It occured to me after seeing Obama's absysmal, stumbling, stuttering performance on the Rick Warren interview, followed by the Bill O'Reilly interview, to question whether the other ideologically-friendly Mainstream Media were feeding Obama the questions in advance.
He always seemed so smooth on the Oprah show, who just happens to be one of his endorsers, and in interviews with friendly commentators and fellow travellers.
This Epiphany occured when I watched Senator McCain being attacked by five different women commentraitors on the View today.
He CERTAINLY didn't have the questions in advance?
Well, is it POSSIBLE Obama is seeing the questions in advance?
Anyone ask him yet??
HmmmmmmmH??
Yes.
The media decides who is a better story for America and then makes it happen.
After the election, they are doing a series on why bears should be put in cages.
How about that bumbling interview by Mrs. Palin? Can anyone address a person during an interview by their given name more than she did with Charlie Gibson?
And for shame..not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is. What kind of a Republican does that make her?
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Originally posted by Hoss
How about that bumbling interview by Mrs. Palin? Can anyone address a person during an interview by their given name more than she did with Charlie Gibson?
And for shame..not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is. What kind of a Republican does that make her?
I thought she did a pretty good job considering Gibson did a Smash-Face interview on her.
He's another TV personality now on my Boycott List. It's growing:
Oprah
Pamela Lee Anderson (besides, what more is there possibly left to see?).
Matt Damon (Nice career, Matt while you had it).
Robert De Niro (old enough to know better)
Demi Moore
Ashton Kutcher
Ashley Judd
Keith Olbermann, MSNBC
Charles Gibson, ABC
Katie Couric, CBS
David Letterman
Gina Gershon
Tina Fey
Chevy Chase
Barbra Streisand
Wolf Blitzer, CNN
Barbara Walters, The View
Whoopi Goldberg, The View
Joy Behar, the View
Larry King CNN
Jack Cafferty CNN
Campbell Brown, CNN
George Stephanophallus, CNN
Paul Begala, CNN
Nora O'Donnell, NBC
Andrea Mitchell, NBC
All of CBS News
All of NBC News
All of ABC News
All of CNN News
All of MSNBC.
Besides, regarding the "Bush Doctrine", I don't know what it is either.
I thought the Bush Doctrine was starting unnecessary wars with no earthly idea how to find the Exit.............
Mission Accomplished?
Like Iraq.
4,000 soldiers killed; 20,000+ maimed. $600 Billion in treasure wasted. Military hollowed out, and exhausted. Enemies in Iran and Saudi Arabia strengthened.
Halliburton is happy, however. VERY Happy.
Oh, THAT Bush Doctrine??
Wish I could forget it, too.
[:O]
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by Hoss
How about that bumbling interview by Mrs. Palin? Can anyone address a person during an interview by their given name more than she did with Charlie Gibson?
And for shame..not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is. What kind of a Republican does that make her?
I didn't know what it is either.
I thought the Bush Doctrine was starting unnecessary wars with no earthly idea how to exit.
Mission Accomplished?
Like Iraq. 4,000 soldiers killed; 20,000+ maimed. $600 Billion in treasure wasted. Military hollowed out, and exhausted.
Halliburton is happy, however.
THAT Bush Doctrine??
Nope, it was the doctrine regarding 'If you harbor terrorists, we'll treat you like the terrorists'. Essentially anyway.
My point is, if the McCain camp is trying to get her up to speed so she can make her media appearances without scrutiny, this first test didn't do so well, now did it?
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by Hoss
How about that bumbling interview by Mrs. Palin? Can anyone address a person during an interview by their given name more than she did with Charlie Gibson?
And for shame..not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is. What kind of a Republican does that make her?
I didn't know what it is either.
I thought the Bush Doctrine was starting unnecessary wars with no earthly idea how to exit.
Mission Accomplished?
Like Iraq. 4,000 soldiers killed; 20,000+ maimed. $600 Billion in treasure wasted. Military hollowed out, and exhausted.
Halliburton is happy, however.
THAT Bush Doctrine??
Nope, it was the doctrine regarding 'If you harbor terrorists, we'll treat you like the terrorists'. Essentially anyway.
My point is, if the McCain camp is trying to get her up to speed so she can make her media appearances without scrutiny, this first test didn't do so well, now did it?
An incoming administration receives extensive briefings in all areas from the outgoing Administration, including especially National Security, with the key designees of the winning candidates being briefed.
There's ample time after Nov. 4 to get a President and VP up to speed on current policy, strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats.........
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by Hoss
How about that bumbling interview by Mrs. Palin? Can anyone address a person during an interview by their given name more than she did with Charlie Gibson?
And for shame..not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is. What kind of a Republican does that make her?
I thought she did a pretty good job considering Gibson did a Smash-Face interview on her.
He's another TV personality now on my Boycott List. It's growing.
Oprah.
Pamele Lee Anderson (besides what more is there left to see).
Matt Damon.
Keith Olbermann
All of CBS News
All of NBC News
All of ABC News
All of CNN News
All of MSNBC.
Besides, I didn't know what it is either.
I thought the Bush Doctrine was starting unnecessary wars with no earthly idea how to exit.
Mission Accomplished?
Like Iraq. 4,000 soldiers killed; 20,000+ maimed. $600 Billion in treasure wasted. Military hollowed out, and exhausted. Enemies in Iran and Saudi Arabia strengthened.
Halliburton is happy, however.
THAT Bush Doctrine??
Wish I could forget it, too.
Wow, edit much?
And it doesn't surprise me. Most republicans scream 'boycott' when some member of the MSM makes their party look bad. Why should they care, when they have a whole freakin' cable news station who wouldn't dare talk bad about them.
Kinda limiting when the only people who will lob Republicans the softball questions are Hannity and O'Reilly.
I'm curious to see what Questions Seano asks of Mrs. Palin next week when he interviews her. Somehow I can see a large white stitched orb in her future coming from ole Hannity.
[}:)]
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by Hoss
How about that bumbling interview by Mrs. Palin? Can anyone address a person during an interview by their given name more than she did with Charlie Gibson?
And for shame..not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is. What kind of a Republican does that make her?
I thought she did a pretty good job considering Gibson did a Smash-Face interview on her.
He's another TV personality now on my Boycott List. It's growing.
Oprah.
Pamele Lee Anderson (besides what more is there left to see).
Matt Damon.
Keith Olbermann
All of CBS News
All of NBC News
All of ABC News
All of CNN News
All of MSNBC.
Besides, I didn't know what it is either.
I thought the Bush Doctrine was starting unnecessary wars with no earthly idea how to exit.
Mission Accomplished?
Like Iraq. 4,000 soldiers killed; 20,000+ maimed. $600 Billion in treasure wasted. Military hollowed out, and exhausted. Enemies in Iran and Saudi Arabia strengthened.
Halliburton is happy, however.
THAT Bush Doctrine??
Wish I could forget it, too.
until you know what the Bush Doctrine is do you think it is valid that you comment on it. Mrs Palin as VP now really really scares me. What the hell was McCain thinking, or was he thinking. Sarah learning OTJ is not what I find endearing about her.
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by Hoss
How about that bumbling interview by Mrs. Palin? Can anyone address a person during an interview by their given name more than she did with Charlie Gibson?
And for shame..not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is. What kind of a Republican does that make her?
I thought she did a pretty good job considering Gibson did a Smash-Face interview on her.
He's another TV personality now on my Boycott List. It's growing.
Oprah.
Pamele Lee Anderson (besides what more is there left to see).
Matt Damon.
Keith Olbermann
All of CBS News
All of NBC News
All of ABC News
All of CNN News
All of MSNBC.
Besides, I didn't know what it is either.
I thought the Bush Doctrine was starting unnecessary wars with no earthly idea how to exit.
Mission Accomplished?
Like Iraq. 4,000 soldiers killed; 20,000+ maimed. $600 Billion in treasure wasted. Military hollowed out, and exhausted. Enemies in Iran and Saudi Arabia strengthened.
Halliburton is happy, however.
THAT Bush Doctrine??
Wish I could forget it, too.
Wow, edit much?
And it doesn't surprise me. Most republicans scream 'boycott' when some member of the MSM makes their party look bad. Why should they care, when they have a whole freakin' cable news station who wouldn't dare talk bad about them.
Kinda limiting when the only people who will lob Republicans the softball questions are Hannity and O'Reilly.
I'm curious to see what Questions Seano asks of Mrs. Palin next week when he interviews her. Somehow I can see a large white stitched orb in her future coming from ole Hannity.
[}:)]
The palpable, left-wing bias in the Main Stream Media is what created the MARKET for Fox News.
Why do you think that Fox News is now the leading News Network??
People were craving "Fair and Balanced" for decades.
Now they have at least one national news outlet they can trust.
Fox News is now #1.
and something else I just thought about, Obama has real answers, all Palin has is gobbeldy gook nonsense nonanswers. I don't know who is prepping her but they are doing a frigging terrible job. Beyond the concept that Palin has no earthly idea what she is being asked to comment on.
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by Hoss
How about that bumbling interview by Mrs. Palin? Can anyone address a person during an interview by their given name more than she did with Charlie Gibson?
And for shame..not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is. What kind of a Republican does that make her?
I didn't know what it is either.
I thought the Bush Doctrine was starting unnecessary wars with no earthly idea how to exit.
Mission Accomplished?
Like Iraq. 4,000 soldiers killed; 20,000+ maimed. $600 Billion in treasure wasted. Military hollowed out, and exhausted.
Halliburton is happy, however.
THAT Bush Doctrine??
Nope, it was the doctrine regarding 'If you harbor terrorists, we'll treat you like the terrorists'. Essentially anyway.
My point is, if the McCain camp is trying to get her up to speed so she can make her media appearances without scrutiny, this first test didn't do so well, now did it?
Yeah, but did you see her ear rings?
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Originally posted by joiei
and something else I just thought about, Obama has real answers, all Palin has is gobbeldy gook nonsense nonanswers. I don't know who is prepping her but they are doing a frigging terrible job. Beyond the concept that Palin has no earthly idea what she is being asked to comment on.
You don't think a pre-disposed political bias makes Obama more palpable with you?
Why do we keep comparing a Presidential candidate to a VP candidate anyhow? Last I checked it's Obama/Biden, McCain/Palin. McCain's age is a straw man argument.
I don't hear a whole lot of anything innovative coming out of the man who has been preaching change. I hear an opportunistic creation of the Democrat Party when I hear Obama. He's got a great back-story, but not much else inspires me about the man who has been running for President for 20 years.
He's got a great voice and he's awesome when he's on script. He sounds like a babbling idiot to me when he has to wing it. What it tells me is he is so overly cautious and afraid of making mistakes, or that he doesn't have any real convictions and that makes it harder for him to speak off the cuff.
That's my opinion not hard fact. Just like your assertions.
I'm bent more toward the Libertarian spectrum, so a lot of Obama's solutions for larger gov't aren't going to strike a chord with me. He's promised to cut taxes, yet I've heard no solution from him about balancing the budget nor cutting spending. All I keep hearing about are expansive government programs and promoting tax cuts to people who aren't paying taxes now. He wanted another tax rebate this fall??? That's trying to buy votes with MY tax money.
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by joiei
and something else I just thought about, Obama has real answers, all Palin has is gobbeldy gook nonsense nonanswers. I don't know who is prepping her but they are doing a frigging terrible job. Beyond the concept that Palin has no earthly idea what she is being asked to comment on.
You don't think a pre-disposed political bias makes Obama more palpable with you?
Why do we keep comparing a Presidential candidate to a VP candidate anyhow? Last I checked it's Obama/Biden, McCain/Palin. McCain's age is a straw man argument.
I don't hear a whole lot of anything innovative coming out of the man who has been preaching change. I hear an opportunistic creation of the Democrat Party when I hear Obama. He's got a great back-story, but not much else inspires me about the man who has been running for President for 20 years.
He's got a great voice and he's awesome when he's on script. He sounds like a babbling idiot to me when he has to wing it. What it tells me is he is so overly cautious and afraid of making mistakes, or that he doesn't have any real convictions and that makes it harder for him to speak off the cuff.
That's my opinion not hard fact. Just like your assertions.
I'm bent more toward the Libertarian spectrum, so a lot of Obama's solutions for larger gov't aren't going to strike a chord with me. He's promised to cut taxes, yet I've heard no solution from him about balancing the budget nor cutting spending. All I keep hearing about are expansive government programs and promoting tax cuts to people who aren't paying taxes now. He wanted another tax rebate this fall??? That's trying to buy votes with MY tax money.
It may be a straw man argument to some, but it's valid, given not only his age, but his medical history. Say what you want about privacy, but when I have to rely on a 44 year old 'hockey mom' as my potential C in C if something were to happen to McCain, I think not.
The interview just solidified my opinion of her. You all talk about an empty suit about Obama.
Palin is an empty pant-suit. A gimmick to energize the base and get the religious right to latch on.
God help us if they win and McCain passes while in office. We'll be in a hell of mess (worse than the one we're already in).
Conan: You don't think a pre-disposed political bias makes Obama more palpable with you?
Good god, pot to kettle, come in kettle.... you've used an Obama with mickey mouse ears avatar, never mind the one that showed Hillary Clinton is a communist... you don't remember your "Re-defeat Communism" avatar with a pic of Hillary....?
You know, I haven't even seen FOTD with an avatar that shows McCain as a facist....
Conan: He sounds like a babbling idiot to me when he has to wing it.
Really? I wonder how you'd sound if you knew every single word you used was going to be carefully scrutinized by the MSM..... but I forgot, the media's liberal.... yeah, they sure treated Howard Dean really nicely... oh, but the entire media is in the tank for Obama... yeah, right....
All you need is an excuse to hate Obama..... you don't like his views, fine... but you spare no effort on trying to tar and feather him....
And McCain is making this campaign about "judgement" and putting "America First" --- well, his choice of VP has demonstrated poor judgement and a reason to see his "America First" as nothing but empty words that come from an empty suit who will use Palin as a political ploy for a desperate campaign.... it's going to obvious to anyone but the most jaded of conservatives that he's put politics above his country in his choice of Palin.
Eventually, the country is going to find that out..... but the conservative media will cry like a baby when the truth comes out and blame the so-called "liberal" media...
Anyone who thinks Sarah Palin ought to be President is an idiot.
That's it. The economy may suck, the health crisis and social security problematic. But this governor is the worst veep candidate ever. She makes Quayle look scholarly. She makes Agnew look like he was honest.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
-- Henry Louis Mencken
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Originally posted by Conan71
I'm bent more toward the Libertarian spectrum, so a lot of Obama's solutions for larger gov't aren't going to strike a chord with me. He's promised to cut taxes, yet I've heard no solution from him about balancing the budget nor cutting spending. All I keep hearing about are expansive government programs and promoting tax cuts to people who aren't paying taxes now. He wanted another tax rebate this fall??? That's trying to buy votes with MY tax money.
Mr. McCain, I'd like to introduce you to Google.
From ontheissues.org: (//%22http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Budget_+_Economy.htm%22)
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BQ: Would it be a priority of your administration to balance the federal budget every year?
A: Over the last seven years, what we've seen is an economy that's out of balance because of the policies of George Bush and the Republicans in Congress. Not only do we have fiscal problems, but we've got growing inequality. People are working harder for less and they're seeing costs go up. So what I want to do is get the long-term fundamentals right. That means that we are investing in education & infrastructure, structuring fair trade deals, and also ending the war in Iraq. That is money that can be applied at home for critical issues.
Q: So a priority to balance the federal budget, or not?
A: We are not going to be able to dig ourselves out of that hole in 1 or 2 years. But if we can get on a path of sustained growth, end the war in Iraq, end some of the special interest loopholes and earmarks that have been clogging up the system, then I think we can return to a path of a balanced budget.
Source: 2007 Des Moines Register Democratic debate Dec 13, 2007
Granted this is 9 months old, but, he was running for president back then, too, and I assume this still holds.
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Originally posted by Hoss
How about that bumbling interview by Mrs. Palin? Can anyone address a person during an interview by their given name more than she did with Charlie Gibson?
I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one who found her constant use of "Charlie" annoying. Every sentence ended with
Charlie. "Well, Charlie,...blah, blah, blah, Charlie...In what respect, Charlie?I recall from a criminal justice class that using first names is a technique that cops use in order to maintain the upper hand in an interview of a witness. Repeatedly using someones first name can create an air of superiority.
Before anyone jumps on me as sexist, I would in no way imply that Ms. Palin use Charlie Gibson's last name. I just thought her constant use of his first name was annoying and a bit odd.
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Originally posted by akupetsky
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Originally posted by Hoss
How about that bumbling interview by Mrs. Palin? Can anyone address a person during an interview by their given name more than she did with Charlie Gibson?
I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one who found her constant use of "Charlie" annoying. Every sentence ended with Charlie. "Well, Charlie,...blah, blah, blah, Charlie...In what respect, Charlie?
I recall from a criminal justice class that using first names is a technique that cops use in order to maintain the upper hand in an interview of a witness. Repeatedly using someones first name can create an air of superiority.
Before anyone jumps on me as sexist, I would in no way imply that Ms. Palin use Charlie Gibson's last name. I just thought her constant use of his first name was annoying and a bit odd.
That wasn't what I was taught, although your explanation may be more to the mark. I was always under the impression that using someone's first name alot during conversation, especially if you didn't know them real well, was meant as conversational 'filler', if you felt like what you were saying wasn't substantive. She blinked a lot as well during the tougher parts of the interview. I have a law enforcement officer I know pretty well and I've been told that someone that blinks an inordinate amount is usually deviating from 'truthiness'. [8D]
She did great, I thought. She explained her positions very clearly (cheerfully even) and cleared up several things that people have been trying to pin on her. She definitely treated Charlie with greater respect than he treated her. The Bush Doctrine question was a lame attempt to trip her up and she knew it the second he asked. The fact is, there is no document sitting somewhere titled the "Bush Doctrine". It is a title the media has ascribed to various policies that Bush has used to justify some of his decisions. The one Charlie used is not even considered the current one. So, sure, she knows about the preemptive war policy, but didn't realize (like everybody watching) that's what Charlie meant by the Bush Doctrine. Her response asking him to clarify was exactly right.
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Originally posted by joiei
and something else I just thought about, Obama has real answers, all Palin has is gobbeldy gook nonsense nonanswers. I don't know who is prepping her but they are doing a frigging terrible job. Beyond the concept that Palin has no earthly idea what she is being asked to comment on.
Maybe he has the real answers because he has seen the real QUESTIONS in advance of the interview?
It's fairly obvious that in unscripted interviews with Rev. Rick Warren, and with Bill O'Reilly, that when Obama hasn't seen the questions in advance, that he badly stutters and stammers with his answers.
Anyone else notice?
Reason: His left-wing supporters in the MSM are providing him with the questions in advance.
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Originally posted by jiminy
She did great, I thought. She explained her positions very clearly (cheerfully even) and cleared up several things that people have been trying to pin on her. She definitely treated Charlie with greater respect than he treated her. The Bush Doctrine question was a lame attempt to trip her up and she knew it the second he asked. The fact is, there is no document sitting somewhere titled the "Bush Doctrine". It is a title the media has ascribed to various policies that Bush has used to justify some of his decisions. The one Charlie used is not even considered the current one. So, sure, she knows about the preemptive war policy, but didn't realize (like everybody watching) that's what Charlie meant by the Bush Doctrine. Her response asking him to clarify was exactly right.
Make sure you take your Dramamine after that...
[:O]
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by jiminy
She did great, I thought. She explained her positions very clearly (cheerfully even) and cleared up several things that people have been trying to pin on her. She definitely treated Charlie with greater respect than he treated her. The Bush Doctrine question was a lame attempt to trip her up and she knew it the second he asked. The fact is, there is no document sitting somewhere titled the "Bush Doctrine". It is a title the media has ascribed to various policies that Bush has used to justify some of his decisions. The one Charlie used is not even considered the current one. So, sure, she knows about the preemptive war policy, but didn't realize (like everybody watching) that's what Charlie meant by the Bush Doctrine. Her response asking him to clarify was exactly right.
Make sure you take your Dramamine after that...
[:O]
I must have watched some editted reruns of that interview! Didn't see it that way. Jiminy, doctrines are rarely addressed formally as such. The Monroe Doctrine was a name applied to a policy written by President Monroe, and not by his detractors but by historians, editors, educators etc.
If she followed national politics it would have been an easy question.My take is that Gibson was hardly an aggressive interviewer. Certainly no more than other celebrities that have been interviewed by him.
The use of Gibson's first name by Palin includes all that was mentioned above. The use of first names in a sales presentation is a salesmans attempt to cross over to the customers side of the desk and establish rapport. A levelling techique that is designed to allay any tension. If used too early in the presentation, as she did, it is perceived as disrespectful.
Using it in the opposite manner where you use formality such as Mr, Mrs, or Your Honor, helps to establish a tone of respect and is used if your prospect is craving of that respect. The idea is to allow the prospect to feel so powerful as to be gracious to his lesser when you ask a favor of him.
It can also be used to establish dominance if the person you're talking to is bound by rules of professionalism in addressing you. Gibson had to call her "Governor" or appear disrespectful but Palin could establish strength of position by calling him by a slang of his given name. Mr. Gibson became, Charles which became Charlie. She skipped right to Charlie but her motivations were debatable. Her handlers would have used this ploy for sure but it could just be her small town upbringing.
Its generally acceptable, if you are not being manipulative, to ask the other party permission to use such informality. It then sets the tone of the discussion. Most politicians use these tecniques subconsciously in different ways depending on their motives. McCain does it too by using "my friend(s)". Obama does too. Anyone trying to persuade or dominate the other party uses the technique.
Only an idiot would come up with Jiminy as an identity. How's Goofy?
You're headed for purgatory....and take your cartoon clone Bear too.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
-- Henry Louis Mencken
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by joiei
and something else I just thought about, Obama has real answers, all Palin has is gobbeldy gook nonsense nonanswers. I don't know who is prepping her but they are doing a frigging terrible job. Beyond the concept that Palin has no earthly idea what she is being asked to comment on.
Maybe he has the real answers because he has seen the real QUESTIONS in advance of the interview?
It's fairly obvious that in unscripted interviews with Rev. Rick Warren, and with Bill O'Reilly, that when Obama hasn't seen the questions in advance, that he badly stutters and stammers with his answers.
Anyone else notice?
Reason: His left-wing supporters in the MSM are providing him with the questions in advance.
Yeah bear..... and don't forget, 9-11 was an inside job. [:o)]
Spin, spin... lie, lie... you just can't help it, can you FB?
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Originally posted by USRufnex
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by joiei
and something else I just thought about, Obama has real answers, all Palin has is gobbeldy gook nonsense nonanswers. I don't know who is prepping her but they are doing a frigging terrible job. Beyond the concept that Palin has no earthly idea what she is being asked to comment on.
Maybe he has the real answers because he has seen the real QUESTIONS in advance of the interview?
It's fairly obvious that in unscripted interviews with Rev. Rick Warren, and with Bill O'Reilly, that when Obama hasn't seen the questions in advance, that he badly stutters and stammers with his answers.
Anyone else notice?
Reason: His left-wing supporters in the MSM are providing him with the questions in advance.
Yeah bear..... and don't forget, 9-11 was an inside job. [:o)]
Spin, spin... lie, lie... you just can't help it, can you FB?
It's obvious that the MSM is feeding Obama the questions in advance.
A blind man can see it.
Why did Obama wait until AFTER his coronation at the Democratic Convention to submit to an actual potentially hostile interview, namely Bill O'Reilly?
He knows he's an Empty Suit that only knows how to read a teleprompter, and answer pre-digested questions.
Do you have one tiny little bit of proof...???
I've watched Obama in debates for years..... his answers have always been too careful and too cautious and too academic...
You simply see all the conspiracies you want to see.... here's another one for ya I'm sure you'll like.... [:o)]
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by USRufnex
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by joiei
and something else I just thought about, Obama has real answers, all Palin has is gobbeldy gook nonsense nonanswers. I don't know who is prepping her but they are doing a frigging terrible job. Beyond the concept that Palin has no earthly idea what she is being asked to comment on.
Maybe he has the real answers because he has seen the real QUESTIONS in advance of the interview?
It's fairly obvious that in unscripted interviews with Rev. Rick Warren, and with Bill O'Reilly, that when Obama hasn't seen the questions in advance, that he badly stutters and stammers with his answers.
Anyone else notice?
Reason: His left-wing supporters in the MSM are providing him with the questions in advance.
Yeah bear..... and don't forget, 9-11 was an inside job. [:o)]
Spin, spin... lie, lie... you just can't help it, can you FB?
It's obvious that the MSM is feeding Obama the questions in advance.
A blind man can see it.
Why did Obama wait until AFTER his coronation at the Democratic Convention to submit to an actual potentially hostile interview, namely Bill O'Reilly?
He knows he's an Empty Suit that only knows how to read a teleprompter, and answer pre-digested questions.
And I bet you have anti-black-helicopter guns on your property as well.
Maybe it was because he wanted to wait until he was actually given the nomination by his party?
Oh, the scandal!
[:O]
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Originally posted by waterboy
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Originally posted by jiminy
She did great, I thought. She explained her positions very clearly (cheerfully even) and cleared up several things that people have been trying to pin on her. She definitely treated Charlie with greater respect than he treated her. The Bush Doctrine question was a lame attempt to trip her up and she knew it the second he asked. The fact is, there is no document sitting somewhere titled the "Bush Doctrine". It is a title the media has ascribed to various policies that Bush has used to justify some of his decisions. The one Charlie used is not even considered the current one. So, sure, she knows about the preemptive war policy, but didn't realize (like everybody watching) that's what Charlie meant by the Bush Doctrine. Her response asking him to clarify was exactly right.
I must have watched some editted reruns of that interview! Didn't see it that way. Jiminy, doctrines are rarely addressed formally as such. The Monroe Doctrine was a name applied to a policy written by President Monroe, and not by his detractors but by historians, editors, educators etc. If she followed national politics it would have been an easy question.
My take is that Gibson was hardly an aggressive interviewer. Certainly no more than other celebrities that have been interviewed by him.
The use of Gibson's first name by Palin includes all that was mentioned above. The use of first names in a sales presentation is a salesmans attempt to cross over to the customers side of the desk and establish rapport. A levelling techique that is designed to allay any tension. If used too early in the presentation, as she did, it is perceived as disrespectful.
Using it in the opposite manner where you use formality such as Mr, Mrs, or Your Honor, helps to establish a tone of respect and is used if your prospect is craving of that respect. The idea is to allow the prospect to feel so powerful as to be gracious to his lesser when you ask a favor of him.
It can also be used to establish dominance if the person you're talking to is bound by rules of professionalism in addressing you. Gibson had to call her "Governor" or appear disrespectful but Palin could establish strength of position by calling him by a slang of his given name. Mr. Gibson became, Charles which became Charlie. She skipped right to Charlie but her motivations were debatable. Her handlers would have used this ploy for sure but it could just be her small town upbringing.
Its generally acceptable, if you are not being manipulative, to ask the other party permission to use such informality. It then sets the tone of the discussion. Most politicians use these tecniques subconsciously in different ways depending on their motives. McCain does it too by using "my friend(s)". Obama does too. Anyone trying to persuade or dominate the other party uses the technique.
I guess people see what they want to see... I didn't see any disrepect at all in her use of his first name. I found it endearing. Keep in mind they spent a fair amount of time together off the air as she showed him around. Some libs seem to think this should have been more like a debate, not an interview.
And he was plenty aggressive. Many thought he was chosen because he would play softball, but I didn't see that at all. If he were to go after Obama in the same fashion, it might go something like this:
Charlie: Do you support sex education for kindergartners?
Obama: I think age-appropriate sex education could be a good thing for children of any age in school. What "age-appropriate" means would be above my pay-grade; that's for the educators to decide.
Charlie: I'm sorry that's a lot of words. Yes or no, do you support comprehensive sex education for kindergartners?
Obama: Well, no, but listen...
Charlie (interrupting): Then why did you vote for it?
Obama: (sputter) well, ummm ... I'm going to lower taxes! After I raise them, though, but don't tell anybody.
Hey Jiminy ! How's Goofy and the rest of your gang?
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Jiminy, just how much of your life is governed by yes or no answers? Thats a significant trait of conservatives. Life is black and white, good and evil for them. They frame the questions to reflect what they already believe. Unfortunately life just doesn't mirror that philosophy. We are faced with decisions that require sorting out and weighing the options.
For instance, change your questioning by Charlie. "If you believe that kindergarten children should be given basic understandings of what can be touched by others and what is off limits to others in order to protect them against child molestors, vote yes. If you believe that they shouldn't be made aware so that child predators can molest them without fear, vote no.
Lots of words, but worth the effort.
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Originally posted by waterboy
Jiminy, just how much of your life is governed by yes or no answers? Thats a significant trait of conservatives. Life is black and white, good and evil for them. They frame the questions to reflect what they already believe. Unfortunately life just doesn't mirror that philosophy. We are faced with decisions that require sorting out and weighing the options.
For instance, change your questioning by Charlie. "If you believe that kindergarten children should be given basic understandings of what can be touched by others and what is off limits to others in order to protect them against child molestors, vote yes. If you believe that they shouldn't be made aware so that child predators can molest them without fear, vote no.
Lots of words, but worth the effort.
Waterboy, that's exactly my point. Gibson might take that approach with Obama, but he sure didn't with Sarah. In fact, several times I don't think he really listened to her or comprehended her response.
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Originally posted by jiminy
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Originally posted by waterboy
Jiminy, just how much of your life is governed by yes or no answers? Thats a significant trait of conservatives. Life is black and white, good and evil for them. They frame the questions to reflect what they already believe. Unfortunately life just doesn't mirror that philosophy. We are faced with decisions that require sorting out and weighing the options.
For instance, change your questioning by Charlie. "If you believe that kindergarten children should be given basic understandings of what can be touched by others and what is off limits to others in order to protect them against child molestors, vote yes. If you believe that they shouldn't be made aware so that child predators can molest them without fear, vote no.
Lots of words, but worth the effort.
Waterboy, that's exactly my point. Gibson might take that approach with Obama, but he sure didn't with Sarah. In fact, several times I don't think he really listened to her or comprehended her response.
Jiminy:
Keep up the good work!
You are really scoring some points!
+5
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by jiminy
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Originally posted by waterboy
Jiminy, just how much of your life is governed by yes or no answers? Thats a significant trait of conservatives. Life is black and white, good and evil for them. They frame the questions to reflect what they already believe. Unfortunately life just doesn't mirror that philosophy. We are faced with decisions that require sorting out and weighing the options.
For instance, change your questioning by Charlie. "If you believe that kindergarten children should be given basic understandings of what can be touched by others and what is off limits to others in order to protect them against child molestors, vote yes. If you believe that they shouldn't be made aware so that child predators can molest them without fear, vote no.
Lots of words, but worth the effort.
Waterboy, that's exactly my point. Gibson might take that approach with Obama, but he sure didn't with Sarah. In fact, several times I don't think he really listened to her or comprehended her response.
Jiminy:
Keep up the good work!
You are really scoring some points!
+5
Oh, shut up arayan Bear. I was going to let it go but noooo, you have to stick your wet nose into it.
Jiminy, I see your point. However, you work from the premise that Charlie was tough on her. I don't buy that. Gibson has been on weekday am psuedo news for so long, he isn't tough on anyone. We each saw it through our own prizm.
I believe Gibson would not treat Obama any differently as reporters are ratings pigs and there's no real advantage to taking risks like that in interviews unless its on a Sunday am political show. If he treats him deferentially he loses.
The killer pieces are the ones like Rick Sanchez does on CNN where a reporters' real bias comes into play. They can use editting, sound bites and camera angles to say things that aren't even close to reality. A good interviewee can skewer you live, but a good editor makes sure it never is seen.
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Originally posted by waterboy
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by jiminy
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Originally posted by waterboy
Jiminy, just how much of your life is governed by yes or no answers? Thats a significant trait of conservatives. Life is black and white, good and evil for them. They frame the questions to reflect what they already believe. Unfortunately life just doesn't mirror that philosophy. We are faced with decisions that require sorting out and weighing the options.
For instance, change your questioning by Charlie. "If you believe that kindergarten children should be given basic understandings of what can be touched by others and what is off limits to others in order to protect them against child molestors, vote yes. If you believe that they shouldn't be made aware so that child predators can molest them without fear, vote no.
Lots of words, but worth the effort.
Waterboy, that's exactly my point. Gibson might take that approach with Obama, but he sure didn't with Sarah. In fact, several times I don't think he really listened to her or comprehended her response.
Jiminy:
Keep up the good work!
You are really scoring some points!
+5
Oh, shut up arayan Bear. I was going to let it go but noooo, you have to stick your wet nose into it.
Jiminy, I see your point. However, you work from the premise that Charlie was tough on her. I don't buy that. Gibson has been on weekday am psuedo news for so long, he isn't tough on anyone. We each saw it through our own prizm.
I believe Gibson would not treat Obama any differently as reporters are ratings pigs and there's no real advantage to taking risks like that in interviews unless its on a Sunday am political show. If he treats him deferentially he loses.
The killer pieces are the ones like Rick Sanchez does on CNN where a reporters' real bias comes into play. They can use editting, sound bites and camera angles to say things that aren't even close to reality. A good interviewee can skewer you live, but a good editor makes sure it never is seen.
Do you mean
ARYAN, Dumbkopf?
Yes.
ARYAN BEAR!
Whose the dummmy? Took you a week to catch the mispelling. Touch a nerve did I?
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Yes.
ARYAN BEAR!
Whose the dummmy? Took you a week to catch the mispelling. Touch a nerve did I?
As a patient instructor to the foolish, I was waiting on the Student to first discover his own mistake.
However, the Master's patience is not endless...
Hence, the spelling advisory...Cricket.
The only students in your class would indeed be fools.
Obama chewing out a typical white person who apparently asked a question off script:
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/21/obama-yells-at-an-elderly-woman-questioning-him-about-national-security.php
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Originally posted by guido911
Obama chewing out a typical white person who apparently asked a question off script:
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/21/obama-yells-at-an-elderly-woman-questioning-him-about-national-security.php
How is that any worse than McCain calling someone questioning his age as a point of the campaign 'a little jerk'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2zx3-0zOPs
Let it swing both ways here now...
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by guido911
Obama chewing out a typical white person who apparently asked a question off script:
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/21/obama-yells-at-an-elderly-woman-questioning-him-about-national-security.php
How is that any worse than McCain calling someone questioning his age as a point of the campaign 'a little jerk'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2zx3-0zOPs
Let it swing both ways here now...
On today's private jet flights from Washington D.C., the two presidential candidates are preparing for tonite's debate:
McCain is reviewing briefing papers on foreign policy from his key policy advisors.
Obama is rehearsing answers to tonite's questions previously provided by PBS staff to his campaign.
Anyone prove otherwise?
Just watch.....
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by guido911
Obama chewing out a typical white person who apparently asked a question off script:
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/21/obama-yells-at-an-elderly-woman-questioning-him-about-national-security.php
How is that any worse than McCain calling someone questioning his age as a point of the campaign 'a little jerk'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2zx3-0zOPs
Let it swing both ways here now...
On today's private jet flights from Washington D.C., the two presidential candidates are preparing for tonite's debate:
McCain is reviewing briefing papers on foreign policy from his key policy advisors.
Obama is rehearsing answers to tonite's questions previously provided by PBS staff to his campaign.
Anyone prove otherwise?
Just watch.....
Accuser has burden of proof.
And I'm betting foreign policy as a subject gets tabled tonight in favor of the weeks events.
But then again, since McCain is obviously not ready to talk about the economy, he may throw a hissy fit until he gets his way.
You know about that temperament.
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Hoss, bet you a burger and a Marshall Wheat that Obama gets pwn3d by McCain tonight.
This will, no doubt, be stressful to Obama. Probably wouldn't hurt to smoke a doobie beforehand. Wonder if they have a smoke detector in the can of ObamaForce 1?
[8D]
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Hoss, bet you a burger and a Marshall Wheat that Obama gets pwn3d by McCain tonight.
Based on whose review? You know it's gonna tip multiple ways.
I'll hold my acceptance/denial of the bet until details are specified.
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Based purely on my un-biased criteria, of course! [}:)]
There's bound to be some polls after the debate where people can say who pwn3d whom. Gallup? Zogby? AP?
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Based purely on my un-biased criteria, of course! [}:)]
There's bound to be some polls after the debate where people can say who pwn3d whom. Gallup? Zogby? AP?
Where was the pwn3age?
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Even Dick Morris had to say to Sean Hannity that Obama won! I thought Sean's head would explode.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that; it was closer to a tie, but I think both candidates got in appropriate zingers on each other.