As any TulsaNow forum reader knows, the first city-wide PLANiTULSA (//%22http://www.planitulsa.org%22) workshops will be held Sept 22 & 23. Why should you care?
What's your passion?
Green/Sustainable growth
Improving economic opportunity thoughout Tulsa
Walkable neighborhoods
Historic Preservation
Viable, efficient transit
Connecting neighborhoods
Supporting "local and unique"
A healthier city
Improved air and water quality
Making Tulsa a great place for young people
Making Tulsa a great place for older citizens
Revitalizing north Tulsa
Celebrating diverse cultures
Retaining tax dollars
Etc, etc, etc...
Or, are you just tired of fighting every bad development plan that comes along at the TMAPC week after week, month after month, year after year?
Whatever lights your fire, whatever your passion, bring your friends and get involved in PLANiTULSA.
Silence is failure.
How about adding the following to that list?:
Stopping the privatization of public infrastructure or services.
Stopping the use of eminent domain for private development.
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Originally posted by inteller
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Originally posted by PonderInc
As any TulsaNow forum reader knows, the first city-wide PLANiTULSA (//%22http://www.planitulsa.org%22) workshops will be held Sept 22 & 23. Why should you care?
What's your passion?
Green/Sustainable growth
Improving economic opportunity thoughout Tulsa
Walkable neighborhoods
Historic Preservation
Viable, efficient transit
Connecting neighborhoods
Supporting "local and unique"
A healthier city
Improved air and water quality
Making Tulsa a great place for young people
Making Tulsa a great place for older citizens
Revitalizing north Tulsa
Celebrating diverse cultures
Retaining tax dollars
Etc, etc, etc...
Or, are you just tired of fighting every bad development plan that comes along at the TMAPC week after week, month after month, year after year?
Whatever lights your fire, whatever your passion, bring your friends and get involved in PLANiTULSA.
Silence is failure.
two workshops downtown is not exactly city wide.
City wide refers to the scope of the planing exercises, not the locations of the workshops.
After the two "city-wide" (big picture) workshops, there will be several additional workshops focused on smaller areas of the city. These "neighborhood" workshops will allow citizens to look at smaller areas of town in much greater detail.
I would expect there to be close to a dozen different community workshops during the initial (community input) phase of PLANiTULSA.
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Originally posted by PonderInc
After the two "city-wide" (big picture) workshops, there will be several additional workshops focused on smaller areas of the city. These "neighborhood" workshops will allow citizens to look at smaller areas of town in much greater detail.
I would expect there to be close to a dozen different community workshops during the initial (community input) phase of PLANiTULSA.
How about a public vote to approve and adopt the final version of the comp plan update? If this is a public planning process driven by public input let the public have the final say, I say.
I think you'd have to first vote to change the city ordinance that authorizes the City Council to approve comp plans.
I think the point of having representative government is that the general public doesn't have to hold an election to decide every single thing. In this case, the general public is encouraged to participate, and they are encouraged to hold their representatives responsible for ensuring that their vision is carried out. I am confident that if enough citizens work on this, and follow through by insisting that it is adopted as written, it will work.
What would a city-wide vote achieve (as opposed to council approval to adopt the plan)? What would you do if a special interest group(presumably status quo development interestests) financed an expensive campaign to defeat the adoption of the comp plan (created by thousands of engaged citizens)? Then what would you have, after all the thousands of hours of work by thousands of people... Presumably if it were defeated, we would have nothing.
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Originally posted by PonderInc
I think you'd have to first vote to change the city ordinance that authorizes the City Council to approve comp plans.
I think the point of having representative government is that the general public doesn't have to hold an election to decide every single thing. In this case, the general public is encouraged to participate, and they are encouraged to hold their representatives responsible for ensuring that their vision is carried out. I am confident that if enough citizens work on this, and follow through by insisting that it is adopted as written, it will work.
What would a city-wide vote achieve (as opposed to council approval to adopt the plan)? What would you do if a special interest group(presumably status quo development interestests) financed an expensive campaign to defeat the adoption of the comp plan (created by thousands of engaged citizens)? Then what would you have, after all the thousands of hours of work by thousands of people... Presumably if it were defeated, we would have nothing.
B.S.
Let the people vote.
All the Council has to do is send this to a vote of the people, if it takes a charter change to require a vote of the people, I'm down with that. There's plenty of time to get a charter change on the ballot for the Nov O9 Council/Mayoral election, either by Council action or by initiative petition.
After seeing the protestor who was against the comp plan because he didn't want taxes to go up and he didn't like his city councilor, I'm not sure putting it to a vote of the public would get it a fair trial.
But some people think it's all a plot to "force everyone out of their cars and into stack'em and pack'em" apartment buildings downtown. ???
http://www.tulsabeacon.com/?p=3982 (http://www.tulsabeacon.com/?p=3982)
Randal O'toole is a well known anti-rail advocate.
See the Myths and Facts sections of:
www.lightrailnow.org
for another point of view.
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was: anit-...
now: anti-...
Quote from: Transport_Oklahoma on April 30, 2010, 11:43:56 AM
But some people think it's all a plot to "force everyone out of their cars and into stack'em and pack'em" apartment buildings downtown. ???
http://www.tulsabeacon.com/?p=3982 (http://www.tulsabeacon.com/?p=3982)
The Beacon... ::)
Quote from: Red Arrow on April 30, 2010, 12:07:39 PM
Randal O'toole is a well known anit-rail advocate.
See the Myths and Facts sections of:
www.lightrailnow.org
for another point of view.
His name is fitting...