Was at Hobby Lobby getting paper and couldn't help but overhear [:P] some people talking in the framing dept. Saw a guy had a large rendering, that I suppose he was getting framed, of an aerial view of a new development going in Jenks. I nonchalantly moseyed over to take a peek. At first I thought it was the River District and that it had been redesigned. The part I had overheard was about the River District "12mill for retaining wall by river, something about a new road and bridge..." But on closer inspection (requiring some serious craning of the neck [8D]) this development was immediately left/south of the lighthouse. Looked to take up the entire area between main street there and the Creek Turnpike and went for at least a couple of blocks west. Looked to be at least 7-10 buildings, several of them perhaps multi-story, and the renderings seemed to indicate some contemporary design. Looked to be a lot of parking too. Sorry couldn't get more than that. Anyone else have any info? Wish I had gotten the company and logo at the bottom of the rendering. Didn't want to seem nosey.[:D]
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Was at Hobby Lobby getting paper and couldn't help but overhear [:P] some people talking in the framing dept. Saw a guy had a large rendering, that I suppose he was getting framed, of an aerial view of a new development going in Jenks. I nonchalantly moseyed over to take a peek. At first I thought it was the River District and that it had been redesigned. The part I had overheard was about the River District "12mill for retaining wall by river, something about a new road and bridge..." But on closer inspection (requiring some serious craning of the neck [8D]) this development was immediately left/south of the lighthouse. Looked to take up the entire area between main street there and the Creek Turnpike and went for at least a couple of blocks west. Looked to be at least 7-10 buildings, several of them perhaps multi-story, and the renderings seemed to indicate some contemporary design. Looked to be a lot of parking too. Sorry couldn't get more than that. Anyone else have any info? Wish I had gotten the company and logo at the bottom of the rendering. Didn't want to seem nosey.[:D]
Good spy work there maynard.
Aren't there existing buildings there?
I would expect some renderings coming through for Riverwalk phase II as well as the residential area adjoining Riverwalk.
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Was at Hobby Lobby getting paper and couldn't help but overhear [:P] some people talking in the framing dept. Saw a guy had a large rendering, that I suppose he was getting framed, of an aerial view of a new development going in Jenks. I nonchalantly moseyed over to take a peek. At first I thought it was the River District and that it had been redesigned. The part I had overheard was about the River District "12mill for retaining wall by river, something about a new road and bridge..." But on closer inspection (requiring some serious craning of the neck [8D]) this development was immediately left/south of the lighthouse. Looked to take up the entire area between main street there and the Creek Turnpike and went for at least a couple of blocks west. Looked to be at least 7-10 buildings, several of them perhaps multi-story, and the renderings seemed to indicate some contemporary design. Looked to be a lot of parking too. Sorry couldn't get more than that. Anyone else have any info? Wish I had gotten the company and logo at the bottom of the rendering. Didn't want to seem nosey.[:D]
It's a new "mixed use" center (it's what I heard, and don't developers say that about all developments anymore?) right across the street from TTCU and the lighthouse.
I don't any specifics beyond "mixed use" on what is going in there but ground work has been going on for some time. A bunch of older houses and businesses have been leveled over the last couple of months and more keep coming down. The site isn't nearly the size of Riverwalk or The River District but it's still looks to be pretty large. I haven't seen any rendering or heard a name yet but it is supposed to be a nice development.
This center is going to do a lot to link the Downtown Jenks, The Riverwalk and The River District/Aquarium area. The city of Jenks is also extending 10th street (the light at the Jenks end of the bridge) right in front of this center to the aquarium so that you don't have to twist around under the Jenks bridge to get the aquarium and the River District.
I've known about this for quite some time. I work with the developer on a number of smaller projects. He hasn't publicized it yet, so I didn't want to say anything about it on here, but since the cat is out of the bag, I'll tell you what I know. He had a design competition last fall - something like 6 or 7 architecture firms from the state competed - Kinslow Keith and Todd of Tulsa had the winning design. They have done lots of 3D development including a computer generated fly through video that will blow your mind. Trust me, I'm an architect, I'm hard to impress, this thing had me excited. THe scope of the project is impressive - much bigger than Riverwalk, similar to River District but perhaps a bit smaller. It will contain offices and retail. I can't remember if there is a residential component or not. The basic design concept is simply to continue the downtown Jenks feeling. It includes the land directly behind the light house, and most of the land west to the frontage road. While there will be a continuation of the downtown Jenks architectural feel in some of the buildings, there is some contemporary mixed in, and I think it looks great.
Now, he hasn't said much about it lately, and I think the trick will be financing. I know back in the late summer and fall he had some substantial financing lined up with investors from out of state. I don't know how the downturn in the economy will affect this.
I will say, of all the development proposals I've seen in the Jenks area, I like this one the best. It's part of the downtown, it's tied into the aquarium, and it will definitely not be as suburban and isolated as River District.
I will talk to the developer sometime this week and see if there is anyway we can get some photoclips from the video. You guys will like it.
It did look rather interesting and different. There was a "flow" to the buildings. Some of them appeared to be curved and aligned/linked to each other. But again, I couldnt see all of it and there were other papers and stuff on top of parts of it. And from the looks of it, yea, they would have to take out quite a few homes and such in that area to fit it in. I do need to work on my spywork skills(I keep forgetting I have a camera on my cell phone) lol. As for financing, if there is any place, any bank or lender might be lending,,, Oklahoma isnt doing terribly bad and most importantly, you would be hard pressed to beat those demographics in that area anywhere. Woodland Hills Mall and "environs" have weathered many a boom and bust, yet keeps on trucking and growing, 30 years on. This area, along with the River District, can be like that. May be shaky in the beginning because of this recession, but its a long term no brainer investment that will continue to pay handsomely decade after decade imo. Get in early, get control of the choice pieces of property, get it started and fill in at your discretion.
Am I a fool for hoping that the river area of Jenks develops into a semi-dense area? A few more developments in that area and they are out of space. Meaning the massive surface parking lots start being attractive for development.
While I would rather see it in Tulsa, specifically Brookside or downtown areas - improvements in the metro area are always warranted.
And Artist: Next time you go spying, when the spy work is done go for broke. After you gained all the covert knowledge you can just ask the guy. He can't take away what you already know. [:D]
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Originally posted by TheArtist
It did look rather interesting and different. There was a "flow" to the buildings. Some of them appeared to be curved and aligned/linked to each other. But again, I couldnt see all of it and there were other papers and stuff on top of parts of it. And from the looks of it, yea, they would have to take out quite a few homes and such in that area to fit it in.
A good chunk has already been cleared....
It's good to hear news on this.. I was starting to wonder if it was another River District or Riverwalk Phase 2... (well, at this point it still is...)
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Am I a fool for hoping that the river area of Jenks develops into a semi-dense area? A few more developments in that area and they are out of space. Meaning the massive surface parking lots start being attractive for development.
While I would rather see it in Tulsa, specifically Brookside or downtown areas - improvements in the metro area are always warranted.
And Artist: Next time you go spying, when the spy work is done go for broke. After you gained all the covert knowledge you can just ask the guy. He can't take away what you already know. [:D]
Duly noted lol. [8D]
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Am I a fool for hoping that the river area of Jenks develops into a semi-dense area? A few more developments in that area and they are out of space. Meaning the massive surface parking lots start being attractive for development.
While I would rather see it in Tulsa, specifically Brookside or downtown areas - improvements in the metro area are always warranted.
And Artist: Next time you go spying, when the spy work is done go for broke. After you gained all the covert knowledge you can just ask the guy. He can't take away what you already know. [:D]
At the same time a bunch of older houses in this area are being scraped and replaced by townhomes and small 2-3 story office buildings.
In downtown Jenks there are schools, banks, churches, a coffee shop, dry cleaners, ice cream shop, liquor store, restaurants, shops, cafes, deli, bars, and salons all in walking distance and less than a half a mile away there's a grocery store and a pharmacy.
Downtown Jenks is actually, get this, walkable and getting denser. It's more dense and walkable than Brookside.
With all this development:
-Riverwalk Crossing
-Aquarium
-the River Disctrict (south of the turnpike)
-the Riverview plaza (north of the lighthouse)
-now this (south of the lighthouse)
-the new Reasors and all the development around it
-on top of their preexisting downtown district
...I'm beginning to think of the pedestrian possibilities. I instantly think of Boulder. I really hope on top of all this connected development, Jenks takes into consideration things such as bike lanes and the such.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Am I a fool for hoping that the river area of Jenks develops into a semi-dense area? A few more developments in that area and they are out of space. Meaning the massive surface parking lots start being attractive for development.
While I would rather see it in Tulsa, specifically Brookside or downtown areas - improvements in the metro area are always warranted.
And Artist: Next time you go spying, when the spy work is done go for broke. After you gained all the covert knowledge you can just ask the guy. He can't take away what you already know. [:D]
At the same time a bunch of older houses in this area are being scraped and replaced by townhomes and small 2-3 story office buildings.
In downtown Jenks there are schools, banks, churches, a coffee shop, dry cleaners, ice cream shop, liquor store, restaurants, shops, cafes, deli, bars, and salons all in walking distance and less than a half a mile away there's a grocery store and a pharmacy.
Downtown Jenks is actually, get this, walkable and getting denser. It's more dense and walkable than Brookside.
Blasphemy! How darest thou![:(!]
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Originally posted by swake
In downtown Jenks there are schools, banks, churches, a coffee shop, dry cleaners, ice cream shop, liquor store, restaurants, shops, cafes, deli, bars, and salons all in walking distance and less than a half a mile away there's a grocery store and a pharmacy.
Downtown Jenks is actually, get this, walkable and getting denser. It's more dense and walkable than Brookside.
It might be a good place to try a (real) trolley.
Keeeewl beans 8) Look what a little birdie sent me.
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http://www.villageonmain.com/
It looks cool but seems to be disconnected from the present Main St. I tried to follow Main St from the clock tower (or whatever it is) at the exit from the bridge to present downtown and it appears to not continue.
Very cool.
You can see the lighthouse at the end of the bridge into Jenks in the center bottom of this image, the street just above the lighthouse is Main. The parking lot in the bottom left of the image is the parking lot for the new Riverview Center that's just starting to open now. The building in the bottom left is TTCU.
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4660/tout4.jpg)
Well, I'd give it a grade of B+. I'd like to see structured parking (lot of surface parking there) and a way to expand the "A" street down sides streets if the need came. I'd also like to see 3 stories for more density.
But in general, an exciting development.
Tulsa: Are you paying attention? When Jenks has better "urban" plan developments on the board than Tulsa, something is wrong.
I always want more density but I think this is a good level for Jenks. I REAALLY like the changes to traffic flow.
I'm wondering why the levy seems to be only 3 ft tall in their renderings...
This might be just what downtown Jenks needs. I have lived in Jenks for about 5 years now and lived in Tulsa longer than that. The antique stores are about 30%-40% vacant now. The retail down there is being converted into office space. Pretty soon there would be no retail in Jenks except for the Riverwalk.
Quote from: Red Arrow on March 11, 2009, 09:46:57 PM
It looks cool but seems to be disconnected from the present Main St. I tried to follow Main St from the clock tower (or whatever it is) at the exit from the bridge to present downtown and it appears to not continue.
This development stops about as far away from where the old downtown begins as the old down town is long... but there is potential to continue it closer or for other redevelopment to occur.
Quote from: cannon_fodder on March 12, 2009, 08:11:08 AM
Well, I'd give it a grade of B+. I'd like to see structured parking (lot of surface parking there) and a way to expand the "A" street down sides streets if the need came. I'd also like to see 3 stories for more density.
But in general, an exciting development.
Tulsa: Are you paying attention? When Jenks has better "urban" plan developments on the board than Tulsa, something is wrong.
Land prices drive height and structured parking and even in Jenks which continues to support some of the strongest prices anywhere in the area they presently do not support it. The good news is that virtually any parking lot has the potential to be a future canidate for increased parking density.
Also, the 2 and possibly 3 largest buildings appear to be at least 3 story.
I don't see the distance from the existing downtown buildings to be a negative at all. As I stated before, the area is being converted over to office buildings anyway.
This apartment building looks five stories tall, and additionally, it looks like they, at least here at these residential buildings, mean to fill the area near the levy so that the building foundation is at the top of the levy.
(http://www.villageonmain.com/images/tout_6.jpg)
That kind of scenario in the above pic is much like what I envision for behind the Riverwalk just behind the berm. Ground level parking even with the berm, then living above. You could walk out your door, over the top of the berm, then down to the Riverwalk and to the trails. Those little houses there now... their days are numbered.
Wow and when?
Jenks is unbeliebable.
The first thing I wanna see is all that green actually happen. All those trees in that area would be very refreshing.
This is a great looking project.
What a perfect site. That area is so underperforming but surrounded by anchors.
I wish them good luck.
From Tulsa World , some more info on this development.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090524_32_A1_Arneig986256
7 buildings 450,000 sq feet. 120,000 sq ft office,,,, 140,000 sq ft of restaurant/retail,,,, 190,000 for hotel and living, including a 120 room hotel and a 100-120- unit apartment building. 1st building to get started will be a medical/office building for Hillcrest, 26,000 sq ft. One building will be for a financial institution and there will also be a parking structure.
Duane Phillips of Oak Properties (is also doing the new development on Cherry Street, Cherry Street Ridge) along with Bob Eggleston the contsruction director for the BOK Center (who is working on developing the hotel/mixed use development across from the arena)
Financed by local Spirit Bank.
I think it's funny they won't disclose the "financial institution"....
What are the odds it's anything but a Spirit bank branch?
Anyone else notice the countdown on the website?? Wonder what this is counting down to.
http://www.villageonmain.com/
Quote from: TurismoDreamin on May 24, 2009, 01:55:47 PM
Anyone else notice the countdown on the website?? Wonder what this is counting down to.
http://www.villageonmain.com/
Perhaps Spirit Banks eventual demise?
I think thats when they have the big unveiling for this development... as in show the general public the pics we scooped on TN months ago. ;)
What happened to ttcu? what happened to the "recession" ???
Quote from: TheArtist on May 24, 2009, 03:45:17 PM
I think thats when they have the big unveiling for this development... as in show the general public the pics we scooped on TN months ago. ;)
Yea, that's what I was thinking too. I drive through Jenks almost daily and noticed that on I think Tuesday, they put up a big billboard sign in front of the development. At the time, you could see the rendering of the development on the sign, but when they finished later on in the day, they covered it up with some black overlay...but you can see one of the corners where a part of the black overlay came off.
Quote from: buzz words on May 25, 2009, 12:47:30 AM
What happened to ttcu? what happened to the "recession" ???
Last time I checked, they were both still around lol.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090602_81_A9_Thisar77908 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090602_81_A9_Thisar77908)
New story, picture and map of the area in today's Tulsa World. Looks and sounds nice.
There is a big Jenks press event at the lighthouse on Friday at 11:30 about this development