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Title: Hell freezes over
Post by: rwarn17588 on October 02, 2008, 12:11:20 AM
Sen. Tom Coburn, Mr. Anti-Earmarks and Mr. We Gotta Cut Spending, voted yes on the $700 billion bailout proposal tonight.

I guess his days as Mr. Fiscal Conservative are over.

Inhofe, who never met a highway bill he didn't like, voted no.

This has been a weird year.
Title: Hell freezes over
Post by: Jonette on October 02, 2008, 12:16:32 AM



Hell hath frozeth over!!!



LOL





Title: Hell freezes over
Post by: Conan71 on October 02, 2008, 12:30:51 AM
I'm still trying to assess all the tax cuts in this proposal and figure out their relevance.

Michelle Malkin got this wrong when she called it a "crap sandwich".

It's a double **** burger with sleaze.

Title: Hell freezes over
Post by: Hoss on October 02, 2008, 12:33:12 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

I'm still trying to assess all the tax cuts in this proposal and figure out their relevance.

Michelle Malkin got this wrong when she called it a "crap sandwich".

It's a double **** burger with sleaze.





She parroted that from Boehner I thought.  I'm pretty sure it was Boehner that called it a crap sandwich.
Title: Hell freezes over
Post by: Conan71 on October 02, 2008, 09:09:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

I'm still trying to assess all the tax cuts in this proposal and figure out their relevance.

Michelle Malkin got this wrong when she called it a "crap sandwich".

It's a double **** burger with sleaze.





She parroted that from Boehner I thought.  I'm pretty sure it was Boehner that called it a crap sandwich.



Well, then, they both got it wrong.
Title: Hell freezes over
Post by: Gaspar on October 02, 2008, 10:26:43 AM
From 3 pages to over 400.  $101 billion dollars in earmarks added.

There's a little something for ACORN. . .
a tax exemption on the import of wooden arrows (pancakes). . .
a little something for Puerto Rican run distilleries. . .
a little something for buffalo seamen research. . .
a little something for the litigants in the 1989 Exxon Valdez incident. . .
a little something for wool research. . .
a little something for auto racing. . .
a little something for miners. . .
a little something for American Samoa. . .
a little something for the railroads. . .
a little something for film and television production houses. . .
so putting the bill through the senate filter produced 398 additional pages and 15% pork.

Does that make it 85% lean turkey?

(http://www.cargillturkey.com/PackagingLinks/HSWChubs/HSW-GrdTky85-15a.jpg)

Can't wait until the whole thing is published and we can examine the details of the pet projects and oust those responsible!

Title: Hell freezes over
Post by: Gaspar on October 02, 2008, 10:51:37 AM
Ohh!  I'm excited.  They are getting ready to post the text of the legislation.
. . . . . .


Title: Hell freezes over
Post by: rwarn17588 on October 02, 2008, 12:54:55 PM
^^ Please explain to me why anyone should take Coburn seriously, ever again.
Title: Hell freezes over
Post by: Hometown on October 02, 2008, 01:08:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588

^^ Please explain to me why anyone should take Coburn seriously, ever again.



Because he is ambitious and dangerous and doesn't take care of the needs of his constituents and because he is still in office.

Title: Hell freezes over
Post by: jamesrage on October 02, 2008, 06:22:36 PM

 It will be interesting to see who changed their minds based on the bribes/pork that was added to the bail out bill.
Title: Hell freezes over
Post by: Conan71 on October 02, 2008, 09:08:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588

^^ Please explain to me why anyone should take Coburn seriously, ever again.



Here's the thing, I think Coburn was only planning on a six year hitch.  He's got no other aspirations I'm aware of so his should have been an honest vote, free from special interest conflict or political ambition.  I was looking to him to be a bull**** barometer on this legislation.  

All the new spending coupled with tax cuts, flies in the face of his predictable fiscal conservative positions.  The only thing I gather from it is this must be a desperate enough of a situation that he's willing to throw caution to the wind.  Or maybe he's just reached a lame duck "f-it" attitude if he's not running in '10.

Title: Hell freezes over
Post by: MDepr2007 on October 02, 2008, 11:18:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588

^^ Please explain to me why anyone should take Coburn seriously, ever again.



Why do they take Inhofe seriously still? Inhofe would have voted yes if he wasn't trying to be elected again.
Title: Hell freezes over
Post by: Double A on October 02, 2008, 11:53:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588

^^ Please explain to me why anyone should take Coburn seriously, ever again.



Here's the thing, I think Coburn was only planning on a six year hitch.  He's got no other aspirations I'm aware of so his should have been an honest vote, free from special interest conflict or political ambition.  I was looking to him to be a bull**** barometer on this legislation.  

All the new spending coupled with tax cuts, flies in the face of his predictable fiscal conservative positions.  The only thing I gather from it is this must be a desperate enough of a situation that he's willing to throw caution to the wind.  Or maybe he's just reached a lame duck "f-it" attitude if he's not running in '10.





Maybe Dr. Hypocrite needs to get a loan to make payroll for his private practice and Mr. Fiscal Conservatism's credit sucks so bad he can't get one without the bailout "rescue"?