I'm strongly considering canceling my cable for at least the spring/summer months.
But I have a few concerns that perhaps someone could help me out with.
*DVR: Not having a DVR is the biggest hurdle for me. I've priced HD DVRs online, and they're very expensive, like hundreds of dollars. If I keep Cox internet, can I keep my DVR? And is it possible to use the DVR to record over the air HDTV? Is there any other way to rent a DVR?
*Reconnection: Is Cox gonna charge some massive fee to reconnect me in six months?
Get a capture card fr your PC. or use online video sites and other more questionable means (torrents) to get your TV fix
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Originally posted by TheTed
I'm strongly considering canceling my cable for at least the spring/summer months.
But I have a few concerns that perhaps someone could help me out with.
*DVR: Not having a DVR is the biggest hurdle for me. I've priced HD DVRs online, and they're very expensive, like hundreds of dollars. If I keep Cox internet, can I keep my DVR? And is it possible to use the DVR to record over the air HDTV? Is there any other way to rent a DVR?
*Reconnection: Is Cox gonna charge some massive fee to reconnect me in six months?
I am not familiar with any of other places to rent a DVR so I can't help you out there....
But in regards, to a reconnect fee, I don't think you will have to pay one. In fact, anybody is elgible for their "specials" if you haven't had service with them within the previous 90 days. So you might actually get a decent deal when you do decide to reconnect.
You might try calling cox customer service (806-6000) and ask them. I am sure they would be willing to answer your questions.
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Originally posted by TheTed
If I keep Cox internet, can I keep my DVR? And is it possible to use the DVR to record over the air HDTV?
Arent Cox's DVR's rented?
Other than a stand-alone DVR like TiVo, buying a tuner adapter for a computer and using DVR software (often included with the tuner) would be a good solution.
Make sure you have a BIG hard drive (externals are fine) and that your tuner will tune digital (ATSC) transmissions.
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Originally posted by TheTed
I'm strongly considering canceling my cable for at least the spring/summer months.
But I have a few concerns that perhaps someone could help me out with.
*DVR: Not having a DVR is the biggest hurdle for me. I've priced HD DVRs online, and they're very expensive, like hundreds of dollars. If I keep Cox internet, can I keep my DVR? And is it possible to use the DVR to record over the air HDTV? Is there any other way to rent a DVR?
You can get a TiVo HD for as little as $200 if you watch their website and catch a refurb deal. They're usually available for $250 new, and almost always available at $300.
I'm considering canceling cable too.
I've been impressed with the changes coming with digital TV broadcasting. That may decide it for me.
I use the earlier version of this on my laptop.
I would think you could use an HDMI connection from a pc to the tv for HD
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I'm a bit out of the loop I am very happy with my 5 year old VCR. Color me old fashioned I guess. I just can't get intrested in this digital craz and HDTV, I like good 'ol fashioned analog TV. IMO digital TV and digital recorders are still too full of bugs and the flat screen TV's don't seem to last very long, most everyone I know who has a flat screen TV has had trouble with it of one kind or another. I'm keeping with CRT sets for the time being.
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Originally posted by sauerkraut
I'm a bit out of the loop I am very happy with my 5 year old VCR. Color me old fashioned I guess. I just can't get intrested in this digital craz and HDTV, I like good 'ol fashioned analog TV. IMO digital TV and digital recorders are still too full of bugs and the flat screen TV's don't seem to last very long, most everyone I know who has a flat screen TV has had trouble with it of one kind or another. I'm keeping with CRT sets for the time being.
Don't forget that converter box; in about a week your outdated CRT TV will be an end table.
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Originally posted by Hoss
Don't forget that converter box; in about a week your outdated CRT TV will be an end table.
He could have a CRT TV with a digital tuner. If they weren't 250 or 300 pounds, I'd probably be the proud owner of a nice widescreen CRT HDTV. A nice Trinitron still has better black levels and dark detail than anything else out there (even a Kuro)
As far as his issue with LCD/Plasma reliability, if he was bright enough not to buy whatever was cheapest at Wal-Mart that day and to actually take care of the thing per the manufacturers instructions, he wouldn't have a problem.
You do have to treat them right, but I recall that being the case back in the 60s and 70s, too. You had to take care of your expensive TV set. Gee, who'dathunkit? Well, you gotta take care of your plasma. LCD is much more fire and forget if you get a decent one.
Thanks for the tips. After getting my latest cable bill, I'm definitely gonna have to do something.
Added side benefit: I can take a step back from the brink of insanity when I stop seeing those nonstop Tulsa gold ads on late night cable TV. That constantly nodding Rick Haugen who drove all the way from Springfield, Mo. appears in my nightmares.
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Originally posted by sauerkraut
I'm a bit out of the loop I am very happy with my 5 year old VCR. Color me old fashioned I guess. I just can't get intrested in this digital craz and HDTV, I like good 'ol fashioned analog TV. IMO digital TV and digital recorders are still too full of bugs and the flat screen TV's don't seem to last very long, most everyone I know who has a flat screen TV has had trouble with it of one kind or another. I'm keeping with CRT sets for the time being.
That makes two of us at least; I couldn't care less about HD either. My 5 year old Panasonic 32" CRT TV still looks great, using a digital converter box for broadcast reception, and I would match it in brightness, contrast, and anything but horizontal resolution against any new HDTV made today. I still can use my old JVC VCR to record broadcast digital, the inconvenience being that I have to leave the converter box on, tuned to the station I want to record, since the converter has no timer. I didn't do much timer recording anyway, so it is not a huge adjustment for me.
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Originally posted by TheTed
Thanks for the tips. After getting my latest cable bill, I'm definitely gonna have to do something.
I don't know what your viewing preferences are, but people often forget that there is a free alternative called broadcast television. I have even encountered some young people today that did not know you could get free TV without paying a monthly bill.
I dumped Tulsa cable back in 1997 (before Cox invaded Tulsa) and have never looked back. You get used to it very quickly, especially not receiving a monthly charge/bill. If it ain't free broadcast, then it ain't worth my effort to watch.
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Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by sauerkraut
I'm a bit out of the loop I am very happy with my 5 year old VCR. Color me old fashioned I guess. I just can't get intrested in this digital craz and HDTV, I like good 'ol fashioned analog TV. IMO digital TV and digital recorders are still too full of bugs and the flat screen TV's don't seem to last very long, most everyone I know who has a flat screen TV has had trouble with it of one kind or another. I'm keeping with CRT sets for the time being.
That makes two of us at least; I couldn't care less about HD either. My 5 year old Panasonic 32" CRT TV still looks great, using a digital converter box for broadcast reception, and I would match it in brightness, contrast, and anything but horizontal resolution against any new HDTV made today. I still can use my old JVC VCR to record broadcast digital, the inconvenience being that I have to leave the converter box on, tuned to the station I want to record, since the converter has no timer. I didn't do much timer recording anyway, so it is not a huge adjustment for me.
I agree, also no flat screen TV can match the color "black", or fast movement as good as a CRT set can. A CRT set also has a brighter picture with a proven history of lasting for decades, I have a 1969 Zenith TV that still works, will a 40 year old plasma, or LCD TV still work in 40 years? I bet not. The LCD TV has light bulbs behind the picture display screen to light up the screen thus the color "black" shows up as being "gray" Fast movement is also a problem for flat/thin screen TV sets I think the Plasma sets show fast movement better than the LCD sets or I may have it backwards, The plasma sets do have deeper colors than the LCD sets. IMO the best buy is the CRT set and soon you won't be able to buy them. The CRT is much cheaper.
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Originally posted by sauerkraut
I agree, also no flat screen TV can match the color "black", or fast movement as good as a CRT set can. A CRT set also has a brighter picture with a proven history of lasting for decades, I have a 1969 Zenith TV that still works, will a 40 year old plasma, or LCD TV still work in 40 years? I bet not. The LCD TV has light bulbs behind the picture display screen to light up the screen thus the color "black" shows up as being "gray" Fast movement is also a problem for flat/thin screen TV sets I think the Plasma sets show fast movement better than the LCD sets or I may have it backwards, The plasma sets do have deeper colors than the LCD sets. IMO the best buy is the CRT set and soon you won't be able to buy them. The CRT is much cheaper.
The CRT will have an advantage in black level over all but the higher-end plasma screens. Both plasma and LCD will utterly destroy nearly any CRT in white level, however. LCD by a mile.
All sets, including my wonderful Sony Trinitron CRT have gray blacks. It's just a matter of degree.
One of my favorite things about my LCD TVs is that the picture quality is much better in a brightly lit room.
And that 40 year old tv that works? Sure, it "works" for the definition of the word that means "functions." It isn't going to function well. Old CRTs have whole lot of issues, ranging from phosphor wear to defocusing, to shadow mask separation. They get darker and fuzzier as they age. Some of it can be fixed (the focus on the electron beams), the rest can't.
It's much easier to replace the backlights on an LCD than it is to replace the entire picture tube on a CRT.
Besides, I've had CRTs give up the ghost after a few years, while I've had others that were built before I was born and are still going strong. They don't all last a long time, we just see the ones that do and think "oh, how reliable those CRTs are," forgetting the millions upon millions that are currently inhabiting our landfills.
Everything has it's "pros" & "Cons". A CRT set is cheap and you get a good picture for the money. The LCD TV has other issues aside from light bulbs being replaced, the "cells" inside the glass wear out and break apart and the picture degrades and "burn-in" is more of a problem in Plasma & LCD TV sets over a CRT set. I understand a LCD set can last for 10,000 hours and a Plasma around 6,000 hours, both sets do not show fast movement as clear as a CRT set. There is something new coming out that I read about in those electronis mags.. it's called "Laser TV" and the picture can blow away any LCD or Plasma screen. The picture is made with 3 laser guns (like in a CRT except it uses lasers instead of electron guns to paint the picture) They say it's as clear as a TV picture can get with millions of color shades and color hues possible. More depth & contrast too. The sets cost about $15,000 but I don't think they are being sold yet.
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Originally posted by sauerkraut
Everything has it's "pros" & "Cons". A CRT set is cheap and you get a good picture for the money. The LCD TV has other issues aside from light bulbs being replaced, the "cells" inside the glass wear out and break apart and the picture degrades and "burn-in" is more of a problem in Plasma & LCD TV sets over a CRT set. I understand a LCD set can last for 10,000 hours and a Plasma around 6,000 hours, both sets do not show fast movement as clear as a CRT set. There is something new coming out that I read about in those electronis mags.. it's called "Laser TV" and the picture can blow away any LCD or Plasma screen. The picture is made with 3 laser guns (like in a CRT except it uses lasers instead of electron guns to paint the picture) They say it's as clear as a TV picture can get with millions of color shades and color hues possible. More depth & contrast too. The sets cost about $15,000 but I don't think they are being sold yet.
Maybe you should try a modern set before talking down about them. Aside from the off-brands, I haven't seen one recently that has an issue with motion blur. And LCDs are much less susceptible to image retention than even CRTs. (I've had plenty over the years with it, both computer monitors and TV sets)
Nor do the liquid crystals themselves degrade, unless perhaps you expose them to extreme heat or cold. Phosphors in both CRTs and Plasma screens degrade significantly. In LCDs, however, the backlight does degrade, although much more slowly than the phosphors in a CRT or plasma.
Both are largely dependent on the contrast setting of the set.
Many new LCD sets use LED backlighting, which does not degrade over time. Those should last essentially forever. (although they won't thanks to no-lead solder's tendency to deteriorate more quickly than leaded solder, but that's a problem in any new electronic device)
Edited to add: Regarding a DVR, if you can find one, Sears has TiVo HDs on closeout for $199 right now. I picked one up today..it was the last one they had at the 15th & Yale store. Now I just have to find a cheap TV to go with it so I can make she-who-shall-not-be-named happy. (she wants a TV she can watch from the kitchen)
No love for DLP?
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
No love for DLP?
I haven't personally used a DLP. Supposedly the three chip models are quite nice, although as with all DLPs, relatively thick.
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Originally posted by inteller
i just got Cox to take $50 off my cable bill. just by calling them and saying that WIndstream is more competitive. Try that route first.
I got a full free year of Cox by doing something similar; something about I could take my business to SBC (this predates the AT&T transition). For 12 straight months they credited me every month.
Until I found out after they would no longer do it they had put a note on my account stating no credits.
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