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Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: Ed W on October 05, 2008, 12:34:58 PM
The World announced a newsstand price increase today.  The weekday and Saturday paper will cost $0.75 - an increase of $0.25, and the Sunday paper will cost $2.00, an increase of $0.50.  Subscription prices are unchanged.

Didn't they announce that the paper would combine and truncate various sections and shorten some articles in order to save space and use less newsprint?  That was a few weeks ago, if I recall right.  Starting October 12th, the local daily will cost the same as USAToday.  I have to wonder if it's worth the same.  The bottom line is there's less to the newspaper and it costs more.

Finally, I have to wonder if similar price increases have been passed along to the advertisers, any newspaper's lifeblood, after all.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: Hoss on October 05, 2008, 12:45:43 PM
Probably more to do with the fact they went from a subscription based online services to fully open like most reputable newspapers have done.

This isn't happening just here.  It's happening all over the country.  Why read your newspaper at the kitchen table when you can get the same online?  Print media then has to compensate for the lack of revenue by adjusting prices to keep up.

As far as passing the prices along to advertisers, that probably didn't happen, given the fact that internet advertising is so inexpensive and other forms of electronic media are making the advertising dollar so competitive now.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: RecycleMichael on October 05, 2008, 01:13:46 PM
Newsprint prices have gone up dramatically. There is still tremendous demand for newsprint paper, both before and after printing.

Today's October 5th Tulsa World is worth ten cents to the non-profit where I work. Please recycle it. I really don't care where, in your curbside bin...in the bins near the schools and churchs...or at any of our dozen local M.e.t. recycling drop-off centers...

Old newpapers...too valuable to line bird cages ever again...
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: Ed W on October 05, 2008, 01:44:13 PM
Michael - my employer said a few years ago that recycling our waste paper was a money loser.  It cost more to collect and recycle than the paper was worth.  So they stopped the recycling effort.  Now, their waste is primarily white copied paper, not newsprint, but it seems to me that this stuff would be more valuable now than it was a few years back.  Also, there's a "green initiative" in place now.  It seems kind of ironic since we burn fossil fuel by the ton every day.  

So, if you're a silver-tongued devil and feel up to a challenge, I can put you in touch with our corporate communications guy.  Give him your best pitch.

Oh, and one other thing before I forget - I once bought a copy of The Oklahoman to put under the cat's litter box.  The ASPCA made me remove it, saying that it represented cruel and unusual punishment.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: RecycleMichael on October 05, 2008, 02:33:40 PM
I would love to.

A few years ago paper was worth little. We recycled it because it could be. We also recycled because it may not make money, but it made jobs. There are paper recyling jobs acreoss the region, including 1,200 employees in Muskogee.

Recycling doesn't just save trees and landfill space, it makes jobs right here in Oklahoma. The M.e.t. employees over a hundred workers with disabilities, the place we sell to another 30 jobs in Sand Springs.

Newspaper is gold, but your white copier paper is platinum. Separated and baled, white 20 lb copier paper is worth 16 cents a pound.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: sgrizzle on October 05, 2008, 03:03:55 PM
Their subscription rates will go up to follow, just wait. If you want the paper and don't now, sign up at one of the existing "special" rates now ($6/mo weekend, $9/mo everyday)
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: inteller on October 05, 2008, 03:44:47 PM
The Ark Dem-Gaz was $1.50 Sunday paper for as long as I can remember.....I always thought TW was cheap for a Sunday paper.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: joiei on October 05, 2008, 04:55:21 PM
The Kansas City Star had a piece in today's paper about their needing to raise prices also.  So this is not happening just in Tulsa, it is/will be  happening all over.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: waterboy on October 05, 2008, 05:03:47 PM
There is little relation between the price of single paper purchase and the cost of newsprint. Most likely the raise in single paper purchase price is do to fuel costs. It may enable carriers and box routes to catch up with their increased costs. Distribution really just breaks even. Subscription and advertising revenues keep the paper afloat.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: Townsend on October 06, 2008, 09:02:25 AM
My neighbor was informed his subscription to Tulsa World would increase to over $200 a year so he called to cancel.

He was offered the "inhouse" rate of $120 a year to continue his subscription.  A drop of $30 annually from his current cost..

Just a heads up for anyone still getting the paper.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: ARGUS on October 06, 2008, 10:23:04 AM
TULSA WORLD sucks!
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: blindnil on October 06, 2008, 11:40:32 AM
The story clearly said this WOULD NOT AFFECT SUBSCRIPTION RATES. Jeez, people can't even read.

Personally I think the newspaper in every community ... including Tulsa ... does the public a great service. Basically what the TV and radio news do every night is offer a Cliff's Notes version of what was in the paper that morning. People who are well-informed read the paper ... and that doesn't mean you have to agree with their opinion pages and editorials.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: sgrizzle on October 06, 2008, 11:48:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by blindnil

The story clearly said this WOULD NOT AFFECT SUBSCRIPTION RATES. Jeez, people can't even read.

Personally I think the newspaper in every community ... including Tulsa ... does the public a great service. Basically what the TV and radio news do every night is offer a Cliff's Notes version of what was in the paper that morning. People who are well-informed read the paper ... and that doesn't mean you have to agree with their opinion pages and editorials.



You're right, the story clearly states THIS will not affect subscription rates.

Read between the lines.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: sauerkraut on October 06, 2008, 01:05:36 PM
Ouch- That is a huge price hike. I know that newsprint went up but a 25 cent hike is overkill. There is not that much in the paper anyhow. It's cheaper just to read it on-line. However they are not alone I believe the Kansas City Star is 75 cents and $2.00 on Sunday. I guess soon the 75 cent daily paper will be the standard price all over. "USA-Today" has been at 75 cents for along time.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: Hoss on October 06, 2008, 02:02:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ARGUS

TULSA WORLD sucks!



Wow, what an informed response.

DON'T READ IT!

There, I'm finished shouting.

[:D]
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: OUGrad05 on October 08, 2008, 10:16:48 PM
Lets see...I can pay 200 dollars for a Tulsa World subscription or 100 dollars for a year of the wall street journal...


Gee...I have no clue which paper has better articles, less bias and actually has numerous stories on a daily basis worth reading.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: sgrizzle on October 09, 2008, 06:44:24 AM
quote:
Originally posted by OUGrad05

Lets see...I can pay 200 dollars for a Tulsa World subscription or 100 dollars for a year of the wall street journal...


Gee...I have no clue which paper has better articles, less bias and actually has numerous stories on a daily basis worth reading.



You can buy the Tulsa World on Special, $102 for everyday, $72 for Thurs-Sun and that is for a year.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: shadows on October 10, 2008, 03:37:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by OUGrad05

Lets see...I can pay 200 dollars for a Tulsa World subscription or 100 dollars for a year of the wall street journal...


Gee...I have no clue which paper has better articles, less bias and actually has numerous stories on a daily basis worth reading.



You can buy the Tulsa World on Special, $102 for everyday, $72 for Thurs-Sun and that is for a year.



I have paid $204. For the Tulsa World for years.  How do you get to the bargain basement?
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: inteller on October 10, 2008, 03:43:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by shadows

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by OUGrad05

Lets see...I can pay 200 dollars for a Tulsa World subscription or 100 dollars for a year of the wall street journal...


Gee...I have no clue which paper has better articles, less bias and actually has numerous stories on a daily basis worth reading.



You can buy the Tulsa World on Special, $102 for everyday, $72 for Thurs-Sun and that is for a year.



I have paid $204. For the Tulsa World for years.  How do you get to the bargain basement?




if you are a TW employee you can get it for the entire week even less than the thurs-sun rate.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: sgrizzle on October 11, 2008, 10:58:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by shadows

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by OUGrad05

Lets see...I can pay 200 dollars for a Tulsa World subscription or 100 dollars for a year of the wall street journal...


Gee...I have no clue which paper has better articles, less bias and actually has numerous stories on a daily basis worth reading.



You can buy the Tulsa World on Special, $102 for everyday, $72 for Thurs-Sun and that is for a year.



I have paid $204. For the Tulsa World for years.  How do you get to the bargain basement?




Quit, after 30 days you will likely get a call since you now qualify for the "new subscriber special."
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: shadows on October 13, 2008, 08:10:29 PM
I have thought of deleting my subscription for the thirty days but also not re-subscribing as much of the news is available through the wireless channels.  
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: Porky on October 13, 2008, 08:23:36 PM
I choose to read their paper online for free. [8D]
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: Steve on October 14, 2008, 01:56:15 PM
I have subscribed to the Tribune/World for over 30 years, 7 days a week.  My annual subscription expires 10-28 and I called 2 days ago to change to the Thurs.-Sun. package, mostly to save money.

What has really irked me over the years is that now the World says there is no change to subscription rates, but when they do up the subscription rates, they adjust the ending date of your current subscription to reflect the rate increase.  So if you paid 1 year extension and they then up the rates, they short your renewal date to reflect the price increase.  This has happened to me several times, and I consider it outright fraud.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: Hometown on October 14, 2008, 02:26:29 PM
I enjoy the whole ritual of getting a newspaper but there is so little of it there anymore that it is almost a parody of a paper.

Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: Red Arrow on October 14, 2008, 10:09:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hometown

I enjoy the whole ritual of getting a newspaper but there is so little of it there anymore that it is almost a parody of a paper.





If the comics get any smaller, I'll need a magnifying glass in addition to my bifocals.
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: PonderInc on October 16, 2008, 01:26:54 PM
Is it just me, or am I seeing more and more full page ads (or 3/4 page ads) and less content?  

Seems to be getting pretty thin on news.

sk
Title: Tulsa World announces price increase
Post by: Ed W on October 16, 2008, 05:43:00 PM
Well, they did say that sections would be combined and truncated, and that their writers were to produce shorter pieces.  That, when combined with a price increase, makes for less newspaper.

And it's one of the reasons why we've stopped purchasing TW for the newspaper pool at work.  I noticed that several stores have unsold stacks of the Sunday paper.  Maybe I'm not alone in thinking that it's not worth the increase.