Oklahoma Senator Inhofe ripped Obama As 'Un-American,' suggesting "he's" on the side of terrorists. Why don't we just quarantine Oklahoma as our very own deranged colony. We have politicians that are so vile, they make the Neo-Confederates look reasonable.
He's made Oklahomans the laughing stock of the country. Is it no wonder our children leave never to return.
READ THE HUNDRED'S OF COMMENTS. Not very Chamber of Commerce like, Dimmy.
Dimmy Inhofe, show some reason. If this were a leftie making these accusations, the wingnuts would be calling "TREASON" and insisting on resignation. Inhofe has gotten past the point of disgraceful and now sits at the top of Dumbf#ckistan.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/05/obama-muslim-speech-inhofe/
Ohhhhhh noooooo he did not say O was unamerican, he said the speech was unamerican. What a huge difference. How could anyone ever misinterpret that? Sheesh!!
Ha. This POS does more to stink up our reputation than everything combined. And many citizens wonder "why do our kids go off to college never to return?" Because they're not taking a part in idiot America. That's why....
Inhofe: If GOP Can 'Stall' Or 'Block' Health Care Reform, It Will Be 'A Huge Gain' For The 2010 Electionshttp://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/23/inhofe-health-huge-gain/
Last week, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) set off a political storm when he said that if Republicans can defeat health care reform it would be President Obama's "Waterloo" because it would "break him." Since then, some Republicans have sought to distance themselves from DeMint's view that defeating health care would yield political advantages for the GOP.
But Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) isn't shying away from revealing his honest feelings. Appearing on Janet Parshall's radio show yesterday, Inhofe argued that the defeat of President Clinton's health care reform "started the demise of Bill Clinton that led to the 1994 Republican takeover of the House and the Senate." He then added that he is now "tracking the demise" of Obama's health care plans and it is making him "optimistic":
INHOFE: They ought to know, they ought to know from history. This is a losing proposition for them. And for those out there who believe, that would like to have something optimistic to look at, we are plotting the demise on a week by week basis of where Bill Clinton was in 1993 and where Obama is today and his demise ratio is greater than Clinton's was in 1993. So, he's trying to do the same things, except more extreme.
Inhofe also appeared on Hugh Hewitt's radio show yesterday, where he was asked if Republicans had the votes "to block health care, the radical stuff in the Senate." Inhofe said he thought they did:
INHOFE: Oh, I think so. I really do. In fact, there'll be a lot of Democrats. You know, I liken it to the cap and trade thing. Now that's the one that I've been kind of in charge of for ten years, and we know where we are on that now. We know that if, as long as people keep talking the way they are right now, we're going to defeat it. They only have 34 votes. They need 60 votes. I'd say health care right now is somewhere in the neighborhood of, they have maybe 45 votes. But every day, they lose votes, because people find out what it is, what it's going to do, and what it's not going to do. When you tell people that the mortality rate in Canada is 25% higher for breast cancer, 18% higher for prostate cancer, you know, they say why in the world would we emulate a system like that? This is life threatening. And so we have all the issues on our side on this thing, and I think, you know, I just hope the President keeps talking about it, keeps trying to rush it through. We can stall it. And that's going to be a huge gain for those of us who want to turn this thing over in the 2010 election.
Later in his interview with Hewitt, Inhofe also revealed why the GOP strategy to "slow down" health care is really an effort to "kill it." "If he is unsuccessful — which I anticipate and will predict he is — on getting a vote prior to the August recess, then I would say there's no way in the world they're going to get this done this year," said Inhofe. "And next year would not be any easier."
And President Obama's insistence on health care reform isn't political or politically motivated? Riiiiight.
Quote from: Conan71 on July 24, 2009, 01:10:13 PM
And President Obama's insistence on health care reform isn't political or politically motivated? Riiiiight.
Of course it is!
%75 of America wants him to change our pathetic, corrupt and embarrassing health care system. He is full filling his obligation to those who elected him. You'd understand that CoCo if you weren't such a supporter of a theocracy with totalitarian rule. Majority rules.....
Quote from: FOTD on July 24, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
Ha. This POS does more to stink up our reputation than everything combined. And many citizens wonder "why do our kids go off to college never to return?" Because they're not taking a part in idiot America. That's why....
He must just be stinking up your reputation. Many of us think he's just fine, thank you.
Quote from: Wilbur on July 24, 2009, 01:28:14 PM
He must just be stinking up your reputation. Many of us think he's just fine, thank you.
But why, Burr?
Is it his negativity or his stupidity that corals you with his other discheeples?
What attracts you to his way of thinking? Or do you just feel more comfortable with that ilk?
As long as Senator Inhofe wants to quote statistics like this
Quotethe mortality rate in Canada is 25% higher for breast cancer, 18% higher for prostate cancer,
then why doesn't he include these statistics in his statements? (from Sadly No!)
QuoteCirculatory disease deaths per 100,000:
* Canada: 219
* United States: 265
Child maltreatment deaths per 100,000:
* Canada: 0.7
* United States: 2.2
Digestive disease deaths per 100,000:
* Canada: 17.4
* United States: 20.5
Infant mortality rate per 1,000 live births
* Canada: 5.08
* United States: 6.3
Intestinal diseases death rate
* Canada: 0.3%
* United States: 7.3%
Proability of not reaching age 60:
* Canada: 9.5%
* United States: 12.8%
Respiratory disease child death rate per 100,000
* Canada: 0.62
* United States: 40.43
Heart disease deaths per 100,000:
* Canada: 94.9
* United States: 106.5
HIV deaths per million people:
* Canada: 47.423
* United States: 48.141
Quote from: FOTD on July 24, 2009, 01:25:51 PM
Of course it is!
%75 of America wants him to change our pathetic, corrupt and embarrassing health care system. He is full filling his obligation to those who elected him. You'd understand that CoCo if you weren't such a supporter of a theocracy with totalitarian rule. Majority rules.....
Majority doesn't rule, just special interests with the most at stake and the finest politicians their money can buy.
75% of Americans (dubious number) may want a change in healthcare, but it doesn't mean they all want President Obama's version of it.
Quote from: Conan71 on July 24, 2009, 02:59:36 PM
Majority doesn't rule, just special interests with the most at stake and the finest politicians their money can buy.
75% of Americans (dubious number) may want a change in healthcare, but it doesn't mean they all want President Obama's version of it.
My problem then becomes why doesn't the Congressional members on the other side of this offer up something more than obstructionism. I'm sure there are a few on the right who are working with the majority in good faith, but they are a small minority.
It happens on both sides, though. The party out of power could care less about real change or doing what is right for the people at the expense of trying to gain their political edge back.
The Congress needs an enema, and not just related to healthcare. (sorry for the horrible pun)
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Quote from: Hoss on July 24, 2009, 04:06:11 PM
My problem then becomes why doesn't the Congressional members on the other side of this offer up something more than obstructionism. I'm sure there are a few on the right who are working with the majority in good faith, but they are a small minority.
It happens on both sides, though. The party out of power could care less about real change or doing what is right for the people at the expense of trying to gain their political edge back.
The Congress needs an enema, and not just related to healthcare. (sorry for the horrible pun)
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Any opposing solutions are effectively being squelched, accoring to GOP members:
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2009/July/GOP-Accuses-Dems-of-Muzzling-Debate/
"(Roy) Blunt (R-Mo) is chairman of the House Republicans' Health Care Solutions Group, which has pointedly criticized the Democrats' plans, particularly the "government option" that would set up an as-yet-undefined public entity to compete with insurance companies that run health plans.
The House Republicans also have put forth the outline of their health legislation. Like the Democratic proposals, the GOP plan lists access and affordability as its chief goals. But the GOP plan seeks to keep government out of the health care business.
Congress remains split on how to pay for a health system overhaul and what taxes might need to be raised to cover nearly 50 million uninsured Americans. But nothing divides the political parties more sharply than the government's future role, which will be at the crux of the debate when Congress returns from its July 4 break to take up consequential health care legislation."
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics/story/1307206.html
Dissention is being squelched by the new majority in Congress, that's why you aren't hearing of alternative plans. Congress is being directed to follow the Administration's wishes on crap-n-tax, health care, and stimulus spending pretty much verbatim. The Senate seems to be more moderate. I'm not seeing, reading, or hearing much in the way of bipartisan solutions anymore from the HOR.
Were you aware of this?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/20/republican-health-care-pl_n_205728.html
Probably not because any alternative solutions other than the administration's is going largely ignored by the media. Hell, even the usual house organ players for the RNC are too wrapped up harping about President Obama's "Socialized Health Care" to give much, if any time to alternative proposals which have been put out by GOP members.
This is partisan politics at it's very worst.
Quote from: Conan71 on July 24, 2009, 02:59:36 PM
Majority doesn't rule, just special interests with the most at stake and the finest politicians their money can buy.
75% of Americans (dubious number) may want a change in healthcare, but it doesn't mean they all want President Obama's version of it.
Sorry. FOTD keeps forgetin' Conman is theocratic, not democratic.
Quote from: FOTD on July 24, 2009, 04:43:16 PM
Sorry. FOTD keeps forgetin' Conman is theocratic, not democratic.
Sounds like you prefer totalitarianism, since that's essentially what's going on here with POTUS' health care initiative with no or very little room for dissention.
Quote from: Conan71 on July 24, 2009, 04:47:24 PM
Sounds like you prefer totalitarianism, since that's essentially what's going on here with POTUS' health care initiative with no or very little room for dissention.
You're out of touch.
Quote from: Conan71 on July 24, 2009, 04:21:08 PM
Any opposing solutions are effectively being squelched, accoring to GOP members:
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2009/July/GOP-Accuses-Dems-of-Muzzling-Debate/
"(Roy) Blunt (R-Mo) is chairman of the House Republicans' Health Care Solutions Group, which has pointedly criticized the Democrats' plans, particularly the "government option" that would set up an as-yet-undefined public entity to compete with insurance companies that run health plans.
The House Republicans also have put forth the outline of their health legislation. Like the Democratic proposals, the GOP plan lists access and affordability as its chief goals. But the GOP plan seeks to keep government out of the health care business.
Congress remains split on how to pay for a health system overhaul and what taxes might need to be raised to cover nearly 50 million uninsured Americans. But nothing divides the political parties more sharply than the government's future role, which will be at the crux of the debate when Congress returns from its July 4 break to take up consequential health care legislation."
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics/story/1307206.html
Dissention is being squelched by the new majority in Congress, that's why you aren't hearing of alternative plans. Congress is being directed to follow the Administration's wishes on crap-n-tax, health care, and stimulus spending pretty much verbatim. The Senate seems to be more moderate. I'm not seeing, reading, or hearing much in the way of bipartisan solutions anymore from the HOR.
Were you aware of this?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/20/republican-health-care-pl_n_205728.html
Probably not because any alternative solutions other than the administration's is going largely ignored by the media. Hell, even the usual house organ players for the RNC are too wrapped up harping about President Obama's "Socialized Health Care" to give much, if any time to alternative proposals which have been put out by GOP members.
This is partisan politics at it's very worst.
While the majority of this may be the case, did the Republicans actually expect that they would get concessions after the way they treated the Democrats from 2000-2006? That sound you heard was the other shoe dropping.
Not that I actually approve of what's going on, but it's all political payback. I'm guessing you would have to agree with that, right?
Guys from the (R) saying stuff like 'it will break him' and the like aren't helping their cause either. Especially with all this C Street stuff and the (lack of) morality issues that the party of morality is experiencing right now.
I wish Oklahoma would allow open primaries, because I think both parties are a bit whacked out right now. Maybe I'll join the Whig Party or something...
Quote from: Hoss on July 24, 2009, 07:24:13 PM
Not that I actually approve of what's going on, but it's all political payback. I'm guessing you would have to agree with that, right?
How far back does one go to the "starting point"? Muslims go back the Crusades. Christians say the Muslims were invading Europe. Democrats go back to the latest Republican control. Republicans go back to the latest Democrats control. Where is time zero? Who was the first aggressor? It will probably never be resolved.
Quote from: Red Arrow on July 24, 2009, 11:07:58 PM
How far back does one go to the "starting point"? Muslims go back the Crusades. Christians say the Muslims were invading Europe. Democrats go back to the latest Republican control. Republicans go back to the latest Democrats control. Where is time zero? Who was the first aggressor? It will probably never be resolved.
Tit-for-tat is not a good excuse for 300 million Americans to get screwed by 535 legislators, their petty bickering, and media enablers. (speaking to Hoss' post)
One point I disagree with Hoss on is his timeline. You really do have to look back to around Tip O'Neill to see any semblance of respect in partisan politics. Kind of dates back to Watergate if you ask me. I suspect every President from now on will wind up facing sophomoric calls for impeachment at some point. Instead of cooperative politics and governance, it's now spiteful and punitive.
"C" street? Come on man, that's nothing more than character smear from the DNC to take your eyes off what's really going on here.
Quote from: Conan71 on July 25, 2009, 01:14:43 AM
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"C" street? Come on man, that's nothing more than character smear from the DNC to take your eyes off what's really going on here.
Once again, tit for tat. Repubs engaged in these kind of tactics all the time. I mean, really...how bad was it that the executive got a BJ in the oval office? That whole sordid mess cost us, the American taxpayer. Bill lying about it didn't make it any better, but he also had the Balkans to distract the media from that ball.
And the token right-wingers with their cries of socialism...where's the real rage? Republicans have been really good this cycle to manufacture rage, but only because they lost the legislative and executive branches.
And how about that character smear coming from the 'birthers' who now have that moron Lou Dobbs AND Rushbo in their camp? Lou may not even know he's propogating it. And Rush may be Gweed's father for all I know.
FWIW I think you guys have it backwards. The politicians aren't leading the populace with their petty bickering, sophomoric behavior, greed, immorality, manufactured rage, etc. They are representative of it.
It comes from the people and is magnified in the press. It is generated in coffee shops, machine shops, bars, churches, blogs, forums, clubs, schools and the workplace. The incivility you see in Congress is the result of grass roots growth fertilized with ignorance and left unmowed.
The ugly truth is that those awful characteristics describe American behavior now. These congressmen are not leaders, they are followers.
Quote from: waterboy on July 25, 2009, 09:07:27 AM
FWIW I think you guys have it backwards. The politicians aren't leading the populace with their petty bickering, sophomoric behavior, greed, immorality, manufactured rage, etc. They are representative of it.
It comes from the people and is magnified in the press. It is generated in coffee shops, machine shops, bars, churches, blogs, forums, clubs, schools and the workplace. The incivility you see in Congress is the result of grass roots growth fertilized with ignorance and left unmowed.
The ugly truth is that those awful characteristics describe American behavior now. These congressmen are not leaders, they are followers.
NOOOOOO!!!! Not the machine shops and bars!!!!!!
Hoss....you can't join the whigs because they're old hat.
But FOTD will be starting a new party....the Whacks. Everybody will claim affiliation!
Quote from: Conan71 on July 25, 2009, 10:32:19 AM
NOOOOOO!!!! Not the machine shops and bars!!!!!!
'fraid so, Con. Course, they are both the same population. ;)
Quote from: Hoss on July 25, 2009, 02:12:10 AM
And Rush may be Gweed's father for all I know.
inspite of his shouting and trying to over talk, I sort of like the Guido911. He is single minded yes, but if you ask a direct question he will try to answer it the best he can. I do not agree with his politics but he has treated me fairly sometimes.
Quote from: joiei on July 25, 2009, 07:32:33 PM
inspite of his shouting and trying to over talk, I sort of like the Guido911. He is single minded yes, but if you ask a direct question he will try to answer it the best he can. I do not agree with his politics but he has treated me fairly sometimes.
You've been treated fairly!?!?!?! We need to fix that!!! ;)