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Title: NRA ads coming out
Post by: guido911 on September 22, 2008, 04:33:47 PM
Here ya go, from the bitter Americans clinging to, well you know...

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/video-nra-drops-four-new-ads-on-obama/
Title: NRA ads coming out
Post by: inteller on September 22, 2008, 07:39:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

Here ya go, from the bitter Americans clinging to, well you know...

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/22/video-nra-drops-four-new-ads-on-obama/



wow, they hired Toby Keith's brother/son/cousin....way to go NRA!
Title: NRA ads coming out
Post by: FOTD on September 22, 2008, 08:55:45 PM
Ads aimed at the citizens of Dumbf*ckistan!
Cool. Ineffective....


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Title: NRA ads coming out
Post by: Hoss on September 23, 2008, 08:28:33 AM
Especially since Factcheck.org is on the case, yet again.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html
Title: NRA ads coming out
Post by: guido911 on September 23, 2008, 09:29:48 AM
Paul and Paul Jr. endorsement for McCain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4nWfr_MJgA
Title: NRA ads coming out
Post by: guido911 on September 23, 2008, 04:06:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

Especially since Factcheck.org is on the case, yet again.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html



http://patterico.com/2008/09/23/unmitigated-garbage-from-factcheckorg-on-obamas-second-amendment-record/


Title: NRA ads coming out
Post by: Hoss on September 23, 2008, 04:28:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

Especially since Factcheck.org is on the case, yet again.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html



http://patterico.com/2008/09/23/unmitigated-garbage-from-factcheckorg-on-obamas-second-amendment-record/






Because I'm going to believe a wingnut (leaning either way) blog over an organization that's about as non-partisan as it gets.

I'll let ya know how that works out for me....

[}:)]
Title: Re: NRA ads coming out
Post by: Teatownclown on December 14, 2012, 11:01:24 PM
Does the NRA Represent Gun Manufacturers or Gun Owners?

http://www.thenation.com/blog/171776/does-nra-represent-gun-manufacturers-or-gun-owners?rel=facebook#

wow.... tax the ammo?
Title: Re: NRA ads coming out
Post by: Hoss on December 14, 2012, 11:11:07 PM
Quote from: Teatownclown on December 14, 2012, 11:01:24 PM
Does the NRA Represent Gun Manufacturers or Gun Owners?

http://www.thenation.com/blog/171776/does-nra-represent-gun-manufacturers-or-gun-owners?rel=facebook#

wow.... tax the ammo?

There's already an 11 percent excise tax on ammunition.

http://www.ttb.gov/firearms/reference_guide.shtml#2
Title: Re: NRA ads coming out
Post by: Teatownclown on December 14, 2012, 11:29:13 PM
5 billion $ annual sales x %111 tax.
Title: Re: NRA ads coming out
Post by: Conan71 on December 15, 2012, 10:30:37 AM
Quote from: Teatownclown on December 14, 2012, 11:01:24 PM
Does the NRA Represent Gun Manufacturers or Gun Owners?

http://www.thenation.com/blog/171776/does-nra-represent-gun-manufacturers-or-gun-owners?rel=facebook#

wow.... tax the ammo?

What a "Captain Obvious" Op-Ed.  They actually pay this columnist?
Title: Re: NRA ads coming out
Post by: Ed W on December 15, 2012, 11:35:20 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on December 15, 2012, 10:30:37 AM
What a "Captain Obvious" Op-Ed.  They actually pay this columnist?

The NRA lost a lot of members over their support of so-called "cop killer" bullets that were designed to penetrate bullet proof vests.  I left the organization over that. 

The writer pointed out that even the NRA membership favors gun laws that would keep firearms out of the hands of criminals and disturbed people.  And yes, I know that crafting laws that would do so is extremely difficult without trampling the rights of legitimate gun owners.  We've been down this road before.

But those kids in Connecticut had rights too.   The NRA ignores them in preference to gun owners and manufacturers.  They're fond of the "shall not be infringed" portion of the Second Amendment, yet they do not challenge those portions of the 1932 gun control law or the 1968 gun control law that put some sensible restrictions on gun ownership.  If they challenged them and lost, it would set a precedent for further restrictions.

Part of the function of our courts is to balance one set of rights against another set.  Where should the balance lie when a child has the right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" when a gun owner's right to keep and bear arms "shall not be infringed?"

As I said previously in another thread, I have nothing to offer that would preserve Second Amendment rights while removing guns from the hands of criminals and crazies.  I see no way to find a compromise between the two.  But I'm beginning to think that the Second Amendment is an obstacle in the way of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.   
Title: Re: NRA ads coming out
Post by: Red Arrow on December 15, 2012, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: Teatownclown on December 14, 2012, 11:01:24 PM
wow.... tax the ammo?

Going for the Barney Fife cure.  Guns but no bullets.
Title: Re: NRA ads coming out
Post by: patric on December 15, 2012, 11:58:34 AM
Quote from: Ed W on December 15, 2012, 11:35:20 AM
The NRA lost a lot of members over their support of so-called "cop killer" bullets that were designed to penetrate bullet proof vests.

The irony is that police reported body armor was worn in the movie-theater massacre in Aurora, and the Newtown, Conn. school massacre.
Title: Re: NRA ads coming out
Post by: Teatownclown on December 15, 2012, 03:45:23 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on December 15, 2012, 11:47:16 AM
Going for the Barney Fife cure.  Guns but no bullets.

NO. Only the rich will have loaded guns if the gov make it costly taxing the ammo and hardware so it's real expensive to stockpile.

Quotehttp://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/12/15/1341761/police-arrest-18-year-old-planning-school-shooting-plot/

On Friday, police in Bartlesville, Oklahoma arrested an 18-year-old high school student who was planning a school-shooting massacre plot. Sammie Eaglebear Chavez "tried to recruit other students to assist him with carrying out a plan to lure students into the school auditorium where he planned to begin shooting them after chaining the doors shut."

One of our children. How'd it get to this point?
Title: Re: NRA ads coming out
Post by: Red Arrow on December 15, 2012, 05:27:04 PM
Quote from: Teatownclown on December 15, 2012, 03:45:23 PM
NO. Only the rich will have loaded guns if the gov make it costly taxing the ammo and hardware so it's real expensive to stockpile.

I doubt it. Maybe only the rich will have legal bullets.