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Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: swake on November 05, 2008, 03:16:43 PM
Due to the economy retailers aren't expanding. No real surprise here.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20081105_298_Alth470578

Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: Stone on November 05, 2008, 04:21:07 PM
Buffalo Wild Wings was supposed to build there at one time. Can't imagine why that would be put on hold. The BA restuarant does great business and that developement seems in high need of more dining options.
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: Who Cares on November 05, 2008, 10:08:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Stone

Buffalo Wild Wings was supposed to build there at one time. Can't imagine why that would be put on hold. The BA restuarant does great business and that developement seems in high need of more dining options.


They are already building Buffalo Wild Wings on the south side of the development, beams are already up.
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: BKDotCom on November 06, 2008, 07:18:52 AM
KJRH reported last night that nothing is on hold.
http://www.kjrh.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=5ac6b434-34ff-4f46-8841-d5d4bb50372a
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: sgrizzle on November 25, 2008, 12:59:16 PM
I've seen where BW3 is going and about 3 more large stores (one if which is academy I believe) are under construction on the west side and Ulta is under construction on the east side next to Target. Other than JCPenney and a couple of outparcels, phase 1 seems to be wrapping up pretty soon.
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: sgrizzle on November 25, 2008, 01:06:42 PM
Here is an updated site plan, FYI:
http://cdx.xceligent.com/Attachments/508/1362508.pdf

I don't see academy on there..
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: BKDotCom on November 25, 2008, 01:56:00 PM
Whataburger and RibCrib?!
Oh... and a Cracker Barrel is going next to Chili's.  Arby's and Walgreens going in on 71st... because  we don't already have enough of them.

*sigh*
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: Townsend on November 25, 2008, 02:43:20 PM
It looks so walkable.  Lowe's to Rib Crib to Best Buy...oh, the sun's going down.  

Maybe Blake's trolley can just run around in there all weekend.

Think I'll remain a mid-town snob.
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: inteller on November 25, 2008, 03:01:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

Whataburger and RibCrib?!
Oh... and a Cracker Barrel is going next to Chili's.  Arby's and Walgreens going in on 71st... because  we don't already have enough of them.

*sigh*



Cracker Barrel will be a hit right there off the exit.  so many food choices...man the nearby subdivisions will never have to cook at home!
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: RecycleMichael on November 25, 2008, 03:01:24 PM
If Hooter's is a sexist restaurant, is Cracker Barrel racist?
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: sgrizzle on November 25, 2008, 03:02:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

Whataburger and RibCrib?!
Oh... and a Cracker Barrel is going next to Chili's.  Arby's and Walgreens going in on 71st... because  we don't already have enough of them.

*sigh*



Cracker Barrel will be a hit right there off the exit.  so many food choices...man the nearby subdivisions will never have to cook at home!



This shopping center was built to serve Glenpool, Sapulpa, Keifer, Okmulgee, Bixby and Jenks.

Cracker Barrel will be SRO.
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: inteller on November 25, 2008, 03:04:27 PM
i'm just glad they are getting a Major Tenant A!  I haven't shopped at an MTA store in ages!
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: TheArtist on November 25, 2008, 03:58:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Here is an updated site plan, FYI:
http://cdx.xceligent.com/Attachments/508/1362508.pdf

I don't see academy on there..



That just shows Phase 1, the northern half.

Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: swake on November 25, 2008, 04:59:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Here is an updated site plan, FYI:
http://cdx.xceligent.com/Attachments/508/1362508.pdf

I don't see academy on there..



That just shows Phase 1, the northern half.





In previous site plans the "future retail" and Dollar Tree next to Michaels were Academy Sports, Major Tenant A was JC Penny's, Whataburger was Old Chicago, and Arby's was Chick-Fil-A.

These are not upgrades. It's understandable with the economy but these are real downgrades from what was going in. Retailers are dropping and out and are being replaced by cheap fast food chains, Dollar Tree and empty spots.
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: Composer on November 25, 2008, 11:42:02 PM
I still bet Chick-Fil-A will be a part of the project (Phase II). They are always the last to go into developments.  The owner of the 71st and Garnett location and Woodland Hills Mall location said they were the last to go in at Eastside Marketplace.  They were one of the last in the Owasso development and they have their eyes set on a location in Broken Arrow (probably the Target development).  They will be the last ones in there too.  

This is just a bad time to be in the retail business.  There are many great retail sites all around the Tulsa area that are on hold due to the economy.
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: TeeDub on December 02, 2008, 12:54:12 PM

How is this the only strip center in town without a liquor store and a nail salon/tanning booth place?

Only a matter of time I bet.
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: sgrizzle on December 02, 2008, 01:26:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TeeDub


How is this the only strip center in town without a liquor store and a nail salon/tanning booth place?

Only a matter of time I bet.




Considering you have roughly a mile-long (end to end) center with no grocery store either, I'm not too surprised. There is also no entertainment establishments either (theater, arcade, incredible pizza, etc)

If Casa Bonitas wanted to survive, they would close 21st and Sheridan and build a nice one (closer to the one in Denver) here. Tons of suburbanites would eat there on the way to Belk.
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: TUalum0982 on December 06, 2008, 12:33:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by TeeDub


How is this the only strip center in town without a liquor store and a nail salon/tanning booth place?

Only a matter of time I bet.




Considering you have roughly a mile-long (end to end) center with no grocery store either, I'm not too surprised. There is also no entertainment establishments either (theater, arcade, incredible pizza, etc)

If Casa Bonitas wanted to survive, they would close 21st and Sheridan and build a nice one (closer to the one in Denver) here. Tons of suburbanites would eat there on the way to Belk.



Last I heard (about a month ago) there is a "major hotel" and movie theater in the works for Tulsa Hills.  I will find out again this weekend to make sure it is still on track.  With the economy the way it is, it may have been pushed back.
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: sgrizzle on December 06, 2008, 07:35:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982


Last I heard (about a month ago) there is a "major hotel" and movie theater in the works for Tulsa Hills.  I will find out again this weekend to make sure it is still on track.  With the economy the way it is, it may have been pushed back.




Theaters are something that sadly get very little upkeep done. The owners just hang onto them and turn them into $1 theaters instead of keeping them up to date. Riverwalk has shown a good modern theater can be built and run fairly inexpensively and I'm hoping Tulsa Hills does the same.

All digital screens please.
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: Composer on December 06, 2008, 09:05:50 PM
At one time there was a rumor about Warren Theatres coming to Tulsa Hills.  They want to be in the Tulsa market for sure and are looking in the area.
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: TheArtist on December 06, 2008, 11:20:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Composer

At one time there was a rumor about Warren Theatres coming to Tulsa Hills.  They want to be in the Tulsa market for sure and are looking in the area.



I can see them going to the River District.

Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: joiei on December 07, 2008, 09:14:23 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:
Originally posted by Composer

At one time there was a rumor about Warren Theatres coming to Tulsa Hills.  They want to be in the Tulsa market for sure and are looking in the area.



I can see them going to the River District.



With the economy is that river developement a reality now?
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: Composer on December 07, 2008, 01:17:06 PM
I think it is a reality but downsized.  I would not expect to see huge retail announcements soon.  Projects all across the metro are stalled except for a few things.  

If the whole project goes as planned, I would expect it to take longer to become reality.
Title: Tulsa Hills Phase 2 Expansion on Hold
Post by: TheArtist on December 07, 2008, 03:27:35 PM
The demographics in that area are still unheard of for just about any place in the midwest. This is a big project and will take most of this "recession" just to get it started. By the time they get a few chunks of it done in 2010-11, the economy will be back on the upswing again. Build it now while building is cheap, then have it ready when people are spending again. Perfect timing, especially if they already have the financing for it. Likely we will know much of the story on this development (how much, how fast, whats the national and local economic scenario looking like) by this coming summer when actual construction is due to start.