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Title: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: RecycleMichael on July 02, 2009, 08:45:01 AM
I heard we was getting his picture taken in front of city hall today...
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: pmcalk on July 02, 2009, 09:07:15 AM
Yesterday.  I have heard from more than one person that they saw him gettiing his picture taken yesterday. 
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: Conan71 on July 02, 2009, 09:08:51 AM
Mudschlock must have pretty thick skin.  He's going to find out once again he's not relevant to very many people in Tulsa. 
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: swake on July 02, 2009, 09:47:23 AM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on July 02, 2009, 08:45:01 AM
I heard we was getting his picture taken in front of city hall today...

God I hope so, we need some more comedy around here.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: FOTD on July 02, 2009, 10:02:43 AM
This must make Hates Bappy.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: TURobY on July 02, 2009, 10:06:43 AM
Chris Who?  :P
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: swake on July 02, 2009, 10:07:48 AM
Quote from: TURobY on July 02, 2009, 10:06:43 AM
Chris Who?  :P

You know, the guy with the MBA, oh wait.....nevermind
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: TURobY on July 02, 2009, 10:12:32 AM
Quote from: swake on July 02, 2009, 10:07:48 AM
You know, the guy with the MBA, oh wait.....nevermind
MBA? That's old-hat. Even I have one, and I'm not even 25 yet. Does that mean that I'm "over-qualified"?
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: swake on July 02, 2009, 10:14:55 AM
Quote from: TURobY on July 02, 2009, 10:12:32 AM
MBA? That's old-hat. Even I have one, and I'm not even 25 yet. Does that mean that I'm "over-qualified"?

Are you sure you have an MBA? You might want to check that you completed all the coursework, you could be confused over that. It happens.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: rwarn17588 on July 02, 2009, 11:04:16 AM
He must be a glutton for punishment.

After all, he spent weeks on the radio talking about that preposterous Obama birth certificate conspiracy. Anyone who wastes that much oxygen on an "issue" has a credibility problem, to say the least.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: Conan71 on July 02, 2009, 11:07:53 AM
This is funny as smile from Mudschlock's blog:

(if the graphic does not print, it's a KRMG poll and shows Mudschlock getting 24% of the vote as mayor, more than any other GOP contender)

No frakking way, Chris, keep dreaming and keep stuffing those straw poll boxes.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: rwarn17588 on July 02, 2009, 11:13:14 AM
Hey, Chris, how's that Great Plains investigation going?  :D
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: tim huntzinger on July 04, 2009, 07:36:32 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on July 02, 2009, 11:07:53 AM
This is funny as smile from Mudschlock's blog:

(if the graphic does not print, it's a KRMG poll and shows Mudschlock getting 24% of the vote as mayor, more than any other GOP contender)

No frakking way, Chris, keep dreaming and keep stuffing those straw poll boxes.

I hope he runs, too bad he telegraphed his intentions so early because that same disaffected group of know nothings who supported him last time are just itching to strike back at the elitist insiders.  Shoe-in for the primary.  Is not who I will support or vote for, but good for him.  Surprised at how spiteful so many of the posters are here towards him.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: MDepr2007 on July 06, 2009, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: rwarn17588 on July 02, 2009, 11:04:16 AM
He must be a glutton for punishment.

After all, he spent weeks on the radio talking about that preposterous Obama birth certificate conspiracy. Anyone who wastes that much oxygen on an "issue" has a credibility problem, to say the least.

You didn't have anything better to do or are you a closet fan ::)
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: zstyles on July 07, 2009, 03:18:45 PM
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090707_11_0_Former369971

Former Tulsa councilor, radio talk show host may enter mayoral race

Former City Councilor and radio talk show host Chris Medlock will announce whether he will run for mayor at a 10 a.m. Wednesday press conference at the Tulsa Press Club.

Medlock, a Republican who served as councilor from 2003 to 2006 and defeated a recall attempt, has previously expressed an interest in the race.

Medlock, 51, made an unsuccessful bid for the office in 2006, but failed to capture the GOP nomination from then incumbent Mayor Bill LaFortune, who was ultimately beat by Democrat Mayor Kathy Taylor.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: Townsend on July 07, 2009, 03:35:18 PM
Quote from: zstyles on July 07, 2009, 03:18:45 PM
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090707_11_0_Former369971

Former City Councilor and radio talk show host Chris Medlock will announce whether he will run for mayor at a 10 a.m. Wednesday press conference at the Tulsa Press Club.


Is he calling the conference at the press club in the hopes that someone from the press will be there for a late breakfast?
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: Conan71 on July 07, 2009, 03:37:41 PM
I like:

"Chris Medlock will announce whether he will run for mayor at a 10 a.m. "

Well Duh.

Mudschlock will be humiliated.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: tim huntzinger on July 08, 2009, 07:03:20 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on July 07, 2009, 03:37:41 PM
I like:

"Chris Medlock will announce whether he will run for mayor at a 10 a.m. "

Well Duh.

Mudschlock will be humiliated.

I will be there for the announcement and to pledge my support if he chooses to run.  He will win the primary.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: swake on July 08, 2009, 08:27:32 AM
Quote from: Know Nothing on July 08, 2009, 07:03:20 AM
I will be there for the announcement and to pledge my support if he chooses to run.  He will win the primary.

Of course you will support him dear, you two share tinfoil hats, histrionics and only a nodding relationship with truthfulness.

As for winning the primary, sure he will.  Um, did I ever tell you that you Dear Sir, are related to a Nigerian prince and there's this sum of money......
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: tim huntzinger on July 08, 2009, 09:35:11 AM
Quote from: swake on July 08, 2009, 08:27:32 AM
Of course you will support him dear, you two share tinfoil hats, histrionics and only a nodding relationship with truthfulness.

As for winning the primary, sure he will.  Um, did I ever tell you that you Dear Sir, are related to a Nigerian prince and there's this sum of money......


No, but tell me more of your lies!  That is all you know how to do!  At least Chris is not afraid to stick his neck out and bang on the table a few times.  Who do you know that is threatened by Medlock's inquiries into the cesspool of corruption in our fair town?
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: swake on July 08, 2009, 10:12:15 AM
Quote from: Know Nothing on July 08, 2009, 09:35:11 AM
No, but tell me more of your lies!  That is all you know how to do!  At least Chris is not afraid to stick his neck out and bang on the table a few times.  Who do you know that is threatened by Medlock's inquiries into the cesspool of corruption in our fair town?

You never disappoint do you?

Tell me, when is the fair good knight Medlock going to release that report on Great Plains he spent so much time and money on?
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: tim huntzinger on July 08, 2009, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: swake on July 08, 2009, 10:12:15 AM
You never disappoint do you?

Tell me, when is the fair good knight Medlock going to release that report on Great Plains he spent so much time and money on?

So someone involved with GPA?  Is that why your are so angry? Why the vitriol toward our Paladdin?  I tried to bait him into going in that direction by asking him how he was going to do an end-run around the entrenched corruption, the derision of the Tulsa World, and in an environment where the last time he was in office the President of the Chamber of Criminals (but I said 'Commerce') called him a Nazi.  He basically said by going to the people through the internet, which was weird, because I identified myself as a concerned citizen and blogger and he never asked for my blog name or afterward invite me to volunteer. Further, he never smiled.  He said he used his radio program as focus group of sorts.

He promised a focus on changing the strong-mayor form of government, hiring a city manager, working toward repledging V2025 moneys(ies?) toward public safety, developing more of SW Tulsa and the peripheries to compete with the Burbs, and moving the focus away from downtown.  He seems to have two strong backers in the 'Branson Landing' folk and some Sooner Development companies, who he mentioned numerous times. He derided the midtown money belt numerous times, and alluded to Mr. Bartlett as the progeny of a powerful political family and to Mayor Taylor as a 'millionaire.'

I retract my belief that he will win the primary until I hear more from Mr. Bartlett.  In full disclosure, I pledged $20 toward Chris' campaign. 
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: rwarn17588 on July 08, 2009, 11:37:24 AM
Tim, I'm going to repeat something that you may have missed on this board from a few years back.

A middle-aged woman I know who is a conservative and a Republican voter told me this directly a few years ago: "Chris Medlock is too immature to be mayor."

I think that in a nutshell gets at the crux of his problem. Yes, he may have a good idea or two. But he also gets distracted by silly, inconsequential and even borderline-insane ideas that wreck his credibility.

Chris shoots his mouth off way too much and alienates people when he could be building much-needed alliances. He is terrible at picking his battles. And don't get me started on his smugness.

(On an aside, it's also not smart to endorse an incompetent mayor such as Bill LaFortune after saying for months how incompetent he is. That tells me he's more interested in being a partisan than helping the greater good. If LaFortune stunk and you don't care for Taylor, don't endorse anyone.)

Anyone who confidently predicts him winning a primary against a well-established and respected name such as Dewey Bartlett isn't looking too much at the bigger picture. Even if Medlock squeaks by in the primary, he's going to get crushed by Adelson in the general.

Maybe Medlock will surprise me and start acting like a statesman and not a yahoo. Maybe he will turn over a new leaf and gain support from a wide range of the community. But I'll believe that when I see it.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: Conan71 on July 08, 2009, 01:22:29 PM
Mudschlock showed too much of his underbelly the last couple of years on the radio.  He's un-electable in a city-wide election or for anything above that.  Maybe could pull off a state house district, but I even doubt that anymore.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: Wrinkle on July 08, 2009, 01:41:28 PM
LMAO, funny stuff here.

.....are ya sceerrred??

God forbid a peoples' representative getting elected.

Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: Townsend on July 08, 2009, 01:52:13 PM
Quote from: Wrinkle on July 08, 2009, 01:41:28 PM
God forbid a peoples' representative getting elected.



Which people's?  Who does he represent?
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: guido911 on July 08, 2009, 02:05:48 PM
Quote from: Wrinkle on July 08, 2009, 01:41:28 PM
LMAO, funny stuff here.

.....are ya sceerrred??

God forbid a peoples' representative getting elected.



Come on Wrink, don't you remember that playing hooky at Arby's stunt he pulled while a councilor? How about the lame excuse for not completing his MBA (which was his only cred)? I agree with RW and conman on this one. Move on Mr. Medlock.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: tim huntzinger on July 08, 2009, 02:21:49 PM
Quote from: rwarn17588 on July 08, 2009, 11:37:24 AM
Tim, I'm going to repeat something that you may have missed on this board from a few years back.

A middle-aged woman I know who is a conservative and a Republican voter told me this directly a few years ago: "Chris Medlock is too immature to be mayor."

I think that in a nutshell gets at the crux of his problem. Yes, he may have a good idea or two. But he also gets distracted by silly, inconsequential and even borderline-insane ideas that wreck his credibility.

Chris shoots his mouth off way too much and alienates people when he could be building much-needed alliances. He is terrible at picking his battles. And don't get me started on his smugness.

(On an aside, it's also not smart to endorse an incompetent mayor such as Bill LaFortune after saying for months how incompetent he is. That tells me he's more interested in being a partisan than helping the greater good. If LaFortune stunk and you don't care for Taylor, don't endorse anyone.)

Anyone who confidently predicts him winning a primary against a well-established and respected name such as Dewey Bartlett isn't looking too much at the bigger picture. Even if Medlock squeaks by in the primary, he's going to get crushed by Adelson in the general.

Maybe Medlock will surprise me and start acting like a statesman and not a yahoo. Maybe he will turn over a new leaf and gain support from a wide range of the community. But I'll believe that when I see it.

Didn't recall what your GOP Cassandra was quoted as saying way back when, and though you do not need my validation, I think your take is spot-on - with the exception of the 'insane' inference. Careful!

I think that Mr. Bartlett will have more friends with deeper pockets than Chris, and this universally means that he will win.  He may not even have to spend as much as he thinks he does to do so.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: waterboy on July 08, 2009, 07:40:45 PM
You guys are talking nuts and bolts politics. I'll venture a guess from a more marketing, gutteral perception. He can't smile. He can't be funny. He can't connect with the common man. He may not have a Masters, but he behaved as though he was top of the Master's program. Just like me, he is passionate in an irritating way. ;)

If it hadn't been for major mishandling by the republican's in the last election, LaFortunate would still be mayor. Remember, he still showed up strong and was held back by Miller jumping in and siphoning off support.

This is not a city who likes smart asses. He reminds me somewhat of Terry Young gone republican.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: tim huntzinger on July 10, 2009, 06:59:14 AM
Quote from: waterboy on July 08, 2009, 07:40:45 PM
You guys are talking nuts and bolts politics. I'll venture a guess from a more marketing, gutteral perception. He can't smile. He can't be funny. He can't connect with the common man. He may not have a Masters, but he behaved as though he was top of the Master's program. Just like me, he is passionate in an irritating way. ;)

If it hadn't been for major mishandling by the republican's in the last election, LaFortunate would still be mayor. Remember, he still showed up strong and was held back by Miller jumping in and siphoning off support.

This is not a city who likes smart asses. He reminds me somewhat of Terry Young gone republican.

Waaaaahhhhhh you said 'asses'! Waaaaaaaahhhh! I object! I object! Ha ha ha!

The GOP did not mishandle the last election, it was abandoned by all the midtown moderates and conservative hard-liners elsewhere.  Taylor was clearly more articulate, hard-working, than Mayor Bill and moved the agenda of T-town's hidden elite forward faster than BL.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: waterboy on July 10, 2009, 07:28:14 AM
You, know, that's the other thing that will sink his candidacy. This assertion that there is some sort of mid town elite who supports downtown issues above all else. By demonizing groups of people, by geography of all things, he paints himself as a conspiracy nutbag. And one would surmise he would stop this evil downtown development movement in its tracks, wasting our investment. In the words of our former leader, he is a divider, not a uniter.

Sorry for the offensive reference to Terry Young. Is smart-aleck more acceptable? :)
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: rwarn17588 on July 10, 2009, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: waterboy on July 10, 2009, 07:28:14 AM
You, know, that's the other thing that will sink his candidacy. This assertion that there is some sort of mid town elite who supports downtown issues above all else. By demonizing groups of people, by geography of all things, he paints himself as a conspiracy nutbag.

Not to mention that demonizing Midtown is stupid if you want to win an election. If you look at the sheer number of votes coming out of that area during any citywide election, it becomes readily apparent that you need Midtown to win anything.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: Hawkins on July 11, 2009, 03:39:01 AM
If he gets elected I'll buy every member of this forum a burger at McNellies.

Then I'll move out of Tulsa, ASAP.

But seriously, you guys can hold me up to that first pledge, because it isn't going to happen.

Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: highroadtaker on July 11, 2009, 09:43:39 AM
I'd love to have a free McNellie's burger, but it ain't gonna happen.  Even if Medlock beats Bartlett in the primary (that's not gonna happen), most of Bartlett's people would vote for Adelson in the general election.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: Conan71 on July 11, 2009, 11:20:08 AM
Quote from: Hawkins on July 11, 2009, 03:39:01 AM
If he gets elected I'll buy every member of this forum a burger at McNellies.

Then I'll move out of Tulsa, ASAP.

But seriously, you guys can hold me up to that first pledge, because it isn't going to happen.



If it happens make the offer only good on Weds. night.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: TURobY on July 11, 2009, 01:40:08 PM
Clay Clark is suspending his campaign, and is going to join the Medlock team. Apparently, they agree on nearly every issue facing the city of Tulsa and, according to Clark, he believed that they "would split the truly conservative vote, which would lead to the Mayor Taylor supporting candidate (Mr. Bartlett) being elected, and that would be like voting for Kathy Taylor Part 2."
http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=10706911 (http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=10706911)
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: OpenYourEyesTulsa on July 11, 2009, 01:59:50 PM
I thought Clark was a good guy.  This proves that he was not in it for the glory or to become a career politician just like he said.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: Conan71 on July 12, 2009, 11:15:51 AM
Quote from: OpenYourEyesTulsa on July 11, 2009, 01:59:50 PM
I thought Clark was a good guy.  This proves that he was not in it for the glory or to become a career politician just like he said.

Not necessarily.  It could prove he's a Medlock groupie or got intimidated out of the race.
Title: Re: Chris Medlock running?
Post by: rwarn17588 on July 12, 2009, 12:48:27 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on July 12, 2009, 11:15:51 AM
It could prove he's a Medlock groupie ...

Like a Pamela Des Barres?

Ugggg. I've now got images in my head that I'm going to have to scrub away with bleach and an SOS pad.