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Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: dsjeffries on August 13, 2008, 12:45:46 PM
I've been watching concrete piers/supports go up for a new building along 11th Street a block or two east of Peoria, but there's no sign indicating what it may be.

It's at least 2 stories so far, and looks like it may meet the curb.

Does anyone know what this may be?
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: we vs us on August 13, 2008, 12:59:40 PM
Yeah, good question.  I've been seeing that recently, too, and it looks kinda big for what's around it.
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: pfox on August 13, 2008, 01:01:23 PM
Meadow Gold sign....
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: RecycleMichael on August 13, 2008, 02:14:26 PM
It is a big, new support structure for an old sign.

Yea!, more signage.
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: dsjeffries on August 13, 2008, 03:03:01 PM
Is it seriously JUST for the sign?

If so, I think I'm going to stand in a corner for hours.
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: carltonplace on August 13, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
I remember something about a little Route 66 information/museum planned inside. Since it will be open air I'm not sure what to call the "inside".
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: Renaissance on August 13, 2008, 03:47:01 PM
It's going to be this:

(http://www.tulsaworld.com/articleimages/2006/060821_A1_Meado12231_a3sign.jpg)

I think it's pretty cool.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=060821_Ne_A1_Meado12231
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: PonderInc on August 13, 2008, 04:15:50 PM
Glad they saved the sign.  Wish they'd put it on some big old warehouse on Rt 66.  The scale of this thing on a tiny little "stand" looks weird to me.  And I hate it being so totally out of context.  Even if it were on top of a little tourist info/shop, that would be better than this strange little structure.  Can we donate money to build walls?
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: breitee on August 13, 2008, 04:25:49 PM
Walls would be nice and would add stability to the structure. I can just see some drunk driving into one of the supporting pillars and the whole thing come crashing down. Don't they think about these things?
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: rwarn17588 on August 13, 2008, 04:34:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PonderInc

Glad they saved the sign.  Wish they'd put it on some big old warehouse on Rt 66.  



They looked at Tally's and the Teamsters building near downtown. They either had problems with the structure supporting the sign, or the sight lines being horrible.

The Meadow Gold sign was originally at 11th and Lewis. Being near 11th and Peoria is a good enough compromise.

And best of all, the sign will look better than it has in decades.
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: Ibanez on August 13, 2008, 06:36:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by breitee

Walls would be nice and would add stability to the structure. I can just see some drunk driving into one of the supporting pillars and the whole thing come crashing down. Don't they think about these things?



It should be fine as long as we can keep females from Owasso from driving by.
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: PonderInc on August 13, 2008, 10:01:54 PM
I heard the Bartlett "Square" "Fountain" got hit again.  This time, according to rumor, the SUV went airborne...
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: rwarn17588 on August 13, 2008, 10:11:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by breitee

Walls would be nice and would add stability to the structure. I can just see some drunk driving into one of the supporting pillars and the whole thing come crashing down. Don't they think about these things?




Well, there *are* these things at the side of the street called curbs. Maybe they have them where you live.

[}:)]
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: MDepr2007 on August 13, 2008, 10:46:35 PM
A nice 4 story apartment building would look good underneath of it. [:D]

At least we know everyone would be for it, who would dare say no.
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: carltonplace on August 14, 2008, 12:11:34 PM
Maybe an apartment building for the homeless? No one would ever be upset about that.
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: MDepr2007 on August 14, 2008, 02:47:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by carltonplace

Maybe an apartment building for the homeless? No one would ever be upset about that.



Careful it might need a zoning change if it's for homeless only
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: breitee on August 14, 2008, 03:00:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:
Originally posted by breitee

Walls would be nice and would add stability to the structure. I can just see some drunk driving into one of the supporting pillars and the whole thing come crashing down. Don't they think about these things?




Well, there *are* these things at the side of the street called curbs. Maybe they have them where you live.

[}:)]




Right, like a curb will stop a drunk driver from hitting the supports. Maybe if they are driving 5 MPH.
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: inteller on August 14, 2008, 08:14:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by breitee

Walls would be nice and would add stability to the structure. I can just see some drunk driving into one of the supporting pillars and the whole thing come crashing down. Don't they think about these things?



well, it will make a nice thing to run under during a hail storm.
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: RecycleMichael on August 14, 2008, 08:42:15 PM
I am pretty apathetic about it, but many of my friends think it is the coolest thing on route 66.

To me, it is a oversized sign (that we would never allow at that location if it was a new sign). It advertises for an out-of-state owned company with Tulsa operations two and a half miles away. By volume, it is about seventy five percent frame and one quarter actual sign. It blocks views of the Tulsa downtown skyline from higher ground.

To others, it is a precious connection to their past, when they rode in cars with their parents past the neon lights along route 66. It's salvage is a symbol that we can enjoy brights lights and relive the glow of yesterday.  

I guess we are both right.
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: AVERAGE JOE on August 15, 2008, 04:14:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PonderInc

Glad they saved the sign.  Wish they'd put it on some big old warehouse on Rt 66.  The scale of this thing on a tiny little "stand" looks weird to me.  And I hate it being so totally out of context.  Even if it were on top of a little tourist info/shop, that would be better than this strange little structure.  Can we donate money to build walls?


The structure is scaled to be the same as the one-story commercial building the sign orginally sat on. Walls would be nice, but would require more money to build, and the need for heat, A/C and likely plumbing for bathrooms to get an occupancy permit. It would also create a dark hidey-hole unless you installed windows.

The open-air structure will do the trick and there will be Route 66 kiosks/information under it.
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: ARGUS on August 16, 2008, 10:29:29 AM
kiosks under it............? Pluuuueeeeze...Ok...big sign, urban setting= pigeons=covered in pigeon crap.
Title: Development on 11th St. (?)
Post by: TheArtist on August 16, 2008, 12:21:20 PM
Kiosks with umbrellas then.