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Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: zstyles on December 30, 2008, 09:07:39 AM
Survey today: Should Stores Like Walgreens Be Open On Christmas.....

errrr huh? I think they can decide their own hours...correct? This is still America..whats the point of this poll!!???

http://cfc.ktul.com/processpoll.cfm?i=2268&showresults=1
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: rwarn17588 on December 30, 2008, 09:18:20 AM
Oh, it's the station just trying to stir up some of that "War on Christmas" horsesh*t, a controversy that jumped the shark years ago.

Nevermind that a portion of the public might *need* some prescription drugs on the holiday.
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: sauerkraut on December 30, 2008, 09:24:56 AM
If a business wants to be open Christmas Day that is up to them. What's next gas stations, the local QT store, truck stops. BTW I heard Flying J Truck stops went belly up. There is a big Flying J in Tulsa at 129th and Admerial and they were having a hard time getting fuel.
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: dbacks fan on December 30, 2008, 09:30:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sauerkraut

If a business wants to be open Christmas Day that is up to them. What's next gas stations, the local QT store, truck stops. BTW I heard Flying J Truck stops went belly up. There is a big Flying J in Tulsa at 129th and Admerial and they were having a hard time getting fuel.



Flying J (//%22http://www.centralpennbusiness.com/industry_article.asp?cID=7&aID=61505127.4376032.907036.962257.4180196.399%22) filed Capter 11 to reorg.
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: cannon_fodder on December 30, 2008, 09:37:51 AM
My bible (the first part of it) tells me that people should not drive, cook, help others, or in other ways work on the high holy days.  The second part of my book talks a lot about Jesus.  While his birthday was not celebrated as a high holy day while he was alive, or even mentioned aside from his really real birth day, later generations decided to make it a high holy day.  

Ergo, no one should work on Christmas, it's in the Bible (kinda).
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 30, 2008, 09:47:15 AM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

My bible (the first part of it) tells me that people should not drive, cook, help others, or in other ways work on the high holy days.  


I want to see the section of the bible that says you shouldn't "drive". I would be impressed of the prediction of the automobile.

My wife tried that "can't cook on a holy day", but all she ever does is microwave stuff anyway.
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: dbacks fan on December 30, 2008, 09:55:07 AM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

My bible (the first part of it) tells me that people should not drive, cook, help others, or in other ways work on the high holy days.  


I want to see the section of the bible that says you shouldn't "drive". I would be impressed of the prediction of the automobile.

My wife tried that "can't cook on a holy day", but all she ever does is microwave stuff anyway.



If I can't drive on a holy day, how do I get to church?
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: Nik on December 30, 2008, 10:02:39 AM
I'm glad WalGreens was open. I needed chips!
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: cannon_fodder on December 30, 2008, 10:25:48 AM
I'll assume you are being in jest... but the reasoning is:

God told us to remember the Sabbath.  On the 7th day he rested.  Our work is not as important as his, so clearly we should not work either.  In addition, Jews were slaves in Egypt who worked 7 days a week - not working on the 7th day is supposed to be a reminder that they are free.

To be precise, "work" is not forbidden by the bible but "melachah" is.  A word best translated as "work" but having a specific connotation.  It has since been extrapolated by various holy men. Specifically, Jews observing Shabbat must not engage in:

  1. Sowing
  2. Plowing (there's a joke here)
  3. Reaping
  4. Binding sheaves
  5. Threshing
  6. Winnowing
  7. Selecting
  8. Grinding
  9. Sifting
 10. Kneading
 11. Baking
 12. Shearing wool
 13. Washing wool
 14. Beating wool
 15. Dyeing wool
 16. Spinning
 17. Weaving
 18. Making two loops
 19. Weaving two threads
 20. Separating two threads
 21. Tying
 22. Untying
 23. Sewing two stitches
 24. Tearing
 25. Trapping
 26. Slaughtering
 27. Flaying
 28. Salting meat
 29. Curing hide
 30. Scraping hide
 31. Cutting hide up
 32. Writing two letters
 33. Erasing two letters
 34. Building
 35. Tearing a building down
 36. Extinguishing a fire
 37. Kindling a fire
 38. Hitting with a hammer
 39. Taking an object from the private domain to the public, or transporting an object in the public domain.

#39 pertaining to driving whilst not predicting the automobile (or did it...).  [;)]

The fun being most of that isn't actually IN the bible, it was kinda-sorta added later.  Like Christmas.  Hence, Walgreens should be closed.

Quod erat demonstrandum.
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Post by: RecycleMichael on December 30, 2008, 10:37:52 AM
Man, am I in trouble. I did most of those things on Sunday.

Especially sowing. I have sowed enough wild oats to qualify for a farm loan.
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: Red Arrow on December 30, 2008, 11:03:19 AM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I'll assume you are being in jest... but the reasoning is:

God told us to remember the Sabbath.  On the 7th day he rested.  Our work is not as important as his, so clearly we should not work either.  In addition, Jews were slaves in Egypt who worked 7 days a week - not working on the 7th day is supposed to be a reminder that they are free.




So maybe Walgreens should be closed on Saturdays.  Christmas should be a non-issue.
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Post by: cannon_fodder on December 30, 2008, 11:58:34 AM
But Red Arrow, God changed his mind on most of that stuff in the New Testament.  So as a Christian nation we don't have to follow the laws in the Old Testament that we don't want to.  But Jesus was born (it's in the new part) and we have to celebrate his birth (it was added later).

Close Walgreen for Christmas, or the terrorists have won.
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Post by: RecycleMichael on December 30, 2008, 12:28:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder
27. Flaying
28. Salting meat
 


Is this "watching that chef guy" on TV?

What is it with religion and food? Some want me to eat fish on one day, never pork for others, and I don't think I could worship with the sacred cow folk for long. Ramadan means no food until sunset...but I thought breakfast was the most important meal of the day.

Salt meat? That seems extra picky. Pepper OK?

My mind is filled with faith, but it is in the body of an athiest.
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: zstyles on December 30, 2008, 12:44:43 PM
Okay...everyone...the topic wasn't about the bible..it was about channel 8 and asking this poll question..try to not be so ADD...
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: tim huntzinger on December 30, 2008, 12:44:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

But Red Arrow, God changed his mind on most of that stuff in the New Testament.  So as a Christian nation we don't have to follow the laws in the Old Testament that we don't want to.  But Jesus was born (it's in the new part) and we have to celebrate his birth (it was added later).

Close Walgreen for Christmas, or the terrorists have won.



Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.  Funny how all those who want to use the Big Ten pare it down for convenience's sake to ignore the Sabbat. Personally I avoid shopping on Sunday, murdering too often, lying frequently, coveting on a regular basis . . . y'know, all things in moderation.
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 30, 2008, 12:54:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by zstyles

Okay...everyone...the topic wasn't about the bible..it was about channel 8 and asking this poll question..try to not be so ADD...



I only wish I could...

You started a thread for making fun of puff topic covered by a TV station during the holidays. What is wrong with doing a poll asking people's opinions on something trivial?

It was interesting enough to catch your attention. When I saw the news story, it reminded me that they were open so it was good advertising...maybe that was the real intent...

Why would this poll be any different than asking people about sports or are they driving to grandma's house?

Back to the bible conversation...I am actually learning and now have a list of 39 things I may use as New Year's resolutions.
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: cannon_fodder on December 30, 2008, 01:34:03 PM
All things in moderation.  Including moderation.  So I plan on getting hammered tomorrow night in order to accomplish the goal of moderation.
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: pmcalk on December 30, 2008, 01:44:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I'll assume you are being in jest... but the reasoning is:

God told us to remember the Sabbath.  On the 7th day he rested.  Our work is not as important as his, so clearly we should not work either.  In addition, Jews were slaves in Egypt who worked 7 days a week - not working on the 7th day is supposed to be a reminder that they are free.

To be precise, "work" is not forbidden by the bible but "melachah" is.  A word best translated as "work" but having a specific connotation.  It has since been extrapolated by various holy men. Specifically, Jews observing Shabbat must not engage in:

  1. Sowing
  2. Plowing (there's a joke here)
  3. Reaping
  4. Binding sheaves
  5. Threshing
  6. Winnowing
  7. Selecting
  8. Grinding
  9. Sifting
 10. Kneading
 11. Baking
 12. Shearing wool
 13. Washing wool
 14. Beating wool
 15. Dyeing wool
 16. Spinning
 17. Weaving
 18. Making two loops
 19. Weaving two threads
 20. Separating two threads
 21. Tying
 22. Untying
 23. Sewing two stitches
 24. Tearing
 25. Trapping
 26. Slaughtering
 27. Flaying
 28. Salting meat
 29. Curing hide
 30. Scraping hide
 31. Cutting hide up
 32. Writing two letters
 33. Erasing two letters
 34. Building
 35. Tearing a building down
 36. Extinguishing a fire
 37. Kindling a fire
 38. Hitting with a hammer
 39. Taking an object from the private domain to the public, or transporting an object in the public domain.

#39 pertaining to driving whilst not predicting the automobile (or did it...).  [;)]

The fun being most of that isn't actually IN the bible, it was kinda-sorta added later.  Like Christmas.  Hence, Walgreens should be closed.

Quod erat demonstrandum.



I have always thought that strict adherence to the 39 rules results in some fairly odd traditions.  For example, since electricity is like fire, you cannot "create it", though you can use it.  If your lights are on a timer, that's fine, so long as you don't turn the light on.  You can put your food on a warming tray, but you cannot cook it.  There are "kosher" hotels in Israel that have elevators that stop on every floor on Saturdays so you don't have to push a button.  I really never understood that.  God doesn't mind you riding on an elevator, so long as you don't push a button???  What doesn't God have against buttons?

I think we should all observe one day a week where we aren't consumed with consuming things (not that it should be imposed on private businesses, though).  But my kids think that's sacrilege.
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 30, 2008, 02:46:57 PM
We have church for only about five more Sundays (Our Lady of the NFL). Our 32 cathedrals are the biggest in the world, some seating as many as 80,000 people.

Our choir uses pom-poms and our congregation prays for touchdowns and opposing team fumbles.

One of our teams has already been named Saints.
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Post by: Gaspar on December 30, 2008, 03:14:01 PM
I'm a member of the Church of Home Depot.  I take my daughter every Sunday.  My wife feels that I tithe too much, and I always have to remind her of the verses:

Vila 12:13-15

13 And the profit Bob Vila Said unto the people. Thy drill is comfortable to hold and features a 1/2 in. single-sleeve keyless chuck and a Mag Tray™ magnetic holder for screws and bits. Thy circular saw has a 5-1/2 in. carbide-tipped blade. The 0-3,000 spm reciprocating saw ensures accurate starts and smooth cutting to produce holy results. Each piece is handheld for versatile use in limited spaces. Thy included tool bag makes storage and transport to the jobsite hassle-free.

14 If Thou art worthy, thou shalt receive a single Ryobi One+ Tool by retailer's mail-in rebate. May not be combined with any other offer.

15 If thou lookist to upgrade to a serious combo kit thow can call off thy search. The new RYOBI® 18V Lithium-ion AutoShift™ Drill is the blessed of a four-piece combo kit ideal for the holy DIYer.

AMEN



Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: Ibanez on December 30, 2008, 04:15:26 PM
I Don't Roll on Shabbas
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: Hoss on December 30, 2008, 04:31:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar

I'm a member of the Church of Home Depot.  I take my daughter every Sunday.  My wife feels that I tithe too much, and I always have to remind her of the verses:

Vila 12:13-15

13 And the profit Bob Vila Said unto the people. Thy drill is comfortable to hold and features a 1/2 in. single-sleeve keyless chuck and a Mag Tray™ magnetic holder for screws and bits. Thy circular saw has a 5-1/2 in. carbide-tipped blade. The 0-3,000 spm reciprocating saw ensures accurate starts and smooth cutting to produce holy results. Each piece is handheld for versatile use in limited spaces. Thy included tool bag makes storage and transport to the jobsite hassle-free.

14 If Thou art worthy, thou shalt receive a single Ryobi One+ Tool by retailer's mail-in rebate. May not be combined with any other offer.

15 If thou lookist to upgrade to a serious combo kit thow can call off thy search. The new RYOBI® 18V Lithium-ion AutoShift™ Drill is the blessed of a four-piece combo kit ideal for the holy DIYer.

AMEN







We don't agree on much Gas, but on this we will agree.

That was friggin' classic hilarity.

Good stuff.
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: Sardonicus Rex on December 30, 2008, 05:53:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by zstyles

Survey today: Should Stores Like Walgreens Be Open On Christmas.....

errrr huh? I think they can decide their own hours...correct? This is still America..whats the point of this poll!!???

http://cfc.ktul.com/processpoll.cfm?i=2268&showresults=1



Flash polls are one of the most useless features on KTUL's (or any other news organization's) Web site. My blood pressure immediately goes off the scale every time a news anchor asks the (usually inane) question of the day.

Who gives a [insert colorful word of your choice here] what anybody thinks when a question can be answered simply by clicking a button or selecting from 3 or 4 set responses?
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: pmcalk on December 30, 2008, 06:35:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Sardonicus Rex

quote:
Originally posted by zstyles

Survey today: Should Stores Like Walgreens Be Open On Christmas.....

errrr huh? I think they can decide their own hours...correct? This is still America..whats the point of this poll!!???

http://cfc.ktul.com/processpoll.cfm?i=2268&showresults=1



Flash polls are one of the most useless features on KTUL's (or any other news organization's) Web site. My blood pressure immediately goes off the scale every time a news anchor asks the (usually inane) question of the day.

Who gives a [insert colorful word of your choice here] what anybody thinks when a question can be answered simply by clicking a button or selecting from 3 or 4 set responses?



I think the flash polls should at least be more truthful:  "what do people who have no life & nothing better to do with their time than to participate in flash polls think of this topic?"
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: Red Arrow on December 30, 2008, 10:44:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk

I think the flash polls should at least be more truthful:  "what do people who have no life & nothing better to do with their time than to participate in flash polls think of this topic?"



I never participate in those polls just so I can say I have a life and something better to do.  (Some may disagree.)

Oh, wait a minute.  What are we doing here?
Title: Hard Hitting Channel 8 News - Should Stores Like..
Post by: tim huntzinger on December 31, 2008, 08:35:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by zstyles

Okay...everyone...try to not be so ADD...



Putin won that 'pectoral' poll on Drudge.  I want better pecs.  I think Madoff is a criminal against humanity.  Can we have him executed on a Sunday?
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Post by: Quinton on December 31, 2008, 08:56:38 AM
why do you try to make others believe as you do ?? isnt this a country where you are free to believe as you want or have i missed a change in the constitution.