"I want to see our party lead on the great moral issues — yes, me a Democrat using that word — the great moral issues that face our country," Edwards tells the crowd. "If we want to live in a moral, honest just America and if we want to live in a moral and just world, we can't wait for somebody else to do it. We have to do it."
Admits to an affair while his wife was stricken with cancer and paid over $100K from a PAC to his mistress' "company".
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/edwards_affair;_ylt=AsfZ4hIXOe3wpNB3o.2nEGVbbBAF
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Originally posted by Conan71
"I want to see our party lead on the great moral issues — yes, me a Democrat using that word — the great moral issues that face our country," Edwards tells the crowd. "If we want to live in a moral, honest just America and if we want to live in a moral and just world, we can't wait for somebody else to do it. We have to do it."
Admits to an affair while his wife was stricken with cancer and paid over $100K from a PAC to his mistress' "company".
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/edwards_affair;_ylt=AsfZ4hIXOe3wpNB3o.2nEGVbbBAF
This is awesome....can't wait for the juicy details to come out about Obama one of these days.
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Originally posted by Conan71
"I want to see our party lead on the great moral issues — yes, me a Democrat using that word — the great moral issues that face our country," Edwards tells the crowd. "If we want to live in a moral, honest just America and if we want to live in a moral and just world, we can't wait for somebody else to do it. We have to do it."
Admits to an affair while his wife was stricken with cancer and paid over $100K from a PAC to his mistress' "company".
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/edwards_affair;_ylt=AsfZ4hIXOe3wpNB3o.2nEGVbbBAF
This is awesome....can't wait for the juicy details to come out about Obama one of these days.
John Edwards...Another Bad Boy Douchebagocrat..
FOTD, did you see how I played with the name of the democrat party. I am soooo funny.
This should actually increase his popularity within the DNC.
Now, now, let's not forget about repukiclan Newt Gingrich. There's enough to get out of that well for both parties, believe me.
And it seems a sitting president weathered that storm also...
You know how we know John Edwards is a Democrat?
He was with a WOMAN
Here's the thing--any guy arrogant enough to think he is the best person to run the free world, probably has a pretty high regard for himself when it comes to women. I imagine that more affairs occur among politicians than with any other profession (save of course the oldest one). Republican or Democrat, I am sure that the vast majority of our country's leaders have slept around. And I can say without hesitation that I DON"T CARE. I don't care who is sleeping with whom, and I really wish the media would just stop reporting it. Why is everyone so obsessed with other people's sex lives? Get a life.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Here's the thing--any guy arrogant enough to think he is the best person to run the free world, probably has a pretty high regard for himself when it comes to women. I imagine that more affairs occur among politicians than with any other profession (save of course the oldest one). Republican or Democrat, I am sure that the vast majority of our country's leaders have slept around. And I can say without hesitation that I DON"T CARE. I don't care who is sleeping with whom, and I really wish the media would just stop reporting it. Why is everyone so obsessed with other people's sex lives? Get a life.
word. It's really not relevant unless they've been running around telling everybody that they're going to hell for it or that its ruining our country.
Funny Swake. I looked at my wife and said, "At least the Democrats make news by sleeping with women". Edwards has now dropped to the level of a candidate who would leave a damaged wife for a rich younger one, just like McCain.
I am disappointed but not surprised. None of my business. Maybe Inteller can order some tapes though.
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Originally posted by swake
You know how we know John Edwards is a Democrat?
He was with a WOMAN
And Barney Frank and Jim McGreevy will back that up that point 100%!
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by swake
You know how we know John Edwards is a Democrat?
He was with a WOMAN
And Barney Frank and Jim McGreevy will back that up that point 100%!
Ouch! I HATE being reminded us Democrats have gay politicians! It just stings!
Er, wait. I forgot. Democrats pretty much don't care.
So, on topic:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the timeline seems to be: affair ends in early 2006. Edwards confesses to wife, family, and a few friends sometime in the middle of the year. And in late December of 06, declares his candidacy.
Not that he's not a dude, here -- 'cause of course he is -- but isn't it possible that by the time he's put himself up for election, the issue is, to those whom it matters most, water under the bridge?
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by swake
You know how we know John Edwards is a Democrat?
He was with a WOMAN
And Barney Frank and Jim McGreevy will back that up that point 100%!
Ouch! I HATE being reminded us Democrats have gay politicians! It just stings!
Er, wait. I forgot. Democrats pretty much don't care.
Speaking of stings, it sounds to me like ol' John got his stinger caught in the honey jar.
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Originally posted by unreliablesource
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by swake
You know how we know John Edwards is a Democrat?
He was with a WOMAN
And Barney Frank and Jim McGreevy will back that up that point 100%!
Ouch! I HATE being reminded us Democrats have gay politicians! It just stings!
Er, wait. I forgot. Democrats pretty much don't care.
Speaking of stings, it sounds to me like ol' John got his stinger caught in the honey jar.
Like McCain, or for that matter, Guiliani, was perfect when it comes to fidelity?
Like I said, plenty of that to go around both aisles....
They keep saying, "But he had the affair, THEN had the nerve to run for president."
Yup.
But so did good ole boy, John McCain. He had an affair with Cindy while still married to his first wife.
They say,"But he did it while his wife had cancer."
Yup.
But what good ole boy, Jon McCain did was almost as bad. His first wife had an almost fatal car accident while he was away that left her less than the beautiful model he originally married. So he had and affair and dumped her.
At least Edwards didn't dump his wife.
At least Edwards didn't make a mistake that took thousands of lives. I wonder what politican did that?
Hummm?
It does lower my opinion of Edwards. I was one of the founders of the Tulsa Chapter of the Edwards One Corps.
It disappoints me that he couldn't keep his pants up.
I felt the same way about former President Bill Clinton. If he only could have resisted the temptation for the years he was President, he could have gone down as one of the best ever.
We all have desires and clearly these two have much more opportunity to act on those desires than most of us. But fidelity should be expected of all married men and women. Anything else is disappointing.
I think it's really interesting that he went ahead with his primary run, even though he'd presumably JUST told his wife and family about the affair. He'd've had to have launched his candidacy with Elizabeth's full support -- which it's obvious he had -- even though he'd just told her about the affair. I'm not sure if that's a testament to the fundamental strength of their marriage or to the degree of their mutual ambition.
Also, why would you jump into the race knowing that this secret was so fresh and new? He had to know the level of media scrutiny he was in for. How do you NOT know someone's gonna sniff this one out?
The story is kind of baffling to me on a lot of levels. And the damnable thing about this is, I still like what he was saying during the primaries. He was making lots of important points about poverty in America, but this kinda blows the tires off of a lot of his once-and-future effectiveness as a progressive caped crusader.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
And I can say without hesitation that I DON"T CARE. I don't care who is sleeping with whom, and I really wish the media would just stop reporting it. Why is everyone so obsessed with other people's sex lives? Get a life.
I don't care about his sex life, but I care that what that action portrays. Unless it's an "open marriage" the guy is willing to lie to, cheat on, humiliate, degrade, and apparently thinks little of the one person he has promised to be faithful to. Should I expect any better?
You can't resist this temptation what other temptations will you succumb to, ones costing my nation?
You lied to your wife, but you are and will be honest with me?
If you're not loyal to your wife why would I assume you are loyal to anything at all?
He cheats on his dying wife, lies about it, makes amazingly hypocritical statements telling US to be moral people, and apparently for PAID his sex with political money... this says nothing about his character? None of that bothers you about an elected official?
If he was single and said "yeah, I have sex with all kinds of women." Fine, good for you buddy. But in this instance it's a simple matter of
integrity. And that's important to me. If you lack it, I will not vote for you (I realize that limits the political pool).
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by swake
You know how we know John Edwards is a Democrat?
He was with a WOMAN
And Barney Frank and Jim McGreevy will back that up that point 100%!
Ouch! I HATE being reminded us Democrats have gay politicians! It just stings!
Er, wait. I forgot. Democrats pretty much don't care.
I do not think Hoss and Swake's point was about "gay" politicians so much as it was about repubs being involved in homosexual scandals. That's why I named Frank and McGreevy--two dems involved in homosexual-related scandals.
Personally, I could care less about a person's sexual preference. I DO care, though, when people like Larry Craig and now former "father of the year" Edwards preach morality at us while behaving to the contrary.
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Originally posted by unreliablesource
Speaking of stings, it sounds to me like ol' John got his stinger caught in the honey jar.
Interesting metaphor, if not anatomically correct.
All worker honeybees (that produce honey and have stingers) are female.
The male honeybees (drones) do not have stingers and don't produce honey.
I know I'm being a killjoy, but the beekeeper in me couldn't resist ...
The female bees do all the work?
What do the male bees do? Watch sports, play poker, grill the food?
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
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Originally posted by pmcalk
And I can say without hesitation that I DON"T CARE. I don't care who is sleeping with whom, and I really wish the media would just stop reporting it. Why is everyone so obsessed with other people's sex lives? Get a life.
I don't care about his sex life, but I care that what that action portrays. Unless it's an "open marriage" the guy is willing to lie to, cheat on, humiliate, degrade, and apparently thinks little of the one person he has promised to be faithful to. Should I expect any better?
You can't resist this temptation what other temptations will you succumb to, ones costing my nation?
You lied to your wife, but you are and will be honest with me?
If you're not loyal to your wife why would I assume you are loyal to anything at all?
He cheats on his dying wife, lies about it, makes amazingly hypocritical statements telling US to be moral people, and apparently for PAID his sex with political money... this says nothing about his character? None of that bothers you about an elected official?
If he was single and said "yeah, I have sex with all kinds of women." Fine, good for you buddy. But in this instance it's a simple matter of integrity. And that's important to me. If you lack it, I will not vote for you (I realize that limits the political pool).
The only thing that really bothers me about it is the money that changed hands - very troubling. Whats between 2 married people should stay between them, and morality is subjective when it comes to sexual behavior. He will have to be judged by himself and his wife regarding the expectations of their marriage. I don't know if I can blame anybody for lies about sex in the public forum (its really nobody else's business).
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The female bees do all the work?
What do the male bees do? Watch sports, play poker, grill the food?
The only purpose the male bees (drones) have is to mate with the young queen bee when she's ready. After the one breeding, the queen lays eggs for the rest of her life.
Sounds like the drones have a cushy job ... until the rest of the bees kick the drones from the hive upon the onset of winter, where they perish. No sense in feeding a few hundred slacker bees when their services won't be needed anyway.
The bees sound just like us.
What do you call a musician who breaks up with his girlfriend?
Homeless.
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by swake
You know how we know John Edwards is a Democrat?
He was with a WOMAN
And Barney Frank and Jim McGreevy will back that up that point 100%!
Ouch! I HATE being reminded us Democrats have gay politicians! It just stings!
Er, wait. I forgot. Democrats pretty much don't care.
I do not think Hoss and Swake's point was about "gay" politicians so much as it was about repubs being involved in homosexual scandals. That's why I named Frank and McGreevy--two dems involved in homosexual-related scandals.
Personally, I could care less about a person's sexual preference. I DO care, though, when people like Larry Craig and now former "father of the year" Edwards preach morality at us while behaving to the contrary.
At least the 2 Dems you mentioned aren't trying to hide their sexuality.
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Originally posted by pmcalk
Here's the thing--any guy arrogant enough to think he is the best person to run the free world, probably has a pretty high regard for himself when it comes to women. I imagine that more affairs occur among politicians than with any other profession (save of course the oldest one). Republican or Democrat, I am sure that the vast majority of our country's leaders have slept around. And I can say without hesitation that I DON"T CARE. I don't care who is sleeping with whom, and I really wish the media would just stop reporting it. Why is everyone so obsessed with other people's sex lives? Get a life.
Well said- thanks.
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Originally posted by azbadpuppy
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by swake
You know how we know John Edwards is a Democrat?
He was with a WOMAN
And Barney Frank and Jim McGreevy will back that up that point 100%!
Ouch! I HATE being reminded us Democrats have gay politicians! It just stings!
Er, wait. I forgot. Democrats pretty much don't care.
I do not think Hoss and Swake's point was about "gay" politicians so much as it was about repubs being involved in homosexual scandals. That's why I named Frank and McGreevy--two dems involved in homosexual-related scandals.
Personally, I could care less about a person's sexual preference. I DO care, though, when people like Larry Craig and now former "father of the year" Edwards preach morality at us while behaving to the contrary.
At least the 2 Dems you mentioned aren't trying to hide their sexuality.
First, what in the hell is the point of that retort? Second, if you recall, McGreevy was in heterosexual marriage at the time he "came out". Sure sounds like he was hiding his sexual preference from at least one person--his wife.
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by azbadpuppy
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by swake
You know how we know John Edwards is a Democrat?
He was with a WOMAN
And Barney Frank and Jim McGreevy will back that up that point 100%!
Ouch! I HATE being reminded us Democrats have gay politicians! It just stings!
Er, wait. I forgot. Democrats pretty much don't care.
I do not think Hoss and Swake's point was about "gay" politicians so much as it was about repubs being involved in homosexual scandals. That's why I named Frank and McGreevy--two dems involved in homosexual-related scandals.
Personally, I could care less about a person's sexual preference. I DO care, though, when people like Larry Craig and now former "father of the year" Edwards preach morality at us while behaving to the contrary.
At least the 2 Dems you mentioned aren't trying to hide their sexuality.
First, what in the hell is the point of that retort? Second, if you recall, McGreevy was in heterosexual marriage at the time he "came out". Sure sounds like he was hiding his sexual preference from at least one person--his wife.
Sounds a little like Larry Craig, doesn't it?
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by azbadpuppy
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by we vs us
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Originally posted by guido911
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Originally posted by swake
You know how we know John Edwards is a Democrat?
He was with a WOMAN
And Barney Frank and Jim McGreevy will back that up that point 100%!
Ouch! I HATE being reminded us Democrats have gay politicians! It just stings!
Er, wait. I forgot. Democrats pretty much don't care.
I do not think Hoss and Swake's point was about "gay" politicians so much as it was about repubs being involved in homosexual scandals. That's why I named Frank and McGreevy--two dems involved in homosexual-related scandals.
Personally, I could care less about a person's sexual preference. I DO care, though, when people like Larry Craig and now former "father of the year" Edwards preach morality at us while behaving to the contrary.
At least the 2 Dems you mentioned aren't trying to hide their sexuality.
First, what in the hell is the point of that retort? Second, if you recall, McGreevy was in heterosexual marriage at the time he "came out". Sure sounds like he was hiding his sexual preference from at least one person--his wife.
I think the point was obvious, much like your obvious glee at the private misfortunes of the Edwards family.
McGreevy has come clean, and told the truth, as has Edwards.
Unlike Larry Craig, Bob Allen, Glenn Murphy, Ted Haggard, or Mark Foley to name a few. There is a difference.
Basically if you enjoy seeing Republicans destroyed by their own hypocrisy, it's been a very, very good past couple of years.
What's interesting is the canibalism of him in the media. "He's toast" "His political career is over" "He won't be at the Democratic Convention". He will be forgiven in the media in short order and future stories will likely mention the strength of the Edwards family through this crisis.
Personally, I think he ought to go to the convention. With this revelation, he's done as a potential VP candidate (not that he was under serious consideration).
I wasn't the least bit surprised that he'd been schtoinking someone other than his wife, just surprised he got caught. I seriously doubt this was his only affair. Pmcalk is correct Money, power, and infidelity seem to go hand-in-hand. Some people are just better at concealing it than others.
I'd had him pegged as a disingenous opportunist, this whole episode confirmed it.
Good lord people, it was a joke.