Very good show. Sounded great, nice mix of old and new songs. The band looked to be having a good time, and except for the 2 drunk obnoxious blonds sitting 2 seats down from my wife and I the audience was cool as well.
My one gripe:
Did we not pay for air conditioning in the building? It was miserably hot in there.
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Originally posted by wavoka
Very good show. Sounded great, nice mix of old and new songs. The band looked to be having a good time, and except for the 2 drunk obnoxious blonds sitting 2 seats down from my wife and I the audience was cool as well.
My one gripe:
Did we not pay for air conditioning in the building? It was miserably hot in there.
I read in another post where they complained about that before the show started, but it alleviated once it got started.
If you were sitting on the floor, that happens at ALL venues. You get a bunch of people in one space with 98.6 being the normal temperature of the human body. Then do the math. Even the lower bowl was probably pretty warm if it was crowded.
They never got the AC fixed. We were sitting in the mid section and it was hot hot hot. The couple in front of us ended up leaving because they were so miserable.
I was never so happy to get outside of a building in my life. My hair was wet and my shirt was soaked like I had been working outside. It was truly miserable.
Helped with beer sales though.
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Originally posted by wavoka
They never got the AC fixed. We were sitting in the mid section and it was hot hot hot. The couple in front of us ended up leaving because they were so miserable.
I was never so happy to get outside of a building in my life. My hair was wet and my shirt was soaked like I had been working outside. It was truly miserable.
Helped with beer sales though.
They sold drugs!?
Were there any freaks lighting up? Doubtful.[:(]
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by wavoka
Very good show. Sounded great, nice mix of old and new songs. The band looked to be having a good time, and except for the 2 drunk obnoxious blonds sitting 2 seats down from my wife and I the audience was cool as well.
My one gripe:
Did we not pay for air conditioning in the building? It was miserably hot in there.
I read in another post where they complained about that before the show started, but it alleviated once it got started.
If you were sitting on the floor, that happens at ALL venues. You get a bunch of people in one space with 98.6 being the normal temperature of the human body. Then do the math. Even the lower bowl was probably pretty warm if it was crowded.
Got to get that air movement in times like that. We have the same problem with church sanctuaries. The capacity to cool is there but the air has got to be moved around. Otherwise you get pockets of warmer air like on the crowd level.
I thought it cooled down nicely...It's a minor glitch that will be worked out for the next show....It's simple....
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Originally posted by Breadburner
I thought it cooled down nicely...It's a minor glitch that will be worked out for the next show....It's simple....
Unless the same mistakes were made on the BOKC HVAC system as were made at Expo Square [B)] Same designers.
The temperature didn't bother me... us divas are chilly when it's 75 degrees. But the air quality was terrible. Like concrete dust lingering in the air or something. My lungs and sinuses tightened up about three songs into the first act. Going out onto the concourse during intermission helped, but breathing was a challenge during second act, too. And I don't have asthma or other chronic breathing issues. Did anyone else notice it?
The concert itself ROCKED. The arena was gorgeous. Had been in a few weeks before completion, and was amazed at the progress made to finish it. Eagles were terrific. Who cares if Joe Walsh can't speak clearly... dude is magic on the strings.
Kudos to downtown businesses too. All that we stopped by were friendly, spiffy, had special hours or menus... parking was a snap... uniformed presence was terrific and conspicuous. It felt like a real downtown!!!
I was outside the BOK Center and noticed a lot of noise coming from Trigen who provides the chilled water to cool the BOK. I think maybe they were having issues on their side.
I am always too hot and I was OK in our seats.
We were in the second row of a section that only had two rows and I had an open seat next to me.
We are are the floor for the concert next Saturday...I hope the air-conditioning worls a little better...
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I was outside the BOK Center and noticed a lot of noise coming from Trigen who provides the chilled water to cool the BOK. I think maybe they were having issues on their side.
The city and Vision Builders were certainly warned about that...
Anyone know if Trigen actually added any chiller capacity, or figured they could wing it since many events would be off-hours from their other customers?
It's unfortunate so many other aspects of the BOKC were over-budget, the citizens of Tulsa would have gotten a really good pay-back by the center having it's own chiller and boiler plant.
Wavoka, please describe the 2 blonde girls.....I wonder if these are the same two my buddy and I spoke with after the concert.
PM me if necc.
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Originally posted by wavoka
They never got the AC fixed. We were sitting in the mid section and it was hot hot hot. The couple in front of us ended up leaving because they were so miserable.
I was never so happy to get outside of a building in my life. My hair was wet and my shirt was soaked like I had been working outside. It was truly miserable.
Helped with beer sales though.
My wife and I arrived early and we parked quite close at City Hall for $5 (not afraid of Downtown, I just had surgery and was first had experiencing the ADA compliance of the facility) and then we hung out outside the arena for about 45 minutes and saw many friends at the main entrance.... When the doors opened I pretty much hobbled directly to my seat (ok except for stopping at Billy's for a burger and to say hello to a friend since Nimitz Junior High).
When I walked into the bowl I noticed that is was cool and comfortable and not COOL as venues often are before a large event. My immediate thought was that they did not pre-cool sufficiently. From experience and testing of this facility I know they can get it plumb COLD if desired. The pre-cool is controlled by operations and often has direct requirements from the performers. We were in Section 103 in the corner of the bowl opposite the stage about 10 rows below the exits and during the show, which was FANTASTIC, we could feel cool air movement but once it got warm, the system never really got ahead of the conditions which would be very difficult to do for any system with that mass of humanity once you get behind the curve.
I thought the acoustics were excellent, especially for the first major show and watching the activity in the sound/video booth area just to my front right I noticed they were not in a panic so I took it that the venue did well on that front.
In my opinion it was a wonderful opening and a great show and it was interesting to see the volume of out-of-town cars (I saw Kansas, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas and Nebraska) and listening to people seated around me comment was great. There are always opening lesions to be learned and overall I think this was an opening home run.
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Originally posted by Vision 2025
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Originally posted by wavoka
They never got the AC fixed. We were sitting in the mid section and it was hot hot hot. The couple in front of us ended up leaving because they were so miserable.
I was never so happy to get outside of a building in my life. My hair was wet and my shirt was soaked like I had been working outside. It was truly miserable.
Helped with beer sales though.
My wife and I arrived early and we parked quite close at City Hall for $5 (not afraid of Downtown, I just had surgery and was first had experiencing the ADA compliance of the facility) and then we hung out outside the arena for about 45 minutes and saw many friends at the main entrance.... When the doors opened I pretty much hobbled directly to my seat (ok except for stopping at Billy's for a burger and to say hello to a friend since Nimitz Junior High).
When I walked into the bowl I noticed that is was cool and comfortable and not COOL as venues often are before a large event. My immediate thought was that they did not pre-cool sufficiently. From experience and testing of this facility I know they can get it plumb COLD if desired. The pre-cool is controlled by operations and often has direct requirements from the performers. We were in Section 103 in the corner of the bowl opposite the stage about 10 rows below the exits and during the show, which was FANTASTIC, we could feel cool air movement but once it got warm, the system never really got ahead of the conditions which would be very difficult to do for any system with that mass of humanity once you get behind the curve.
I thought the acoustics were excellent, especially for the first major show and watching the activity in the sound/video booth area just to my front right I noticed they were not in a panic so I took it that the venue did well on that front.
In my opinion it was a wonderful opening and a great show and it was interesting to see the volume of out-of-town cars (I saw Kansas, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas and Nebraska) and listening to people seated around me comment was great. There are always opening lesions to be learned and overall I think this was an opening home run.
Saturday was a relatively mild day weather wise, for an early September Day.
Was the show a Sell-Out?
No, people were voluntarily paying $600 a ticket when the box office had plenty of tickets available.[;)]
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by Vision 2025
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Originally posted by wavoka
They never got the AC fixed. We were sitting in the mid section and it was hot hot hot. The couple in front of us ended up leaving because they were so miserable.
I was never so happy to get outside of a building in my life. My hair was wet and my shirt was soaked like I had been working outside. It was truly miserable.
Helped with beer sales though.
My wife and I arrived early and we parked quite close at City Hall for $5 (not afraid of Downtown, I just had surgery and was first had experiencing the ADA compliance of the facility) and then we hung out outside the arena for about 45 minutes and saw many friends at the main entrance.... When the doors opened I pretty much hobbled directly to my seat (ok except for stopping at Billy's for a burger and to say hello to a friend since Nimitz Junior High).
When I walked into the bowl I noticed that is was cool and comfortable and not COOL as venues often are before a large event. My immediate thought was that they did not pre-cool sufficiently. From experience and testing of this facility I know they can get it plumb COLD if desired. The pre-cool is controlled by operations and often has direct requirements from the performers. We were in Section 103 in the corner of the bowl opposite the stage about 10 rows below the exits and during the show, which was FANTASTIC, we could feel cool air movement but once it got warm, the system never really got ahead of the conditions which would be very difficult to do for any system with that mass of humanity once you get behind the curve.
I thought the acoustics were excellent, especially for the first major show and watching the activity in the sound/video booth area just to my front right I noticed they were not in a panic so I took it that the venue did well on that front.
In my opinion it was a wonderful opening and a great show and it was interesting to see the volume of out-of-town cars (I saw Kansas, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas and Nebraska) and listening to people seated around me comment was great. There are always opening lesions to be learned and overall I think this was an opening home run.
Saturday was a relatively mild day weather wise, for an early September Day.
Was the show a Sell-Out?
Sold out in under an hour.
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Originally posted by OkieDiva
But the air quality was terrible. Like concrete dust lingering in the air or something.
I didn't get tickets to the Eagles, but I noticed the same thing at the Open House. I think you've nailed it on the head: construction/drywall dust throughout. I have pretty bad allergies and noticed that the seats were a little dusty at the open house. I wondered if they were going to vacuum them all before the Eagles concert.
At the same time, having done drywall repairs at home, I know how hard it is to get the dust cleaned up. (Now imagine building an arena, instead of remodling a bathroom!) It ends up on every surface, and it travels a long way in the air. And, if you don't vacuum with the right equipment, you'll end up just blowing the dust around, instead of getting rid of it.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Quotequote] sold out in under an hour.
Will RM make refunds to all the people who he scalped by tell them there was no more tickets as it was sold out?
The World indicted that there was 14,000 thousand in attendance in the Sunday addition.
They reported there was less than 18,000 in the Monday issue.
Regardless, is it not under the FOI the complete information as to the total paid admissions and other income derived from the event. Is it forth coming in the near future so the average will know on how much money was needed by their sacrificing the paying tax on their children's food?
I used the profit to buy some lights.
That way the shadows go away.
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Originally posted by shadows
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Quotequote] sold out in under an hour.
Will RM make refunds to all the people who he scalped by tell them there was no more tickets as it was sold out?
The World indicted that there was 14,000 thousand in attendance in the Sunday addition.
They reported there was less than 18,000 in the Monday issue.
Regardless, is it not under the FOI the complete information as to the total paid admissions and other income derived from the event. Is it forth coming in the near future so the average will know on how much money was needed by their sacrificing the paying tax on their children's food?
Both numbers may be correct.
It is possible the attendance was only 14,000.
The ticket scalpers may have purchased the remainder which they unfortunately for them could not sell at the prices they were asking.
That might explain the difference.
Did it appear there were a lot of empty seats at Saturday's Concert?
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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Originally posted by shadows
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Quotequote] sold out in under an hour.
Will RM make refunds to all the people who he scalped by tell them there was no more tickets as it was sold out?
The World indicted that there was 14,000 thousand in attendance in the Sunday addition.
They reported there was less than 18,000 in the Monday issue.
Regardless, is it not under the FOI the complete information as to the total paid admissions and other income derived from the event. Is it forth coming in the near future so the average will know on how much money was needed by their sacrificing the paying tax on their children's food?
Both numbers may be correct.
It is possible the attendance was only 14,000.
The ticket scalpers may have purchased the remainder which they unfortunately for them could not sell at the prices they were asking.
That might explain the difference.
Did it appear there were a lot of empty seats at Saturday's Concert?
Only directly behind the stage.....
Rumors circulating last week indicated a 13,000 seat sales figure. They paid the Eagles 1.8 million dollars. Each "eaglette" had their own dressing room. They hardly speak to each other. Wow. Do you think they're take will be that big the second time around?
A true loss leader. No way anybody made much on this gig except the band....
"Remember the days when we stopped to decide, where we should go, we'd just ride." (Garcia/Hunter)
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Originally posted by FOTD
Rumors circulating last week
That's where you lost me
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Originally posted by Townsend
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Originally posted by FOTD
Rumors circulating last week
That's where you lost me
Then ask for an accounting. You own the event center.
The music business was once about the music. Now it's about the money. If you can get some play....
The BOK Center doesn't seat 18,000 in the end stage configuration because you have one whole end blocked off since it is behind the performers. Actually attendance would be in the 13,000-14,000 range.
Celine and Metallica (imagine those two being in the same sentence) are doing center stage which is closer to 19,000
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Originally posted by FOTD
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Originally posted by Townsend
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Originally posted by FOTD
Rumors circulating last week
That's where you lost me
Then ask for an accounting. You own the event center.
The music business was once about the music. Now it's about the money. If you can get some play....
No, it was always about the money...business - the purchase and sale of goods in an attempt to make a profit.
Why post rumors as a statement on a forum designed for information.?
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Originally posted by FOTD
Rumors circulating last week indicated a 13,000 seat sales figure. They paid the Eagles 1.8 million dollars. Each "eaglette" had their own dressing room. They hardly speak to each other. Wow. Do you think they're take will be that big the second time around?
A true loss leader. No way anybody made much on this gig except the band....
"Remember the days when we stopped to decide, where we should go, we'd just ride." (Garcia/Hunter)
Most of the downtown restaurants and other businesses raked it in that night and will continue to do so on every event. You see...when poeple go to events they don't just go from point A to point B and return home. That's how Tulsa will profit.
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Originally posted by Ttowndad
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Originally posted by FOTD
Rumors circulating last week indicated a 13,000 seat sales figure. They paid the Eagles 1.8 million dollars. Each "eaglette" had their own dressing room. They hardly speak to each other. Wow. Do you think they're take will be that big the second time around?
A true loss leader. No way anybody made much on this gig except the band....
"Remember the days when we stopped to decide, where we should go, we'd just ride." (Garcia/Hunter)
Most of the downtown restaurants and other businesses raked it in that night and will continue to do so on every event. You see...when poeple go to events they don't just go from point A to point B and return home. That's how Tulsa will profit.
If only there was a tonnage of occupancy. However, there will be cold nights....and not just on the night of performances (as few as there are now and less in the future).
The economy ain't great. The nights downtown are vacuous for most the year. Don't think 13,000 ten times a year will make a big impact on local eateries and boozeries when disposable income can only be stretched so far.
Keep up the hope! We need real hope....and change for the good of those that need it the most.
Our daughter and SIL went to the concert. They parked fairly close and paid $5. They walked to
one of the restaurants for dinner and enjoyed it.
Their $55 dollar seats were in the nose bleed section which they were expecting for that price. She tried getting better seats on opening ticket day as soon as they were open but this is what she got. They were in the 3rd row from the top.
Both of them are tiny and not over 5'8. They said there is no leg room at all in those seats. They finally got up and moved to the top to sit in an end row seat for some leg room. Later they gave that up and went down and stood in one of the exits. I'm surprised they didn't get ran off there. They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group. They felt the BOK was nice. They have been to other concerts in other cities and states so they have seen just as nice ones they said. Oh yes, like others have said, it was hot where they were at.
It takes time to get the bugs worked out I guess.
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Originally posted by FOTD
Don't think 13,000 ten times a year will make a big impact on local eateries and boozeries when disposable income can only be stretched so far.
Ten times a year is how often I go to south Tulsa...if you count India Palace at 71st and Lewis, which I do.
If I remember correctly, the BOK Arena is already booked for over 200 events for its first year in business. (Many events have multiple shows, plus Oilers home games, etc).
You may want to re-calculate the impact on downtown...
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Originally posted by Ttowndad
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Originally posted by FOTD
Rumors circulating last week indicated a 13,000 seat sales figure. They paid the Eagles 1.8 million dollars. Each "eaglette" had their own dressing room. They hardly speak to each other. Wow. Do you think they're take will be that big the second time around?
A true loss leader. No way anybody made much on this gig except the band....
"Remember the days when we stopped to decide, where we should go, we'd just ride." (Garcia/Hunter)
Most of the downtown restaurants and other businesses raked it in that night and will continue to do so on every event. You see...when poeple go to events they don't just go from point A to point B and return home. That's how Tulsa will profit.
Wait and we will see when the wind comes sweeping down the plain streets not to let the cold, rain, and snow cost them customers.
Is there a hallucination taking place that make posters falsely visualize a big city or even a second tier city?
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Originally posted by PonderInc
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Originally posted by FOTD
Don't think 13,000 ten times a year will make a big impact on local eateries and boozeries when disposable income can only be stretched so far.
Ten times a year is how often I go to south Tulsa...if you count India Palace at 71st and Lewis, which I do.
If I remember correctly, the BOK Arena is already booked for over 200 events for its first year in business. (Many events have multiple shows, plus Oilers home games, etc).
You may want to re-calculate the impact on downtown...
There's plenty of parking for hockey moms and their families in the nearby parking garages since the average game draws less than 3000. BTW, kids can't go to boozeries. And besides, the kids need to get home just in case they have responsible parents.
You re-calculate. 200? And how many will feed downtown biness? The circus goers will eat at the Areama.
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Originally posted by FOTD
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Originally posted by PonderInc
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Originally posted by FOTD
Don't think 13,000 ten times a year will make a big impact on local eateries and boozeries when disposable income can only be stretched so far.
Ten times a year is how often I go to south Tulsa...if you count India Palace at 71st and Lewis, which I do.
If I remember correctly, the BOK Arena is already booked for over 200 events for its first year in business. (Many events have multiple shows, plus Oilers home games, etc).
You may want to re-calculate the impact on downtown...
There's plenty of parking for hockey moms and their families in the nearby parking garages since the average game draws less than 3000. BTW, kids can't go to boozeries. And besides, the kids need to get home just in case they have responsible parents.
You re-calculate. 200? And how many will feed downtown biness? The circus goers will eat at the Areama.
A little off on the Oilers attendance.
TEAM YESTERDAY TOTAL OPENINGS AVERAGE
Oklahoma City 278,823 32 8,713
Wichita 190,372 32 5,949
Colorado 169,248 32 5,289
Rio Grande Valley 150,762 32 4,711
Bossier-Shreveport 149,138 32 4,660
Arizona 137,943 32 4,310
Tulsa 134,727 32 4,210
Laredo 130,908 32 4,090
Corpus Christi 120,419 32 3,763
Youngstown 106,687 32 3,333
Rocky Mountain 104,595 32 3,268
Mississippi 104,462 32 3,264
New Mexico 95,332 32 2,979
Amarillo 88,250 32 2,757
Odessa 83,650 32 2,614
Austin 60,800 32 1,900
Texas 58,541 32 1,829 It will be quite a bit better this season. Trust in that.
But, then again, naysayers will be naysayers. You don't like it. Stay away. That's your God-given right.
As much as it is mine to applaud the decision to build it.
I don't see how the arena discussion can be turned into a negative, it seems like things are going great. Major acts drawing fans from surrounding states. Thousands of people going downtown that were not going downtown before.
The Eagles each had their own dressing room and did not speak much? I find nothing unusual about that, they are professional musicians in a professional band, not a group of 18 year old buddies just starting a rock group. They put on a great show, so what's to complain about?
It is my understanding that these types of venues rarely make a profit, they are there to bring entertainment to cities, which brings visitors and money to cities.
And not every act that appears in a venue will sell every seat. Nine Inch Nails recently played the Ford Center in OKC with an attendance of around 8,000 according to the Oklahoman.
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Originally posted by marc
I don't see how the arena discussion can be turned into a negative, it seems like things are going great. Major acts drawing fans from surrounding states. Thousands of people going downtown that were not going downtown before.
The Eagles each had their own dressing room and did not speak much? I find nothing unusual about that, they are professional musicians in a professional band, not a group of 18 year old buddies just starting a rock group. They put on a great show, so what's to complain about?
It is my understanding that these types of venues rarely make a profit, they are there to bring entertainment to cities, which brings visitors and money to cities.
And not every act that appears in a venue will sell every seat. Nine Inch Nails recently played the Ford Center in OKC with an attendance of around 8,000 according to the Oklahoman.
And from what I understand, the 8000 number had nothing to do with inability to sell seats; it had everything to do with the seating layout. Look at NIN's layout for the concert at the BOK.
Lol..13,000....The place was packed....Leave it to Fauxturd to fill a thread with excreta....
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Originally posted by Hoss
And from what I understand, the 8000 number had nothing to do with inability to sell seats; it had everything to do with the seating layout. Look at NIN's layout for the concert at the BOK.
The ford center used no upper level seating and the BOK Center is using only limited upper level seating.
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Originally posted by Oklahomalady
Our daughter and SIL went to the concert. They parked fairly close and paid $5. They walked to
one of the restaurants for dinner and enjoyed it.
Their $55 dollar seats were in the nose bleed section which they were expecting for that price. She tried getting better seats on opening ticket day as soon as they were open but this is what she got. They were in the 3rd row from the top.
Both of them are tiny and not over 5'8. They said there is no leg room at all in those seats. They finally got up and moved to the top to sit in an end row seat for some leg room. Later they gave that up and went down and stood in one of the exits. I'm surprised they didn't get ran off there. They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group. They felt the BOK was nice. They have been to other concerts in other cities and states so they have seen just as nice ones they said. Oh yes, like others have said, it was hot where they were at.
It takes time to get the bugs worked out I guess.
"They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group."Oh come on. The only thing that was said the entire concert was when Joe Walsh was singing
Life's been Good To Me and he sang "I have a limo, ride in the back. I lock the doors and vote for Barack."
Hell I'm a McCain supporter and I found it to be funny.
Your daughter and sister in law need to lighten up.
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Originally posted by wavoka
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Originally posted by Oklahomalady
Our daughter and SIL went to the concert. They parked fairly close and paid $5. They walked to
one of the restaurants for dinner and enjoyed it.
Their $55 dollar seats were in the nose bleed section which they were expecting for that price. She tried getting better seats on opening ticket day as soon as they were open but this is what she got. They were in the 3rd row from the top.
Both of them are tiny and not over 5'8. They said there is no leg room at all in those seats. They finally got up and moved to the top to sit in an end row seat for some leg room. Later they gave that up and went down and stood in one of the exits. I'm surprised they didn't get ran off there. They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group. They felt the BOK was nice. They have been to other concerts in other cities and states so they have seen just as nice ones they said. Oh yes, like others have said, it was hot where they were at.
It takes time to get the bugs worked out I guess.
"They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group."
Oh come on. The only thing that was said the entire concert was when Joe Walsh was singing Life's been Good To Me and he sang "I have a limo, ride in the back. I lock the doors and vote for Barack."
Hell I'm a McCain supporter and I found it to be funny.
Your daughter and sister in law need to lighten up.
Wow, I'm a little over 6 feet tall and had no problems with leg room in the upper bowl. At least no more than what already exists in our former primary venue (CC).
The lower bowl, where my season tickets are for hockey, are actually quite roomy. Seat size and legroom.
But, then again, some people are always going to complain. And as to the Eagles political leanings, if you didn't know how that was going to be, especially since Don Henley wrote 'Dirty Laundry' in 1983, then you obviously knew little of the group.
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by wavoka
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Originally posted by Oklahomalady
Our daughter and SIL went to the concert. They parked fairly close and paid $5. They walked to
one of the restaurants for dinner and enjoyed it.
Their $55 dollar seats were in the nose bleed section which they were expecting for that price. She tried getting better seats on opening ticket day as soon as they were open but this is what she got. They were in the 3rd row from the top.
Both of them are tiny and not over 5'8. They said there is no leg room at all in those seats. They finally got up and moved to the top to sit in an end row seat for some leg room. Later they gave that up and went down and stood in one of the exits. I'm surprised they didn't get ran off there. They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group. They felt the BOK was nice. They have been to other concerts in other cities and states so they have seen just as nice ones they said. Oh yes, like others have said, it was hot where they were at.
It takes time to get the bugs worked out I guess.
"They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group."
Oh come on. The only thing that was said the entire concert was when Joe Walsh was singing Life's been Good To Me and he sang "I have a limo, ride in the back. I lock the doors and vote for Barack."
Hell I'm a McCain supporter and I found it to be funny.
Your daughter and sister in law need to lighten up.
Wow, I'm a little over 6 feet tall and had no problems with leg room in the upper bowl. At least no more than what already exists in our former primary venue (CC).
The lower bowl, where my season tickets are for hockey, are actually quite roomy. Seat size and legroom.
But, then again, some people are always going to complain. And as to the Eagles political leanings, if you didn't know how that was going to be, especially since Don Henley wrote 'Dirty Laundry' in 1983, then you obviously knew little of the group.
Hoss, you DID remember to remove your 10 gallon hat, didn't you?
Apparently they haven't been to the Ford Center either. I think there is an additional 3" of legroom at the BOK.
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Originally posted by Hoss
Wow, I'm a little over 6 feet tall and had no problems with leg room in the upper bowl. At least no more than what already exists in our former primary venue (CC).
Keep in mind that women usually have longer legs than men. I'm a woman, 6'1", and suspect my legs are significantly longer than yours with my 37" inseam. However, I know my height/leg length is not the norm and thus don't complain about inadequate (for me) seating leg room. Perfect excuse to always buy the good seats! [:D]
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Originally posted by Conan71
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by wavoka
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Originally posted by Oklahomalady
Our daughter and SIL went to the concert. They parked fairly close and paid $5. They walked to
one of the restaurants for dinner and enjoyed it.
Their $55 dollar seats were in the nose bleed section which they were expecting for that price. She tried getting better seats on opening ticket day as soon as they were open but this is what she got. They were in the 3rd row from the top.
Both of them are tiny and not over 5'8. They said there is no leg room at all in those seats. They finally got up and moved to the top to sit in an end row seat for some leg room. Later they gave that up and went down and stood in one of the exits. I'm surprised they didn't get ran off there. They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group. They felt the BOK was nice. They have been to other concerts in other cities and states so they have seen just as nice ones they said. Oh yes, like others have said, it was hot where they were at.
It takes time to get the bugs worked out I guess.
"They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group."
Oh come on. The only thing that was said the entire concert was when Joe Walsh was singing Life's been Good To Me and he sang "I have a limo, ride in the back. I lock the doors and vote for Barack."
Hell I'm a McCain supporter and I found it to be funny.
Your daughter and sister in law need to lighten up.
Wow, I'm a little over 6 feet tall and had no problems with leg room in the upper bowl. At least no more than what already exists in our former primary venue (CC).
The lower bowl, where my season tickets are for hockey, are actually quite roomy. Seat size and legroom.
But, then again, some people are always going to complain. And as to the Eagles political leanings, if you didn't know how that was going to be, especially since Don Henley wrote 'Dirty Laundry' in 1983, then you obviously knew little of the group.
Hoss, you DID remember to remove your 10 gallon hat, didn't you?
Last time I checked, the post was regarding leg room.
Not head room.
But, then again, for some posters, even in a large space, that might pose a problem, given the apparent size of their craniums.
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Originally posted by wavoka
Very good show. Sounded great, nice mix of old and new songs. The band looked to be having a good time, and except for the 2 drunk obnoxious blonds sitting 2 seats down from my wife and I the audience was cool as well.
My one gripe:
Did we not pay for air conditioning in the building? It was miserably hot in there.
According to Tulsa Today, the Eagles wanted a warm room and required the A/C turned off a day in advance.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
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Originally posted by wavoka
Very good show. Sounded great, nice mix of old and new songs. The band looked to be having a good time, and except for the 2 drunk obnoxious blonds sitting 2 seats down from my wife and I the audience was cool as well.
My one gripe:
Did we not pay for air conditioning in the building? It was miserably hot in there.
According to Tulsa Today, the Eagles wanted a warm room and required the A/C turned off a day in advance.
I find that odd considering Don Henley made a comment after intermission saying "Feels like they finally got the air conditioning working."
Channel 8 ran the same story.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Channel 8 ran the same story.
As well as the Assistant GM of the building saying as much (which he was probably quoted from the Channel 8 story).
Not wanting to be a naysayer but if the people are returning back down town in the numbers that are being posted then the "rebuilding of downtown" may bring the business back that left some decades ago. It was not long ago when we could have horse racing on Saturday night down main street without interfering with the ghostly crowds of the '50s-'60s.
The main interest is calculating what is the cost of opening the arena each night that there is a booking. With the retail sales in a downward skid the last two months it can cause less sales taxes which are to use to pay off the revenue bonds, used to build the arena as revenue..
It is all new now but as FB pointed out it can become a liability to the city budget as the revenue pledged (with the interest) will continue regardless of the seats being vacant. There are rumors that the total cost was greater than estimated. Has anyone come up with the final cost?
The back-to-back schedules posted indicate that Hockey fans would need to outnumber those who supported the Football team before they left town.
Is it like a Christmas present, unopened from the working poor?
RM; the greater the lighting the darker the shadows.
Sorry shadows...you don't have enough information to make a sound opinion. Have you been to the new arena? Did you see all the own-of-town cars at last night's show?
Did you see all the new jobs that the arena has created for the working poor?
No matter how much you and friendly bear want the arena to fail, so far you have been completely wrong. Go ahead and speculate without knowledge...maybe you can come up with some far-fetched analogy to entertain the readers who laugh at your posts.
Sgrizzle posted; According to Tulsa Today, the Eagles wanted a warm room and required the A/C turned off a day in advance.
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If that statement is true then the operators of the arena need to be replaced before the city is looking for another 7.1 Million to settle a class action suit as that would be quite a health hazard for a gathering of thousands of people in a confined area without proper circulating of stale air. .
RM: I live in the real world where a dollar calculator can come up with a square root solution before you can write it on a piece of paper.
The winners in the construction of these projects are those who buy the revenue bonds, issued on the anticipation that a future generation will pay them off or they will ruin the city's credit rating, The interest earned on such bonds are not taxable so you think who buys them? Those who promote these projects? Huh?