Seriously...we have to flush the toilet and urinals manually? I looked at some pictures on the website just now and all of the pictures had manual urinals/toilets. C'mon, the automatic flush technology has been around for years. Could the cost have been so massive they abandonded the idea?
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Originally posted by izmophonik
Seriously...we have to flush the toilet and urinals manually? I looked at some pictures on the website just now and all of the pictures had manual urinals/toilets. C'mon, the automatic flush technology has been around for years. Could the cost have been so massive they abandonded the idea?
Maybe it's some part of the claim that this building is more 'green' than others?
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Originally posted by Hoss
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Originally posted by izmophonik
Seriously...we have to flush the toilet and urinals manually? I looked at some pictures on the website just now and all of the pictures had manual urinals/toilets. C'mon, the automatic flush technology has been around for years. Could the cost have been so massive they abandonded the idea?
Maybe it's some part of the claim that this building is more 'green' than others?
I'm thinking the colors will be brown and yellow. Only green if they are serving some really bad food there.
They are low-water use.
In my office we had automatic in some and converted some back. The things would either never stop flushing or never start. That and for the BOK Center you would have 350 9v batteries to replace regularly.
I had no idea they ran on batteries. I just assumed they tied into existing electrical. Ours never have the flush/not flush issue.. maybe your company bought them at Big Lots or something cheap.
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I travel a lot, and just from observation I can tell you the automatic flushers malfunction a lot.
It's just as well the arena goes low-flow and manual flushes. Less maintenance that way.
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
I travel a lot, and just from observation I can tell you the automatic flushers malfunction a lot.
It's just as well the arena goes low-flow and manual flushes. Less maintenance that way.
Better point than mine, actually. I never really would have thought that. And I also didn't realize that the auto-flushers ran on batteries.
Some of you guys need to have the opportunity to live out on a farm for a time with outhouses as your only form of release. Makes any kind of toilet with attached flushing mechanism pretty attractive. [:)]
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Originally posted by citizen72
Some of you guys need to have the opportunity to live out on a farm for a time with outhouses as your only form of release. Makes any kind of toilet with attached flushing mechanism pretty attractive. [:)]
What makes you think I haven't? [;)]
Rwarn lives there now. He's sticking it out for when Red Fork gets fresh water and electric service.
I remember my grandparents first house had an outhouse out back near the swamp. When your 4, that was a very scary place.
The Denver Grill, a diner that was torn down for the arena, had outdoor bathrooms.
I remember how the anti-arena people were going on and on about how terrible it was that they were tearing down this old diner.
I doubt most of them had ever been in the place.
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Originally posted by izmophonik
Seriously...we have to flush the toilet and urinals manually? I looked at some pictures on the website just now and all of the pictures had manual urinals/toilets. C'mon, the automatic flush technology has been around for years. Could the cost have been so massive they abandonded the idea?
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You used more energy thinking about, composing, & posting this thread than you would use in a lifetime going through the act of flushing a urinal.
....However, convenient/sanitary
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael
The Denver Grill, a diner that was torn down for the arena, had outdoor bathrooms.
I remember how the anti-arena people were going on and on about how terrible it was that they were tearing down this old diner.
I doubt most of them had ever been in the place.
I have. The neon was really cool, but little else about the place was. I'm surprised it passed health codes at all.
I'm a big Route 66er, and like old things a lot. But not at the expense of sanitation. I'm retro, but I'm also a realist.
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You used more energy thinking about, composing, & posting this thread than you would use in a lifetime going through the act of flushing a urinal.
....However, convenient/sanitary
I was really opening the thread based on a cleanliness/anti-bacterial/let's not get sick bias...not because I'm lazy, which I am.
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We have auto flush toilets in the office. They run on 9V batteries. We have to change the batteries every 2 years for 4 toilets and about 40 people. Not bad.
So, for the arena's 350 or so toilets it would cost about $700 every two or more years, or $350 a year. I think we should take up a collection.
I've seen what happens during an event without an auto-flush system.
I'm having visions of the toilet at Arnie's at about 1:30 AM.
The auto flushers in one tech center work flawlessly along with the automatic sinks. I am always surprised when I have to do things the 'old' way elsewhere :P
Compare to the Manual Zurn Flush Valve costs.
http://www.plumbingproducts.com/zurn.html
Most public use facilities today have updated to the auto-flush valves. appears to be a simple retro-fit of the manual valve. Similar to the card reader locks on hotel/motel rooms that also run off of a 9-volt battery.
http://www.plumbingsupply.com/sidemountautoflush.html
The "every 24 hour flush" feature should lower maintenance costs by keeping the bowls filled with fresh water during idle usage times.
These auto-flush systems also meet the Americans with Disability Associations standards.
http://www.wholesalejanitorialsupply.com/I/3692-TC
"Toilet model includes a "courtesy flush" button."
Did they get that from that Seinfeld episode?
Rechargable 9-volt batteries have been around for many years. As simple as swaping out the 9volt in your smoke alarms.
A Lithium 9-Volt cell is now avaialble.
http://www.thomasdistributing.com/ipower-9v-lithium-rechargeable-battery.php
I was in a large public facility last night and when I went to wash my hands in the restroom I instinctively put them under the faucet and stood there until I realized that I would have to turn on the water manually.
We are becoming so lazy! [:P]
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Originally posted by Gaspar
I was in a large public facility last night and when I went to wash my hands in the restroom I instinctively put them under the faucet and stood there until I realized that I would have to turn on the water manually.
We are becoming so lazy! [:P]
I do the same thing with paper towel dispensers.
Not all automatics run on batteries, you can also specify sensors that are 120volt but that method requires a good deal of additional electrical work.
At one point, I believe, there was a recommendation from the designers to go with no-flush urinals... At first these sound gross but are actually very effective and in my observation are not at all offensive when properly maintained. EXPO has installed them in the new Central Park Hall as a test and so far operations are very pleased with the installation.
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Originally posted by Townsend
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Originally posted by Gaspar
I was in a large public facility last night and when I went to wash my hands in the restroom I instinctively put them under the faucet and stood there until I realized that I would have to turn on the water manually.
We are becoming so lazy! [:P]
I do the same thing with paper towel dispensers.
Me too. I actually have been frustrated when no paper towel emerged automatically. I bet I looked (more) foolish waving my hands around trying to activate a manual paer towel dispenser.
Strange, I don't expect doors to open by themselves and I don't speak into my mouse: "computer, please execute command!".
I miss The Denver Grill, it rocked. One of the best grease burgers around. Coca Cola mixer was tuned towards the rich side. Great collection of movie memorabilia in that place.
Menu was a bit on the high salt / fat side, but sure was tasty.
Tom the Bondsman's famous wooden Phone Booth Office was a staple in the corner.
Restroom was out back, had hot water soap and hand towels. Used it to wash up before lunch many times my self.
Drove past the original Ron's Hamburger Stand #1 on East 15th Street and noticed it had been Demolished. Lots of Tulsa memories lost there. Mazeppa, Teddy Jack Eddy, Ron with his quadzilla friggin' hot peppers he brought back from Mexico! Ron said he paid $40.00 an ounce for them. Dude that ate two of those peppers crushed up on his chili, never forget how much that guy was sweating, when he turned bright red!!!
I thought they were gona have to call EMSA for him!
Trying to find a place to park, then standing along the wall waiting for a giant Ron's hamburger and some great conversation on one of the bar stools.
Sad that many of the kids today won't be able to vist some of the great places in Tulsa history and relive some of the stories.
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Vision 2025 Posted - 08/13/2008 : 10:31:14
At one point, I believe, there was a recommendation from the designers to go with no-flush urinals... At first these sound gross but are actually very effective and in my observation are not at all offensive when properly maintained. EXPO has installed them in the new Central Park Hall as a test and so far operations are very pleased with the installation.
Joe Momma's Downtown location will feature........One no-flush urinal.
How very green of us.
Don't all rush to the restroom at once, fellas!
Not flushing never felt so good.
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Originally posted by AMP
Drove past the original Ron's Hamburger Stand #1 on East 15th Street and noticed it had been Demolished. Lots of Tulsa memories lost there.
There was a fire there, started by a vagrant. Killed him. Damage to the place was pretty extensive.
When I have a choice I use Porta Johns at events I produce. They don't overflow, don't get stopped up, stay resonably clean, continue to work with a small or large crowd. Don't care how much toiet paper or what else folks decide throw down em.
May be a bit heavy on the aroma side when the temps are in the 100 plus range LOL, and the Air Conditioning doesn't work worth a dang.
But our staff and facility management don't have to deal with them, so that is a giant plus. Dude with the truck comes by once or more a day and deals with them for a minimal fee.
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Worse problem we had in the past 10 years was when some kids sucked up the treated water into their Super Soakers and sprayed some un-suspecting passer-bys. As the late Jim Varney would say EEEEWWWWWWWWW!
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