Are there any grocery stores in the Tulsa area that double coupons? I know there used to be, but haven't seen any lately. We need to get Kroger in here to stir up some competition, but they probably won't because we can't sell wine in the grocery stores here.
I think the only grocery in Tulsa that still has double coupons is Homeland, but you have to be signed up for their Homeland customer card to take advantage of special pricing and double coupons.
Food Pyramid does everyday up to .50 cents.
Homeland does Triple coupons a couple of times a year as well. The only weird rule at homeland is you can only use one of a coupon so if you have two coupons for $1 off a 12 pack, you have to buy them seperately.
I have found that Tulsa does not have good food stores like other cities. In Omaha we have HyVee stores that have super in-store bakeries and low prices they also sell hot food items, the stores are huge, modern and clean, they also have a Bakers stores (Bakers Stores are the Kroger stores in Omaha) and stores like "Food 4 Less" and "Bag 'N' Save", plus Aldi stores and "Save-A-Lot" stores. Many Tulsa stores seem old and outdated. The store most up-to date in Tulsa is the Reasoners Stores. I see a big vacuum of good food stores in Tulsa, ripe for a new food chain to move in and corner the market. Tulsa's Homeland Store and Warehouse Market are old out-dated stores and look like they have not changed since the 1960's. My favorite home improvement store does not market in Oklahoma - Mennards that store can run circles around Home depot & Lowes. I wish Mennards would open a few stores in Oklahoma.
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"I have" "HyVee"'s "and" "have" "huge" "Mennards"
That is just as helpful as your real post.
but...but...we have so many Wal*Marts! Please don't look down on us [:(]
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I have found that Tulsa does not have good food stores like other cities. In Omaha we have HyVee stores that have super in-store bakeries and low prices they also sell hot food items, the stores are huge, modern and clean, they also have a Bakers stores (Kroger store Bakers is Omaha's Krogers) and stores like "Food 4 Less" and "Bag 'N' Save", plus Aldi stores and "Save-A-Lot" stores. Many Tulsa stores seem old and outdated. The store most up-to date in Tulsa is the Reasoners Stores. I see a big vacuum of good food stores in Tulsa, ripe for a new food chain to move in and corner the market. Tulsa's Homeland Store and Warehouse Market are old out-dated stores and look like they have not changed since the 1960's. My favorite home improvement store does not market in Oklahoma - Mennards that store can run circles around Home depot & Lowes. I wish Mennards would open a few stores in Oklahoma.
We have Aldi and Save-A-Lot and Food Pyramid which is a new chain developed for Oklahoma by Kroger's.
Food Pyramid is not connected with Krogers --
"In 1919, John Ramey bought a small grocery store in Springfield, Mo., with his mustering-out pay from the army. It was a small, neighborhood grocery store which proved to be successful, and eventually he expanded to a total of eight small stores.
In 1939, Ramey boldly established the first modern supermarket in this area. It was located in an empty field outside of town. People thought he was crazy for building a store out in the country, but this turned out to be one of the most successful ventures in the food business in the area.
During the war it was difficult to obtain merchandise for eight stores, so John Ramey consolidated all of his stores into this one supermarket and permanently closed the other small stores. This transition marked an important milestone in Ramey history. In 1946, John Ramey sold his supermarket to two gentlemen from Kansas City. These people followed with a second Ramey Supermarket in 1954, another one in 1957, and one more in 1965, all of which were located in Springfield.
On January 15, 1967, the stores were sold to a new corporation, the Cohen family through Roswil Inc., a Maryland-based company that was taking its first venture into the supermarket industry. Initially under the management of Richard Taylor, the small chain of stores grew beyond southwest Missouri by acquisition and consolidation in rural markets.
Richard Taylor transitioned the management of Ramey to his son Erick in 1993. Erick Taylor continued to expand the company through a combination of acquisition and new store development. As part of this process, many Ramey stores were converted to the Price Cutter banner, primarily in the metropolitan Springfield, Missouri, area.
In April of 2002, Price Cutter acquired seven Albertson's stores in southwest Missouri, which now operate under the banners of Price Cutter Plus and Smitty's. Inside these stores, customers find full-service Starbucks kiosks, large international aisles, an extensive variety of natural and organic foods and products, and fresh sushi prepared daily. The format is a Price Cutter store "Plus," hence the name.
Because the company started operating with more than two banners, RPCS Inc. (an acronym for Ramey/Price Cutter/Smitty's) was established in 2004 as the parent company's name.
In July 2007, RPCS Inc. acquired nine Albertson's stores in the Tulsa area, adding yet another name. Food Pyramid was born. This concept was new and innovative, with a goal of providing helpful nutritional information in order for consumers to make informed decisions about what they feed their families.
Since its initial acquisition of stores, the company has successfully transformed itself into a multi-bannered chain, providing customers in three states with new facilities, full-service departments, and more variety.
Today, RPCS Inc. operates a total of 42 retail grocery stores – 33 in Missouri under the Ramey, Price Cutter, Price Cutter Plus, and Smitty's banners; one Save-A-Lot store in Siloam Springs, Ark.; and nine Food Pyramid stores in Tulsa, Bartlesville, Ponca City and Stillwater, Okla. The company also offers online grocery shopping in the Springfield and Joplin areas."
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but...but...we have so many Wal*Marts! Please don't look down on us [:(]
That's one area Omaha is lacking in, we don't have as many Wal-Marts. I'm not looking down at Tulsa, I'm just saying what Tulsa could do to make it better. Tulsa's market could be attractive for a big food chain store to move into the area. For a city with 800,000 people in the metro- population the food store selection is not like what other cities have. Tulsa & Omaha are very simular cities both have almost exactly the same population and Omaha has many more food stores. I just made a suggestion how Tulsa can be even better.
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Originally posted by sauerkraut
I have found that Tulsa does not have good food stores like other cities. In Omaha we have HyVee stores that have super in-store bakeries and low prices they also sell hot food items, the stores are huge, modern and clean, they also have a Bakers stores (Kroger store Bakers is Omaha's Krogers) and stores like "Food 4 Less" and "Bag 'N' Save", plus Aldi stores and "Save-A-Lot" stores. Many Tulsa stores seem old and outdated. The store most up-to date in Tulsa is the Reasoners Stores. I see a big vacuum of good food stores in Tulsa, ripe for a new food chain to move in and corner the market. Tulsa's Homeland Store and Warehouse Market are old out-dated stores and look like they have not changed since the 1960's. My favorite home improvement store does not market in Oklahoma - Mennards that store can run circles around Home depot & Lowes. I wish Mennards would open a few stores in Oklahoma.
We have Aldi and Save-A-Lot and Food Pyramid which is a new chain developed for Oklahoma by Kroger's.
That's right. Sheridan & 21st has a "Save-A-Lot" Food store it's right next to Big Lots. I forgot about that. Didn't Tulsa use-to have "Food-4-Less" Store about 10 years ago? maybe I'm thinking about OKC.
Reasor's and Hyvee are pretty comparable. At least from the 24 years I lived in a state with a Hyvee, that's my take.
Homeland sucks something serious. Prices are higher. The selection is weak. And the liens are way, way too long. I can go the extra mile to Reasor's or Walmart and get the item just about as fast.
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Originally posted by sauerkraut
I have found that Tulsa does not have good food stores like other cities. In Omaha we have HyVee stores that have super in-store bakeries and low prices they also sell hot food items, the stores are huge, modern and clean, they also have a Bakers stores (Kroger store Bakers is Omaha's Krogers) and stores like "Food 4 Less" and "Bag 'N' Save", plus Aldi stores and "Save-A-Lot" stores. Many Tulsa stores seem old and outdated. The store most up-to date in Tulsa is the Reasoners Stores. I see a big vacuum of good food stores in Tulsa, ripe for a new food chain to move in and corner the market. Tulsa's Homeland Store and Warehouse Market are old out-dated stores and look like they have not changed since the 1960's. My favorite home improvement store does not market in Oklahoma - Mennards that store can run circles around Home depot & Lowes. I wish Mennards would open a few stores in Oklahoma.
We have Aldi and Save-A-Lot and Food Pyramid which is a new chain developed for Oklahoma by Kroger's.
That's right. Sheridan & 21st has a "Save-A-Lot" Food store it's right next to Big Lots. I forgot about that. Didn't Tulsa use-to have "Food-4-Less" Store about 10 years ago? maybe I'm thinking about OKC.
We used to have a "buy for less" at 44 and peoria. Then it changed to Sutherlands express, and now it is some plumbing supply store I believe. I agree Warehouse market and Homeland are outdated. Kind of remind me of the old bud's (and before that, sipes) at 61st and yale in the old shopping center where Pei Wei and the ice cream store are now. I am just fine with our grocery store selections. Between Reasor's and Walmart, I can find we we need.
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Reasor's and Hyvee are pretty comparable. At least from the 24 years I lived in a state with a Hyvee, that's my take.
Homeland sucks something serious. Prices are higher. The selection is weak. And the liens are way, way too long. I can go the extra mile to Reasor's or Walmart and get the item just about as fast.
The new HyVee stores in Omaha are huge and larger than a Reasoners Store. The HyVee Stores have a in-store bakery that pumps out all sorts of goodies and a big selection of hot foods to go. Reasoner's Bakery is not bad, but the cookies selection is poor and many times they are out-dated, I wonder when they replace their cookies in the bin (Yale & 41st Store). I found that both Warehouse Market & Homeland are overpriced, the stores look like they came out of the 1960's. Homeland stores requires a "Homeland discount card" to get some sale items.. The Tulsa Pyramid store at Harvard & 51st has a good in-store bakery they made yummy muffins and cookies. The last time I was in there The bakery girl told me the cookies are 25 cents each but they ring up 2 for a dollar at the check-outs.[:O]
Go back a few years and does anyone remember the Tulsa "Safeway" stores? They had one at Denver & 11th many decades ago. I don't know if that chain just quit marketing in Oklahoma or if they went out of business or got bought out. I lived in Texas at the time and all the Texas Safeway stores closed up around 1984. Funny thing is they just built and opened a new Safeway Store across from 6-Flags Amusement Park right off of I-30 in Arlington, Texas. It was a huge modern store and it was open for about a year before it closed up. The Tulsa Piggley Wiggley Store on Admeral looks just like the Piggley Wiggley Store we had in Fort Worth, Texas on HempHill road just south of Magnolia in 1980. I lived near that area in 1980. The store in Fort Worth is long since gone. The Tulsa store is very old and outdated that it has a charm all it's own, it feels like you went back in time, I liked it, but the neighborhood is not that safe I would not shop there at night, however, the store has pretty good prices, Parts of Admeral Road in Tulsa look alot like parts of HempHill Road in Fort Worth, same kind of buildings. Felt like a trip in a "Way-Back Machine".[:)]
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Go back a few years and does anyone remember the Tulsa "Safeway" stores? They had one at Denver & 11th many decades ago. I don't know if that chain just quit marketing in Oklahoma or if they went out of business or got bought out. I lived in Texas at the time and all the Texas Safeway stores closed up around 1984. Funny thing is they just built and opened a new Safeway Store across from 6-Flags Amusement Park right off of I-30 in Arlington, Texas. It was a huge modern store and it was open for about a year before it closed up. The Tulsa Piggley Wiggley Store on Admeral looks just like the Piggley Wiggley Store we had in Fort Worth, Texas on HempHill road just south of Magnolia in 1980. I lived near that area in 1980. The store in Fort Worth is long since gone. The Tulsa store is very old and outdated that it has a charm all it's own, it feels like you went back in time, I liked it, but the neighborhood is not that safe I would not shop there at night, however, the store has pretty good prices, Parts of Admeral Road in Tulsa look alot like parts of HempHill Road in Fort Worth, same kind of buildings. Felt like a trip in a "Way-Back Machine".[:)]
FWIW, the name is Reasor's. Secondly, we have a few piggly wigglys around the area as well. The only one I can think of off hand is off of highway 20 between hwy 75 and 169. It's a small town and the name escapes me. That safeway you mention at 11th and Denver was a Homeland and since has gone out of business. I will admit Texas seems to have some "nicer, more upscale" grocery stores. But then again, there are alot of "nicer, more upscale" areas in North Dallas area then lil ol Tulsa.
Safeway had been in Tulsa for decades with many stores. Safeway closed all its stores in Texas, Oklahoma, and this region at the same time in the early 1980s. Most Oklahoma stores converted to the Homeland name, which I believe is an employee-owned company started by the former Safeway employees to keep the stores alive and keep their jobs. Since then, many of the Homelands have closed, probably because they are not very price competitive (IMO).
Safeway is still alive today (barely), mostly on the west coast where the company is headquartered.
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Originally posted by sauerkraut
Go back a few years and does anyone remember the Tulsa "Safeway" stores? They had one at Denver & 11th many decades ago. I don't know if that chain just quit marketing in Oklahoma or if they went out of business or got bought out. I lived in Texas at the time and all the Texas Safeway stores closed up around 1984. Funny thing is they just built and opened a new Safeway Store across from 6-Flags Amusement Park right off of I-30 in Arlington, Texas. It was a huge modern store and it was open for about a year before it closed up. The Tulsa Piggley Wiggley Store on Admeral looks just like the Piggley Wiggley Store we had in Fort Worth, Texas on HempHill road just south of Magnolia in 1980. I lived near that area in 1980. The store in Fort Worth is long since gone. The Tulsa store is very old and outdated that it has a charm all it's own, it feels like you went back in time, I liked it, but the neighborhood is not that safe I would not shop there at night, however, the store has pretty good prices, Parts of Admeral Road in Tulsa look alot like parts of HempHill Road in Fort Worth, same kind of buildings. Felt like a trip in a "Way-Back Machine".[:)]
FWIW, the name is Reasor's. Secondly, we have a few piggly wigglys around the area as well. The only one I can think of off hand is off of highway 20 between hwy 75 and 169. It's a small town and the name escapes me. That safeway you mention at 11th and Denver was a Homeland and since has gone out of business. I will admit Texas seems to have some "nicer, more upscale" grocery stores. But then again, there are alot of "nicer, more upscale" areas in North Dallas area then lil ol Tulsa.
That "HomeLand" Store at Denver & 11th was a SafeWay store before it became Homeland. I shopped there in 1979. The design of the building screams "SafeWay". SafeWay stores were all shaped like a big curve.
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Originally posted by sauerkraut
Go back a few years and does anyone remember the Tulsa "Safeway" stores? They had one at Denver & 11th many decades ago. I don't know if that chain just quit marketing in Oklahoma or if they went out of business or got bought out. I lived in Texas at the time and all the Texas Safeway stores closed up around 1984. Funny thing is they just built and opened a new Safeway Store across from 6-Flags Amusement Park right off of I-30 in Arlington, Texas. It was a huge modern store and it was open for about a year before it closed up. The Tulsa Piggley Wiggley Store on Admeral looks just like the Piggley Wiggley Store we had in Fort Worth, Texas on HempHill road just south of Magnolia in 1980. I lived near that area in 1980. The store in Fort Worth is long since gone. The Tulsa store is very old and outdated that it has a charm all it's own, it feels like you went back in time, I liked it, but the neighborhood is not that safe I would not shop there at night, however, the store has pretty good prices, Parts of Admeral Road in Tulsa look alot like parts of HempHill Road in Fort Worth, same kind of buildings. Felt like a trip in a "Way-Back Machine".[:)]
FWIW, the name is Reasor's. Secondly, we have a few piggly wigglys around the area as well. The only one I can think of off hand is off of highway 20 between hwy 75 and 169. It's a small town and the name escapes me. That safeway you mention at 11th and Denver was a Homeland and since has gone out of business. I will admit Texas seems to have some "nicer, more upscale" grocery stores. But then again, there are alot of "nicer, more upscale" areas in North Dallas area then lil ol Tulsa.
That "HomeLand" Store at Denver & 11th was a SafeWay store before it became Homeland. I shopped there in 1979. The design of the building screams "SafeWay". SafeWay stores were all shaped like a big curve.
I apologize. After reading my post, it may have come off rude or standoffish, that was not my intent. And you are correct, it was a safeway, I was just answering your question that after it was a safeway, it was then a homeland, and to my knowledge still sits vacant to this day. Food Pyramid is a joke, IMO. They are expensive and their produce section (51st and Harvard) was subpar. I remember going into that store as a kid when it was Skags Alpha Beta, I think was the name, and it still looks the some 20 yrs later and several name changes. I think after Skags, it was Jewel Osco, and then Albertsons, and most recently Food Pyramid. I don't think I have missed any names in between there.
We do have Aldi here like mentioned before, and IMO it is somewhat of a niche store. It doesn't fit my tastes, but does my parents. I hate the thought of having to deposit a quarter (even if you get it back) to use a shopping cart, and bags are 10 cents each, you can bring your own of course, but what a hassle.
At the time, I don't believe they accepted debit/credit cards either. That was 2-3yrs ago, so things may have changed, but it is not my kind of store.
I am sorry, but I would NOT shop at some place called "Piggly Wiggly". How gauche. lol If one of those went into my part of town, I would move. Homeless shelter,,, fine. Piggly Wiggly,,,heck no. Reminds me of the "Shoe Carnival". Went into one of those when they first came into town. Dont know what possessed me in the first place with that name. But anyway, walked in the door and there was some guy on a podium with a mike and in a clown suit who yelled "Welcome to the Shoe Carnival!" I literally stood there shocked for a moment. then thought "Oh hell no." Then turned a round and walked right back out.
I grew up with the two choices for grocery shopping in town being Piggly Wiggly and Jitney Jungle. Here is some info on Piggly Wiggly -
Piggly Wiggly was founded in 1916, in Memphis, Tennessee, by the American entrepreneur Clarence Saunders. It was the first true self-service grocery store, a concept patented by Saunders in 1917. Because customers could choose their products directly, packaging and brand recognition became very important. Other grocers soon adopted the self-service format.
Piggly Wiggly was the first to
provide checkout stands.
price mark every item in the store.
feature a full line of nationally advertised brands.
use refrigerated cases to keep produce fresher longer.
put employees in uniforms for cleaner, more sanitary food handling.
design and use patented fixtures and equipment throughout the store.
give shoppers more for their food dollar through high volume/low profit margin retailing.
franchise independent grocers to operate under the self-service method of food merchandising.
They serve a segment of the market just as all the others do. They are not out to impress with razzle dazzle.
I would much rather have an HEB than a Hyvee, I have shopped both and prefer HEB, parent company of Central Market.
The "Piggley Wiggley" stores were mostly in southern states. I only know of one store in Tulsa and that is on Admerial. I have no problem with the name. I liked the Tulsa store on Admerial it felt like a walk back in time, it reminds me a bit of the old A&P store on the corner of Ryan & 9 mile road in Warren, Michigan where my mother shopped when I was a tot back in the early 1960's. The post about Skags was intresting I remember a Skags on Collins road in Arlington, Texas in the early 1980's- they had a name change to Skags Albertsons and they were in business at that location as long as I lived in in Texas. I found it interesting to read the posts here about the histories of the stores. I did not know Piggley Wiggley was that old of a store.[}:)]
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I grew up with the two choices for grocery shopping in town being Piggly Wiggly and Jitney Jungle. Here is some info on Piggly Wiggly -
Piggly Wiggly was founded in 1916, in Memphis, Tennessee, by the American entrepreneur Clarence Saunders. It was the first true self-service grocery store, a concept patented by Saunders in 1917. Because customers could choose their products directly, packaging and brand recognition became very important. Other grocers soon adopted the self-service format.
Piggly Wiggly was the first to
provide checkout stands.
price mark every item in the store.
feature a full line of nationally advertised brands.
use refrigerated cases to keep produce fresher longer.
put employees in uniforms for cleaner, more sanitary food handling.
design and use patented fixtures and equipment throughout the store.
give shoppers more for their food dollar through high volume/low profit margin retailing.
franchise independent grocers to operate under the self-service method of food merchandising.
They serve a segment of the market just as all the others do. They are not out to impress with razzle dazzle.
I would much rather have an HEB than a Hyvee, I have shopped both and prefer HEB, parent company of Central Market.
That is interesting about Piggly Wiggly- and must of been a very modern thing back in 1916. Many stores from the flip of the last century and back into the 19th century had a clerk and all the goods behind a counter and you told the clerk want you wanted he grabed the items and he rang you up and sent you on your way, and he took the next customer. Sounds like Piggly Wiggly was one of the first stores to offer self-service and even it's own freezer section. That must of been very modern for it's time. The pictures I seen of old stores show them as small with everything behind the counter (almost as if the clerk was afraid of the goods being shop-lifted- nothing was self-serv). Piggly Wiggly should get alot of credit if they busted that old mold.[8D]
IGA still around or still in businiess? Used to be one at 91st or 101st and Yale ?? Or Harvard...
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IGA still around or still in businiess? Used to be one at 91st or 101st and Yale ?? Or Harvard...
101st and Sheridan. It's a gym now.
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IGA still around or still in businiess? Used to be one at 91st or 101st and Yale ?? Or Harvard...
They are still around but are getting harder & harder to find. [xx(]
Oklahoma will never get another big grocery chain until they change the liquour laws. That's where grocery chains make a lot of profit. Albertson's tried many times to get Kroger to buy its oklahoma stores, and they would not for this very reason. So thats why they were dumped on to AWG, which bid them out to its fellow members(Reasor's, Food Pryamid-Ramey's,and Homeland). This is also the Reason we will never see chains like costco and Trader Joes.
I thought at one time there was a movement or a petition or something that was trying to change this law, but I know it had a lot of opposition from liquor store owners. Are they that powerful? I never heard what happened to the effort, or if it is still ongoing.
As per the title of this thread "Double Coupons"- A chain of stores in Michigan called "Farmer Jack" (Metro-Detroit) almost always offerd triple coupons and they also took coupons from other stores and honored them. I don't know if they still do that. My mother shopped there alot and talked about the triple coupons offers. She died in 1997 and I'm not in Michigan any more. Michigan seemed to have alot of store "Coupon Wars"..[B)]
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Oklahoma will never get another big grocery chain until they change the liquour laws. That's where grocery chains make a lot of profit. Albertson's tried many times to get Kroger to buy its oklahoma stores, and they would not for this very reason. So thats why they were dumped on to AWG, which bid them out to its fellow members(Reasor's, Food Pryamid-Ramey's,and Homeland). This is also the Reason we will never see chains like costco and Trader Joes.
I talked to someone who is a supplier for both stores and has visited almost every major location for both. He named several states where those chains did not sell liquor in the stores because they had laws similar to ours. The just put a side store and sold the alcohol out of the adjoining storefront.
That sounds like a great workaround. I wonder if there is any other reason some of the major chains do not want to bring stores here. I don't think it is because of market size, because the ones I am familiar with are in Denton, TX, and the population there is certainly a lot less than here. There are two or more Krogers, plus Albertsons, and several smaller ones that I can't remember the name. There is also a WalMart Supercenter, a Target Supercenter, but none of the WalMart markets.
It sure would be nice to have some healthy competition.
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Oklahoma will never get another big grocery chain until they change the liquour laws. That's where grocery chains make a lot of profit. Albertson's tried many times to get Kroger to buy its oklahoma stores, and they would not for this very reason. So thats why they were dumped on to AWG, which bid them out to its fellow members(Reasor's, Food Pryamid-Ramey's,and Homeland). This is also the Reason we will never see chains like costco and Trader Joes.
I talked to someone who is a supplier for both stores and has visited almost every major location for both. He named several states where those chains did not sell liquor in the stores because they had laws similar to ours. The just put a side store and sold the alcohol out of the adjoining storefront.
I remember the McCartneys at 28th & Memorial had a liquor store attached next door, but I don't think they were owned by the same party. Several liquor stores in town operate a beverage & snack shop right next door to sell mixers, snacks, cigars & tobacco, etc. As long as they have separate outside entrances and customers are not allowed to walk between the two from inside, then it complies with regs. Crazy, I know.
Along these lines, does anyone know why Warehouse Market does not sell 3.2 beer in Okmulgee? I see their newspaper ads all the time and beneath the beer specials, it always says "All beer excluded in Okmulgee." Does the city or county there prohibit beer in grocery stores? Just curious.
I don't think state liquor laws in Oklahoma allow grocery chains to operate separate liquor stores. I think it has to be a separate owner.
Here is the link for that movement to get it into grocery stores, looks kinda dead:
http://www.oklahomansformodernlaws.com/OklahomansForModernLaws.php (//%22http://www.oklahomansformodernlaws.com/OklahomansForModernLaws.php%22)
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I don't think state liquor laws in Oklahoma allow grocery chains to operate separate liquor stores. I think it has to be a separate owner.
Here is the link for that movement to get it into grocery stores, looks kinda dead:
http://www.oklahomansformodernlaws.com/OklahomansForModernLaws.php (//%22http://www.oklahomansformodernlaws.com/OklahomansForModernLaws.php%22)
That's apparently true.
The liquor license has to belong to a person.
That person must live in Oklahoma for 10 consecutive years unless moved away for school and the school thing is a maybe.
If you move away on business you must have proof of intention to return such as maintaining a residence or absentee voting (thanks to a loophole).
You are only allowed to own one store. There are ways around it but it gets very foggy in the ways of ABLE.
If I go on much farther I'll sound like a conspiracist.
Maybe the way to effect change the liquor laws in Oklahoma is to abandon the current "F___ the Christians and their laws" approach and maybe tackle the laws one at a time. Change the wine sale law today, go after liquor store ownership rule tomorrow.
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That sounds like a great workaround. I wonder if there is any other reason some of the major chains do not want to bring stores here. I don't think it is because of market size, because the ones I am familiar with are in Denton, TX, and the population there is certainly a lot less than here. There are two or more Krogers, plus Albertsons, and several smaller ones that I can't remember the name. There is also a WalMart Supercenter, a Target Supercenter, but none of the WalMart markets.
It sure would be nice to have some healthy competition.
That could be a good point, there's enough stores now that no new chain wants to move in. However, I don't understand why Tulsa's current stores don't have much to offer the shoppers aside from Reasors (and they even lack in major selections). Many midwestern states have stores like "Food 4 less", "No Frills", Krogers, Giant Eagel and HyVee as the main stores plus smaller stores like "Save-A-Lot" and "Aldi" and of course the foods in Wal-Mart SuperCenters.[xx(]