Channel 23, on the 9; 00 0'cLOCK NEWS Tuesday night, had a lengthily clip on the alarming increase of the sales of assault riffles.
The intent could have been an attempt to intimidate the voters by recalling the civil war between The United States of the North and the United States of the South both with separate governments, which some 25% of the participants were casualties. At present we are trying to right the abuse created as an after mat of our history that is an embarrassment today in Tulsa.
Should we allow such clips to determine by immature fancies such suggestions to be determined by race, the edibility of a person to be president?
Does one feel the availability of assault rifles channel our security to a single path of rebellion to be curbed now?.
Or is the time chosen for total gun control?
Just bitter Americans clinging to their guns and religion. Besides, semi-automatics are a total gas to shoot.
Channel 6 ran a similar story this morning. They interviewed the owners of Medlock Firearms and they said people are as leery of McCain on gun policy as Obama. Personally, I don't get that angle, but whatever.
I'm willing to bet the Wanenmacher gun show next weekend will probably have record sales.
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Originally posted by shadows
Channel 23, on the 9; 00 0�cLOCK NEWS Tuesday night, had a lengthily clip on the alarming increase of the sales of assault riffles.
I call BS... I doubt that "Assault Rifles" are being sold, since they have been illegal since the National Firearms Act in 1934, and requires a Class "C" license to possess. What they are referring to are mis-named "Assault Weapons" in which the only difference between them and hunting rifles are how "scary" they look and accessories.
Good call juan. The "assault weapons ban" literally classified weapons by how many "evil" features they had. It really had little to do with capability. A pistol grip, threaded barrel, high capacity magazine, bayonet lug, folding stock... I can't remember them all now. It really was about what made a firearm "look" dangerous. Certainly a semi automatic shotgun, a mini-14 (always in full compliance), or a C&R M1 Garand could do as much, and often more, damage than the vast majority of banned weapons. But damnit, they don't look as scary.
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I'm not really sure what you are getting at Shadows (as usual), if you are asking if more assault rifles are being sold because there will be a rebellion if Barrack Obama is elected - the answer is no. Should we ban more firearms? No. Total gun control? Hell no.
Really it is simple, when Democrats are in office a new "assault weapons ban" will probably be put in place. The result is to make assault weapons more expensive (and no, none, ZERO effect on crime). Thus, people are buying them now to either save money on their purchase or to profit on the resale later.
When the first one went into place I sold 4 AK-47's I purchased for $185 each for $350 each. I used the profit to purchase a brand new Romanian SAR (7.62x39) when the ban was lifted. I also held an importers license and imported a good number of exempt rifles during that time (a dozen at a time via NATO member Turkey - Mausers, Garands, etc.). So I'd like to thank Bill Clinton for completely paying for my weapons collection.
The best way to punish gun makers/importers/sellers is to increase the price of their products. [;)]
So economics is driving the increased sale of assault weapons, not a desire for armed rebellion.
My "shadows decoder ring" didn't come with instructions so here is the two translations I came up with:
1. Fox23 is running a story to call "the south" into an uprising against "the north" (Obama Supporters) and help get McCain Elected.
2. Beaver whistle tombstone. The Nachos run with spatulas.
hey, the rooftop voters have to get a say too!
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Originally posted by shadows
Channel 23, on the 9; 00 0'cLOCK NEWS Tuesday night, had a lengthily clip on the alarming increase of the sales of assault riffles.
Oh, it was assault riffles. That is different.
According to wikipedia...
A riffle (also known as a swift) is a shallow stretch of a river or stream, where the current is above the average stream velocity and where the water forms small rippled waves as a result. It often consists of a rocky bed of gravels or other small stones. This portion of a stream is often an important habitat for small aquatic invertebrates and juvenile fishes.This seems to be a stupid thing to assault someone with.
Maybe shadows was talking about the amount of salt in our river. That makes more sense.
What did sodium have chloride arrested for?
Assault.
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Shadows
Should we allow such clips to determine by immature fancies such suggestions to be determined by race, the edibility of a person to be president?
That was the winner for me. Not to be harsh Shadows, but can you really read that statement and get meaning?
Personally, if I was choosing a president just on the edibility, I would choose McCain. Honestly, I live chocolate but I think it's over rated. Why is vanilla such a "plain" flavor. It has as much merit as chocolate.
If it wasn't meant as a metaphor, I'd choose Obama. McCain is certainly to old. His meat would be grizzly and lanky.
Of course, the passage above illustrates a tenancy to forget articles. Perhaps the outcome was to be determined by "a race" and not by just race. In which case Obama
clearly has an advantage because he's, ahhh, he has longer legs.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Good call juan. The "assault weapons ban" literally classified weapons by how many "evil" features they had. It really had little to do with capability. A pistol grip, threaded barrel, high capacity magazine, bayonet lug, folding stock... I can't remember them all now. It really was about what made a firearm "look" dangerous. Certainly a semi automatic shotgun, a mini-14 (always in full compliance), or a C&R M1 Garand could do as much, and often more, damage than the vast majority of banned weapons. But damnit, they don't look as scary.
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I'm not really sure what you are getting at Shadows (as usual), if you are asking if more assault rifles are being sold because there will be a rebellion if Barrack Obama is elected - the answer is no. Should we ban more firearms? No. Total gun control? Hell no.
Really it is simple, when Democrats are in office a new "assault weapons ban" will probably be put in place. The result is to make assault weapons more expensive (and no, none, ZERO effect on crime). Thus, people are buying them now to either save money on their purchase or to profit on the resale later.
When the first one went into place I sold 4 AK-47's I purchased for $185 each for $350 each. I used the profit to purchase a brand new Romanian SAR (7.62x39) when the ban was lifted. I also held an importers license and imported a good number of exempt rifles during that time (a dozen at a time via NATO member Turkey - Mausers, Garands, etc.). So I'd like to thank Bill Clinton for completely paying for my weapons collection.
The best way to punish gun makers/importers/sellers is to increase the price of their products. [;)]
So economics is driving the increased sale of assault weapons, not a desire for armed rebellion.
The 7.54 x 39 round through an M-44 or your 8mm Turkish Mauser will do a lot more damage than the AR-15, but it sure is fun to squeeze off 30 rounds as fast as your finger will allow.
BTW- your analysis is spot-on.
^^^^^^^ Gunshow fanboyism.
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Originally posted by we vs us
^^^^^^^ Gunshow fanboyism.
Yes indeed, I love things that go "bang".
You are more than welcome to come along next time I go exercize my 2nd Amendment rights. I think you'd enjoy yourself.
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by we vs us
^^^^^^^ Gunshow fanboyism.
Yes indeed, I love things that go "bang".
You are more than welcome to come along next time I go exercize my 2nd Amendment rights. I think you'd enjoy yourself.
It's true. I have a lot of issues I need to work through. Not sure I should be armed when I do, though. I don't want to exercize my rights so hard I get a sprain.
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Originally posted by Conan71
The 7.54 x 39 round through an M-44 or your 8mm Turkish Mauser will do a lot more damage than the AR-15, but it sure is fun to squeeze off 30 rounds as fast as your finger will allow.
I think you are confusing your calibers.
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Originally posted by TeeDub
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Originally posted by Conan71
The 7.54 x 39 round through an M-44 or your 8mm Turkish Mauser will do a lot more damage than the AR-15, but it sure is fun to squeeze off 30 rounds as fast as your finger will allow.
I think you are confusing your calibers.
Nice catch, meant 7.62 x 54 in the M-44.
The M-44 did come chambered in a 7.62x39mm, though the 7.62x54 was MUCH more popular as the 39 was a rechamber. There is much cross over between the AK and the M-44 as far as caliber - Kalashnikov merely chopped down the round to make his design initially and now the AK being more popularly manufacturing in the 54 (for military use).
BUT, his point was the M-44 is a bolt action rifle that would do more damage than his AR, but not nearly as much damage as my 8mm Mauser. And nearly every rifle will do more damage than the 5.56 AR. Thus, the "evil" assault rifle thing is a joke.
I need to shoot something.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
The M-44 did come chambered in a 7.62x39mm, though the 7.62x54 was MUCH more popular as the 39 was a rechamber. There is much cross over between the AK and the M-44 as far as caliber - Kalashnikov merely chopped down the round to make his design initially and now the AK being more popularly manufacturing in the 54 (for military use).
BUT, his point was the M-44 is a bolt action rifle that would do more damage than his AR, but not nearly as much damage as my 8mm Mauser. And nearly every rifle will do more damage than the 5.56 AR. Thus, the "evil" assault rifle thing is a joke.
I need to shoot something.
My M-44 shatters sandstone just as nice as your Mauser.
BTW, I've got a ton of plastic soda bottles saved up from work that need to filled w/ water and shot before heading to the recycler.
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Good call juan. The "assault weapons ban" literally classified weapons by how many "evil" features they had. It really had little to do with capability. A pistol grip, threaded barrel, high capacity magazine, bayonet lug, folding stock... I can't remember them all now. It really was about what made a firearm "look" dangerous. Certainly a semi automatic shotgun, a mini-14 (always in full compliance), or a C&R M1 Garand could do as much, and often more, damage than the vast majority of banned weapons. But damnit, they don't look as scary.
- - -
I'm not really sure what you are getting at Shadows (as usual), if you are asking if more assault rifles are being sold because there will be a rebellion if Barrack Obama is elected - the answer is no. Should we ban more firearms? No. Total gun control? Hell no.
Really it is simple, when Democrats are in office a new "assault weapons ban" will probably be put in place. The result is to make assault weapons more expensive (and no, none, ZERO effect on crime). Thus, people are buying them now to either save money on their purchase or to profit on the resale later.
When the first one went into place I sold 4 AK-47's I purchased for $185 each for $350 each. I used the profit to purchase a brand new Romanian SAR (7.62x39) when the ban was lifted. I also held an importers license and imported a good number of exempt rifles during that time (a dozen at a time via NATO member Turkey - Mausers, Garands, etc.). So I'd like to thank Bill Clinton for completely paying for my weapons collection.
The best way to punish gun makers/importers/sellers is to increase the price of their products. [;)]
So economics is driving the increased sale of assault weapons, not a desire for armed rebellion.
The 7.54 x 39 round through an M-44 or your 8mm Turkish Mauser will do a lot more damage than the AR-15, but it sure is fun to squeeze off 30 rounds as fast as your finger will allow.
BTW- your analysis is spot-on.
In my best Beavis and Butthead voice: You said "squeeze off".
Sorry, had a middle school moment.
I hate to be the first person to ever engage in thread drift on TNF, but is Beavis & Butthead still anywhere on the digital dial?
Gawd I miss them.
NO, but if you have AT&T Wireless with a media package (itnernet), you can access a dozen or so episodes.
how many hail mary's?
A thousand!
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
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Originally posted by shadows
Channel 23, on the 9; 00 0'cLOCK NEWS Tuesday night, had a lengthily clip on the alarming increase of the sales of assault riffles.
Oh, it was assault riffles. That is different.
According to wikipedia...A riffle (also known as a swift) is a shallow stretch of a river or stream, where the current is above the average stream velocity and where the water forms small rippled waves as a result. It often consists of a rocky bed of gravels or other small stones. This portion of a stream is often an important habitat for small aquatic invertebrates and juvenile fishes.
This seems to be a stupid thing to assault someone with.
Maybe shadows was talking about the amount of salt in our river. That makes more sense.
What did sodium have chloride arrested for?
Assault.
Hey you surn r rite as checking in my nay-sayer note book the page was stuck together whereas I was copying from the riffles to be created in the children death trap in river improvements. As you are aware over 80% of the building and homes North of 51st street in the local Arkansas drainage basin contain lead in paints and plumbing that was once required by city ordinance. This heavy metal that sinks to the bottom of still water is causing an alarming increase in lead poison among the unborn and children. EPA has not began to address the urban threat which would cause the removal all lead in our water system like they did lead in gasoline. Sorry I will be sure the pages are not stuck together in the future. Another super fund on the way?
Wow. That first sentence there Shadows is a new, ummm, high point.
Lead contamination is still an issue, but far, far less than it was 60+ years ago when lead plumbing was no longer used and 30+ years ago when lead paint was ceased. I have no seen a single study that indicates lead poisoning is on the rise.
And a super fund to clear all lead from waterways? Really? Lets dredge the bottom of every water way in the nation and cart the waste to a disposal site. Odds of that being necessary are slim, odds of it happening are absolute zero.
And, of course, it is entirely possible that I, again, just have no farkin' clue what you are talking about. For a while you really got on the wagon and wrote clear posts. You have descended back into trying to sound impressive. The result is the above ramble.
And what the hell does lead have to do with the increased sale of assault "riffles?"
Gizoogle appears to be down, so I've had no luck translating it into anything I can understand.
I own a couple of "assault" rifles and I admit they are a blast to shoot. I have an SKS modified to hunt with that is perfectly legal but looks a bit daunting (scares the crap out of the deer). I also have an old german 8mm (the model escapes me) that was liberated after WW2 by a relative.
In all honesty, my 7mm mag hunting rifle is far more dangerous then anything else I own, it just looks more conventional.
The media uses the term "assault weapon" to classify anything they think looks scary. It's a great term to raise eyebrows among the low-brows.
You can tone down your "assault weapons" with some simple cosmetic alterations that will make your friends and neighbors less likely to label you as a "bitter clinger."
I prefer the Hello Kitty AK-47 kit.
(http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_pics/14992/Hello_Kitty_AK47_1.jpg)
Or the popular "My Little Carbine."
(http://www.glamguns.com/mylittleponycarbine.jpg)
(http://bp1.blogger.com/_IYGS0kYgO5M/R5BNhI4LM0I/AAAAAAAAAI0/atrOL5gJA8w/s320/ak47.jpg)
How many copies of the naysayer notebook are in print now? I heard it was recently translated into English (sometimes called American) but I haven't been able to get my hands on one.
Why worry about lead paint and lead pipes?
I mean WalMart and the Chinese put lead right into the kiddo's face paint. The best part is it says so right on the package.
http://walmartwatch.com/blog/archives/wal_mart_selling_lead_paintto_put_on_your_kids_face/