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Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: altruismsuffers on January 27, 2009, 01:10:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od8bcCvX3jU (//%22http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od8bcCvX3jU%22)

Alex Jones The Obama Deception will be the first hard-hitting film to expose Obama, his agenda & handlers cutting through all the media hype, side-issues and Left/Right rhetoric. Alex has made several films exposing the Bush agenda and will approach the Obama Administrations plans from the same non-partisan point of view looking past the frontman in the White House to the real owners on Wall Street, in the Bilderberg group and at the Federal Reserve.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: guido911 on January 27, 2009, 01:18:11 PM
I have been criticized by members in this forum for spamming stories. How is posting this conspiracy/black helicopter crap not spamming?
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: altruismsuffers on January 27, 2009, 01:39:33 PM
I am bringing up a topic.  Should I ask, "what do you all think of Obama?"  And Black Helicopter conspiracy crap?  What are you talking about man?

From their own mouths:  "We need to have a civilian national security force"

"Everyone will serve three months of basic training"

"Its not based on any particular data point...we just wanted a really big number"  In reference to the 600 billion bailout plan

"we were told there would be martial law if we voted no"

Dude you really need to wake up.  The economy is crashing down around you... you need to figure out whats going on before the bread lines start.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: guido911 on January 27, 2009, 02:23:16 PM
Oh whatever Alt. Whenever you direct members of this forum to anything produced by that idiot troofer Jones, you are not inviting debate but rather pushing tin foil hat crap.

Here's something re: Jones:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6e2_1221957905&c=1
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: cannon_fodder on January 27, 2009, 02:24:41 PM
I like pie.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: dbacks fan on January 27, 2009, 02:32:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I like pie.

Have the pie, but please put down the kool aid and step away from the table.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: waterboy on January 27, 2009, 03:00:59 PM
Buttermilk pie is good.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Hoss on January 27, 2009, 03:06:22 PM
I love lamp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VGM_jAzPj8
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: we vs us on January 27, 2009, 04:42:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

Buttermilk pie is good.



I'm partial to apple pie, but it has to have a lot of Cool Whip on top.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: sgrizzle on January 27, 2009, 05:23:01 PM
I like Pumpkin Pie with extra Cool Whip or the Banana and Strawberry Pies at Nelsons.

I Miss Nelsons.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Ed W on January 27, 2009, 05:39:09 PM
She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed made a pumpkin/cream cheese pie at Thanksgiving.  I nearly ate the whole thing.  It hurt, but it was soooooo good!
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Hoss on January 27, 2009, 05:57:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ed W

She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed made a pumpkin/cream cheese pie at Thanksgiving.  I nearly ate the whole thing.  It hurt, but it was soooooo good!



Ohhhh...my mother made one of those last Thanksgving ('07).  I sympathize with you and know what you're going through...

...oh, sorry back to topic.

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Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 27, 2009, 07:02:31 PM
After a nice dinner, the two couples got up from the table. The ladies went into the kitchen and the men went into the family room.

One of the men said to the other, "I think it is so wonderful how you call your wife, "honey pie" and "sweet pea", and "sugar" all the time.

The other fellow said, "Well to tell you the truth, four years ago, I forget her name."
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: altruismsuffers on January 27, 2009, 07:51:12 PM
....and this is why the United States is bankrupt
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: joiei on January 27, 2009, 08:17:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

I have been criticized by members in this forum for spamming stories. How is posting this conspiracy/black helicopter crap not spamming?

Good question Guido.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Hoss on January 27, 2009, 08:33:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by joiei

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

I have been criticized by members in this forum for spamming stories. How is posting this conspiracy/black helicopter crap not spamming?

Good question Guido.



My answer?

There is a difference between when I've only seen it once sofar from this particular poster, as opposed to EVERY SINGLE DAY much like FOTD used to do from Guido.  It's almost like we have our very own Newsbusters right on Tulsanow!

Like I've said in the past though, at least he doesn't post the text of the article; just the link.

[:P]
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: sgrizzle on January 27, 2009, 08:37:55 PM
Obama likes Pie
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 27, 2009, 09:15:38 PM
I like Bama Pie.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: joiei on January 27, 2009, 09:30:47 PM
I liked the Fried Pie Store but they went and closed up on us.  I also like the coconut cream pie from Coleman's.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: guido911 on January 27, 2009, 09:37:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by joiei

I liked the Fried Pie Store but they went and closed up on us.  I also like the coconut cream pie from Coleman's.



Where was that place located? Branson is the only place where I have had fried pies.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Conan71 on January 27, 2009, 10:27:16 PM
Now guys, lay off Alt.  We all know that Obama was Bush's hand-picked succesor and Lynn Cheney's love child.

Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Townsend on January 28, 2009, 08:08:19 AM


The Pie Song (//%22http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUtPUr7u6PA%22)
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: guido911 on January 28, 2009, 01:11:25 PM
Obama entering the white house through a window?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/01/28/2009-01-28_hey_bam_thats_not_the_door.html

[}:)]
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Hometown on January 28, 2009, 02:49:46 PM
Altruismsuffers, Thanks for bringing this to our attention.  I appreciate the way you question the official line.

When I look back to our last Democrat in the White House, I'm reminded about the questions that surrounded the deaths of Vince Foster and Ron Brown.

Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: swake on January 28, 2009, 03:15:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hometown

Altruismsuffers, Thanks for bringing this to our attention.  I appreciate the way you question the official line.

When I look back to our last Democrat in the White House, I'm reminded about the questions that surrounded the deaths of Vince Foster and Ron Brown.




Really?

Ken Starr spent years and tens of millions of dollars investigating the Clintons for everything including rumors they stole the kitchen sink and the only thing he ever got any proof of was Bill semantically lying about getting a BJ from an intern. And yet you still believe black helicopter crap about them possibly killing people and covering it up? You really think that Bill and Hillary would be able to cover up multiple murders but not a BJ?

And now you are lapping up the latest internet insanity about Obama posted by anti-Semite troofers? Look, that idiot Alt may sadly believe what he's posting, but what he's posting is often just propaganda funded by radical Muslim groups.

I've got news for you, there was no second shooter, Nixon didn't eat babies, Clinton didn't kill people, Bush didn't bomb the World Trade Center and Obama was born in Hawaii. There was however a second spitter, but that's it.

Hey, by the way, I'm actually a Nigerian Prince and I need your help routing a very large amount of money into the United States. I'll give you a 20% commission for just holding the money for a few days. All I need is your bank account number, would you please send it to me in a private message?
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: joiei on January 28, 2009, 03:38:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by joiei

I liked the Fried Pie Store but they went and closed up on us.  I also like the coconut cream pie from Coleman's.



Where was that place located? Branson is the only place where I have had fried pies.

It was in BA at the corner of Kenosha and Lynn Lane behind the Coney Islander in that old strip shopping center.  The original fried pie store is in Ardmore.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: nathanm on January 28, 2009, 04:08:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by swake

And now you are lapping up the latest internet insanity about Obama posted by anti-Semite troofers? Look, that idiot Alt may sadly believe what he's posting, but what he's posting is often just propaganda funded by radical Muslim groups.


While I agree Alex Jones is off his rocker, there's no need to invoke radical muslims. He's been just as crazy since I first saw his website about 15 years ago.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Hometown on January 28, 2009, 04:18:33 PM
When I see everyone piling in on someone I think school yard bully.  Now a school yard bully that has grown up and piles on via the internet is still a school yard bully -- only you are older now and should know better.

Isn't this a forum for discussion?  Doesn't a discussion usually involve different views?

I for one had real questions about Ron Brown's death that were never answered.

In my experience when there is total agreement, it is usually totally wrong.

Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Ed W on January 28, 2009, 04:18:42 PM
Didn't former president George Bush enjoy shoe fly pie?
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Red Arrow on January 28, 2009, 08:46:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ed W

Didn't former president George Bush enjoy shoe fly pie?



Twice, in one session. He also enjoyed peeking duck even more. (But I think his eyes were actually wide open.)
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: rwarn17588 on January 29, 2009, 01:02:51 AM
quote:


In my experience when there is total agreement, it is usually totally wrong.




By that logic, we should toss out centuries of the scientific method and all the technological advances from it.

Gee, I guess the law of gravity is invalid now, because everyone agrees with it. (sarcasm)
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Hawkins on January 29, 2009, 02:30:19 AM
quote:
Originally posted by altruismsuffers

I am bringing up a topic.  Should I ask, "what do you all think of Obama?"  And Black Helicopter conspiracy crap?  What are you talking about man?

From their own mouths:  "We need to have a civilian national security force"

"Everyone will serve three months of basic training"

"Its not based on any particular data point...we just wanted a really big number"  In reference to the 600 billion bailout plan

"we were told there would be martial law if we voted no"

Dude you really need to wake up.  The economy is crashing down around you... you need to figure out whats going on before the bread lines start.



All of those quotes are taken out of context, but serve as great ammo for a conspiracy talk show host like Alex.

I've heard him on the Art Bell show. He makes it all sound pretty convincing.

Ever consider the possibly that Alex is actually a counterintelligence agent working FOR the global elitists?? Perhaps by clicking on infowars.com, you've put yourself on a secret list!!

Perhaps YOU will be among the first they round up to take to the secret detention facilities they've built right under our noses!!

Did you see how effectively the Tulsa Police Department shut down 169 during 4:00 rush hour Monday??

They said it was so the highway could be treated, but we all know the highway wasn't frozen yet due the frequency of traffic. It was only wet.

Perhaps the TPD's real motive was to engage in a trial run of their planned operation to shut down 169 when martial law is declared to prevent us from fleeing the major population areas!

Due to the healthy amount of G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate in Tulsa's water supply, motorists complied readily to the TPD's blockade of 169 during rush hour, and submitted themselves to a longer, more dangerous trip home on icy side-roads with heavy traffic.
Thus, the trial run for the TPD was a success!

Yes, they want to round us up, and keep us in the downtown arena (the REAL reason we built an multi-million dollar arena in the lowest income section of Tulsa) where we will be starved and raped, just like they did to the residents of New Orleans after the CIA weathermachine-controlled hurricane sacked their city!!




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Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Neptune on January 29, 2009, 02:31:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588

Gee, I guess the law of gravity is invalid now, because everyone agrees with it. (sarcasm)



I am not sure that I agree with the Law of Gravity.  Yes, I'm seemingly stuck to this earth.  No, it's not "God glue".  I think Isaac Newton's Law of Gravity was brilliant, it still works for the most part and it still serves it's original purpose and function.  It's just incorrect.  I believe I am now a full fledged follower of the gravitational version represented in General Relativity.  Though I'm still working out the details on that.  You know, It's kind of complicated.

Now, back on topic.  Nutty, says I.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Red Arrow on January 29, 2009, 12:32:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Neptune

quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588

Gee, I guess the law of gravity is invalid now, because everyone agrees with it. (sarcasm)



I am not sure that I agree with the Law of Gravity.  Yes, I'm seemingly stuck to this earth.  No, it's not "God glue".  I think Isaac Newton's Law of Gravity was brilliant, it still works for the most part and it still serves it's original purpose and function.  It's just incorrect.  I believe I am now a full fledged follower of the gravitational version represented in General Relativity.  Though I'm still working out the details on that.  You know, It's kind of complicated.

Now, back on topic.  Nutty, says I.



Sorry, one more off topic:

There is no gravity. The earth just sucks. [:D]
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Hometown on January 29, 2009, 01:15:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:


In my experience when there is total agreement, it is usually totally wrong.




By that logic, we should toss out centuries of the scientific method and all the technological advances from it.

Gee, I guess the law of gravity is invalid now, because everyone agrees with it. (sarcasm)



"...

Newton's laws do not explain why all objects attract all others. By 1916 the theoretical physicist Albert Einstein had formulated a new theory of gravity that attempted to explain its actual nature. In his theory, called general relativity, gravity does not exist as a real force. Instead, each mass in the universe bends the very structure of space and time around it, somewhat as a marble sitting on a very thin piece of rubber does. This distortion of the space surrounding each object in turn bends the path of all objects, even those possessing no mass at all such as photons.

Despite the success of Einstein's theory, much remains unknown about gravity. Still unanswered are questions about its relation to the other three forces of nature, why it is so much weaker, and why matter creates the curvature of space around it. These and other fundamental questions about gravity continue to be the subject of theoretical work by scientists."  

...."

Apparently there are still some unanswered questions about gravity Rwarn.  (Positive energy eclipses sarcasm)

http://www.grantchronicles.com/gravitymk.htm

Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Conan71 on January 29, 2009, 01:51:48 PM
"Gravity...not just a great idea, it's the law!"

-unknown
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: cannon_fodder on January 29, 2009, 01:53:50 PM
Which is why science is so great.  We can question hundreds of years of "fact" when new evidence presents itself.  It take an affirmative and recreated act or discovery to gradually confirm a theory.  The theory can be cast aside when contrary evidence is presented and a new better theory can be formulated.

Newtonian Physics still work on a macro scale in our daily lives.  But on a micro and super macro (cosmic) scale they begin to break down.  Einsteins theory of General Relativity (which is an expansion of specific relativity) can more accurately predict the motion of cosmic bodies (as proven by the eclipse photos) and was extrapolated upon to predict the movement of articles at the atomic level (correctly, as it turns out).  HOWEVER, it fails to describe the motion of subatomic particles (quantum mechanics, string theory, "weak force" etc.).  

Thus, Newtonian physics are still useful for figuring most things out.  Will the building stand?  How far would a gold ball hit at an imaginary screen have gone?  Most our lives operate under Newtonian physics.

Einsteins theories are useful for atomic principles, space travel, and theoretical fields (his prediction of time slowing down as you approach the speed of light was mind boggling yet true).  But they fall apart.  Thus, they are wrong.

$1 to the person who comes up with the fabled Theory of Everything or Unified Theory of Gravity.  It will on some level prove Einstein wrong or at very least improve upon his foundation.  Which would have made him very happy.

/I know the theories well, but I was not very good applying the math.  Too tedious for me.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: Hoss on January 29, 2009, 01:58:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Which is why science is so great.  We can question hundreds of years of "fact" when new evidence presents itself.  It take an affirmative and recreated act or discovery to gradually confirm a theory.  The theory can be cast aside when contrary evidence is presented and a new better theory can be formulated.

Newtonian Physics still work on a macro scale in our daily lives.  But on a micro and super macro (cosmic) scale they begin to break down.  Einsteins theory of General Relativity (which is an expansion of specific relativity) can more accurately predict the motion of cosmic bodies (as proven by the eclipse photos) and was extrapolated upon to predict the movement of articles at the atomic level (correctly, as it turns out).  HOWEVER, it fails to describe the motion of subatomic particles (quantum mechanics, string theory, "weak force" etc.).  

Thus, Newtonian physics are still useful for figuring most things out.  Will the building stand?  How far would a gold ball hit at an imaginary screen have gone?  Most our lives operate under Newtonian physics.

Einsteins theories are useful for atomic principles, space travel, and theoretical fields (his prediction of time slowing down as you approach the speed of light was mind boggling yet true).  But they fall apart.  Thus, they are wrong.

$1 to the person who comes up with the fabled Theory of Everything or Unified Theory of Gravity.  It will on some level prove Einstein wrong or at very least improve upon his foundation.  Which would have made him very happy.

/I know the theories well, but I was not very good applying the math.  Too tedious for me.



Forty-two
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: cannon_fodder on January 29, 2009, 02:08:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss


Forty-two



+1 for the reference.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: altruismsuffers on January 29, 2009, 02:28:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins

quote:
Originally posted by altruismsuffers

I am bringing up a topic.  Should I ask, "what do you all think of Obama?"  And Black Helicopter conspiracy crap?  What are you talking about man?

From their own mouths:  "We need to have a civilian national security force"

"Everyone will serve three months of basic training"

"Its not based on any particular data point...we just wanted a really big number"  In reference to the 600 billion bailout plan

"we were told there would be martial law if we voted no"

Dude you really need to wake up.  The economy is crashing down around you... you need to figure out whats going on before the bread lines start.



Perhaps YOU will be among the first they round up to take to the secret detention facilities they've built right under our noses!!


[:P]



The "Secret" detention camps are no longer secret my friend.  H.R. 645: To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations. (//%22http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645%22)

Owe I guess if they don't call them "Concentration Camps" then they are nothing to worry about.  
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: altruismsuffers on January 29, 2009, 02:33:15 PM
KBR awarded Homeland Security contract worth up to $385M (//%22http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7B62C8724D-AE8A-4B5C-94C7-70171315C0A0%7D&dateid=38741.5136277662-858254656%22)
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: cannon_fodder on January 29, 2009, 03:42:29 PM
I love the Halliburton witch hunt.  In other news, Boeing will get a new aviation contract, Exxon supplies oil to the military, and New Port News will build more ships.  It's what they do, of course they will get military contracts.

Start a company and bid against them if you think you can do it better/cheaper.  I'd be damn glad to see the competition.
Title: The Obama Deception
Post by: altruismsuffers on January 29, 2009, 05:17:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I love the Halliburton witch hunt.  In other news, Boeing will get a new aviation contract, Exxon supplies oil to the military, and New Port News will build more ships.  It's what they do, of course they will get military contracts.

Start a company and bid against them if you think you can do it better/cheaper.  I'd be damn glad to see the competition.



Dude, are you living in a cave?  Even before the first shots were fired in Iraq, the Pentagon had secretly awarded Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown & Root a two-year, no-bid contract (//%22http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/04/25/60minutes/main551091.shtml%22)  
Do you not understand the term "NO-BID CONTRACT"?