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Title: Biker Fox
Post by: Breadburner on December 07, 2008, 05:29:30 PM
http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=9470334
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: sgrizzle on December 07, 2008, 05:36:26 PM
So wait...

Paul Tay is gainfully employed and keeping to himself but BIKERFOX is disrupting traffic, getting arrested and assaulting police officers?

Methinks everyone was worried about the wrong cyclist..

Title: Biker Fox
Post by: Breadburner on December 07, 2008, 06:33:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

So wait...

Paul Tay is gainfully employed and keeping to himself but BIKERFOX is disrupting traffic, getting arrested and assaulting police officers?

Methinks everyone was worried about the wrong cyclist..





Hardly...Paul Tay did more than his fair share.....BikerFox was more of an attention whore.....
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: CoffeeBean on December 07, 2008, 09:22:45 PM
Mug Shot (//%22http://juxtaposably.blogspot.com/2008/12/biker-fox-arrested.html%22)
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: nathanm on December 07, 2008, 11:26:11 PM
What exactly was the ticket being written for?

(Not that it excuses assaulting an officer or resisting arrest in any event)
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: cannon_fodder on December 08, 2008, 08:06:50 AM
Not to excuse threatening a police officer, but I would REALLY like to see what happened.  No light on a bike at 3pm?  I'd be pissed too (I would NOT, however, throw a bike at an officer).  Just curious to see how it was handled if the Fox was pissy or the Officer was (again, legally doesn't matter but it reflects on my opinion).

Tay has had his fair share of trouble.  But he hasn't assaulted anyone in years and has stayed off the freeways.  I've got no problem with him or the Fox so long as they remain annoying yet legal.
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: sgrizzle on December 08, 2008, 09:33:53 AM
You just now experienced BikerFox.com?

You should spend time with the Glamour Shots or go to his myspace and get the BikerFox greeting cards.
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: Hoss on December 08, 2008, 09:55:24 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

So wait...

Paul Tay is gainfully employed and keeping to himself but BIKERFOX is disrupting traffic, getting arrested and assaulting police officers?

Methinks everyone was worried about the wrong cyclist..





So does keeping to yourself = riding your bike in the middle of 41st Street near the Promenade mall dressed like Santa Claus?

That wouldn't be so bad if he hadn't have done so IN THE MIDDLE OF FREAKING JULY WHEN IT WAS 90 DEGREES OUT!

Sorry for shouting.
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: sgrizzle on December 08, 2008, 10:25:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss


So does keeping to yourself = riding your bike in the middle of 41st Street near the Promenade mall dressed like Santa Claus?

That wouldn't be so bad if he hadn't have done so IN THE MIDDLE OF FREAKING JULY WHEN IT WAS 90 DEGREES OUT!

Sorry for shouting.



That was July.
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: Hoss on December 08, 2008, 10:29:56 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by Hoss


So does keeping to yourself = riding your bike in the middle of 41st Street near the Promenade mall dressed like Santa Claus?

That wouldn't be so bad if he hadn't have done so IN THE MIDDLE OF FREAKING JULY WHEN IT WAS 90 DEGREES OUT!

Sorry for shouting.



That was July.



So what?  Has he had an epiphany of clarity since then?  I saw him at the council meetings.  Didn't appear that way, at least to my untrained eye.

[}:)]
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: Michael71 on December 08, 2008, 11:29:27 AM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

not riding to the right of the road and no light on the bike.....sweet!

It is now time to send this cop downtown and cite Tay next.[}:)]



At least he didn't hit a telephone pole after leaving a BBQ
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: patric on December 08, 2008, 12:04:22 PM
This was on the KOTV website, cant speak to it's accuracy:

"Bf was riding his bike in the right lane. Stopped at 68th & memorial. Pike rides up on a bicycle I coudn't believe it. He says he is going to write me a ticket for not having a light on the back of my bike in the middle of the day. At night I have 2-3 flashers. So we stop he starts writing me a ticket, I said why are you being such an a.h. and harassing me. He said go sit down there now. I laid my bike down when I did Channel 6, my front tire barely touched his rear tire. He said you just assaulted a Police Officer. Your kidding right? So while I am kneeling down he proseeds to put me in a choke hold. No warning nothing. He keeps saying stop resisting. Resisting? I am flat on my face. About to pass OUT! Finally he Knocks me out channel 6 but thats ok right Channel 6. You trust all the Police right?, keep in mind he has been harrassing me for 8 years & counting. He is the ONLY cop to write me a ticket in the last 15 monthes. Now thats not Police Harrassment and Brutality. Man I can see bloggers are usually haters on the internet. Thanks to the many whom support me. Doing the right thing when your about to soar with the Eagles brings out the Snipers.
Come on haters yopu just make me stronger. When the Judge Finds out the police are harrassing me again She will throw it out. Maybe the D.A. will get tired of the Police harrassing me. The will finally put a stop to this one cop. Just one Pike. The dishonest bad apple."

I dont think anyone's done any reporting on this beyond cut-and-pasting from the police report (which is poor journalism, imho)
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: cannon_fodder on December 08, 2008, 12:20:42 PM
I agree Patric.  His story sounds plausible to me.  I could also see him getting upset with an officer for a light ticket a 3pm and the two getting in an "I'm right" confrontation, which the man with the gun always wins.  BUT, if Biker's side of the story is correct then I'm with him... seems like BS.

OH TO HAVE DASH CAMS!

No charges are currently filed in Tulsa County.  The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.  The cop was harassing him (no light at 3pm?) but then the Fox did not handle it well and threw a fit... giving the cop an excuse to treat him like a man throwing a fit.  Just my guess.

(http://iic.tulsacounty.org/Mugshots/1165413_1213777_f.jpg)
Offenses
Description   Case #   Court Date   Bond Type   Bond Amt   Disposition
BICYCLE - NOT RIDING ON RIGHT      12/10/2008   Surety Bond   $44.00   112 - Bond (Surety/Cash)
OBSTRUCT OR RESIST OFFICERS      12/10/2008   Surety Bond   $150.00   112 - Bond (Surety/Cash)
NO BICYCLE LIGHT      12/10/2008   Surety Bond   $44.00   112 - Bond (Surety/Cash)
http://iic.tulsacounty.org/InmateDetails.aspx?Id=1213777

Title: Biker Fox
Post by: patric on December 08, 2008, 12:57:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

The cop was also pretty good at pushing buttons obviously and pushed the right ones one Fox.


Probably the best assessment sofar.
Two a$$es butting up against one another.
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: Gaspar on December 08, 2008, 02:28:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I agree Patric.  His story sounds plausible to me.  I could also see him getting upset with an officer for a light ticket a 3pm and the two getting in an "I'm right" confrontation, which the man with the gun always wins.  BUT, if Biker's side of the story is correct then I'm with him... seems like BS.

OH TO HAVE DASH CAMS!

No charges are currently filed in Tulsa County.  The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.  The cop was harassing him (no light at 3pm?) but then the Fox did not handle it well and threw a fit... giving the cop an excuse to treat him like a man throwing a fit.  Just my guess.

(http://iic.tulsacounty.org/Mugshots/1165413_1213777_f.jpg)
Offenses
Description   Case #   Court Date   Bond Type   Bond Amt   Disposition
BICYCLE - NOT RIDING ON RIGHT      12/10/2008   Surety Bond   $44.00   112 - Bond (Surety/Cash)
OBSTRUCT OR RESIST OFFICERS      12/10/2008   Surety Bond   $150.00   112 - Bond (Surety/Cash)
NO BICYCLE LIGHT      12/10/2008   Surety Bond   $44.00   112 - Bond (Surety/Cash)
http://iic.tulsacounty.org/InmateDetails.aspx?Id=1213777





uh, what is that in his nose?  a piercing or a really gross booger?



I guess no one was kind enough to tell him he had a "bat in the cave" before they snapped the mug-shot.

Title: Biker Fox
Post by: nathanm on December 08, 2008, 04:54:19 PM
As expected, the initial contact was complete and utter BS from the officer.

Behavior like that does nothing to increase respect for officers as a group. You'd think they'd learn that.

And that's presuming Fox was doing what the officer claimed did actually assault the officer with more than words.

Obviously some city ordinances related to bicycle equipment need to be rewritten.
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: TheArtist on December 08, 2008, 06:57:48 PM
Oh, my. Bad mugshot. Was it just me or did anyone else immediately think, "omg its Smeagol" ,,, from LOTR? http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/images/gollum.php

Title: Biker Fox
Post by: RecycleMichael on December 08, 2008, 07:42:00 PM
I don't know anything more than what I read on this thread...

But I got to go with the officer on this one.

This biker clown was asking to be confronted and when had the chance, responded poorly to the officer.

Showing off on a center median in the busiest intersection in town seems a very stupid thing to do.
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: Ed W on December 08, 2008, 08:56:06 PM
I've heard two accounts so far.  The first was that he was riding against traffic and that was the reason for the stop.  The other was that he was riding with traffic.

But is there anything illegal about cavorting in the median?

Frankly, I'm surprised at the venom on display in the Channel 6 thread.  One of them said that he's run cyclists off the road by driving at them and braking at the last second.  Sounds like good, clean fun.  I'm sure he wouldn't mind if I sent a couple of 45 caliber hollow points whizzing past one of his kids, just to scare 'em, of course.  No harm, no foul.
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: JessnT on December 09, 2008, 12:41:40 AM
This brings back an old topic of discussion.  Thought the name of the cop sounded familiar.

Not that I agree with either side in this case (Fox/Pike) but it appears that both men have quite the reputation.

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11990
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: Breadburner on December 09, 2008, 07:22:32 AM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I agree Patric.  His story sounds plausible to me.  I could also see him getting upset with an officer for a light ticket a 3pm and the two getting in an "I'm right" confrontation, which the man with the gun always wins.  BUT, if Biker's side of the story is correct then I'm with him... seems like BS.

OH TO HAVE DASH CAMS!

No charges are currently filed in Tulsa County.  The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.  The cop was harassing him (no light at 3pm?) but then the Fox did not handle it well and threw a fit... giving the cop an excuse to treat him like a man throwing a fit.  Just my guess.

(http://iic.tulsacounty.org/Mugshots/1165413_1213777_f.jpg)
Offenses
Description   Case #   Court Date   Bond Type   Bond Amt   Disposition
BICYCLE - NOT RIDING ON RIGHT      12/10/2008   Surety Bond   $44.00   112 - Bond (Surety/Cash)
OBSTRUCT OR RESIST OFFICERS      12/10/2008   Surety Bond   $150.00   112 - Bond (Surety/Cash)
NO BICYCLE LIGHT      12/10/2008   Surety Bond   $44.00   112 - Bond (Surety/Cash)
http://iic.tulsacounty.org/InmateDetails.aspx?Id=1213777





uh, what is that in his nose?  a piercing or a really gross booger?



The ticket should have been for the clinker in his nose....
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: patric on December 09, 2008, 11:04:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

But I got to go with the officer on this one.

This biker clown was asking to be confronted and when had the chance, responded poorly to the officer.

Showing off on a center median in the busiest intersection in town seems a very stupid thing to do.


Im not as certain as you are on this.
Neither one of these characters have a stellar reputation, and its looking like the cop was the one that precipitated the confrontation so any claims he made would be in question.

A good candidate for steroid testing, maybe?

Im mostly disappointed in the poor quality of KOTV's one-sided "crime reporting" which barely qualifies as reporting.
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: Hawkins on December 09, 2008, 03:41:48 PM
If you back-talk the wrong TPD officers, they WILL instigate a fight with you and take you down.

Fox is harmless, albeit quite a bit on the loony side.
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: Nick Danger on December 09, 2008, 04:59:32 PM
Somehow I don't find the gross mug shot of him any more disgusting than the pictures of him on his website. Ewwwwww!
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: ARGUS on December 09, 2008, 10:22:49 PM
The Biker Fox has had a close call with me before by his bad antics and poor riding?driving skills (meaning compliance with rules of the road).
I say pancakes too if I were ticketed for a "no light" on a bicycle at 3pm.
Put 'em both in a cell together for 3 days and call it a wash.
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: tim huntzinger on December 10, 2008, 10:17:16 AM
We are going to have lunch Thursday.  Any questions anyone wants asked?  Notice the KOTV comment section was removed from their story? Last I saw there were about 600 comments!
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: TUalum0982 on December 10, 2008, 11:52:14 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger

We are going to have lunch Thursday.  Any questions anyone wants asked?  Notice the KOTV comment section was removed from their story? Last I saw there were about 600 comments!



I was wondering the same thing.  I wanted to read the comments!! I stumbled upon his website a few yrs back, he had TONS of pictures of Jenks Cheerleaders up on his site, along with some glamour shot type photos among some others.  I was told he owns some type of classic car parts business? any truth to that?
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: Breadburner on December 12, 2008, 04:54:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger

We are going to have lunch Thursday.  Any questions anyone wants asked?  Notice the KOTV comment section was removed from their story? Last I saw there were about 600 comments!



I was wondering the same thing.  I wanted to read the comments!! I stumbled upon his website a few yrs back, he had TONS of pictures of Jenks Cheerleaders up on his site, along with some glamour shot type photos among some others.  I was told he owns some type of classic car parts business? any truth to that?



He does own a classic car parts biz...Called Billions and Trillions....He does well at it....

http://www.billionsandtrillionsinc.com/
Title: Biker Fox
Post by: swake on December 13, 2008, 07:28:23 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger

We are going to have lunch Thursday.  Any questions anyone wants asked?  Notice the KOTV comment section was removed from their story? Last I saw there were about 600 comments!



I was wondering the same thing.  I wanted to read the comments!! I stumbled upon his website a few yrs back, he had TONS of pictures of Jenks Cheerleaders up on his site, along with some glamour shot type photos among some others.  I was told he owns some type of classic car parts business? any truth to that?



And not just Jenks Cheerleaders, Jenks MIDDLE SCHOOL Cheerleaders.

That seems far from harmless.
Title: Re: Biker Fox
Post by: patric on April 27, 2010, 02:11:25 PM
Quote"Bf was riding his bike in the right lane. Stopped at 68th & memorial. Pike rides up on a bicycle I coudn't believe it. He says he is going to write me a ticket for not having a light on the back of my bike in the middle of the day. At night I have 2-3 flashers. So we stop he starts writing me a ticket, I said why are you being such an a.h. and harassing me. He said go sit down there now. I laid my bike down when I did Channel 6, my front tire barely touched his rear tire. He said you just assaulted a Police Officer. Your kidding right? So while I am kneeling down he proseeds to put me in a choke hold. No warning nothing. He keeps saying stop resisting. Resisting? I am flat on my face. About to pass OUT! Finally he Knocks me out channel 6 but thats ok right Channel 6. You trust all the Police right?, keep in mind he has been harrassing me for 8 years & counting. He is the ONLY cop to write me a ticket in the last 15 monthes. Now thats not Police Harrassment and Brutality. Man I can see bloggers are usually haters on the internet. Thanks to the many whom support me. Doing the right thing when your about to soar with the Eagles brings out the Snipers.
Come on haters yopu just make me stronger. When the Judge Finds out the police are harrassing me again She will throw it out. Maybe the D.A. will get tired of the Police harrassing me. The will finally put a stop to this one cop. Just one Pike. The dishonest bad apple."

Turned out to be the same Officer Pike that got a later brutality case settled out of court.
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=11990.0   (Officers Beat Up Juvenile?)

And he walked.
It's not like there werent warning signs...


EDIT TO ADD
After leaving Tulsa this officer once again found himself in the headlines:

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime/893346.html
http://www.wpbf.com/news/24852930/detail.html

JUPITER, Fla. -- Two West Palm Beach police officers were arrested in connection with vandalism done to two vehicles in Abacoa.
Jupiter police said witnesses called 911 after seeing two men near their vehicles in an Abacoa parking garage early Thursday morning.
Police said when officers arrived, they found two vehicles had been significantly damaged and the two men were standing between them.

The men, later identified as Christopher Clark and Timothy Pike, were arrested on felony criminal mischief charges. Jupiter police said the men are West Palm Beach police officers.

Bar manager Michael Stuve said he and a co-worker called police after seeing the officers near his new truck.
"They were both kind of straddling the open door of my truck, and they were just trying to say it was their truck and they were wanting to drive home," Stuve said.

Police said the officers ripped off Stuve's gas cap cover, broke his mirror and scratched the side of his truck. Pieces of his truck could be seen on the ground in the parking garage later in the day.
"Noises that I heard when I was walking up the stairwell was probably the breaking sounds of our mirrors and maybe the gas cap," Stuve said.

It was only later that he learned the men are police officers.
"That totally blew me away," Stuve said.

Jumby Bay owner Vicki Griest said she was also shocked to learn the suspects are police officers.

"We've been working really hard on keeping this area crime-free, and to have the West Palm Beach police officers vandalizing cars, that's just -- I'm shocked, completely shocked," Griest said.

(http://www.wpbf.com/2010/0902/24854227_640X480.jpg)
Read more: http://www.wpbf.com/news/24852930/detail.html#ixzz1hfIfeeki