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Title: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Breadburner on March 07, 2009, 10:17:49 PM
What say you.......
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 08, 2009, 10:37:46 AM
What is this QT thing you speak of?
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Breadburner on March 08, 2009, 02:04:03 PM
QT expanding at 36th and Peoria.....
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: godboko71 on March 08, 2009, 06:36:22 PM
I thought they where building a new one up the street. Would seem silly to expand the current one.
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: YoungTulsan on March 08, 2009, 10:43:53 PM
Do they need it?  Yes.

Do you know something I don't and they are about to execute an expansion?

Where/how, did they buy a couple of houses behind the property ala 21st & Harvard?
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: TheArtist on March 09, 2009, 10:42:20 AM
Dont remember exactly whats around that one. But that is pretty much the heart of pedestrian friendly Brookside. Would rather it not be expanded. Would hope that area would continue to become more pedestrian friendly, not less.  You know, these areas quite easily be destroyed. Especially small ones like this that become popular. Developers may see its a busy area and want to go in there, but if they build their usual suburban model type stuff, they can make a mess of it.   

There is a new dentists office going in close to 15th and Peoria. One of those Italian things. Just had to stick his danged parking in front instead of in back.  A. He is stupid for doing it and I hope the trend does not continue with other developments. B. How do these things still get approved in these areas that we should be wanting to encourage as attractive, urban and pedestrian friendly?

I just don't understand?

Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: sauerkraut on March 09, 2009, 11:54:11 AM
It is a tight fit. QT needs to expand or close down and move to a larger location.
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: carltonplace on March 09, 2009, 03:49:22 PM
If those are the choices I'll take move please, but I don't think that is the one that QT has in mind.
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: BierGarten on March 09, 2009, 04:03:41 PM
1. That QT is the most convenient gas station for many mid-town Tulsa residents and I imagine the majority (including me) enjoy that location where it is.

2. How does the location of the QT make Brookside a less "pedestrian friendly" place to be?  Cars are turning in and out of there?  Is that it?  I don't understand.  Cars turn in and out of The Brooke and Sharky's and Crow Creek and Starbuck's and on and on and on and on and on.  QT is just another place cars turn in and out of.  If you are walking on a sidewalk or crossing Peoria at a light, this QT should not be a problem (and it simply just isn't).  I jog near and by there all the time.  It doesn't bother me in the slightest.

3. QT is awesome.
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Gaspar on March 09, 2009, 04:12:32 PM
I bet that QT gets as much foot traffic as vehicle traffic.  That QT and the one on Denver are not only pedestrian friendly, but pedestrian hang-outs.

I don't think I have ever seen a QT that was not "pedestrian friendly" or just friendly in general.  Beats the heck out of 99.999% of other convenience/fuel stores.

Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Nik on March 09, 2009, 04:35:20 PM
Quote from: godboko71 on March 08, 2009, 06:36:22 PM
I thought they where building a new one up the street. Would seem silly to expand the current one.

Are you referring to the one at I-44 & Peoria? I think that is on hold indefinitely until all the construction plays out. Also, I would think the QT at 46th & Peoria would interfere with the new one more than the one at 36th.
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: joiei on March 09, 2009, 06:46:53 PM
Quote from: BierGarten on March 09, 2009, 04:03:41 PM
1. That QT is the most convenient gas station for many mid-town Tulsa residents and I imagine the majority (including me) enjoy that location where it is.

2. How does the location of the QT make Brookside a less "pedestrian friendly" place to be?  Cars are turning in and out of there?  Is that it?  I don't understand.  Cars turn in and out of The Brooke and Sharky's and Crow Creek and Starbuck's and on and on and on and on and on.  QT is just another place cars turn in and out of.  If you are walking on a sidewalk or crossing Peoria at a light, this QT should not be a problem (and it simply just isn't).  I jog near and by there all the time.  It doesn't bother me in the slightest.

3. QT is awesome.
This is the QT where I most often go to get my 32oz cup of unsweet iced tea when running errands. 
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Gaspar on March 09, 2009, 06:51:06 PM
They have good ice tea. ;D
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: sgrizzle on March 09, 2009, 08:45:37 PM
I'd like them to build a bigger QT but facing West or north. The larger stores have a secondary entrance and they could put it closer to the curbline on peoria.
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: swake on March 09, 2009, 11:17:27 PM
I don't really mind a slightly larger QT.

But where can I go to protest the huge ugly power poles AEP put in a few years ago up and down 36th in the Brookside area?
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: sgrizzle on March 10, 2009, 06:35:33 AM
Quote from: swake on March 09, 2009, 11:17:27 PM
I don't really mind a slightly larger QT.

But where can I go to protest the huge ugly power poles AEP put in a few years ago up and down 36th in the Brookside area?

City Hall

The location and nature of the power lines after the brookside construction was up to them.
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Markk on March 10, 2009, 06:59:17 AM
OK--what have you heard about any expansion?
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: TUalum0982 on March 11, 2009, 02:27:39 PM
Quote from: Nik on March 09, 2009, 04:35:20 PM
Are you referring to the one at I-44 & Peoria? I think that is on hold indefinitely until all the construction plays out. Also, I would think the QT at 46th & Peoria would interfere with the new one more than the one at 36th.

This piece of property is up for sale on their website.  It states the following

Deed Restrictions:"Buyer acknowledges and agrees that the Special Warranty Deed conveying the Property to the Buyer shall contain a restriction which shall run with the land prohibiting the use of the Property as a place of adult entertainment, fast food restaurant, retail grocery store, retail convenience grocery store, or for the sale of items commonly sold in a convenience store, including, but not limited to, candy, chips, snacks, coffee, soda and other carbonated beverages, or for the sale of tobacco products, beer, wine, liquor, spirits, adult materials or drug paraphernalia, or for the retail sale of motor fuels. "

Available for ONLY 4.445 Million CASH!
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Townsend on March 11, 2009, 02:35:35 PM
Quote from: TUalum0982 on March 11, 2009, 02:27:39 PM
This piece of property is up for sale on their website.  It states the following

Deed Restrictions:"Buyer acknowledges and agrees that the Special Warranty Deed conveying the Property to the Buyer shall contain a restriction which shall run with the land prohibiting the use of the Property as a place of adult entertainment, fast food restaurant, retail grocery store, retail convenience grocery store, or for the sale of items commonly sold in a convenience store, including, but not limited to, candy, chips, snacks, coffee, soda and other carbonated beverages, or for the sale of tobacco products, beer, wine, liquor, spirits, adult materials or drug paraphernalia, or for the retail sale of motor fuels. "

Available for ONLY 4.445 Million CASH!

So does that mean the QT on 46th will sit as an empty QT for years to come?  The one on 15th and Main looks lovely so super.
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: BierGarten on March 11, 2009, 02:36:50 PM
The "this piece of property" that is being listed for sale on QT's website is the I-44 and Peoria location.  However, I assume that they are not selling the parcel that has been planned for a new store, but rather, they are selling the excess "Camelot" parcel that was purchased when they bought the entire piece.  Notice that they are listing in excess of 4 acres for sale.

http://www.quiktrip.com/realestate/default.asp?MarketID=1&type=2&LocationID=88 (http://www.quiktrip.com/realestate/default.asp?MarketID=1&type=2&LocationID=88)
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Townsend on March 11, 2009, 02:41:11 PM
Quote from: BierGarten on March 11, 2009, 02:36:50 PM
The "this piece of property" that is being listed for sale on QT's website is the I-44 and Peoria location.  However, I assume that they are not selling the parcel that has been planned for a new store, but rather, they are selling the excess "Camelot" parcel that was purchased when they bought the entire piece.  Notice that they are listing in excess of 4 acres for sale.

http://www.quiktrip.com/realestate/default.asp?MarketID=1&type=2&LocationID=88 (http://www.quiktrip.com/realestate/default.asp?MarketID=1&type=2&LocationID=88)

Oh that, my bad.  They are marketing for a hotel last I read...
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Markk on March 11, 2009, 05:16:08 PM
This is a pet peeve of mine--a thread started by an ambiguous post that generates discussion.  If the original poster has information that the 36th and Peoria QT is planning on expanding, let's hear about it.  Don't be cute by posting this kind of message.  From the original post, you can't tell whether the writer has knowledge about plans that are in placd, or whether he/she is fishing for opinions about whether people think it is a good idea.

Get on with it.
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: pfox on March 12, 2009, 08:33:51 PM
I know nothing of this supposed expansion, but here are my two cents....the QT at 36th an Peoria is pedestrian 'friendly' only in the sense that it is on a particularly pedestrian portion of Peoria.  Walking to the intersecton of 36th and Peoria via Peoria, North/South is relatively easy.  Getting to the front door of QT from that location (pick a corner, any corner) is actually quite daunting.  Understanding that there are gas pumps and parking spots in front of the building, I understand that this is not a primarily pedestrian destination.  Just the same, I think it is correct that people do walk and bike to this location, because I do it quite a bit. 

a) there are no sidewalks on 36th street, either side.  This would relieve most of the issue.  Right now, I have to push my kid in his stoller diagonally across the most dangerous place in Tulsa: a QuikTrip parking lot....sure, this is hyperbole to an extent, but my point is...there are lots of cars, and the average stay at QT has to be under 10 minutes (being generous), meaning they are in an out a lot.  Sidewalks on 36th would mean that I could walk to the part of the lot that provides the shortest route across a vehicular pathway. 

b) bike racks.  There are none. Pretty simple solution.

Summary...better pedestrian pathways on the perimeters of the parcel, keep the handicap accessible ramps to the front door...and install bike racks.
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Breadburner on March 13, 2009, 03:31:06 PM
Quote from: Markk on March 11, 2009, 05:16:08 PM
This is a pet peeve of mine--a thread started by an ambiguous post that generates discussion.  If the original poster has information that the 36th and Peoria QT is planning on expanding, let's hear about it.  Don't be cute by posting this kind of message.  From the original post, you can't tell whether the writer has knowledge about plans that are in placd, or whether he/she is fishing for opinions about whether people think it is a good idea.

Get on with it.

Well...You know what they say in the Russian Marines....Toughski $hitski...............Or is it the Polish Marines.......
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Markk on March 17, 2009, 08:52:28 PM
What about changes to the food pyramid at 41st and Peoria?
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Breadburner on April 11, 2009, 01:33:39 PM
The topic has been confirmed....
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Markk on April 11, 2009, 05:37:50 PM
OK-I'll bite.  What have you heard? 
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Breadburner on April 12, 2009, 01:09:09 AM
Quote from: Markk on April 11, 2009, 05:37:50 PM
OK-I'll bite.  What have you heard? 

Can you not read....??
Title: Re: QT expansion 36th and Peoria.....
Post by: Markk on April 12, 2009, 08:45:04 AM
Yes, I can.  Can you?

What have you heard about:

1.  When it will happen
2.  How will it happen (i.e., expanding to the west?)
3.  How long will it take?
4.  Will it be closed during any expansion?

Why do you have to be so obtuse?