I am heading back to Tulsa (for the first time in two years, mind you) in late January to take the physical and written exams for the Tulsa PD. I have been wondering, how in the world are they still hiring police officers?! I'm not complaining, since I obviously want this job, but most major cities are on a hiring freeze. Is there something I don't know? I mean, they have been pretty active in hiring new officers.
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by Johnboy976
I am heading back to Tulsa (for the first time in two years, mind you) in late January to take the physical and written exams for the Tulsa PD. I have been wondering, how in the world are they still hiring police officers?! I'm not complaining, since I obviously want this job, but most major cities are on a hiring freeze. Is there something I don't know? I mean, they have been pretty active in hiring new officers.
because we have been needing cops for a LONG time. And tulsa isn't as sucky as other parts of the country. Forbes just announced we have the 6th best housing market. Which isn't saying much when every place else is in the toilet and we are basically staying at 1% growth.
Not very intelligent are you Inteller?
That article did not say 1% growth, prices were only going to contract 1.1%
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grow 1% or contract 1%, it still means the market around here is consistently pathetic.
Or some people would say stable...
I'm glad my taxes didn't inflate 50% the first half of this decade and my home value didn't drop 50% so far the second half. I'm glad our foreclosure rate is about 1/5th of Las Vegas or other places that enjoyed "non-pathetic" real estate markets. And I'm willing to bet this individual, moving to Tulsa, is glad our market is stable.
The myth of building wealth through home ownership needs to die.
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Tulsa has been in need of more officers for a long time. We are catching up with a backlog of demand. At least, that's the story we are being told.
Agreed. My sister did very well in Albuquerque. But for every person to be smart enough to time it right, there is another who necessarily got the timing wrong and on top of them there are people who bought NEW homes for inflated prices, simply paid more tax on the home they have always lived in, or took "equity" out of their new high-valued home and have since lost it. Thus, a stable real estate market is preferred to a bubble.
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Agreed. My sister did very well in Albuquerque. But for every person to be smart enough to time it right, there is another who necessarily got the timing wrong and on top of them there are people who bought NEW homes for inflated prices, simply paid more tax on the home they have always lived in, or took "equity" out of their new high-valued home and have since lost it. Thus, a stable real estate market is preferred to a bubble.
Stable is preferred to a bubble in ANY market.
You ask any stock trader or investor, and he/she will always prefer steady growth much more than volatility. The latter means there's something fundamentally wrong.
I am fully aware of the market in Tulsa. I lived there for nearly 20 years, and as far as I'm concerned, stable is better than shrinking. I have applied to jobs in Lousiville, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and Harrisburg. Tulsa has been the only city that was actively looking for anyone, in any of the jobs I applied for.
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I am fully aware of the market in Tulsa. I lived there for nearly 20 years, and as far as I'm concerned, stable is better than shrinking. I have applied to jobs in Lousiville, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and Harrisburg. Tulsa has been the only city that was actively looking for anyone, in any of the jobs I applied for.
They are also hiring because the Chief put in a request for $5M to hire about 120 officers in 2009 (they lose half that to attrition through the year, so a net gain of 60)
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I am fully aware of the market in Tulsa. I lived there for nearly 20 years, and as far as I'm concerned, stable is better than shrinking. I have applied to jobs in Lousiville, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and Harrisburg. Tulsa has been the only city that was actively looking for anyone, in any of the jobs I applied for.
They are also hiring because the Chief put in a request for $5M to hire about 120 officers in 2009 (they lose half that to attrition through the year, so a net gain of 60)
Wow, we are really going backwards with those numbers then. Going without any for a few years and what 20 or 40 new last year and you say we are losing 60 a year. Must be less than 600 officers now[;)]
I see an increase in donut shop business and maybe we can get rid of operation slick streets when we have a couple drops of rain.
The police blog website said there were 827 officers currently and the Tulsa World said around 820 officers.
The police department budget for this fiscal year is over $87 million. That works out to $106,000 per officer per year.
The starting pay is $42,417 per year. The average Tulsa police officer is paid $58,500 per year.
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I am fully aware of the market in Tulsa. I lived there for nearly 20 years, and as far as I'm concerned, stable is better than shrinking. I have applied to jobs in Lousiville, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and Harrisburg. Tulsa has been the only city that was actively looking for anyone, in any of the jobs I applied for.
They are also hiring because the Chief put in a request for $5M to hire about 120 officers in 2009 (they lose half that to attrition through the year, so a net gain of 60)
That was a request by the Chief to the Council (which he has done in the past). I doubt the Council will pass that request (just like they have done in the past).
The hiring that is taking place now is simply to keep up with attrition. No expansion hiring is currently taking place.
HUGE yawn on the "donut shop" remark, Chas22. It was probably extremely funny the FIRST time it was ever used. What's wrong with Slick Streets anyway? Big deal, why would you need 'em if it's a minor dent? Exchange information and move on with your day. People in Tulsa are so spoiled. They call the police for every little thing. Handle your business.
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People in Tulsa are so spoiled. They call the police for every little thing. Handle your business.
Not sure how to take that. Part of me agrees. Part of me thinks that such action could increase the murder rate.
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I am fully aware of the market in Tulsa. I lived there for nearly 20 years, and as far as I'm concerned, stable is better than shrinking. I have applied to jobs in Lousiville, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and Harrisburg. Tulsa has been the only city that was actively looking for anyone, in any of the jobs I applied for.
I believe Tulsa as a metro area is growing. I'd avoid places in PA. that state is tax-ville, USA. the prop. taxes are sky high, they have vehicle safety inspections and smog testing, Many cities in PA have a city income tax on top of the state income tax. it's a cold & cloudy state. I would not want to live there.[B)]
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HUGE yawn on the "donut shop" remark, Chas22. It was probably extremely funny the FIRST time it was ever used. What's wrong with Slick Streets anyway? Big deal, why would you need 'em if it's a minor dent? Exchange information and move on with your day. People in Tulsa are so spoiled. They call the police for every little thing. Handle your business.
Well said! The neighbors dog is out, they are playing their music to loud, he backed into my car, I think that guy is up to something, my kid will not go to school.
Maybe if these people would stop calling on these things we would not need more officers.
Maybe if they did more for a home break-in than tell you to "estimate high" for your insurance there would be less crime.
I left my work at 91st and Delaware and drove to 11th and Yale... My wife called me AFTER the police and guess who got there first?