Alaska's governor.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: FOTD on July 03, 2009, 03:02:12 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on July 03, 2009, 02:58:10 PM
There's a press conference on CNN right now, Sarah Palin has stepped down as Alaska's governor.


WOW! Think someone uncovered the truth about her third child?

Is our National Joke over?
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: guido911 on July 03, 2009, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: FOTD on July 03, 2009, 03:02:12 PM


Is our National Joke over?

Nope, Obama is still president.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: FOTD on July 03, 2009, 03:37:19 PM
Quote from: guido911 on July 03, 2009, 03:15:33 PM
Nope, Obama is still president.

Way to bend her over (see avatar)!
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Hoss on July 03, 2009, 03:38:58 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on July 03, 2009, 02:58:10 PM
There's a press conference on CNN right now, Sarah Palin has stepped down as Alaska's governor.

The way I'm seeing it reported right now is that she's not stepping down, but she's not seeking re-election.  A little difference there.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: cynical on July 03, 2009, 03:46:40 PM
Nope.  She's stepping down effective 7/26 and handing the job over to the Lt. Gov.

Quote from: Hoss on July 03, 2009, 03:38:58 PM
The way I'm seeing it reported right now is that she's not stepping down, but she's not seeking re-election.  A little difference there.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on July 03, 2009, 04:52:03 PM
Wow..

"I don't like this any more, I am going to go do something else" 

Thx Alaska, I am going to go ahead and take off a year and a half early.

That means she is going to be MIA from her post for about 2 out of the 4 years if you include the election time off...
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Ed W on July 03, 2009, 05:49:37 PM
Ahhh, Sarah.  The woman just can't help herself.  She gives and gives and gives.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3621/3684997335_508e84dfb8.jpg?v=0)

The only thing she left out was whether she'd seek the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: guido911 on July 03, 2009, 06:00:53 PM
Quote from: Trogdor on July 03, 2009, 04:52:03 PM
Wow..

"I don't like this any more, I am going to go do something else" 

Thx Alaska, I am going to go ahead and take off a year and a half early.

That means she is going to be MIA from her post for about 2 out of the 4 years if you include the election time off...

Didn't hear you complaining when Obama went MIA from the senate for almost two years to run for president.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on July 03, 2009, 06:11:47 PM
Quote from: guido911 on July 03, 2009, 06:00:53 PM
Didn't hear you complaining when Obama went MIA from the senate for almost two years to run for president.

First, He didn't quit, he still made most of the votes  (Barack Obama missed 314 of 1300 roll call votes (24%) since Jan 6, 2005) http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400629&tab=votes (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400629&tab=votes)
Second, He wasn't the ONLY Senator.  Palin was the only Governor...

I also didn't complain that McCain missed votes in the Senate.  The only reason why I mention Palin's absence is because she is quitting.  In the future she will throw up how awesome she was as the Governor of Alaska when she only was really acting as Gov. for 2 out of the 4 years. 

Besides, what does Obama have to do with this?

 
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Red Arrow on July 03, 2009, 06:25:38 PM
Quote from: Trogdor on July 03, 2009, 06:11:47 PM
First, He didn't quit, he still made most of the votes  (Barack Obama missed 314 of 1300 roll call votes (24%) since Jan 6, 2005)
Second, He wasn't the ONLY Senator. 

I think I'll tell my boss I'm only going to work 30 hrs/week while I look for a better job. While I'm looking, I want all my health care and other benefits as well as being paid my full salary.

(I know Obama isn't the only one to do this, just the only one you posted numbers for. I expect others are similar.)
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Hoss on July 03, 2009, 06:44:13 PM
Quote from: Trogdor on July 03, 2009, 06:11:47 PM
First, He didn't quit, he still made most of the votes  (Barack Obama missed 314 of 1300 roll call votes (24%) since Jan 6, 2005) http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400629&tab=votes (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400629&tab=votes)
Second, He wasn't the ONLY Senator.  Palin was the only Governor...

I also didn't complain that McCain missed votes in the Senate.  The only reason why I mention Palin's absence is because she is quitting.  In the future she will throw up how awesome she was as the Governor of Alaska when she only was really acting as Gov. for 2 out of the 4 years. 

Besides, what does Obama have to do with this?

 

Trogs, you need to understand the affliction that is known as ODS.  Gweeds is a clinical study in it.  You can usually tell an ODS sufferer.  He usually has his primary bookmark someone on the freerepublic.com website and/or Fox News.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Conan71 on July 03, 2009, 08:33:01 PM
Quote from: Trogdor on July 03, 2009, 06:11:47 PM
First, He didn't quit, he still made most of the votes  (Barack Obama missed 314 of 1300 roll call votes (24%) since Jan 6, 2005) http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400629&tab=votes (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400629&tab=votes)
Second, He wasn't the ONLY Senator.  Palin was the only Governor...

I also didn't complain that McCain missed votes in the Senate.  The only reason why I mention Palin's absence is because she is quitting.  In the future she will throw up how awesome she was as the Governor of Alaska when she only was really acting as Gov. for 2 out of the 4 years. 

Besides, what does Obama have to do with this?

 

Yeah, but she could practically see Russia for those two years.  ;)
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: RecycleMichael on July 03, 2009, 09:43:16 PM
scandal coming out very soon...she had her house built for free by a guy who got a big state contract
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: we vs us on July 03, 2009, 10:51:44 PM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on July 03, 2009, 09:43:16 PM
scandal coming out very soon...she had her house built for free by a guy who got a big state contract

I have no idea where you're getting this, but it seems entirely plausible. The whole thing was so rushed, so slipshod and so incoherent she had to be getting out in front of something that's about to drop.  Otherwise, why rush out the door in the middle of your term? And so long before she needs to get started for 2012. 
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: FOTD on July 03, 2009, 11:58:03 PM
Nope. the older daughter had the 3 year old with downs. Mom shilled for her......

She will be signed by Rupert next week. Just watch.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Conan71 on July 04, 2009, 06:47:30 AM
Quote from: FOTD on July 03, 2009, 11:58:03 PM
Nope. the older daughter had the 3 year old with downs. Mom shilled for her......

She will be signed by Rupert next week. Just watch.

...and President Obama does not have a birth certificate because he was born in Indonesia

(http://www.tfhp.org/images/tinfoil-hat.jpg)
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: TURobY on July 04, 2009, 08:56:05 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on July 04, 2009, 06:47:30 AM
...and President Obama does not have a birth certificate because he was born in Indonesia

He does, it's just in the Muslim-speak or sumthin'. The certificate ain't in real 'merican.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Conan71 on July 04, 2009, 09:06:27 AM
Quote from: TURobY on July 04, 2009, 08:56:05 AM
He does, it's just in the Muslim-speak or sumthin'. The certificate ain't in real 'merican.

:D
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: guido911 on July 04, 2009, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: we vs us on July 03, 2009, 10:51:44 PM
I have no idea where you're getting this, but it seems entirely plausible. The whole thing was so rushed, so slipshod and so incoherent she had to be getting out in front of something that's about to drop.  Otherwise, why rush out the door in the middle of your term? And so long before she needs to get started for 2012. 

Then why did she not resign and walk away yesterday? CNN thinks she is pregnant or something:

Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: rwarn17588 on July 05, 2009, 01:01:46 PM
My favorite of that weird press conference was this:

"It may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: 'Sit down and shut up', but that's the worthless, easy path; that's a quitter's way out."

So she avoids being a quitter by ... quitting.  :D

And any of those fools who think she's still a viable presidential candidate after this are high. Nobody ups and inexplicably quits in the middle of his or her term and maintains any sort of national credibility. Even if she runs, her GOP opponents are going to rip her to shreds. "How do we know she won't quit in the middle of the presidency if things get tough?" "Her actions call her mental toughness in question." "We need someone in the presidency who's shown a track record of sticking with it when times get tough."
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Conan71 on July 05, 2009, 01:24:53 PM
I really don't see her as being relevant for anything other than an RNC fund-raiser.  I want whatever she's smoking or drinking if she thinks she's got a shot at the POTUS nomination in '12.  I like her, but this episode set my flake-o-meter spinning.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on July 05, 2009, 06:41:28 PM
I am pretty pissed off.  I downloaded the Sarah Palin I-Phone app... Everytime somebody says something bad about it online, it just quits....
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Hoss on July 05, 2009, 08:49:39 PM
Quote from: Trogdor on July 05, 2009, 06:41:28 PM
I am pretty pissed off.  I downloaded the Sarah Palin I-Phone app... Everytime somebody says something bad about it online, it just quits....

+1  That's pretty funny.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Steve on July 05, 2009, 09:32:17 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on July 05, 2009, 01:24:53 PM
I really don't see her as being relevant for anything other than an RNC fund-raiser.  I want whatever she's smoking or drinking if she thinks she's got a shot at the POTUS nomination in '12.  I like her, but this episode set my flake-o-meter spinning.

I agree (although I don't like her.)  Lots of people, even the GOP mouthpieces, are saying the same thing.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: cannon_fodder on July 06, 2009, 08:35:25 AM
Three scenarios:

1) Big scandal coming in a couple months or so.  Enough time to let her slip away a little bit before it comes down.  Her hope being she is a nobody by then and no one cares.  Her political future over anyway, she may as well save face.

2) She has a lucrative job lined up outside of government or otherwise sees dollar $igns.  Knowing she had no real shot of being elected, she's taking the cash while it is there.

3) She's crazy / she thinks this is a good political move.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on July 06, 2009, 08:53:03 AM
Quote from: cannon_fodder on July 06, 2009, 08:35:25 AM
Three scenarios:

1) Big scandal coming in a couple months or so.  Enough time to let her slip away a little bit before it comes down.  Her hope being she is a nobody by then and no one cares.  Her political future over anyway, she may as well save face.

2) She has a lucrative job lined up outside of government or otherwise sees dollar $igns.  Knowing she had no real shot of being elected, she's taking the cash while it is there.

3) She's crazy / she thinks this is a good political move.


If she is going to run in 2012 I would think it would be great of her to announce her candidacy and then resign as Gov.  The issue here is that all she did was say that you will hear things about me in the news, etc, etc.  If she announced then resigned it would look so much better.  In fact, even if she wasn't going to run for office in 2012 REALLY.  It would look way better than just quitting like this.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: waterboy on July 06, 2009, 08:53:40 AM
Always go with the money CF.
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Steve on July 06, 2009, 10:06:54 AM
I think there are only 3 legitimate reasons for a public official to resign his office before the end of their term.

1.  The guy's a crook, and receives or faces felony conviction or impeachment.
2.  Severe health crisis that prevents the person from properly carrying out his duties.
3.  Appointment to a higher office.  To resign just to run for a higher office may be OK in some circumstances if the campaign season is imminent, but that can be stretching it.

To resign for any other reason (or no solid reason as Palin did) is a violation of public trust, shows the person to be a welsher, and severely lacking in character.  People who resign public office early for no valid reason should be barred from running for any public office for 10 years.  All my opinion, of course.

Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on July 06, 2009, 10:10:59 AM
Maybe she is being blackmailed
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: FOTD on July 06, 2009, 10:15:21 AM
Quote from: Trogdor on July 06, 2009, 10:10:59 AM
Maybe she is being blackmailed

Oh, that's rich...

Try this humor!
Title: Re: Palin Steps Down
Post by: FOTD on July 06, 2009, 10:19:30 AM
This one's good too.....