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Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: bokworker on August 08, 2008, 03:11:18 PM
Appears John was not completely honest..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080808/ap_on_el_pr/edwards_affair
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Gaspar on August 08, 2008, 03:21:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by bokworker

Appears John was not completely honest..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080808/ap_on_el_pr/edwards_affair



The Poodle in heat!
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: waterboy on August 08, 2008, 06:48:09 PM
When it comes to politics, there's a lot of thinking with the smaller head. Occupational disease.
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: StanOU on August 09, 2008, 10:16:53 PM
Here is my blog entry on the subject:

http://blogs.delphiforums.com/OptionLeft (//%22http://%22)

The infidelity of John Edwards.

Posted by StanOU

So John Edwards is the latest to disclose his marital infidelity.  Although this sort of thing is very disappointing to some, at the end of the day is it really anybody else's business?  Moreover, did Mr. Edwards and Ms. Hunter, through their private actions with each other, transgress any state or federal statutes?  

On the larger stage of high profile public figures recently scrutinized for moral, ethical or legal lapses, Mr. Edwards takes his place with other fellow Democrats such as the likes of former New York governor Eliot Spitzer, former New Jersey governor James McGreevey, and former Oklahoma state auditor and recently convicted Jeff McMahan.  

It is so disappointing when high profile Democrats let down those they serve through their own moral and/or legal character failures.  As a Democrat I cannot begin to express my level of disappointment in these leaders but hey, things happen, life goes on and the World continues to turn.

That said, I am forever grateful to not be a Republican.  You know, the GOP, the party whose righteous swagger exudes some sort of monopoly on morality, or so they would like to believe.  Those three Democrats I placed in league with John Edwards (who thus far has not been charged with a crime) are three I could think of off the top of my head dating back to 2004.  The number of Republicans with duly noted ethical/moral/legal problems over the past ten years however requires its own website:

http://www.republicanoffenders.com/ (//%22http://%22)

You have to admit the length of that list of Republicans is pretty impressive by any reasonable standard.  Also bear in mind this list is not one of rank and file party members but Republicans in elected or leadership positions.  And review this editor's note:

Editor's Note:

Why don't you provide a list of Democratic offenders?

My reason for creating the site was simply to refute Republican claims that
Democrats are inherently corrupt.   For instance, when Governor Spitzer was
exposed as a hypocrite by spending thousands on prostitutes, Democrats can
point to Richard A. Dasen   While Spitzer may have spent thousands, Dasen
spent $5 million, mostly on drug users.

I promise, if you're a Republican, you don't want a list of Democratic
Offenders.   Without it you are able to protest a valid point.  I agree, without
a comparable list, there's no comprehensive way to judge.  I prefer the list to
speak for itself.  These are prominent Republicans.  I did not make a list of
every republican criminal.  These are the leaders of the Republican party.

During my research the Justice Department provided a great resource for all
federal offenders and I could easily observe that prominent Republicans
produce 3 to 5 times more federal indictments than Dems.  It may be higher.  
But that's not the embarrassing part for conservatives.  So far, I have only
found a few prominent democrats that are pedophiles.  It's a huge
discrepancy.   If I had enough time to research specific clergymen and
examine their political affiliations, the numbers of republican pedophiles
would skyrocket.  If you haven't looked into clergy and sexual abuse, do a
few dozen google searches and take the time to open your eyes to the
problem. It's not just the Catholic church.  

Even a short poll of prominent sexual deviants shows a strikingly large
number of Republicans of all religious denomination breaking the law.  If you
doubt me, please, by all means, do the research yourself.  It's not difficult.  I
did all of my work with Google and caffeine.

It's important to note what was left out of this list.  I restricted the immorality
of Republicans to legalities.  If I spent time trying to catalogue Republican
hypocrisy, I don't think I could finish in this lifetime.  There are several lists
available on the internet that are horrifying to read.  Personal conduct by
these "family values" conservatives defines the word hypocrite.  Don't
believe me? Do a google search for yourself.  It will be good for you.  It
builds character.
 



So as you can all see, the Democrats don't seem quite so bad.  I mean what is up with FIVE PAGES of pedophiles?!?  

So long as we have to select candidates from the ranks of the human race we are going to have candidates with human flaws.  But when you wrap yourself in the cloak of piety and proclaim yourself the defender of the nation's morals you had best become a shining example of what you preach or suffer consequences worse than defeat at the ballot box:  loss of ALL credibility.  

Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Red Arrow on August 09, 2008, 10:44:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by StanOU
[
So as you can all see, the Democrats don't seem quite so bad.  



I must admit that Democrats are much better at not getting caught doing naughty things.
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: StanOU on August 09, 2008, 11:02:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow

quote:
Originally posted by StanOU
[
So as you can all see, the Democrats don't seem quite so bad.  



I must admit that Democrats are much better at not getting caught doing naughty things.



That still doesn't explain why the Repubs have a disproportionate number of pedophiles.  

Seriously, what is it about being a Republican turns a person into a pervert?!?
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Red Arrow on August 10, 2008, 01:25:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by StanOU

That still doesn't explain why the Repubs have a disproportionate number of pedophiles.  


Sure it does, the democrats just haven't gotten caught as often so the public doesn't know about them.  

I have great faith that all political parties have essentially equal representation regarding perverts, con-persons, crooks etc.
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Hoss on August 10, 2008, 01:28:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow

quote:
Originally posted by StanOU

That still doesn't explain why the Repubs have a disproportionate number of pedophiles.  


Sure it does, the democrats just haven't gotten caught as often so the public doesn't know about them.  

I have great faith that all political parties have essentially equal representation regarding perverts, con-persons, crooks etc.



Either that or the Repugs are too stupid to conceal it.  That actually makes more sense.  [:O]
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Red Arrow on August 10, 2008, 01:36:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

Either that or the Repugs are too stupid to conceal it.  That actually makes more sense.  [:O]



Coin toss:

Rep:  "too stupid to conceal it"
Dem:  "we are good at concealing illegal and immoral activities"

Can't win either way.
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: StanOU on August 10, 2008, 01:49:58 PM
quote:
____________________________________
Originally posted by Red Arrow:
"Sure it does, the democrats just haven't gotten caught as often so the public doesn't know about them."
_____________________________________

Okay Red Arrow, prove it.  

As you can see from the work done at
RepublicanOffenders.com, your assertion doesn't stand up.  

What the hell is up with FIVE PAGES of GOP pedophiles!  And those are not rank and file GOPers, those are high profile party members.

Go see if you can find that many Dems to match it.  The guy who runs RepublicanOffenders.com already did and couldn't.  As he said, do your own Google search.  It builds character.
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Hoss on August 10, 2008, 02:13:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow

quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

Either that or the Repugs are too stupid to conceal it.  That actually makes more sense.  [:O]



Coin toss:

Rep:  "too stupid to conceal it"
Dem:  "we are good at concealing illegal and immoral activities"

Can't win either way.



Actually, yes you can.  If no one knows about it if you're concealing, then they've won.  Do I agree with it?  No.  But it's human nature.  Don't get caught with your hand in the cookie jar.  The Repubs have a bad track record with that, and I'm not talking about just moral indiscretions.  I won't trot out Watergate.  [xx(]
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Red Arrow on August 10, 2008, 09:14:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by StanOU
Okay Red Arrow, prove it.  




See reply below which is essentially the same. There was a glitch that said my reply was't posted so I tried it again and got a message that flood control was on, no replys by the same poster within 30 seconds so I added to it and tried a while later.


Duh.  They haven't been caught. Obviously I cannot prove it. Your only proof otherwise is lack of public evidence. It is nearly impossible to prove that something does not exist. It only takes one example to prove that something does exist.

Your blind faith in the Democratic party is just as bad as Republican blind faith.  Both are.... blind.

Please note that I am not saying that some noteworthy Republicans have not been caught doing downright stupid things.  All I am saying is that it is not a Republican monopoly.  

I don't have specific pedophile examples.  General corruption and less than honorable actions abound in both parties.  Tamany Hall in NYC was, I believe, Democrats.  Chicago and the Daly (sp?) dynasty was legend. I think that is where the saying "vote early, vote often" originated but I cannot prove it.  Whether it was over hyped by Republicans or not, the Clinton administration was not without flaws.  And I really don't care about Monica.

Get off your high horse, both parties are about the same when it comes to less than honorable people.
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Red Arrow on August 10, 2008, 09:29:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by StanOU
Okay Red Arrow, prove it.  




Duh.  They haven't been caught. Obviously I cannot prove it. Your only proof otherwise is lack of public evidence. It is nearly impossible to prove that something does not exist. It only takes one example to prove that something does exist.

Your blind faith in the Democratic party is just as bad as Republican blind faith.  Both are.... blind.

Please note that I am not saying that some noteworthy Republicans have not been caught doing downright stupid things.  All I am saying is that it is not a Republican monopoly.  

I don't have specific pedophile examples.  General corruption and less than honorable actions abound in both parties.  Tamany Hall in NYC was, I believe, Democrats.  Chicago and the Daly (sp?) dynasty was legend. I think that is where the saying "vote early, vote often" originated but I cannot prove it.  Whether it was over hyped by Republicans or not, the Clinton administration was not without flaws.  And I really don't care about Monica. Ted Kennedy will always have a question about his actions with Koepecnik (sp?). The others in his extended family have also made the news at various times with questionable behavior. It seems to me that before LBJ turned the south Republican, the most racist governors were Democrats. I am thinking about George Wallace in particular.

Get off your high horse, both parties are about the same when it comes to less than honorable people.  If you restrict your definitions and time frames sufficiently, either party can be made to be the evil one.  Hey, it's politics.
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: StanOU on August 10, 2008, 09:32:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow

quote:
Originally posted by StanOU
Okay Red Arrow, prove it.  




Duh.  They haven't been caught. Obviously I cannot prove it. Your only proof otherwise is lack of public evidence. It is nearly impossible to prove that something does not exist. It only takes one example to prove that something does exist.

Your blind faith in the Democratic party is just as bad as Republican blind faith.  Both are.... blind.

Please note that I am not saying that some noteworthy Republicans have not been caught doing downright stupid things.  All I am saying is that it is not a Republican monopoly.  

I don't have specific pedophile examples.  General corruption and less than honorable actions abound in both parties.  Tamany Hall in NYC was, I believe, Democrats.  Chicago and the Daly (sp?) dynasty was legend. I think that is where the saying "vote early, vote often" originated but I cannot prove it.  Whether it was over hyped by Republicans or not, the Clinton administration was not without flaws.  And I really don't care about Monica.

Get off your high horse, both parties are about the same when it comes to less than honorable people.



"Obviously I cannot prove it."

I didn't think so.

"Chicago and the Daly (sp?) dynasty was legend. I think that is where the saying "vote early, vote often" originated but I cannot prove it."

I have heard that all my life but none other than the Gonzales DoJ proved that voter fraud was an ultraminor crime wave, like 38 cases in three years, but that is another story.

"All I am saying is that it is not a Republican monopoly."

I don't remember asserting it was, but when you proclaim yourself the party of "family values" you better promote better examples than what we are seeing.  

Back to RepublicanOffenders.com.  There you have demonstrable evidence that the GOP, the party that "threw the rascals out" in 1994 was no troop of boy scouts.  One thing I've heard numerous GOPers grouse about is how there needs to be profiling of Middle Easterners and Muslims.  Judging by FIVE PAGES of GOP pedophiles, any card carrying GOP white Christian male is a suspect pedophile!  Profile that!!!
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: FOTD on August 10, 2008, 10:52:11 PM
Ann Coulter is a deadhead...a little devilette!

http://www.tulsanow.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10962

Maureen is the real deal!
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Red Arrow on August 10, 2008, 10:52:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by StanOU
[
"Obviously I cannot prove it."

I didn't think so.

Can you prove there are no Democrats involved in immoral or illegal activities?  Proof they haven't, not lack of evidence they have.

"Chicago and the Daly (sp?) dynasty was legend. I think that is where the saying "vote early, vote often" originated but I cannot prove it."

I have heard that all my life but none other than the Gonzales DoJ proved that voter fraud was an ultraminor crime wave, like 38 cases in three years, but that is another story.

Voter fraud. Nah, no big deal. We don't care about that. Unless, of course, it might cause Algore to lose Florida.

"All I am saying is that it is not a Republican monopoly."

I don't remember asserting it was, but when you proclaim yourself the party of "family values" you better promote better examples than what we are seeing.  

In some cases, I must agree. I resent the hijacking of the Republican party by the holier than thou crowd.

I also think that the Democrats presenting themselves as the party of the common working person is just as wrong.  Personal opinion, but not mine alone: Policies of the Democratic party concerning raising the poor to middle class have not worked.  We have had the Great Society and its decendents since the 1960s. Give outs don't do anything except keep the givers in office and the lower classed dependent on the givers.


Back to RepublicanOffenders.com.  

I find some of the statements in why there is on Democratic Offenders List to be self serving. No big surprise there.

There you have demonstrable evidence that the GOP, the party that "threw the rascals out" in 1994 was no troop of boy scouts.

Gotta agree there. Doesn't mean they still weren't better than the rascals they threw out.

One thing I've heard numerous GOPers grouse about is how there needs to be profiling of Middle Easterners and Muslims.  

This is America, we can't do that regardless of how effective it has been in Israel.

Judging by FIVE PAGES of GOP pedophiles, any card carrying GOP white Christian male is a suspect pedophile!  Profile that!!!

5 pages of GOP white Christian (or otherwise) males in the US.  What is the percentage of pedophiles to normal pesons?  

RepublicanOffenders.com stated that he didn't make a list of Democratic offenders because he was trying to make a point about the Republican party and that the list should stand alone.  He made his point. There are a few bad Republicans. The implication is that the Democrats' list would be miniscule by comparison. Bring on the list.  Are you afraid to compare? Neither party is a paragon of virtue.

Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Red Arrow on August 10, 2008, 11:23:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

Actually, yes you can.  If no one knows about it if you're concealing, then they've won.

A person who is a criminal but doesn't get caught has still caused harm. "He" has won but society gets hosed.

Don't get caught with your hand in the cookie jar.  The Repubs have a bad track record with that

Recently, yes. Over time I believe both parties have had their share of problems.

I won't trot out Watergate.  [xx(]

I'm sure the democrats have never done anything even remotely comparable to the Watergate break-in. [:D] I have to admit that Nixon was not entirely intellegent in adding to the coverup. Knowing what I know now compared to when the election was held.... I still would have voted for Nixon, as I did then.  



I try to vote for the candidate, not the party. I have voted for some democrats.  David Boren for Senate in particular was a good choice.  I am often not thrilled with the candidates the Republican party has offered.  I am less thrilled with what the Democratic party has offered.  Voting Republican in Oklahoma usually gives you the right to complain about the person in office because you lost the election but you exercised your right to vote.  If "you people" could come up with a candidate that had some sound policy that wasn't wealth redistribution, I could probably vote democratic a few more times.
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Conan71 on August 11, 2008, 09:00:02 AM
OMG!!! Five pages of pedophiles...oh, the horror!  That adds up to about 60 people from what I read.  Most of these people are political nobodies.  What's next?  A list of every republican suspected of masturbating?

Identifying them in this light tries to make sexual mental illness sound like the result of political party affiliation.  It's a serious problem and your little hit job web sites do nothing but make light of serious societal ills.

So some narcissistic blogger decides to post a list of GOP slime.  Most of the people listed are campaign operatives, aldermen in places like "Wrightsville", or preachers registered with the GOP party.  That is bottom of the barrel when it comes to partisan stupidity.  

Demand accountability and ethical standards out of every elected official.  This stupid tit-for-tat gaming when a GOP or Dem falls publicly amounts to stupid playground taunting.  

Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: RecycleMichael on August 11, 2008, 09:45:01 AM
I think active republicans are more likely to engage in hidden deviant behavior than democrats. It is because they want to appear more conservative to society, yet can't oppress these desires. Democrats have just as many deviants, they just don't get involved in politics.

It also is more newsworthy when it is a republican because of their conservative agenda. Many of the accused of being gay have sponsored anti-gay legislation in their past.

Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: FOTD on August 11, 2008, 11:06:10 AM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I think active republicans are more likely to engage in hidden deviant behavior than democrats. It is because they want to appear more conservative to society, yet can't oppress these desires. Democrats have just as many deviants, they just don't get involved in politics.

It also is more newsworthy when it is a republican because of their conservative agenda. Many of the accused of being gay have sponsored anti-gay legislation in their past.





BINGO!!!
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Conan71 on August 11, 2008, 11:15:37 AM
Pointing to fallen Republicans when something like this happens to a beloved Democrat is nothing more than twisted self-justification.

We need to expect more out of all leaders, regardless of party affiliation.  I'm assessing a 15 yard penalty to StanOU for "piling on".  [}:)] I mean, really, let's throw in a bunch of preachers and low-level GOP party operatives to justify Edwards twisting off on his wife while she's suffering from cancer.

Edwards is a POS and a dude.  Two Americas indeed, his and everyone else's.


Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: FOTD on August 11, 2008, 11:28:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Pointing to fallen Republicans when something like this happens to a beloved Democrat is nothing more than twisted self-justification.

We need to expect more out of all leaders, regardless of party affiliation.  I'm assessing a 15 yard penalty to StanOU for "piling on".  [}:)] I mean, really, let's throw in a bunch of preachers and low-level GOP party operatives to justify Edwards twisting off on his wife while she's suffering from cancer.

Edwards is a POS and a dude.  Two Americas indeed, his and everyone else's.






Two Americas? We are all narcs!
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: FOTD on August 11, 2008, 11:35:30 AM
"You know it's gonna get stranger, some things we just know...."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5546813&page=1
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Crash Daily on August 11, 2008, 01:52:56 PM
Since we're going down this "finger pointing" path, why do you think Democrats want to give prison inmates the right to vote? Most CRIMINALS either were registered Democrats or would vote Democrat if having the opportunity. Not surprising, the Republican Party has extreme sects and creeps that do stupid things, but our entire Party isn't a bunch of morally relativistic criminals looking to legalize all criminal acts, INCLUDING pedophilia.
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Hoss on August 11, 2008, 02:10:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Crash Daily

Since we're going down this "finger pointing" path, why do you think Democrats want to give prison inmates the right to vote? Most CRIMINALS either were registered Democrats or would vote Democrat if having the opportunity. Not surprising, the Republican Party has extreme sects and creeps that do stupid things, but our entire Party isn't a bunch of morally relativistic criminals looking to legalize all criminal acts, INCLUDING pedophilia.



(http://apublicdefender.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/kool-aidman.jpg)
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: we vs us on August 11, 2008, 03:05:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by Crash Daily

Since we're going down this "finger pointing" path, why do you think Democrats want to give prison inmates the right to vote? Most CRIMINALS either were registered Democrats or would vote Democrat if having the opportunity. Not surprising, the Republican Party has extreme sects and creeps that do stupid things, but our entire Party isn't a bunch of morally relativistic criminals looking to legalize all criminal acts, INCLUDING pedophilia.



(http://apublicdefender.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/kool-aidman.jpg)



Exceptional use of the Kool Aid Guy, Hoss.

*doffs cap
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: RecycleMichael on August 11, 2008, 03:16:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Crash Daily
Most CRIMINALS either were registered Democrats or would vote Democrat if having the opportunity.


Please show proof of this statement. Ann Coulter and Trent Lott tried saying this line a few years ago and were soundly discredited. The only correlation was that African Americans were mostly democrats and were also more than twice as likely to be arrested and convicted than whites.

Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: StanOU on August 11, 2008, 05:09:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Pointing to fallen Republicans when something like this happens to a beloved Democrat is nothing more than twisted self-justification.

We need to expect more out of all leaders, regardless of party affiliation.  I'm assessing a 15 yard penalty to StanOU for "piling on".  [}:)] I mean, really, let's throw in a bunch of preachers and low-level GOP party operatives to justify Edwards twisting off on his wife while she's suffering from cancer.

Edwards is a POS and a dude.  Two Americas indeed, his and everyone else's.


Don't forget the GOP is supposedly the party of "family values" and those sixty pedophiles are high profile party members.  I don't think you would like to see a list of ALL GOP sex criminals.  The pious self-righteousness of your party dictates the tacit message that Dems are inherently evil/corrupt/deviant/what have you and the GOP can do no wrong.  Well guess what my friend, IT CAN!  That is the whole point of republicanoffenders.com.  I in no way, shape or form approve of Edwards' public infidelity however, to my knowledge he has NOT committed a state or federal crime.  You can't say that about those five pages of fellow Repubs.  

You think I'm piling on?  Just wait.  We'll cut open that GOP cloak of piety and let out ALL the rats.
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Hoss on August 11, 2008, 07:00:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by Crash Daily
Most CRIMINALS either were registered Democrats or would vote Democrat if having the opportunity.


Please show proof of this statement. Ann Coulter and Trent Lott tried saying this line a few years ago and were soundly discredited. The only correlation was that African Americans were mostly democrats and were also more than twice as likely to be arrested and convicted than whites.





You know the poster won't, RM.  I've seen the MO.  Pretty much drive-bys if you harp on anything right-leaning.  The drive-bys are usually to blast anything that leans to the left.

[B)]
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Red Arrow on August 11, 2008, 07:34:01 PM
Looks like everyone has their mind made up.
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: we vs us on August 11, 2008, 10:35:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow

Looks like everyone has their mind made up.



We've had almost 8 years to weigh the pros and cons, and there're really been a wealth of data points to sift through. I'd be a little surprised if you DIDN'T have an idea of where you stood.
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Conan71 on August 11, 2008, 10:46:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by StanOU

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Pointing to fallen Republicans when something like this happens to a beloved Democrat is nothing more than twisted self-justification.

We need to expect more out of all leaders, regardless of party affiliation.  I'm assessing a 15 yard penalty to StanOU for "piling on".  [}:)] I mean, really, let's throw in a bunch of preachers and low-level GOP party operatives to justify Edwards twisting off on his wife while she's suffering from cancer.

Edwards is a POS and a dude.  Two Americas indeed, his and everyone else's.


Don't forget the GOP is supposedly the party of "family values" and those sixty pedophiles are high profile party members.  I don't think you would like to see a list of ALL GOP sex criminals.  The pious self-righteousness of your party dictates the tacit message that Dems are inherently evil/corrupt/deviant/what have you and the GOP can do no wrong.  Well guess what my friend, IT CAN!  That is the whole point of republicanoffenders.com.  I in no way, shape or form approve of Edwards' public infidelity however, to my knowledge he has NOT committed a state or federal crime.  You can't say that about those five pages of fellow Repubs.  

You think I'm piling on?  Just wait.  We'll cut open that GOP cloak of piety and let out ALL the rats.



High profile???

Republican candidate for Mineral County Commission, W.VA, Wilton Frederick Bland

The Republican Mayor of Collins Missouri, and Pastor of the Temple Lot Church in Collins, Allen D. Kauffman

Well connected Republican activist and
Congressional aide, Jeffrey Nielsen

Republican and U.S. Attorney from Florida, John David R. Atchison

Republican Paul Skiles and Republican William Gillin...Gillin, a college administrator, and Skiles, who owns a Christian bookstore... Gee they left out co-defendant Jeffrey Haire, a former UPJ police officer... he must be a Democrat. (other than being registered Republicans, there is no mention they even have anything to do with elected office or party politics)

A bunch of county commissioners, election board workers, an HR person for the Washington Times.

Hardly prominent Republicans.  I've been registered in the GOP party since 1984 and cannot say I recognize a single name from the "five pages".  If they are prominent, then they aren't around my 'hood.

Even though you use the logic of Edwards not breaking any laws as making him somehow better, it's also escaped you that some of the people you label as "pedophiles" have been charged and not convicted of anything yet.  

Child molesters are the worst of the worst and don't deserve a break.  You are making light of a severe societal ill as being some sort of partisan political issue, to promote your own agenda and it's sick.  Finding any glee in a Republican being labeled "pedophile" is perverse in itself, especially since you have an agenda you are peddling here.

There are lists of all the Democrat deviants out there, but there's no point in posting it.  Why?  Because we should demand better morals out of all our leaders.  Party affiliation is no excuse, nor cause for moral failings.

Why don't you keep your twisted logic on your narcissistic little blog (why do you think anyone would anyone care why you flipped from an Ind. to Dem enough for you to create a blog devoted to it?) and spare the thinking people on this forum your partisan hack clap trap.

Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: StanOU on August 11, 2008, 11:30:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by StanOU

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Pointing to fallen Republicans when something like this happens to a beloved Democrat is nothing more than twisted self-justification.

We need to expect more out of all leaders, regardless of party affiliation.  I'm assessing a 15 yard penalty to StanOU for "piling on".  [}:)] I mean, really, let's throw in a bunch of preachers and low-level GOP party operatives to justify Edwards twisting off on his wife while she's suffering from cancer.

Edwards is a POS and a dude.  Two Americas indeed, his and everyone else's.


Don't forget the GOP is supposedly the party of "family values" and those sixty pedophiles are high profile party members.  I don't think you would like to see a list of ALL GOP sex criminals.  The pious self-righteousness of your party dictates the tacit message that Dems are inherently evil/corrupt/deviant/what have you and the GOP can do no wrong.  Well guess what my friend, IT CAN!  That is the whole point of republicanoffenders.com.  I in no way, shape or form approve of Edwards' public infidelity however, to my knowledge he has NOT committed a state or federal crime.  You can't say that about those five pages of fellow Repubs.  

You think I'm piling on?  Just wait.  We'll cut open that GOP cloak of piety and let out ALL the rats.



High profile???

Republican candidate for Mineral County Commission, W.VA, Wilton Frederick Bland

The Republican Mayor of Collins Missouri, and Pastor of the Temple Lot Church in Collins, Allen D. Kauffman

Well connected Republican activist and
Congressional aide, Jeffrey Nielsen

Republican and U.S. Attorney from Florida, John David R. Atchison

Republican Paul Skiles and Republican William Gillin...Gillin, a college administrator, and Skiles, who owns a Christian bookstore... Gee they left out co-defendant Jeffrey Haire, a former UPJ police officer... he must be a Democrat. (other than being registered Republicans, there is no mention they even have anything to do with elected office or party politics)

A bunch of county commissioners, election board workers, an HR person for the Washington Times.

Hardly prominent Republicans.  I've been registered in the GOP party since 1984 and cannot say I recognize a single name from the "five pages".  If they are prominent, then they aren't around my 'hood.

Even though you use the logic of Edwards not breaking any laws as making him somehow better, it's also escaped you that some of the people you label as "pedophiles" have been charged and not convicted of anything yet.  

Child molesters are the worst of the worst and don't deserve a break.  You are making light of a severe societal ill as being some sort of partisan political issue, to promote your own agenda and it's sick.  Finding any glee in a Republican being labeled "pedophile" is perverse in itself, especially since you have an agenda you are peddling here.

There are lists of all the Democrat deviants out there, but there's no point in posting it.  Why?  Because we should demand better morals out of all our leaders.  Party affiliation is no excuse, nor cause for moral failings.

Why don't you keep your twisted logic on your narcissistic little blog (why do you think anyone would anyone care why you flipped from an Ind. to Dem enough for you to create a blog devoted to it?) and spare the thinking people on this forum your partisan hack clap trap.


High profile meaning leaders/activists at levels higher than rank and file members.  

I can understand why this upsets you because it is in your face and not going away.  Spin it however you please and while you're writhing in the ecstacy of yet another morally discredited Democrat like Edwards just remember the GOP crap is piling up by the week (don't forget Ted Stevens).  

I usually don't post stuff from my blog on other boards but I've been waiting for an opportunity like this just so I can watch a partisan idiot like you throw a world class hissyfit!  Good job, BTW. [:D]
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: FOTD on August 12, 2008, 12:49:57 AM
Media Go Wild Over Edwards' Infidelities, But Continue to Ignore Those of McCain

http://www.skeeterbitesreport.com/2008/08/media-go-wild-over-edwards-infidelities.html

"Carol Shepp McCain, former wife of Republican presidential nominee-elect John McCain, emerges from her car near her home in Virginia Beach, Virginia, The Arizona senator's ex, now 70, stayed faithful to him throughout his ordeal as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. But after she was severely injured -- and disfigured -- in a 1969 car crash, the man who's now running for president carried on a series of extramarital affairs."
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Red Arrow on August 12, 2008, 07:47:45 AM
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Originally posted by we vs us

quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow

Looks like everyone has their mind made up.



We've had almost 8 years to weigh the pros and cons, and there're really been a wealth of data points to sift through. I'd be a little surprised if you DIDN'T have an idea of where you stood.



I was thinking more along the line of "regardless of the facts".
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: Breadburner on August 12, 2008, 08:25:22 AM
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Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: MH2010 on August 12, 2008, 09:40:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by StanOU

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by StanOU

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Pointing to fallen Republicans when something like this happens to a beloved Democrat is nothing more than twisted self-justification.

We need to expect more out of all leaders, regardless of party affiliation.  I'm assessing a 15 yard penalty to StanOU for "piling on".  [}:)] I mean, really, let's throw in a bunch of preachers and low-level GOP party operatives to justify Edwards twisting off on his wife while she's suffering from cancer.

Edwards is a POS and a dude.  Two Americas indeed, his and everyone else's.


Don't forget the GOP is supposedly the party of "family values" and those sixty pedophiles are high profile party members.  I don't think you would like to see a list of ALL GOP sex criminals.  The pious self-righteousness of your party dictates the tacit message that Dems are inherently evil/corrupt/deviant/what have you and the GOP can do no wrong.  Well guess what my friend, IT CAN!  That is the whole point of republicanoffenders.com.  I in no way, shape or form approve of Edwards' public infidelity however, to my knowledge he has NOT committed a state or federal crime.  You can't say that about those five pages of fellow Repubs.  

You think I'm piling on?  Just wait.  We'll cut open that GOP cloak of piety and let out ALL the rats.



High profile???

Republican candidate for Mineral County Commission, W.VA, Wilton Frederick Bland

The Republican Mayor of Collins Missouri, and Pastor of the Temple Lot Church in Collins, Allen D. Kauffman

Well connected Republican activist and
Congressional aide, Jeffrey Nielsen

Republican and U.S. Attorney from Florida, John David R. Atchison

Republican Paul Skiles and Republican William Gillin...Gillin, a college administrator, and Skiles, who owns a Christian bookstore... Gee they left out co-defendant Jeffrey Haire, a former UPJ police officer... he must be a Democrat. (other than being registered Republicans, there is no mention they even have anything to do with elected office or party politics)

A bunch of county commissioners, election board workers, an HR person for the Washington Times.

Hardly prominent Republicans.  I've been registered in the GOP party since 1984 and cannot say I recognize a single name from the "five pages".  If they are prominent, then they aren't around my 'hood.

Even though you use the logic of Edwards not breaking any laws as making him somehow better, it's also escaped you that some of the people you label as "pedophiles" have been charged and not convicted of anything yet.  

Child molesters are the worst of the worst and don't deserve a break.  You are making light of a severe societal ill as being some sort of partisan political issue, to promote your own agenda and it's sick.  Finding any glee in a Republican being labeled "pedophile" is perverse in itself, especially since you have an agenda you are peddling here.

There are lists of all the Democrat deviants out there, but there's no point in posting it.  Why?  Because we should demand better morals out of all our leaders.  Party affiliation is no excuse, nor cause for moral failings.

Why don't you keep your twisted logic on your narcissistic little blog (why do you think anyone would anyone care why you flipped from an Ind. to Dem enough for you to create a blog devoted to it?) and spare the thinking people on this forum your partisan hack clap trap.


High profile meaning leaders/activists at levels higher than rank and file members.  

I can understand why this upsets you because it is in your face and not going away.  Spin it however you please and while you're writhing in the ecstacy of yet another morally discredited Democrat like Edwards just remember the GOP crap is piling up by the week (don't forget Ted Stevens).  

I usually don't post stuff from my blog on other boards but I've been waiting for an opportunity like this just so I can watch a partisan idiot like you throw a world class hissyfit!  Good job, BTW. [:D]



You've been waiting for this???!!!! You have actually been waiting for this moment????

Now you can show those mean republicans that you mean business! All of those people that picked on you in elementary, jr. high, high school and college. Surely, they were republicans and now you can have your revenge!

Wow. How does it feel to know that your life is now complete. You're life has just peaked on a message board. You should go back to your "blog". It loves you unconditionally.
Title: John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..
Post by: StanOU on August 12, 2008, 07:11:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MH2010

quote:
Originally posted by StanOU

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by StanOU

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Pointing to fallen Republicans when something like this happens to a beloved Democrat is nothing more than twisted self-justification.

We need to expect more out of all leaders, regardless of party affiliation.  I'm assessing a 15 yard penalty to StanOU for "piling on".  [}:)] I mean, really, let's throw in a bunch of preachers and low-level GOP party operatives to justify Edwards twisting off on his wife while she's suffering from cancer.

Edwards is a POS and a dude.  Two Americas indeed, his and everyone else's.


Don't forget the GOP is supposedly the party of "family values" and those sixty pedophiles are high profile party members.  I don't think you would like to see a list of ALL GOP sex criminals.  The pious self-righteousness of your party dictates the tacit message that Dems are inherently evil/corrupt/deviant/what have you and the GOP can do no wrong.  Well guess what my friend, IT CAN!  That is the whole point of republicanoffenders.com.  I in no way, shape or form approve of Edwards' public infidelity however, to my knowledge he has NOT committed a state or federal crime.  You can't say that about those five pages of fellow Repubs.  

You think I'm piling on?  Just wait.  We'll cut open that GOP cloak of piety and let out ALL the rats.



High profile???

Republican candidate for Mineral County Commission, W.VA, Wilton Frederick Bland

The Republican Mayor of Collins Missouri, and Pastor of the Temple Lot Church in Collins, Allen D. Kauffman

Well connected Republican activist and
Congressional aide, Jeffrey Nielsen

Republican and U.S. Attorney from Florida, John David R. Atchison

Republican Paul Skiles and Republican William Gillin...Gillin, a college administrator, and Skiles, who owns a Christian bookstore... Gee they left out co-defendant Jeffrey Haire, a former UPJ police officer... he must be a Democrat. (other than being registered Republicans, there is no mention they even have anything to do with elected office or party politics)

A bunch of county commissioners, election board workers, an HR person for the Washington Times.

Hardly prominent Republicans.  I've been registered in the GOP party since 1984 and cannot say I recognize a single name from the "five pages".  If they are prominent, then they aren't around my 'hood.

Even though you use the logic of Edwards not breaking any laws as making him somehow better, it's also escaped you that some of the people you label as "pedophiles" have been charged and not convicted of anything yet.  

Child molesters are the worst of the worst and don't deserve a break.  You are making light of a severe societal ill as being some sort of partisan political issue, to promote your own agenda and it's sick.  Finding any glee in a Republican being labeled "pedophile" is perverse in itself, especially since you have an agenda you are peddling here.

There are lists of all the Democrat deviants out there, but there's no point in posting it.  Why?  Because we should demand better morals out of all our leaders.  Party affiliation is no excuse, nor cause for moral failings.

Why don't you keep your twisted logic on your narcissistic little blog (why do you think anyone would anyone care why you flipped from an Ind. to Dem enough for you to create a blog devoted to it?) and spare the thinking people on this forum your partisan hack clap trap.


High profile meaning leaders/activists at levels higher than rank and file members.  

I can understand why this upsets you because it is in your face and not going away.  Spin it however you please and while you're writhing in the ecstacy of yet another morally discredited Democrat like Edwards just remember the GOP crap is piling up by the week (don't forget Ted Stevens).  

I usually don't post stuff from my blog on other boards but I've been waiting for an opportunity like this just so I can watch a partisan idiot like you throw a world class hissyfit!  Good job, BTW. [:D]



You've been waiting for this???!!!! You have actually been waiting for this moment????

Now you can show those mean republicans that you mean business! All of those people that picked on you in elementary, jr. high, high school and college. Surely, they were republicans and now you can have your revenge!

Wow. How does it feel to know that your life is now complete. You're life has just peaked on a message board. You should go back to your "blog". It loves you unconditionally.




Easy on the ad hominem attack there.  Apparently piling on will get you penalized 15 yards on this board.[:D]