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Title: Fair
Post by: AMP on September 25, 2008, 10:42:14 PM
Midway is criss crossed versus long runways.  

Gone are the old cool generators replaced by underground PSO AEP power.

Gone is the $1.00 Coke Machine at the west entrance to the cabaret theater that stood there for the past 8 years.  It was just outside the door of the Pork Council's sandwich stand. Now all pop is $3.50 other than a few machines that were changed to a higher price of $2.00 just for the Fair.

Appeared there were way more food vendors than ever before.  

Moved is the Oklahoma Stage, it now sits on the West end near where Bell's once stood.  Wonder how the neighbors like the noise from that arrangement?  

Missing was a large number of folks with mega pass wrist bands.  

New was the No Parking During Events signs in the surrounding neighborhoods.  

Seen were lots of Law enforcement and wrecker services towing many vehicles that parked in the wrong spots.

Missing is the great championship auto and motorcycle racing that once was the showcase of the Fair.  Also missing is the mega multi-engine tractor pulls and Monster Truck shows from the Grandstand attractions.  

Missing are the cool rides, sidewalks and seating that once was Bell's Amusement Park.  Forever to many people a staple of the Fair, Replaced by additional parking and a giant stage.  

Overall it seems to of lost many of the attractions that once made the Tulsa County
Fair have great State Fair feel.
Title: Fair
Post by: Hoss on September 25, 2008, 10:50:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by AMP

Midway is criss crossed versus long runways.  

Gone are the old cool generators replaced by underground PSO AEP power.

Gone is the $1.00 Coke Machine at the west entrance to the cabaret theater that stood there for the past 8 years.  It was just outside the door of the Pork Council's sandwich stand. Now all pop is $3.50 other than a few machines that were changed to a higher price of $2.00 just for the Fair.

Appeared there were way more food vendors than ever before.  

Moved is the Oklahoma Stage, it now sits on the West end near where Bell's once stood.  Wonder how the neighbors like the noise from that arrangement?  

Missing was a large number of folks with mega pass wrist bands.  

New was the No Parking During Events signs in the surrounding neighborhoods.  

Seen were lots of Law enforcement and wrecker services towing many vehicles that parked in the wrong spots.

Missing is the great championship auto and motorcycle racing that once was the showcase of the Fair.  Also missing is the mega multi-engine tractor pulls and Monster Truck shows from the Grandstand attractions.  

Missing are the cool rides, sidewalks and seating that once was Bell's Amusement Park.  Forever to many people a staple of the Fair, Replaced by additional parking and a giant stage.  

Overall it seems to of lost many of the attractions that once made the Tulsa County
Fair have great State Fair feel.



Since the county treated Bell's the way they did, I have boycotted every TSF since.  I REFUSE to help them profit from it.
Title: Fair
Post by: Breadburner on September 26, 2008, 06:57:25 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by AMP

Midway is criss crossed versus long runways.  

Gone are the old cool generators replaced by underground PSO AEP power.

Gone is the $1.00 Coke Machine at the west entrance to the cabaret theater that stood there for the past 8 years.  It was just outside the door of the Pork Council's sandwich stand. Now all pop is $3.50 other than a few machines that were changed to a higher price of $2.00 just for the Fair.

Appeared there were way more food vendors than ever before.  

Moved is the Oklahoma Stage, it now sits on the West end near where Bell's once stood.  Wonder how the neighbors like the noise from that arrangement?  

Missing was a large number of folks with mega pass wrist bands.  

New was the No Parking During Events signs in the surrounding neighborhoods.  

Seen were lots of Law enforcement and wrecker services towing many vehicles that parked in the wrong spots.

Missing is the great championship auto and motorcycle racing that once was the showcase of the Fair.  Also missing is the mega multi-engine tractor pulls and Monster Truck shows from the Grandstand attractions.  

Missing are the cool rides, sidewalks and seating that once was Bell's Amusement Park.  Forever to many people a staple of the Fair, Replaced by additional parking and a giant stage.  

Overall it seems to of lost many of the attractions that once made the Tulsa County
Fair have great State Fair feel.



Since the county treated Bell's the way they did, I have boycotted every TSF since.  I REFUSE to help them profit from it.



Good Work.....
Title: Fair
Post by: sgrizzle on September 26, 2008, 07:00:51 AM
I haven't gone since the Bells thing and may go back once Randi Miller is gone.
Title: Fair
Post by: RecycleMichael on September 26, 2008, 07:05:10 AM
I am going to the fair every day.

My staff and some 60 volunteers are working to help the fair recycle.

I need to find some stick-em that quickly dissolves. My plan is to coat some dimes and win enough of the glass plates for a complete set.
Title: Fair
Post by: OkieDiva on September 26, 2008, 03:14:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I need to find some stick-em that quickly dissolves. My plan is to coat some dimes and win enough of the glass plates for a complete set.



Shouldn't be a problem finding something that works. The fair is, after all, the stickiest place on earth.
Title: Fair
Post by: Conan71 on September 26, 2008, 03:45:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by AMP

Midway is criss crossed versus long runways.  

Gone are the old cool generators replaced by underground PSO AEP power.

Gone is the $1.00 Coke Machine at the west entrance to the cabaret theater that stood there for the past 8 years.  It was just outside the door of the Pork Council's sandwich stand. Now all pop is $3.50 other than a few machines that were changed to a higher price of $2.00 just for the Fair.

Appeared there were way more food vendors than ever before.  

Moved is the Oklahoma Stage, it now sits on the West end near where Bell's once stood.  Wonder how the neighbors like the noise from that arrangement?  

Missing was a large number of folks with mega pass wrist bands.  

New was the No Parking During Events signs in the surrounding neighborhoods.  

Seen were lots of Law enforcement and wrecker services towing many vehicles that parked in the wrong spots.

Missing is the great championship auto and motorcycle racing that once was the showcase of the Fair.  Also missing is the mega multi-engine tractor pulls and Monster Truck shows from the Grandstand attractions.  

Missing are the cool rides, sidewalks and seating that once was Bell's Amusement Park.  Forever to many people a staple of the Fair, Replaced by additional parking and a giant stage.  

Overall it seems to of lost many of the attractions that once made the Tulsa County
Fair have great State Fair feel.



Since the county treated Bell's the way they did, I have boycotted every TSF since.  I REFUSE to help them profit from it.



Sure is a pretty asphalt amusement park, isn't it? [xx(]

I didn't go last year for the exact reason stated.  I don't think they'd learned their lease was not being renewed till Nov. of '06 so I did go that year.

I'm conflicted.  On the one hand, I don't want to hand over any more money to them, but I'd like to see the midway improvements my tax dollars have paid for.

Title: Fair
Post by: Hoss on September 26, 2008, 04:20:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by AMP

Midway is criss crossed versus long runways.  

Gone are the old cool generators replaced by underground PSO AEP power.

Gone is the $1.00 Coke Machine at the west entrance to the cabaret theater that stood there for the past 8 years.  It was just outside the door of the Pork Council's sandwich stand. Now all pop is $3.50 other than a few machines that were changed to a higher price of $2.00 just for the Fair.

Appeared there were way more food vendors than ever before.  

Moved is the Oklahoma Stage, it now sits on the West end near where Bell's once stood.  Wonder how the neighbors like the noise from that arrangement?  

Missing was a large number of folks with mega pass wrist bands.  

New was the No Parking During Events signs in the surrounding neighborhoods.  

Seen were lots of Law enforcement and wrecker services towing many vehicles that parked in the wrong spots.

Missing is the great championship auto and motorcycle racing that once was the showcase of the Fair.  Also missing is the mega multi-engine tractor pulls and Monster Truck shows from the Grandstand attractions.  

Missing are the cool rides, sidewalks and seating that once was Bell's Amusement Park.  Forever to many people a staple of the Fair, Replaced by additional parking and a giant stage.  

Overall it seems to of lost many of the attractions that once made the Tulsa County
Fair have great State Fair feel.



Since the county treated Bell's the way they did, I have boycotted every TSF since.  I REFUSE to help them profit from it.



Sure is a pretty asphalt amusement park, isn't it? [xx(]

I didn't go last year for the exact reason stated.  I don't think they'd learned their lease was not being renewed till Nov. of '06 so I did go that year.

I'm conflicted.  On the one hand, I don't want to hand over any more money to them, but I'd like to see the midway improvements my tax dollars have paid for.





I agree, but for me, Bell's was ALWAYS a part of my TSF experience.  The Himalaya was always fun (especially if you had a date) and the Zingo always capped it off for me.  Funnel Cakes (mmmm).

Loved watching people trying to not lose their lunch on the Gravitron.  Of course, not realizing what might be in store if they actually did, I never thought about.
Title: Fair
Post by: patric on September 26, 2008, 04:57:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by AMP

Moved is the Oklahoma Stage, it now sits on the West end near where Bell's once stood.  Wonder how the neighbors like the noise from that arrangement?


There have been lots of complaints, and the response from the county is that they will try to talk the promoter to turn the sound down.
That really sounds proactive, doesnt it?
Title: Fair
Post by: joiei on September 26, 2008, 10:42:10 PM
I am going tomorrow, Saturday, to check out the wedding cake exhibit and maybe eat some crap food.
Title: Fair
Post by: buckeye on September 27, 2008, 11:38:07 AM
I understand nostalgia, but for generators?  Those things have been my least favorite part of any fair since I was old enough to have a memory.  Good riddance.

Shame about the tractor pulls, though.
Title: Fair
Post by: Hoss on September 27, 2008, 11:51:26 AM
I'm going to the Tulsa Oiler open house at the BOK tomorrow.  No Fair for me!
Title: Fair
Post by: OUGrad05 on September 27, 2008, 10:41:51 PM
Went today.  

This is two years in a row I've been disappointed...why are they letting Ford pay them to be the only automobile display at the fair?  The biggest reason I go is to check out all the cars.  There hasn't been **** there the last two years so I guess this was my last trip to the fair :(
Title: Fair
Post by: patric on September 27, 2008, 10:52:43 PM
One of those oddball links that you have to copy-and-paste manually:

http://www.fox23.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=33536@video.fox23.com&navCatId=5
Title: Fair
Post by: MDepr2007 on September 28, 2008, 12:09:40 AM
Required GPS devices for anyone under 8 so sheriffs don't have to waste time looking for more than 2 dozen lost kids a day.

Metal detectors at the gates ( more on that if the media even covers it)[;)]
Title: Fair
Post by: tim huntzinger on September 28, 2008, 07:56:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I am going to the fair every day.

My staff and some 60 volunteers are working to help the fair recycle.

I need to find some stick-em that quickly dissolves. My plan is to coat some dimes and win enough of the glass plates for a complete set.



But are you and yours PAYING guests?
Title: Fair
Post by: tim huntzinger on September 28, 2008, 08:31:31 AM
If you want the sights and sounds of the Midway and are a refusenik, here are 17 mins of sights and sounds from a few years ago: Video courtesy yer internet pal . . . (//%22http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7666472435629100809&ei=rYXfSNXQIoXc-AHy_ZiaCw&q=tulsa+state+fair%22)
Title: Fair
Post by: RecycleMichael on September 28, 2008, 09:02:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tim huntzinger

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I am going to the fair every day.

My staff and some 60 volunteers are working to help the fair recycle.

I need to find some stick-em that quickly dissolves. My plan is to coat some dimes and win enough of the glass plates for a complete set.



But are you and yours PAYING guests?



Why does that matter to you?

I am spending almost a hundred dollars a day buying bags and supplies for the recycling efforts, but the volunteers get in free, get some food coupons and a free t-shirt.  

If you want to volunteer to help recycle at events, you can often get perks. Call our office to help make Tulsa greener.
Title: Fair
Post by: tim huntzinger on September 28, 2008, 09:28:29 AM
Those who are refuseniks are saying they are voting with their wallets.  You say you are going every day but do not say if it is for free.  Having worked nonprofit for nine years myself, I know that it is all a labor of love, but still, you are spending others' cash and that is not the same thing as the posters here saying they will not attend.

Volunteer?  Ha ha! In the immortal words of Francis Cross in Scrooged: 'Scrape 'em off, Claire!'
Title: Fair
Post by: Steve on September 28, 2008, 01:37:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

I'm conflicted.  On the one hand, I don't want to hand over any more money to them, but I'd like to see the midway improvements my tax dollars have paid for.



My sentiments exactly.  I think the last time I went to the fair was around 1997, and I live within walking distance of the fairgrounds.

About 6 months ago, I left my car for repair on 11th street one morning and decided to walk back to my house at 26th & Yale.  Along the way, I walked through the fairgrounds to check out the improvements.  I thought it all looked very nice, a much needed updating although I can't speak for the quality of the work.  I saw enough of it then and won't be attending the fair this year.
Title: Fair
Post by: FOTD on September 28, 2008, 01:57:36 PM
Have they thought of involving the local community more? Do they still have pie contests and that type of event? Speaking of cars, they should let all the collectors go place their antiques for display. Maybe other types of local talent display and contests? Bring back the old flavor of what the Fair was in it's original form.

Has the animal contests and shows changed much?

Less noise sounds better....
Title: Fair
Post by: inteller on September 28, 2008, 03:17:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by OUGrad05

Went today.  

This is two years in a row I've been disappointed...why are they letting Ford pay them to be the only automobile display at the fair?  The biggest reason I go is to check out all the cars.  There hasn't been **** there the last two years so I guess this was my last trip to the fair :(



huh?  I remember seeing Chevys there last year.
Title: Fair
Post by: sgrizzle on September 28, 2008, 08:30:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by OUGrad05

Went today.  

This is two years in a row I've been disappointed...why are they letting Ford pay them to be the only automobile display at the fair?  The biggest reason I go is to check out all the cars.  There hasn't been **** there the last two years so I guess this was my last trip to the fair :(




I didn't go last year but I remember there being a ton of Fords by the barns (due to sponsorships) but almost every vendor was on display in the IPE building.
huh?  I remember seeing Chevys there last year.

Title: Fair
Post by: shadows on September 28, 2008, 11:09:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

Have they thought of involving the local community more? Do they still have pie contests and that type of event? Speaking of cars, they should let all the collectors go place their antiques for display. Maybe other types of local talent display and contests? Bring back the old flavor of what the Fair was in it's original form.

Has the animal contests and shows changed much?

Less noise sounds better....


Your lost in the past operation of the Tulsa Free State Fair and need to update.  The fair has been changed to where it has been industrialized for profit operations.   Try to get a copy of the amount of money that is taken in and how it is locally distributed and the millions of dollars that leave town when the final light is turned out.
Title: Fair
Post by: cannon_fodder on September 29, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
lol @ shadows.  In the good old days there was no profit to be had from state fairs.  That's why Murphy Brothers has been doing this since 1946, they did it for free for the first 60 years and only recently started making money on it.
- - -

My family went to the fair.  Ate some good food.  Enjoyed the animals and the Made in Oklahoma section.  The Kids Only Zone was pretty cool too.  Skipped the rides and midway.

Glad to see Bell's isn't "just a parking lot."  It's a $10 VIP parking lot.
Title: Fair
Post by: Conan71 on September 29, 2008, 10:51:59 AM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

lol @ shadows.  In the good old days there was no profit to be had from state fairs.  That's why Murphy Brothers has been doing this since 1946, they did it for free for the first 60 years and only recently started making money on it.
- - -

My family went to the fair.  Ate some good food.  Enjoyed the animals and the Made in Oklahoma section.  The Kids Only Zone was pretty cool too.  Skipped the rides and midway.

Glad to see Bell's isn't "just a parking lot."  It's a $10 VIP parking lot.



Wasn't the big cat exhibit and Bier Garten supposed to be where Bell's was?

Bier Garten is on the east end, can't remember where we saw the cats.

Title: Fair
Post by: Michael71 on September 29, 2008, 11:52:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I am going to the fair every day.

My staff and some 60 volunteers are working to help the fair recycle.

I need to find some stick-em that quickly dissolves. My plan is to coat some dimes and win enough of the glass plates for a complete set.



I have a collection of band-logo mirrors.[:o)]
Title: Fair
Post by: patric on September 29, 2008, 07:20:33 PM
Good Fair story on 6 about city departments either not taking ownership of their mistakes or failing to use some discretion:
http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=9093636
Title: Fair
Post by: sgrizzle on September 29, 2008, 08:26:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by patric

Good Fair story on 6 about city departments either not taking ownership of their mistakes or failing to use some discretion:
http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=9093636



I think it's the neighborhood getting a taste of their own medicine. Complain for a few decades about the fair "messing up your neighborhood" as if they just built it. Eventually the city/county will overcompensate.
Title: Fair
Post by: MichaelBates on September 29, 2008, 10:33:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

Have they thought of involving the local community more? Do they still have pie contests and that type of event? Speaking of cars, they should let all the collectors go place their antiques for display. Maybe other types of local talent display and contests? Bring back the old flavor of what the Fair was in it's original form.



Every summer the fair sends out a thick "premium book" with a list of all the contests you can enter. Painting, photography, scrapbooking, pumpkin decorating, needlework, quilting -- and within each category there are subcategories and age classifications, with ribbons and cash prizes awarded in each category. Plus FFA and 4-H have their contests.

The old-fashioned fair is still there, if you look for it. And as someone mentioned, there's also Tulsa County Free Fair.
Title: Fair
Post by: sgrizzle on September 30, 2008, 10:48:36 AM
Hey look, neighbors complaining about the fair...


Wheeee....




http://www.fox23.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=74574f88-1a97-44ab-a70a-38131f5552d4
Title: Fair
Post by: patric on September 30, 2008, 03:47:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Hey look, neighbors complaining about the fair...


They have more to complain about today after a traffic engineer "accidentally" put No Parking signs where cars were legally parked.
They took the signs down the next day, but not until after legally parked neighbors had their cars impounded.

Still playing dirty pool at the fairgrounds...
Title: Fair
Post by: Conan71 on September 30, 2008, 04:06:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MichaelBates

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

Have they thought of involving the local community more? Do they still have pie contests and that type of event? Speaking of cars, they should let all the collectors go place their antiques for display. Maybe other types of local talent display and contests? Bring back the old flavor of what the Fair was in it's original form.



Every summer the fair sends out a thick "premium book" with a list of all the contests you can enter. Painting, photography, scrapbooking, pumpkin decorating, needlework, quilting -- and within each category there are subcategories and age classifications, with ribbons and cash prizes awarded in each category. Plus FFA and 4-H have their contests.

The old-fashioned fair is still there, if you look for it. And as someone mentioned, there's also Tulsa County Free Fair.



Who'd have thought there were so many talented confectionary and cake artists in the area?  The size of that display was astounding.  

The potential sugar shock was staggering. [:P]

Title: Fair
Post by: Hawkins on September 30, 2008, 10:02:35 PM
Does anyone know if concealed carry is permitted during the Fair?

I remember this being an issue a few years ago, but can't remember how it turned out.

Did someone mention metal detectors? Are there metal detectors at the entrances?
Title: Fair
Post by: FOTD on September 30, 2008, 10:42:09 PM
That reminds me.....do you know why they call it a fair?

Nobody could spell mediocre.
Title: Fair
Post by: Conan71 on October 01, 2008, 01:01:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins

Does anyone know if concealed carry is permitted during the Fair?

I remember this being an issue a few years ago, but can't remember how it turned out.

Did someone mention metal detectors? Are there metal detectors at the entrances?



Might want to re-read your CCL stuff to make sure.  Remember, first and foremost, it's your responsibility to comply.  When in doubt, lock it up in your glove box or leave it at home.

Title: Fair
Post by: MDepr2007 on October 01, 2008, 06:51:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins

Does anyone know if concealed carry is permitted during the Fair?

I remember this being an issue a few years ago, but can't remember how it turned out.

Did someone mention metal detectors? Are there metal detectors at the entrances?


I don't think detectors are in use since a guy with a reported gun was being chased over the weekend[;)]
Title: Fair
Post by: sgrizzle on October 01, 2008, 07:57:56 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MDepr2007


I don't think detectors are in use since a guy with a reported gun was being chased over the weekend[;)]



So someone thinks maybe someone has a gun.

We all know that reports to police are highly accurate.
(http://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl1/1/13255/15_2008/2386684684_9db54ab0e2.jpg)
Title: Fair
Post by: MDepr2007 on October 01, 2008, 01:01:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by MDepr2007


I don't think detectors are in use since a guy with a reported gun was being chased over the weekend[;)]



So someone thinks maybe someone has a gun.

We all know that reports to police are highly accurate.
(http://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl1/1/13255/15_2008/2386684684_9db54ab0e2.jpg)



But I beleive this was reportedly seen by one of the deputies..
Title: Fair
Post by: sgrizzle on October 02, 2008, 10:40:15 AM
Fair ride shut down after it broke:
http://www.kten.com/Global/story.asp?S=9112112
Title: Fair
Post by: inteller on October 04, 2008, 09:52:13 PM
last year, the carnies would let parents ride free with their small kids who couldn't ride alone.  this year they are charging all riders.  They are hurting bad.  one of the food vendors (selling a regular fair favorite, bratwurst) said that traffic was really low.  looks like removing bells was a big **** up.  i think last year they did ok because lots of people came that didn't know bells was gone.
Title: Fair
Post by: jne on October 06, 2008, 11:02:07 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by OUGrad05

Went today.  

This is two years in a row I've been disappointed...why are they letting Ford pay them to be the only automobile display at the fair?  The biggest reason I go is to check out all the cars.  There hasn't been **** there the last two years so I guess this was my last trip to the fair :(




I didn't go last year but I remember there being a ton of Fords by the barns (due to sponsorships) but almost every vendor was on display in the IPE building.
huh?  I remember seeing Chevys there last year.





I went Saturday night, glad to see folks using the park and ride.  There were some nice folks out.  
I also like to check out the cars/trucks.  All I saw were Fords (bummer) and the overpriced minitrucks.