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Not At My Table - Political Discussions => National & International Politics => Topic started by: FOTD on September 23, 2008, 09:00:15 AM

Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: FOTD on September 23, 2008, 09:00:15 AM
And remember to vote for Andrew Rice also!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/22/cnn.poll/

"By a 2-to-1 ratio, Americans blame Republicans over Democrats for the financial crisis that has swept across the country the past few weeks, a new national poll suggests."

Don't get fooled again!

and see this too.....Obama Engages Voters with Techonology Policy
http://www.renodiscontent.com/2008/09/21/obama-engages-with-techonology-policy/

"By all accounts, the John McCain Campaign has demonstrated a lack of interest in technology policy (McCain Technology Policy). In direct contrast to the Obama campaign which has taken a much more strategic interest in how technology can be deployed to maximize institutional efficiency, government transparency, privacy rights, investment in research and development (particularly in the area of renewable energy technologies), and education. "

Ok all you lame McCainer's, splash away.
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: Conan71 on September 23, 2008, 09:45:38 AM
Sorry, can't vote for people who think it's okay to employ celebrity child molesters to headline their local fund-raisers.

Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: dbacks fan on September 23, 2008, 09:48:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Sorry, can't vote for people who think it's okay to employ celebrity child molesters to headline their local fund-raisers.





Can you be more specific?
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: Conan71 on September 23, 2008, 09:53:42 AM
quote:
Originally posted by dbacks fan

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Sorry, can't vote for people who think it's okay to employ celebrity child molesters to headline their local fund-raisers.





Can you be more specific?



Don Henley headlined a local fundraiser for Andrew Rice.

If Henley weren't rich and famous, he'd now be known as "Inmate #0897654" in San Quentin.

Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: FOTD on September 23, 2008, 11:16:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by dbacks fan

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Sorry, can't vote for people who think it's okay to employ celebrity child molesters to headline their local fund-raisers.





Can you be more specific?



Don Henley headlined a local fundraiser for Andrew Rice.

If Henley weren't rich and famous, he'd now be known as "Inmate #0897654" in San Quentin.





An exageration..... a real stretch.

Don't leave out Alec Baldwin.....

But do tell us all the things you look forward to Jim Inhofe accomplishing on your behalf. And what has he done for you to this point besides carry the banner for getting the government off your back?

Voting for Inhofe is an endorsement of Dumbya and Cheeney. (btw, it's fun to watch Keating go after tweedle dee http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080923_11_A1_Angler247365)
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: Conan71 on September 23, 2008, 12:25:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

And what has he done for you to this point besides carry the banner for getting the government off your back?

(btw, it's fun to watch Keating go after tweedle dee http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080923_11_A1_Angler247365)



You say that as if it were a bad thing to have the gov't off our backs.

I don't believe I've ever seen the word: "chickensh!t" on the front page of the World before.

Oh yes, Alec Baldwin, another pervert, child-abusing lib.

Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: Hoss on September 23, 2008, 12:40:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

And what has he done for you to this point besides carry the banner for getting the government off your back?

(btw, it's fun to watch Keating go after tweedle dee http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080923_11_A1_Angler247365)



You say that as if it were a bad thing to have the gov't off our backs.

I don't believe I've ever seen the word: "chickensh!t" on the front page of the World before.

Oh yes, Alec Baldwin, another pervert, child-abusing lib.





I noticed that comment (chickensh*t) too and had to make a double take.  I'm sure I'm one of the surviving members of this generation who take the World in print just because I always have and habits like a morning coffee with a read of the paper die hard.

It's just not the same with your morning coffee and poppin' on your laptop.

But yep, Keating sure sounded like there was no love lost there.

[:O]
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: FOTD on September 23, 2008, 12:40:55 PM
Two sides to every story!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080923/ap_en_tv/people_baldwin_3


Loved seeeing Chickensh*t spelled out. Raised my low opinion of Franky just a tad. He oughta be thankful he got outed. He'd be in the Illinois or the toilet by now.....


Landslide approaching...FEAR NOT! HELP ON THE WAY!
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: Hoss on September 23, 2008, 12:48:52 PM
Wonder how many Tulsans are up in arms over the fact that the World didn't censor chickensh*t?
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: FOTD on September 23, 2008, 01:06:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

Wonder how many Tulsans are up in arms over the fact that the World didn't censor chickensh*t?



Our World changed.....except for those in Dumbf*ckistan...they're too bitter and stupid to make an issue over a word they don't comprehend.

They plan to vote for the souless old white guy and they don't read anyway......
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: FOTD on September 24, 2008, 12:45:39 PM


Economic fears give Obama a clear lead in poll More voters trust the Democrat to deal with the economy, giving him a 9-point edge among likely voters, according to new Post-ABC News survey.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26862018/from/ET/
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: FOTD on September 24, 2008, 01:07:00 PM
You right wing nuts have spread to the wind.

Uncle? Can we hear an "uncle" before the debates?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5873320&page=1

Economic Woes Edge Obama Over McCain
Stephanopoulos: No Candidate With More Than 50% Support in Sept. Has Lost Presidential Race Since '48.

Not gonna happen.

WP: Obama Surges Ahead in Latest Poll. "The poll found that, among likely voters, Obama now leads McCain by 52 percent to 43 percent. Two weeks ago, in the days immediately following the Republican National Convention, the race was essentially even, with McCain at 49 percent and Obama at 47 percent."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/23/AR2008092303667.html?hpid=topnews
"Just 9 percent of those surveyed rated the economy as good or excellent, the first time that number has been in single digits since the days just before the 1992 election. Just 14 percent said the country is heading in the right direction, equaling the record low on that question in polls dating back to 1973."

Charles Darwin said,
"It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change."

Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: shadows on September 24, 2008, 01:30:28 PM
And there was Hoover ® (1929-1933) with a promise of "A car in every garage and chicken in every pot" that preceded the Great Depression.  

Tulsa is promised "A tank of gas and water with chickensh*t" in it.
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: FOTD on September 25, 2008, 01:46:25 PM
You go with gallup.

The devil buys into this approach!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13876.html
"State by state, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill). is showing signs of breaking open a presidential race that looked deadlocked through much of September.

A new wave of polls released Wednesday showed decisive leads for Obama in the critical states of Colorado, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

That follows noticeable progress in polls in Virginia, which had looked safe for Sen. John McCain, and Florida, which had looked promising for McCain.

This is the first time that one of the candidates has dominated state polls in the most closely contested battlegrounds.

Republican strategist Karl Rove had predicted this tectonic shift, writing at Rove.com earlier this week: "f the movement toward Obama in national polls continue to percolate down to the states, we could see an Obama lead later this week."

Wisconsin is the most closely fought battleground where McCain has made noticeable progress. Polls show that Obama is still ahead, but he has not put away the Badger State, as some had expected.

Opinion Research polls for Time magazine and CNN released Wednesday showed:

— Colorado: Obama 51, McCain 45 among registered voters. In late August, McCain had been ahead, 49 to 44. Among likely voters, Obama led in the new poll by 51 to 47.

— Michigan: Obama 51, McCain 44 among registered voters. Among likely voters, Obama leads 51 to 46.

— Pennsylvania: Obama 52, McCain 43 among registered voters. Among likely voters, Obama leads 53 to 44.

In summary, the campaigns agree that since the conventions:

Obama has gained in Florida, Virginia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Indiana and New Mexico.

McCain gained in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Alaska and North Dakota.

Both campaigns claim gains in Iowa.

Ohio remains a toss-up —perhaps the decisive prize. Nevada and New Hampshire are too close to call."



Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: guido911 on September 25, 2008, 02:21:59 PM
According to Zogby, the landslide might be for the "old shoe" John McCain:

http://www.federalreview.com/2008/09/zogby-predicting-mccain-landslide.htm

Stop relying on polls. They are meaningless.
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: FOTD on September 25, 2008, 03:14:37 PM
FOTD relies on gut instinct not polls!
You doe doe, McCain ain't winning squat without a follow up revolution!

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
-- Henry Louis Mencken

Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: waterboy on September 25, 2008, 04:12:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by shadows

And there was Hoover ® (1929-1933) with a promise of "A car in every garage and chicken in every pot" that preceded the Great Depression.  

Tulsa is promised "A tank of gas and water with chickensh*t" in it.




Now that's clever.[;)]

Thank you Arkansas. When we said we wanted to go green we didn't mean sick chicken green.
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: Friendly Bear on September 26, 2008, 09:26:54 AM
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

According to Zogby, the landslide might be for the "old shoe" John McCain:

http://www.federalreview.com/2008/09/zogby-predicting-mccain-landslide.htm

Stop relying on polls. They are meaningless.



Agreed.

Obama = RISK.

McCain = SAFETY.

Wall Street melts down; banks close; pension funds fail; economy falters; unemployment skyrockets; home values plummet; home sales tank; home construction falters

= GIGANTIC RISK.

McCain by a Landslide.

[:O]
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: Hoss on September 26, 2008, 09:32:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

According to Zogby, the landslide might be for the "old shoe" John McCain:

http://www.federalreview.com/2008/09/zogby-predicting-mccain-landslide.htm

Stop relying on polls. They are meaningless.



Agreed.

Obama = RISK.

McCain = SAFETY.

Wall Street melts down; banks close; pension funds fail; economy falters; unemployment skyrockets; home values plummet; home sales tank; home construction falters

= GIGANTIC RISK.

McCain by a Landslide.

[:O]



Rub the sleep from your eyes; you've been hibernating.

[:O]
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: FOTD on September 28, 2008, 05:55:06 PM
Galluping away with the lead.....
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110740/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Moves-50-42-Lead.aspx

September 28, 2008
Gallup Daily: Obama Moves to 50% to 42% Lead Obama registers strong performance over Thursday-Saturday time period

Ratings Say Obama Has Put Virginia, North Carolina and Indiana in Play
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002961652

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/ann-selzer-on-youth-minority-turnout.html

Whole lotta shaken goin on!
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: FOTD on October 01, 2008, 08:19:15 AM
For your reading pleasure!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3089433/Barack-Obamas-top-team-believes-he-can-win-White-House-by-a-landslide.html

US elections: Barack Obama's team believes he can win by a landslide
Barack Obama's senior aides believe he is on course for a landslide election victory over John McCain and will comfortably exceed most current predictions in the race for the White House.

"Their optimism, which is said to be shared by the Democratic candidate himself, is based on information from private polling and on faith in the powerful political organisation he has built in the key swing states.

Insiders say that Mr Obama's apparent calm through an unusually turbulent election season is because he believes that his strength among first time voters in several key states has been underestimated, both by the media and by the Republican Party.

Mr Obama has come under fire from within Democratic ranks over his message and his tactics. Critics say he has failed to connect with the blue-collar workers seen as crucial to winning the election, and too reluctant to make direct attacks on Mr McCain.

But his aides are convinced that he has a strong chance of winning no fewer than nine states won by George W.Bush in the closely contested 2000 election, including former Republican strongholds like North Carolina, Virginia and even Indiana, which have not voted Democrat for a generation.

David Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist, said last week that Obama had "a lot of opportunity" in states which Mr Bush won four years ago.

But in private briefings in Washington, a member of Mr Obama's inner circle of policy advisers went much further in spelling out why the campaign's working assumptions far exceed the expectations of independent observers.

"Public polling companies and the media have underestimated the scale of new Democratic voters registration in these states," the campaign official told a friend. "We're much stronger on the ground in Virginia and North Carolina than people realise. If we get out the vote this may not be close at all."

To win the presidency, Mr Obama must win 270 votes in the Electoral College, which awards votes to the winner of each state broadly in proportion to the size of the population.

Statewide surveys put the likely Electoral College result at a slender Obama win, 273-265. But his campaign staff believe they have a good chance of securing between 330 and 340 votes, and could win up to 364 votes, a landslide on the scale of Bill Clinton's wins.

The senior Obama advisor said that the Democratic nominee is confident of winning all the states held by John Kerry, the Democratic candidate four years ago, a total of 252 votes.

But his team believes he can also bank victories in Iowa, where he first emerged as a force in the campaign in January, and New Mexico, where Mr Kerry only lost by 20,000 votes in 2004. Those states would leave him just six votes short of outright victory.

Taking Colorado, as Mr Obama's team are very confident of doing, would put him over the top. Even winning the smaller state of Nevada, with its five electoral votes, would be enough to guarantee a 269-269 tie with Mr McCain. If that happens, the US consititution would hand the decision over to the Democrat dominated US House of Representatives, which would presumably come down in Mr Obama's favour.

Most pollsters would regard those expectations as uncontroversial. But the Obama camp is also confident of winning Ohio and Virginia, which commentators believe are "toss up" states with the two candidates chances at 50/50.

Last week Mr Obama began investing heavily in advertising in Indiana, Florida and North Carolina, which many had supposed to be a waste of time and money.

A Washington official who has discussed the electoral mathematics with one of Mr Obama's senior advisers told The Sunday Telegraph that the campaign is spending money only in states which it believes can, and indeed ought to, be won.

"Obama has many more paths to the nomination than McCain," the source said. "They think they can defend the Kerry states. Iowa is gone. That's five votes. New Mexico is in the bag. Then Obama has four or five different ways of winning. He can go Nevada or Colorado, Virginia, any of those, even Indiana.

"McCain has got to run the board, the whole Bush table. He can probably lose New Mexico and Iowa. He can't afford to lose anything else."

The official added: "The poll numbers say Florida's back in play. McCain hasn't spent a single penny there and that's Obama's calculation, that he can capitalise on that. The Republicans can't lose Florida or they're done for."

Conventional wisdom among pollsters is that Mr Obama is at risk of losing both Michigan and Pennsylvania and possibly even Wisconsin, all large Kerry states whose loss would be a damaging blow.

But the Obama camp believes that Wisconsin in safe and that he has strengthened his position in Pennsylvania with a good ground operation. Michigan, home of the Reagan Democrats, is a concern because Mr Obama did not campaign there in the primaries and race relations are raw, but they are confident they can hang on to his slender lead in the polls.

Mainstream pollsters on both sides of the aisle last week called the election as a dead heat. Mark Mellman, who was John Kerry's polling guru, said the 2008 election is "increasingly resembling the real map of 2004" and Matthew Dowd, a top strategist on Bush's re-election campaign, added: "States that were reliably red are reliably red, and states that were reliably blue are reliably blue."

But Mr Obama's campaign team reject that analysis. Their confidence that good organisation will more than compensate for latent racism will be reassuring to some Democrats, who were concerned by a poll last weekend that found Mr Obama would be six points higher in the polls if he were white.

The scale of their ambition will trouble those Democratic sceptics who consider Mr Obama's aides to be complacent and inexperienced in national campaigns. "

Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: FOTD on October 01, 2008, 08:22:24 AM
"Obama on the Rise: Obama Reaches 50% Percent in the Critical Trio of Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. Quinnipac Poll: "Pollsters attributed Obama's improved standing to the public's general approval of his debate performance, antipathy toward GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin and heightened confidence in the Illinois senator's ability to handle the economic crisis."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_battlegrounds;_ylt=AuuucKeqKT7bzY645kVNcVOyFz4D

If the market continues to tank, maybe Inhofe will too! The bright side to a dark republicanized economy....
Title: Landslide Approaching!
Post by: Hawkins on October 01, 2008, 08:00:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

According to Zogby, the landslide might be for the "old shoe" John McCain:

http://www.federalreview.com/2008/09/zogby-predicting-mccain-landslide.htm

Stop relying on polls. They are meaningless.



Tell that to Bob Dole.