First off I think Marshall's Beer is great, especially Sundown Wheat. In fact when it first started delivering to McNellies, I started only drinking that(partly because it was good and partly to support my local brewing company). So my coworker and I decided to go there for a few beers every Friday after work. The problem started off with Sundown Wheat never being available there, but I would get one of the other two beers. In the last month and a half it has progressed from Sundown not being available to none of the beers being available.
Is this just a problem with McNellies or something? This is a little disconcerting since I figure McNellies was kind of the mainstay of Marshall's beer, considering the title of one of those beers.
Just when you thought the news couldn't get any worse. I blame it on deregulation, greed, and the global financial meltdown.
Oh, and the mayor, definitely the mayor.
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Originally posted by brianh
First off I think Marshall's Beer is great, especially Sundown Wheat. In fact when it first started delivering to McNellies, I started only drinking that(partly because it was good and partly to support my local brewing company). So my coworker and I decided to go there for a few beers every Friday after work. The problem started off with Sundown Wheat never being available there, but I would get one of the other two beers. In the last month and a half it has progressed from Sundown not being available to none of the beers being available.
Is this just a problem with McNellies or something? This is a little disconcerting since I figure McNellies was kind of the mainstay of Marshall's beer, considering the title of one of those beers.
If you have to have Marshall's beer, just go to Oscar's at 18th and Boston. You should find plenty because they are never busy. The bartender is Stephanie and she is awesome.
If you would prefer to stay at McNellie's because of the atmosphere just ask to see Eliot and share your concerns regarding Marshall's. He's a good guy and if there is a reason for it at least you will know.
Mr. Burns
And speaking of McNellie's....last time I was there, they didn't have Blue Moon on tap. Brought me a bottle. Boo. [xx(]
I'll blame the ABLE commission.
Somehow, it is probably really their fault anyway.
When they don't have Marshalls just reluctantly settle for something else and then make horrble faces as you try to choke the alternate swill down. That will get the point across.
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Originally posted by brianh
First off I think Marshall's Beer is great, especially Sundown Wheat. In fact when it first started delivering to McNellies, I started only drinking that(partly because it was good and partly to support my local brewing company).
You might consider drinking a little water every now and then. It's good for the kidneys. Just a thought.
(Sorry, couldn't resist a little sophomoric humor)
I love it too. Eric keeps tabs on what we say on this forum, so chances are he's aware of the problem. I'm glad to see it flying out of the taps, that's a great sign.
By brewery standards, it's still a small operation and quality comes first. There's also a maddening array of federal and state regs which go along with operating a brewery of any size. That along with slow, measured growth might make product scarce at times right now.
Bottles are very close to reality. I was disappointed the Colony only had the IPA on tap. I'm just not an IPA guy at all. FWIW, his
Oktoberfest Novemberfest beer and new lager are outstanding.
Please be patient and keep supporting Marshall's. I agree the wheat beer is my fave so I'm disappointed when I can't get my fix.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
I'll blame the ABLE commission.
Somehow, it is probably really their fault anyway.
they ARE the reason we don't have Stone Brewery offerings here.
I usurp the entire system and just brew my own.
We drank something on the order of 9 gallons of beer on Friday night, before downing a good number of other alcohol and heading to the Colony. That included drinking ALL of my Oktoberfest Ale (hard to lager in Oklahoma with wild swings). Man do I have dirt on Conan now.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
I usurp the entire system and just brew my own.
We drank something on the order of 9 gallons of beer on Friday night, before downing a good number of other alcohol and heading to the Colony. That included drinking ALL of my Oktoberfest Ale (hard to lager in Oklahoma with wild swings). Man do I have dirt on Conan now.
Home brewing is so simple, even a caveman could do it!
You don't know why there was some Vaseline next to the bed and why my ear felt slimey Saturday morning do you? Great fun, remind me to pass on the vodka and energy drink shots the next time though.
Interesting, I had never heard of the ABLE commission before. I read up on them and it was all depressing. I don't remember getting to vote on that commission for some reason.
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Originally posted by brianh
Interesting, I had never heard of the ABLE commission before. I read up on them and it was all depressing. I don't remember getting to vote on that commission for some reason.
you don't because they were yes men put in to power by the liquor distributing lobby.
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Originally posted by inteller
you don't because they were yes men put in to power by the liquor distributing lobby.
Some might say they're 'no' men put into power by the bible thumpers.
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Originally posted by nathanm
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Originally posted by inteller
you don't because they were yes men put in to power by the liquor distributing lobby.
Some might say they're 'no' men put into power by the bible thumpers.
Oh please, might as well cause them the NERF commission, for as tough as they are on liquor law enforcement.
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Originally posted by nathanm
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Originally posted by inteller
you don't because they were yes men put in to power by the liquor distributing lobby.
Some might say they're 'no' men put into power by the bible thumpers.
yeah the same bible thumpers that distribute weak warm beer. they only say no when it enriches their handlers.
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Just when you thought the news couldn't get any worse. I blame it on deregulation, greed, and the global financial meltdown.
Oh, and the mayor, definitely the mayor.
Lol....
Thank you all for your concerns, I was somewhat unaware of this problem and I really appreciate it being posted and brought to my attention. While we are selling a large amount of beer, I assure you I have not "run out of beer" and this is not a problem on our end. I knew the Sundown Wheat was offline at McNellie's because they were putting a number of Oktoberfest beers on. While they do have a lot of taps, some have to come off to make way for seasonals, especially Oktoberfest season.
I will make sure this problem gets solved. Thank you for your support and please continue drinking Marshall Brewing Company beers and please continue supporting McNellie's and all other Tulsa businesses. Oscar's does have our beers on draft, as one of the other forum members posted, and so does the Colony and many other places as well. Please continue to let me know about problems you encounter dealing with our beers. Since we are new and a very small operation it is nice to hear of these things so we can attempt to fix them before they becomes detrimental to the business.
Thanks-
Eric
To the best of my knowledge, we have never been completely out of Marshall beer. I know that we took the Sundown Wheat off draught to make room for Oktoberfest beers and subsequently replaced it with Marshall Pilsner, but we've never been completely out. If you were told we didn't have any of the Marshall beers it was either a very rare day or the bartender was just mistaken. I had some Marshall - McNellie's Pub Ale this evening, and know that it has been available all the time.
If you're ever in McNellie's and told you can't get a Marshall beer ask for a manager. Just last Friday I was asked why we were out of Marshall IPA by a customer, and I simply went in the walk-in and plugged in the keg. The employees, much to my chagrin, don't always check these things. We are committed to supporting Marshall brewery, not just because they're local, but because they make really good beer. If you ever have a future problem getting the beer, or with anything else at McNellie's, please e-mail me: elliot@mcnellies.com
Sorry for any inconvenience, the beer should always be there unless it's a rotating tap.
Cheers-
Ellio
Make that Elliot, I don't know who Ellio is
One more thing... TulsaMINI - so long as Blue Moon is a 3.2 product and not full strength, it will only have limited engagements on draught. Please don't boo us, we're simply trying to provide the best selection we can - Hoegaarden is the beer Blue Moon tries to imitate, send me your e-mail address and I'll buy you a pint, it's an exquisite beer.
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Originally posted by mcnellie
One more thing... TulsaMINI - so long as Blue Moon is a 3.2 product and not full strength, it will only have limited engagements on draught. Please don't boo us, we're simply trying to provide the best selection we can - Hoegaarden is the beer Blue Moon tries to imitate, send me your e-mail address and I'll buy you a pint, it's an exquisite beer.
Blue Moon is made by Coors anyway. It's overrated IMO- there are much better beers out there.
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Originally posted by azbadpuppy
Blue Moon is made by Coors anyway. It's overrated IMO- there are much better beers out there.
Hey, Killian's is pretty darn good on tap, even though it's absolute trash out of a bottle. (like most beer, IMO) It may not be the best beer around, but it tastes pretty good for something that's widely available. (like Blue Moon)
It's not that Coors
can't make a reasonably tasty brew, it's just that they usually
don't.
Although one should always support local breweries!
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Originally posted by mcnellie
One more thing... TulsaMINI - so long as Blue Moon is a 3.2 product and not full strength, it will only have limited engagements on draught. Please don't boo us, we're simply trying to provide the best selection we can - Hoegaarden is the beer Blue Moon tries to imitate, send me your e-mail address and I'll buy you a pint, it's an exquisite beer.
Awww, Elliot, don't sweat it. That wasn't a mean boo, it was just a tiny disappointed boo. (http://members.cox.net/tulsamini/hysteric.gif)
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Originally posted by azbadpuppy
Blue Moon is made by Coors anyway. It's overrated IMO- there are much better beers out there.
I'm well aware of who makes it. Don't care. I like what I like. Perhaps my palette isn't quite as sophisticated as yours. (http://members.cox.net/tulsamini/blink.gif)
Awesome, that is good news, Elliot. I'll be hitting McNellies on Saturday and was a little disappointed to hear you guys may be out of Marshall's. Too bad about the Sundown Wheat however, I'd like to try that one sometime.
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Originally posted by MarshallBrewing
Thank you all for your concerns, I was somewhat unaware of this problem and I really appreciate it being posted and brought to my attention. While we are selling a large amount of beer, I assure you I have not "run out of beer" and this is not a problem on our end. I knew the Sundown Wheat was offline at McNellie's because they were putting a number of Oktoberfest beers on. While they do have a lot of taps, some have to come off to make way for seasonals, especially Oktoberfest season.
I will make sure this problem gets solved. Thank you for your support and please continue drinking Marshall Brewing Company beers and please continue supporting McNellie's and all other Tulsa businesses. Oscar's does have our beers on draft, as one of the other forum members posted, and so does the Colony and many other places as well. Please continue to let me know about problems you encounter dealing with our beers. Since we are new and a very small operation it is nice to hear of these things so we can attempt to fix them before they becomes detrimental to the business.
Thanks-
Eric
Will you ever make a stout like Stone Brewery Double Bastard or Oaked Bastard? You have my business if you do.
It makes me feel good when business I like have management/owners that are responsive. Thanks for providing great local businesses guys. I'm happy to kick my money your way when I can.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
It makes me feel good when business I like have management/owners that are responsive. Thanks for providing great local businesses guys. I'm happy to kick my money your way when I can.
I concur, thanks to everyone for responding; I am glad everything is going smoothly then. Looking forward to Friday drinks again.
Name anywhere else you can post a concern about a product and both the store owner and the manufacturer come on the publicly respond to you.
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Originally posted by tulsacyclist
Awesome, that is good news, Elliot. I'll be hitting McNellies on Saturday and was a little disappointed to hear you guys may be out of Marshall's. Too bad about the Sundown Wheat however, I'd like to try that one sometime.
I'm guessing you got tickets to the game then?
[:D]
I am trying to think of a complaint so that the owner of McNellie's will offer to buy me a pint.
Your Pub's name is too hard to say when I have been drinking...your crowd is too good-looking and I feel self-conscious...your food fills me up...you sell too many types of beer...
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Originally posted by mcnellie
To the best of my knowledge, we have never been completely out of Marshall beer. I know that we took the Sundown Wheat off draught to make room for Oktoberfest beers and subsequently replaced it with Marshall Pilsner, but we've never been completely out. If you were told we didn't have any of the Marshall beers it was either a very rare day or the bartender was just mistaken. I had some Marshall - McNellie's Pub Ale this evening, and know that it has been available all the time.
If you're ever in McNellie's and told you can't get a Marshall beer ask for a manager. Just last Friday I was asked why we were out of Marshall IPA by a customer, and I simply went in the walk-in and plugged in the keg. The employees, much to my chagrin, don't always check these things. We are committed to supporting Marshall brewery, not just because they're local, but because they make really good beer. If you ever have a future problem getting the beer, or with anything else at McNellie's, please e-mail me: elliot@mcnellies.com
Sorry for any inconvenience, the beer should always be there unless it's a rotating tap.
Cheers-
Ellio
Elliot, small favor- next year, please don't pull Sundown Wheat off in favor of seasonals. It's an outstanding beer. [:P]
Great, glad we got that taken care of! I want to thank you all again for expressing your concerns, so Elliot and I were aware. I alerted Elliot to the issue after I read about it last night and he was on it immediately! I believe this is a testament to how dedicated he is to his customer base and wanting to make sure everything is in order. He has been a great supporter of ours since the beginning and we really appreciate his friendship. Please continue drinking Marshall Beers at his Pub.
Thanks- Eric
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
I am trying to think of a complaint so that the owner of McNellie's will offer to buy me a pint.
Your Pub's name is too hard to say when I have been drinking...your crowd is too good-looking and I feel self-conscious...your food fills me up...you sell too many types of beer...
I think he should offer to host the next TulsaNow forum lunch.. for free :)
Or at least free sweet potato fries. Joe Momma's has Simpson's pinball, McNellie's is gonna have to step it up a notch.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Name anywhere else you can post a concern about a product and both the store owner and the manufacturer come on the publicly respond to you.
Somehow, I don't think Peter Coors, Norman Brinker, or Augie Busch would chime in on a forum.
It's like we were spoken to by Beer God and Vice Beer God. [}:)]
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Originally posted by Conan71
Somehow, I don't think Peter Coors, Norman Brinker, or Augie Busch would chime in on a forum.
It's like we were spoken to by Beer God and Vice Beer God. [}:)]
...and it was good."
I will play Vice Beer God to Elliot Nelson any day!!!
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Originally posted by Hoss
I'm guessing you got tickets to the game then?
[:D]
Sure did!
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Originally posted by MarshallBrewing
I will play Vice Beer God to Elliot Nelson any day!!!
You mean Ellio, right? He's the guy who won dancing with the stars a couple of years ago, eh?
[}:)]
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Originally posted by mcnellie
One more thing... TulsaMINI - so long as Blue Moon is a 3.2 product and not full strength, it will only have limited engagements on draught. Please don't boo us, we're simply trying to provide the best selection we can - Hoegaarden is the beer Blue Moon tries to imitate, send me your e-mail address and I'll buy you a pint, it's an exquisite beer.
BOO!! Can I have one too?
My brother, age 23, is looking for a public office to run for. His sign will be a beer stein with cold, icy beer dripping from it. His platform?
For all Oklahoma!Cold.High.Point.Beer.
Broaden Your Horizons, Oklahoma! So much good beer, in so many other states. It's time we bring these beers to Oklahoma, Oklahomans!
Not really serious, but it would be fun.
***Recognizing there are many great Oklahoma beers as well.
[:P]
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Originally posted by Kashmir
My brother, age 23, is looking for a public office to run for. His sign will be a beer stein with cold, icy beer dripping from it. His platform?
For all Oklahoma!Cold.High.Point.Beer.
Broaden Your Horizons, Oklahoma! So much good beer, in so many other states. It's time we bring these beers to Oklahoma, Oklahomans!
Not really serious, but it would be fun.
***Recognizing there are many great Oklahoma beers as well.
[:P]
Anti Able Commission campaign? He may get more votes that way.
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Originally posted by Kashmir
a beer stein with cold, icy beer dripping from it. His platform?
Not quite icy cold please. Most of the beers (ales) I like are better cool but not icy cold.
The rest is fine by me.
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Originally posted by Red Arrow
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Originally posted by Kashmir
a beer stein with cold, icy beer dripping from it. His platform?
Not quite icy cold please. Most of the beers (ales) I like are better cool but not icy cold.
The rest is fine by me.
I think he was just proving the point that we all deserve a strong beer as cold as we please, just because we can. I think the ice was for maximum graphic effect.
*Somehow, I don't think this kind of mission is what my parents had in mind when he took poly-sci in college for, but I can't see dad knockin' it![:)]
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Originally posted by Kashmir
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Originally posted by Red Arrow
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Originally posted by Kashmir
a beer stein with cold, icy beer dripping from it. His platform?
Not quite icy cold please. Most of the beers (ales) I like are better cool but not icy cold.
The rest is fine by me.
I think he was just proving the point that we all deserve a strong beer as cold as we please, just because we can. I think the ice was for maximum graphic effect.
*Somehow, I don't think this kind of mission is what my parents had in mind when he took poly-sci in college for, but I can't see dad knockin' it![:)]
He would probably get the Millers/Coors/Bud Light crowd.
does the Sundown Wheat resemble hocker-schorr weiss dark or dunkel weiss?
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Originally posted by inteller
does the Sundown Wheat resemble hocker-schorr weiss dark or dunkel weiss?
not trying to be snarky but, it is pschorr
anywho- the msw body is not as brown and hence, it is not as malty/caramely, the hp is creamier... the banana esters and citrus are similar... the msw is overall lighter and more crisp... and an excellent wheat beer...
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Originally posted by brunoflipper
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Originally posted by inteller
does the Sundown Wheat resemble hocker-schorr weiss dark or dunkel weiss?
not trying to be snarky but, it is pschorr
Yes it is actually Hacker-Pschorr thank you spelling policia.
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by brunoflipper
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Originally posted by inteller
does the Sundown Wheat resemble hocker-schorr weiss dark or dunkel weiss?
not trying to be snarky but, it is pschorr
Yes it is actually Hacker-Pschorr thank you spelling policia.
Why don't you just go and try the MSW, instead of asking? Everyone's beer snob pallate is different.
I need (not want, need) and MSW now. Is it beer o'clock yet?
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Originally posted by carltonplace
I need (not want, need) and MSW now. Is it beer o'clock yet?
It is somewhere.
Still out of Sundown, I thought Oktoberfest was only like a week long event. Did have pub ale though. I also tried out Oscars like one of the other posters stated, and they did have it. Though, I think there is an amount that I start to feel uncomfortable paying for a beer in Oklahoma; I think $6 would be that for me, even for the great Sundown.
then I guess you'd freak out at $22 for an imperial or russian stout.
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Originally posted by TulsaMINI
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Originally posted by mcnellie
One more thing... TulsaMINI - so long as Blue Moon is a 3.2 product and not full strength, it will only have limited engagements on draught. Please don't boo us, we're simply trying to provide the best selection we can - Hoegaarden is the beer Blue Moon tries to imitate, send me your e-mail address and I'll buy you a pint, it's an exquisite beer.
Awww, Elliot, don't sweat it. That wasn't a mean boo, it was just a tiny disappointed boo. (http://members.cox.net/tulsamini/hysteric.gif)
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Originally posted by azbadpuppy
Blue Moon is made by Coors anyway. It's overrated IMO- there are much better beers out there.
I'm well aware of who makes it. Don't care. I like what I like. Perhaps my palette isn't quite as sophisticated as yours. (http://members.cox.net/tulsamini/blink.gif)
Just pointing out that there are more interesting true micro brews to put on tap that taste better- my opinion. I like what I like too- it wasn't meant to be a slam.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Name anywhere else you can post a concern about a product and both the store owner and the manufacturer come on the publicly respond to you.
Yeah, that is pretty cool. I've never been to McNellies (sp?), but I'll make it a point to stop in and give them some of my business when I'm in Tulsa just because of their response on this forum.
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Originally posted by brianh
Still out of Sundown, I thought Oktoberfest was only like a week long event. Did have pub ale though. I also tried out Oscars like one of the other posters stated, and they did have it. Though, I think there is an amount that I start to feel uncomfortable paying for a beer in Oklahoma; I think $6 would be that for me, even for the great Sundown.
FYI, I had Sundown wheat on tap at the Sound Pony one Saturday afternoon for $3 a pint. Don't know if that's a happy hour special or not. They had just opened for the day and I was the only one in there.
I believe Kilkenny's also has it on tap, might be a little less there. T Oscar's pricing on everything is a bit absurd.
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Originally posted by Conan71
FYI, I had Sundown wheat on tap at the Sound Pony one Saturday afternoon for $3 a pint. Don't know if that's a happy hour special or not. They had just opened for the day and I was the only one in there.
I believe Kilkenny's also has it on tap, might be a little less there. T Oscar's pricing on everything is a bit absurd.
I have had it at Soundpony before on weekend night. When does that place open for the day/night on the weekdays?
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Originally posted by brianh
Still out of Sundown, I thought Oktoberfest was only like a week long event. Did have pub ale though. I also tried out Oscars like one of the other posters stated, and they did have it. Though, I think there is an amount that I start to feel uncomfortable paying for a beer in Oklahoma; I think $6 would be that for me, even for the great Sundown.
My understanding, and I could be wrong, is Sundown has been taken off tap at McNellie's to make way for the Oktoberfest beers. And Oktoberfest beers are usually available the whole month, not just a week. Hopefully, Sundown Wheat will be back on tap in a week or two. At least, that would make the wife happy (although she surprisingly liked the Pilsner).
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Originally posted by brianh
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Originally posted by Conan71
FYI, I had Sundown wheat on tap at the Sound Pony one Saturday afternoon for $3 a pint. Don't know if that's a happy hour special or not. They had just opened for the day and I was the only one in there.
I believe Kilkenny's also has it on tap, might be a little less there. T Oscar's pricing on everything is a bit absurd.
I have had it at Soundpony before on weekend night. When does that place open for the day/night on the weekdays?
2pm seems to be common with most bars around town. Couldn't tell you for certain.
Soundpony kind of opens when they feel like it, I think. The sign says something like 3ish or 4ish. They have always been open when I've been there just before 5.
Tell 'em Conan sent you. Won't get you a free beer or anything, but it will get you a blank stare.
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Originally posted by mcnellie
One more thing... TulsaMINI - so long as Blue Moon is a 3.2 product and not full strength, it will only have limited engagements on draught. Please don't boo us, we're simply trying to provide the best selection we can - Hoegaarden is the beer Blue Moon tries to imitate, send me your e-mail address and I'll buy you a pint, it's an exquisite beer.
Met a friend earlier this week for a drink at the 'Nel and remembered the Hoegaarden recommendation. They were out. (http://members.cox.net/tulsamini/smilies/doh.gif)
So I had a Guinness. (http://members.cox.net/tulsamini/smilies/drink.gif)
Check out marshallbrewing.mobi and visit the Beer Locator. They offer updated info on where to find the beer on draft in Tulsa and Oklahoma City. The .mobi sites are designed for mobile phones and load particularly fast.
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Originally posted by DrinkLocalBrews
Check out marshallbrewing.mobi and visit the Beer Locator. They offer updated info on where to find the beer on draft in Tulsa and Oklahoma City. The .mobi sites are designed for mobile phones and load particularly fast.
Wow. Any word on when the real website will be up and running?
Had an Old Pavilion Pilsner at McNellie's pub yesterday, I think I have a new favorite. To me it tastes like a light beer with a bit of, what I would consider a pleasant, refreshing bite. Such a bite that it stays with you for at least fifteen minutes after you leave the pub. They also had Sundown in stock again I was happy to find out. The bartender said they had Old Pavilion for like a month and a half now, but I am pretty sure I didn't see it there a week and a half ago.
That site mentioned a couple posts ago is quite nice, I hope the Old Pavilion Pilsner can get listed there soon so I can see the interesting tap artwork like the others.
Speaking of McNellie's beers, I was shocked to find Budweiser's "American Ale" on tap there. Usually he shuns the crappy big-name beers (at least when it comes to tap space), so I figured I'd give it a shot.
The reason I was curious was because the beer was obviously created as a knee-jerk attempt to keep appealing to people who buy their beer based on patriotism rather than taste, since Bud was just bought out by Belgians. (Bud was the last of the humongous breweries to be American-owned.)
It tasted like nothing. Absolutely nothing. No initial rush of flavor, no aftertaste, nothing. It was like water with red food coloring in it. Appropriate that their empty attempt at pandering is flavorless.
Ah well, I'm one beer closer to hitting #200 and earning my name on the wall.
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Originally posted by wordherder
Ah well, I'm one beer closer to hitting #200 and earning my name on the wall.
Very impressive. The Wall of Foam is a great honor.