People!!!
We really need this hospital in Tulsa. Why have we not heard one single word from Mayor Kathy Taylor? Helloooooooooo, where are you at???
OSU Medical Center (or whatever it would be called if it stayed open) has 34 ICU beds that are full most of the time. I want to know where those patients are going to be when this facility closes. This "voucher system" that Boren and OU are speaking of does not include inpatients OSU MC currently provides care for. The specialty chronic care being spoke of is not the major concern. The real concern is for the critically ill, car accidents, rural patients that arrive at OSU MC on a regular basis. Where are these patients going to go in the future? It is going to be interesting to sit by and watch.
Why doesn't Ardent just absorb the cost of operating this hospital? Ardent has the money, use it for a write-off and shut the hell up already!! They make enough money over at Hillcrest and they knew when they made the purchase of Hillcrest Healthcare that this was part of the package, now deal with it. Don't put all these patients and employees out of a home.
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You blame the Mayor?
Why don't you blame everybody unrelated to the issue?
I blame Sarah Palin, Jessie Jackson, and Hannah Montana.
You know recyclemichael, I think your an idiot!!
I am not blaming Kathy Taylor, I just think it's really screwed up that she simply has not got a thing to say about something that is not only going on in HER city, but also in HER downtown area. SAY SOMETHING!!!!
Oh, I forgot, the name of the place is not BOK CENTER!!!!!!
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The blame goes to Richard Nixon another repiglican who during his regime opened up the health care system in this country to Big Pharma and privatization.
When are you going to get smart and realize these types have no idea about what's good for the taxpayer/citizen. But they sure carry the corporate world's water.
St. John's and Hillcrest will be the worse for this closure. And what becomes of the property?
Hotel site?
Maybe she can buy them some segways.
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Originally posted by Jonette
You know recyclemichael, I think your an idiot!!
I am not blaming Kathy Taylor, I just think it's really screwed up that she simply has not got a thing to say about something that is not only going on in HER city, but also in HER downtown area. SAY SOMETHING!!!!
Oh, I forgot, the name of the place is not BOK CENTER!!!!!!
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Why should she? If it's being mismanaged as a business sometimes can, what is she going to do about it. I sure hope not throw taxpayer money at it.
It kind of stinks, but these hospitals charge so much to begin with it's tough to even believe that they'd even go out of business. I'm guessing their profit margin is quite a bit larger than the average business.
I know what Jonette is saying though. She might spend some of her pr account to acknowledge the potential loss to the city of this business.
When I worked for the newspaper I remember our ad director working hard to bring awareness to area Rotary, Chamber, and other business associations what the loss of big players does to the whole city. Sometimes its helpful to use your position to lobby for some recognition of a private business that has such big effect.
She's done it before for AA and others. Wouldn't hurt.
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Originally posted by Jonette
Why doesn't Ardent just absorb the cost of operating this hospital? Ardent has the money, use it for a write-off and shut the hell up already!! They make enough money over at Hillcrest and they knew when they made the purchase of Hillcrest Healthcare that this was part of the package, now deal with it.
comrade marx, is that you?
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its fair play... its business baby...
i posted the day that ardent came to town, they'd do everything in their power to dump trmc...
your ire should be directed at the state officials who never saw fit to fund a public hospital in t-town...
Believe me, whatever is happening now is well orchestrated and includes at least the blessing of our Mayor. Whether or not it to punish Ardent for not playing well, they could easily be on 'Plan C' which involves bankrupting the operation so that it can then be purchased at $0.10/$1.00 by taxpayers and given to someone to operate, probably OSU.
They do this stuff all the time. btw, does the City own the Tulsa Club yet?
I've never known anyone to have a positive statement about Ardent. I interviewed for a job their once when it was TRMC and the place was woefully out of date. Supposedly hundreds of millions to get it to the state it should be in. I visited a doctor there last year and of the 20 or so chairs in the waiting room, no more than two matched.
The city did clean up Tulsa Club(hallelujah), but I haven't heard anything about seizing it yet.
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Originally posted by Jonette
You know recyclemichael, I think your an idiot!!
Thanks. Your opinion and proper spelling mean so much to me.
Why stop with the Mayor? Do you demand statements from state representative Lucky Lamons? How about State Senator Tom Adelson? How about Governor Brad Henry?
They each actually have a role in this. But you probably don't know who they are and just demand the Mayor get involved because you know who she is.
This sounds to me that the problem lies within the state budget and relationships between OU and OSU medical departments. Ardent stepped in and made it worse.
This topic has been discussed on this forum for some time. Brunoflipper called it from the beginning.
Ardent is a private business, just like the thousands of private businesses in Tulsa. They will succeed or fail based on many factors, the least of which is a public statement from city hall about their business problems.
I don't know what you expect the Mayor to say. Please explain yourself.
We can't read your mind, so if we ask questions about your statements, it might be because we are curious (or it might be because we are an idiot).
I am sure you all know that I KNOW the Oklahoma Legislature are the REAL blame for all this OSU Medical Center drama. I AM NOT STUPID!!! But we would sure like Kathy Taylor to at least acknowledge that she has some idea what the hell is going on and that she has attended at least one meeting on the issue. Her apparent "don't give a ****" attitude does not bode well.
Ardent obviously is only a business and I am aware that they really don't care about patients, only the money they can get from them.
Also Recyclemichael, I said your an idiot because you couldn't simply respond to my comment, but you had to be an a** also.
It's all OKAY though. Maybe something will actually be done about this whole thing when the Mayor or someone really important does not get an ICU bed because there are not enough in this city.
Also, Thank You Waterboy. That's really all we're asking.
As far as all the chairs matching. Who cares, I've been to some of the fancier facilities in town and although their equipment is great, their bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired.
We will sit and watch what happens.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I've never known anyone to have a positive statement about Ardent. I interviewed for a job their once when it was TRMC and the place was woefully out of date. Supposedly hundreds of millions to get it to the state it should be in. I visited a doctor there last year and of the 20 or so chairs in the waiting room, no more than two matched.
The city did clean up Tulsa Club(hallelujah), but I haven't heard anything about seizing it yet.
i love ardent.
there you go.
you've got one...
they are no different than any other big business, corporate medical establishment (i.e. omni, warren)... overall, no better but no worse... anyone who thinks differently is delusional or uninformed...
anecdotaly, i've heard they "take care of" their docs better than the other local players... but ultimately it is all a game, and money is the motivation...
at least that is what i heard...
it is beerthirty... i'm out for now...
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Originally posted by Jonette
Also Recyclemichael, I said your an idiot because you couldn't simply respond to my comment, but you had to be an a** also.
your: possessive; belonging to you.
you're: a contraction for "you are" as in "you are an idiot!"
This will help you for the next time you realize that someone is an idiot and you need to point it out to them.
I don't care much for OSU medical center. My mom had an aneurysm and they damn near killed her. They gave her way to many different medicines in 3 days and no water I.V. And she was pretty much unconcious. All the medicine mixed together and her system wasn't being flushed. So the medicine had a chemical reaction which caused her to have an allergic reation. And that made her have a stroke! She died for a couple of minutes because of it. Luckily they brought her back! I wouldn't send a sick rat there. Sorry.
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Originally posted by Jonette
I am sure you all know that I KNOW the Oklahoma Legislature are the REAL blame for all this OSU Medical Center drama. I AM NOT STUPID!!! But we would sure like Kathy Taylor to at least acknowledge that she has some idea what the hell is going on and that she has attended at least one meeting on the issue. Her apparent "don't give a ****" attitude does not bode well.
Ardent obviously is only a business and I am aware that they really don't care about patients, only the money they can get from them.
Also Recyclemichael, I said your an idiot because you couldn't simply respond to my comment, but you had to be an a** also.
It's all OKAY though. Maybe something will actually be done about this whole thing when the Mayor or someone really important does not get an ICU bed because there are not enough in this city.
Also, Thank You Waterboy. That's really all we're asking.
As far as all the chairs matching. Who cares, I've been to some of the fancier facilities in town and although their equipment is great, their bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired.
We will sit and watch what happens.
I hate to break it to you, but the mayor "or someone really important" would never be likely to go there in the first place, even if they had matching chairs and 400 ICU beds. Why not go to Hillcrest down the street, or St Francis. Better yet, why not turn part of the mayor's leer jet into a flying ICU medical facility for herself for " just in case factor".
This is a private business matter, why should the mayor step in? So she can run her mouth about a topic she probably knows little to nothing about?
I agree. I see far to much of Kathy Taylor. Please don't get her started on something important.
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Originally posted by Jonette
You know recyclemichael, I think your an idiot!!
I am not blaming Kathy Taylor, I just think it's really screwed up that she simply has not got a thing to say about something that is not only going on in HER city, but also in HER downtown area. SAY SOMETHING!!!!
Oh, I forgot, the name of the place is not BOK CENTER!!!!!!
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I agree 100%. Seems she is primary flash and dash and not much more. Only real thing we hear from her is yet another big project this and big project that. Hey Major get down in the dirt with the rest of us and lead this city. Please.
I know many will disagree here, and that is your right, but sorry that is just the impression she leaves with me. Oh yes, I do read the newspaper every day and watch the nightly local news. She is very nearly invisible on either of these two public forums.
Tulsa World.
Wednesday September 24, 2008
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Planning needed for northeast Oklahoma health care Planning needed for northeast Oklahoma health care
TOGETHER
Tom Adelson: Providing health care to needy Tulsans — and other residents of northeast Oklahoma — is the art of the possible.
By TOM ADELSON
9/24/2008
During the last four years, 45 cents of every dollar of patient revenue at Tulsa Regional Medical Center has been needed to cover the cost of uncompensated care for the indigent.
Given the burden it should come as no surprise that TRMC survives in an environment of turmoil. Since 1998, there have been four hospital owners. None could succeed without legislative bailout. Every year or two, a crisis looms, threatening both the Oklahoma State University Medical College and the continuation of services for the underserved.
There is a crisis today. Unable to reach agreement with Ardent Health Systems, the current owner of TRMC, OSU has tentatively reached agreement to move its residents to St. Francis Health System.
If OSU residents leave TRMC, it's unlikely this hospital can stay open.
OSU residents supply 85 percent of the care at the hospital. The care OSU physicians and residents provide helps not just TRMC. OSU helps all local hospitals absorb $50 million a year in uncompensated health care costs. In the absence of OSU, the uncompensated care burden will be transferred to the nearest hospitals, St. John Health System and Hillcrest Healthcare System. It's not clear these hospital systems
could sustain that.
If TRMC closes, it's not just the underserved who will experience serious disruptions. It's all of us.
It's the next stroke victim, the next heart attack, and it doesn't matter if the ambulance is transporting the finest privately insured person in the city — hospital capacity to deliver critical urgent care may be seriously compromised. Moreover, the quality of health-care services at St. John and Hillcrest would be jeopardized as the hospitals struggle to absorb $50 million in annual uncompensated care costs. They may not have enough beds to admit patients from referring physicians.
I believe that the Legislature has a responsibility to step in and see that this does not happen. Tulsa is the largest city in the country without a publicly supported teaching hospital.
Oklahoma City receives about $50 million a year to help cover the cost of uncompensated care. Tulsa receives virtually nothing. Those are the facts. Last month's dismissive editorial in the Oklahoman, criticizing Tulsa for "whining" about the disparity, should not dissuade Tulsa's demand for an indigent care subsidy — the centerpiece of any viable plan.
But before the Legislature can be expected to act, the major hospital systems — Ardent, St. John, and St.
Francis — together with both the University of Oklahoma and OSU medical schools must sit down in one room on the same day for a city-wide planning session. Enough bickering. Enough triangulation of legislative leaders. Enough manipulation.
Enough. Sit down and work together. It's hard to understand why the hospitals and the medical schools have failed to work together for the good of the city.
What can we expect from this meeting? A lot. Tulsa hospitals coordinate the delivery of care for the uninsured by supplying a medical home to thousands of underserved northeast Oklahomans. Residency programs locate where the hospitals wish, eliminating duplicate services.
Urgent care and trauma care are strengthened, as is access to outpatient specialty services.
Oklahoma's Medicaid program can provide needed funding and leverage $2 in federal money for every state dollar. The hospitals should contribute as well. Private philanthropy can be expected to step in.
The funds will support each participating hospital based on the amount of uncompensated care furnished relative to its total hospital receipts (or some other variation where resources follow the patients).
Providing health care to needy Tulsans — and other residents of northeast Oklahoma — is the art of the possible. The money is there, as is the framework of a plan; what is needed is cooperation among the health care providers in Tulsa and a public subsidy to help support the burden. For these providers, a plan to deal with the cost of uninsured care is not only good business, but in keeping with their charitable mission.
For the good of all of us, let's work together.
Thank You Okla. Sen. Tom Adelson
Well I am going to be mean here, but that was about worthless. DO something. I am sick of reading cute little editorials stating the same ol stuff we already know.
I know,everyone keeps reiterating the facts of the situation.
DO SOMETHING ALREADY!!!!
Let's see some ACTION!!
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Originally posted by Jonette
I know,everyone keeps reiterating the facts of the situation.
DO SOMETHING ALREADY!!!!
Let's see some ACTION!!
<dances>
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Originally posted by carltonplace
quote:
Originally posted by Jonette
Also Recyclemichael, I said your an idiot because you couldn't simply respond to my comment, but you had to be an a** also.
your: possessive; belonging to you.
you're: a contraction for "you are" as in "you are an idiot!"
This will help you for the next time you realize that someone is an idiot and you need to point it out to them.
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Originally posted by Jonette
I am sure you all know that I KNOW the Oklahoma Legislature are the REAL blame for all this OSU Medical Center drama. I AM NOT STUPID!!! But we would sure like Kathy Taylor to at least acknowledge that she has some idea what the hell is going on and that she has attended at least one meeting on the issue. Her apparent "don't give a ****" attitude does not bode well.
Ardent obviously is only a business and I am aware that they really don't care about patients, only the money they can get from them.
Also Recyclemichael, I said your an idiot because you couldn't simply respond to my comment, but you had to be an a** also.
It's all OKAY though. Maybe something will actually be done about this whole thing when the Mayor or someone really important does not get an ICU bed because there are not enough in this city.
Also, Thank You Waterboy. That's really all we're asking.
As far as all the chairs matching. Who cares, I've been to some of the fancier facilities in town and although their equipment is great, their bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired.
We will sit and watch what happens.
Jonette you are absolutely right about Spincyle. By the way, this is a matter that concerns the city because the City Council and the Mayor had to approve the agreement that created the OSU Tulsa hospital.
P.S. Spincycle is the Executive Director of a Public Trust and his wifey was on da Mare's payroll, FYI. Connecting those dots explains a lot of his B.S.
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Originally posted by Double A
[br=Jonette you are absolutely right about Spincyle. By the way, this is a matter that concerns the city because the City Council and the Mayor had to approve the agreement that created the OSU Tulsa hospital.
P.S. Spincycle is the Executive Director of a Public Trust and his wifey was on da Mare's payroll, FYI. Connecting those dots explains a lot of his B.S.
Yeah well who are YOU? Patton is not elusive or deceptive about who he is but what the eff is a Double A? Can we not stop the infantile behavior for just one matter that concerns us all?
Beating someone to a pulp every time they post anything is not the 'clash of ideas', it is something different altogether exploiting freedom for its own ends.
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
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Originally posted by Double A
[br=Jonette you are absolutely right about Spincyle. By the way, this is a matter that concerns the city because the City Council and the Mayor had to approve the agreement that created the OSU Tulsa hospital.
P.S. Spincycle is the Executive Director of a Public Trust and his wifey was on da Mare's payroll, FYI. Connecting those dots explains a lot of his B.S.
Yeah well who are YOU? Patton is not elusive or deceptive about who he is but what the eff is a Double A? Can we not stop the infantile behavior for just one matter that concerns us all?
Beating someone to a pulp every time they post anything is not the 'clash of ideas', it is something different altogether exploiting freedom for its own ends.
Don't mind Aaron, he found his version of democracy in A Clockwork Orange.
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Originally posted by Double A
P.S. Spincycle is the Executive Director of a Public Trust and his wifey was on da Mare's payroll, FYI. Connecting those dots explains a lot of his B.S.
DoubleA is just upset. He sees himself as a spokesman for the losers in life.
Look, for all I know you treated him like a total jerkwad so I will reserve judgement. Right now, you are acting a lot like whatsisgoofylookingface does toward me. For all I know AA has a good reason to dislike you. It just gets old, all this effed up shadowboxing. This is the pot calling the kettle barack, I know, but still . . .
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
....This is the pot calling the kettle barack, I know, but still . . .
Wow, racist much?
[:O]
You think that is racist?
Children, Children, Can't we all just get along!?
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I swear I clicked on a link to a hospital discussion...
I know, the children have all gone a stray.
Are you all aware that it is not only employees who are uninformed about the OSUMC situation? The residents don't even have a clue about what's going on.
I ran into a physician this evening and she said for all they know, OSU may have thrown EVERYONE under the bus. For all anyone knows, OSU may know exactly what is going to happen in the near future. It's sad that we are at their mercy and may be the last ones to know what's being discussed and planned.
HELLLOOOOO, we need jobs and patients need a place to get their care.
Oh dammit, I forgot, these corporates don't give a **** what happens to us.
I know I can't buy Christmas. I have put my financial life on hold. I'm in a holding pattern.
Jonette
You work there Jonette?
I know someone who does and she was told that OSUMC will close January 1 unless something is done.
Lots of jobs in the medical field. Southcrest, Hillcrest, St.Francis, St.Johns and tons of private practices.
Talk to one of your mail room types. They usually know before the masses.[;)]
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I am sick with worry. I am getting my resume together and hoping for the best.
What most people don't know is that there are NOT a lot of jobs in the medical field. You may notice in the Sunday Tulsa World there are a lot of positions posted for all the hospitals, but what they don't understand is that although the jobs are posted and NEED to be filled, the higher-ups won't approve the budget for any of them. This happens at all the hospitals. There is a position open, personnel says post it in the paper, then when all the apps are received personnel says, welllllll we don't really have the budget approved for that position. So it goes unfilled and the department works short-handed. I know several people who work in the field as I do and they have the same problems in their hospitals. It's the same with nurses. There is always talk of the "nursing shortage". Well, if they would just hire the ones ready to work, then there wouldn't be a shortage. There is a formula administrators use to decide patient to personnel ratio's. Bottom line-it's all about the money. The less personnel per patient, the more money the hospital makes.
The truth is, Administrators care more about money than people.
Hell,,,,,,, we knew that!!
Yes, I work there. I love it there, I've been there 6 years and I know several people in my department alone, that have been there 30 or more years. Severance packages? They have not told us anything. Will the hospital really close ? Again, we only know rumors.
I know we have 33 ICU beds that are full most of the time, We have a lot of long-term care patients. We have a VERY busy ER. I really don't think any minor emergency in town is going to do all the things for these patients that we do everyday.
I don't care how many people think they will not feel the difference if this hospital closes, they are kidding themselves. Do you have any idea how many drunks stay in our ER until they are sober enough to be released?
How many babies run fevers at home and come to our ER after their Primary Cares tell them they can see them in 3 weeks. Hmmmmmmmmmm fever for 3 weeks,,,,,,let the kid die...... How many people have no insurance and come in to our ER with REAL chest pain and are in our OR the next day having bypass surgery? DO you know how much that cost? I am not even going to try to think of any minor emergency that is going to be doing bypass surgery for free. I can imagine that most of those cases will just be diagnosed with pneumonia and sent home. What happens next. Well, they die. No problem,, they didn't have any money anyway.
I'm stopping for now.....
I'm sure some people are glad.
See ya in the overcrowded Er's all over town soon.....
Yeah well no offense (who, ME) but maybe it is time to let the patient go. If this is the best that socialized medicine can do - let a staff worry day after day if the place is going to be around . . . must be like working in some Soviet-era pit of washed-up 'humanity.' Thanks for the heads-up about the conditions there, J.
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
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Originally posted by Double A
[br=Jonette you are absolutely right about Spincyle. By the way, this is a matter that concerns the city because the City Council and the Mayor had to approve the agreement that created the OSU Tulsa hospital.
P.S. Spincycle is the Executive Director of a Public Trust and his wifey was on da Mare's payroll, FYI. Connecting those dots explains a lot of his B.S.
Yeah well who are YOU? Patton is not elusive or deceptive about who he is but what the eff is a Double A? Can we not stop the infantile behavior for just one matter that concerns us all?
Beating someone to a pulp every time they post anything is not the 'clash of ideas', it is something different altogether exploiting freedom for its own ends.
Sure guy, since you are so reliable about practicing what you preach, especially when there is a diverges of opinion that contradicts your own.
To answer your question, a Double A is one of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Nice try Dr. Gonzo.
Well, went to work tonight and NO NEW NEWS from the great Ardent gods.
The ER docs are managed by a company called Swallowtail. They do not have a schedule for January. They usually have schedules made out several months in advance. The docs said they had a meeting with Ardent today and Ardent asked them if they would go month to month after December. Their contracts usually go from January to December. Swallowtail says month to month is unacceptable. No one will agree on a shorter term contract either.
The docs say that as far as now, December 31st will be their last day. After that Ardent can bring is temps or locums as their called. It's not that difficult to do, but it is NOT cost effective. Something Ardent is trying to be right now.
Anyway, we have a department meeting tomorrow and I am not sure if there will be anything more than more smoke.
We will see.
Well, the newest news is that OU has been in the building several times this week. They have been assesing the building to see what it would take to upgrade the interior.
Their thinking is that they would either remodel the existing structure or build an entirely different building. Probably comparing the options to see if anything is feesable. OU standards are very high as you can see from their main operation.
Our building is acceptable on the exterior, although the interior has been maintained, there are some improvements that are needed.
Upgrades mostly.
We will see what conclusion they arrive at and hope for the best.
We still are being told by the ER Physicians that they will be leaving December 31st,2008.
We are still busy taking care of our patients and providing the indigent care that noone else will touch with a ten foot pole.
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Tim,
You said " maybe it is just time to let that patient die"
Well, you know we do open heart bypasses on people that are not "OLD". Last week we did one on a man who was 39 years old. How old are you?
You think you are protected from anything like this happening to you. It also has nothing to do with the matter of you having insurance or not. If you have a massive heart attack and the other hopitals are on divert,(this happens all the time) you WILL be brought to OSUMC. Then your life will be in our hands. We save people everyday and we get compliments from people who have very good experiences at our hospital. They are always surprised at how nice we are to our patients and how we treat everyone like a human, not based on their ability to pay.( Also people are always surprised when they learn all the procedures we do at OSUMC each and every day)If you come into our ER with chest pain, you are rushed straight back to see the doctors, we don't even know your name but we are on you with the quickness. Then as soon as we establish that you are in a true cardiac crisis, Cath Lab is notified and you are on their table upstairs within 30 minutes. Believe me, this won't happen at any other facility in Tulsa. We save people all the time with this protocol. Cardiac crisis knows no age limits. It does not know income levels and it does not know hospital divert status or hospital preference, nor does it care.
We really do hope that someone finds a way to keep OSUMC (or whatever it ends up being called) open. We really love working here and really don't want to work anywhere else.
That's why we are still here and not running out the door.
Never give up!!!
Here is the first of (maybe many) proposals to save OSUMC.
http://www.newsok.com/article/3314567
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Here is the first of (maybe many) proposals to save OSUMC.
http://www.newsok.com/article/3314567
And the response of the vast majority of legislators will be "Tulsa? Where the hell is Tulsa?"
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State Treasurer Scott Meacham said that according to experts, it would take $80 million to bring the hospital up to standards and keep it open, with an annual operating subsidy of $10 million to $15 million.
"I am a little bit unclear about exactly where all those savings would come from," he said. "I think it would cost much more, and I'm not sure what it would save. And if we could save that much money, why are we not doing it already?"
Tyra Palmer, a Hillcrest HealthCare System vice president, said city officials and hospital executives are trying to determine the best way to provide medical care for Tulsa's indigent population should the OSU Medical Center close.
Wow. So wrong on so many levels. I understand doubting the numbers, I want my treasurer to do that. But the line: "If we could save that much money, why are we not doing it already" is a fantastically horrible logic statement. If it isn't being done, it probably shouldn't be.
Meanwhile, the final paragraph translates to: "Tulsa area hospitals prepare for a massive beat down when OSU medical center closes."
Lets see one of the 2 public hospitals in OKC close down, and then count the HOURS until something is done.