Okay folks I'm hoping for some legal input here on my most recent event in our area. Here's the breakdown.
1. Man breaks into my house while I'm at work. My wife and 4 kids are home.
2. Wife locks everyone into the bathroom while she calls the police.
3. Intruder throws things around, breaks things and causing and all around mess.
4. Police arrive and arrest the intruder still in the home.
5. I get home. Wife is insanely upset...beyond..whatever.
6. Police tell me over and over this is a criminal felony since he broke into a home while the home owner was there. I say great...he's lucky he's alive.
7. Fast forward to today. Neighbors tell us they saw him at DFest and Quick Trip at 11th and Utica.
8. We call the detective. he states he was only charged with a misdemeanor. He's out of jail after 2 days on bond.
Question: Is there anything we can do. Is this guy pretty much free to go? He has a court date but we're expecting him to get some easy probation. If intent decides felony or not...how is intent decided?
WOW! So sorry to hear about that but I'm glad your family is ok! I can't offer any legal advice but I'm interested to know how he got in? Was the door unlocked?
No. The deadbolt was in place..he just pushed it in. The door frame is always the first to go. She saw him trying to push it in and when it looked like he wasn't going to give up she rounded everyone up in the bathroom. She can't load my gun..it's a 35 year old .44 revolver passed down from my grandfather. She was just hoping he didn't want to say hi to anyone. Also, I omitted from my original post that the intruder was on some extremely serious drugs..
His story to the police was that he thought it was his house at 720 North Utica. Our house has a "7" in the address so that apparently was enough for him. You'd think he'd wonder why the door was locked.
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Originally posted by izmophonik
Okay folks I'm hoping for some legal input here on my most recent event in our area. Here's the breakdown.
1. Man breaks into my house while I'm at work. My wife and 4 kids are home.
2. Wife locks everyone into the bathroom while she calls the police.
3. Intruder throws things around, breaks things and causing and all around mess.
4. Police arrive and arrest the intruder still in the home.
5. I get home. Wife is insanely upset...beyond..whatever.
6. Police tell me over and over this is a criminal felony since he broke into a home while the home owner was there. I say great...he's lucky he's alive.
7. Fast forward to today. Neighbors tell us they saw him at DFest and Quick Trip at 11th and Utica.
8. We call the detective. he states he was only charged with a misdemeanor. He's out of jail after 2 days on bond.
Question: Is there anything we can do. Is this guy pretty much free to go? He has a court date but we're expecting him to get some easy probation. If intent decides felony or not...how is intent decided?
First thing you need to do is call the Tulsa County D.A.'s office instead of relying on accounts from your neighbors and the detective. Get the facts. Police don't file charges, prosecutors do.
The police don't charge anyone with a crime, so an officer telling you something is a felony doesn't make it so. All they do is hand over their investigation with recommendations to the prosecutor's office. Ultimately, the DA's office decides what laws are applicable, which aren't, and therefore what charges to file against the suspect. Several other things could have been examined, like prior record, whether a weapon was involved, etc.
If home invasion is not an out-and-out felony (sorry I don't have time to research it this afternoon) please do everyone else a favor and write a letter to your state representative and state senator and tell them exactly what happened.
Secondly, I don't know that I'd advocate keeping a loaded weapon in a house with four small children, but your wife would have been within her rights to have protected her and your kids by shooting the intruder and then you would not be going through the humiliation of learning that the criminal justice system frequently favors the criminal.
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Originally posted by izmophonik
His story to the police was that he thought it was his house at 720 North Utica. Our house has a "7" in the address so that apparently was enough for him. You'd think he'd wonder why the door was locked.
I think I remember hearing about this case, how long has it been?
I'm trying to get down to the bottom of it. I guess what I should have said is that the detective stated he was ultimately charged with a misdemeanor. I don't know if he means that was the D.A.'s charge or what.
Secondly, I wish I could keep a loaded gun in the house but it never is. I was stating that the gun isn't loaded and that the wife would have a hard time getting it loaded properly.
Lastly, the crime happened on July 25th I think.
In Oklahoma, breaking and entering by bursting through a locked door with the intent to commit a crime is burglary in the first degree. Burglary in the first degree is a felony punishable by 7 to 20 years in prison.
Okla. Stat. tit. 21, § 1431.
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Originally posted by Floyd
In Oklahoma, breaking and entering by bursting through a locked door with the intent to commit a crime is burglary in the first degree. Burglary in the first degree is a felony punishable by 7 to 20 years in prison.
Okla. Stat. tit. 21, § 1431.
Thank you. I think the possible issue here is whether or not he intended to commit any crime. He told police he was just hungry. In fact when he was arrested he was in my kitchen eating what would have been dinner for our family. The door WAS locked though.
Well in that case -
In Oklahoma, breaking and entering WITHOUT the intent to commit a crime is a misdemeanor.
Okla. Stat. tit. 21, § 1438(B).
Actually, since all the statute says is "with intent to commit a crime", then he has already admitted that he was entering with intent to commit a crime. He said he went in because he was hungry and then he actually commited the crime of theft by eating your food.
Felony.
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Originally posted by Floyd
Well in that case -
In Oklahoma, breaking and entering WITHOUT the intent to commit a crime is a misdemeanor.
Okla. Stat. tit. 21, § 1438(B).
Okay, that said and done.
1. Who determines intent?
2. If a man is high on drugs how can intent be determined other than obvious signs (i.e. gun or knife)?
3. What if he wanted sex and decided that it was easier to get a bowl of hamburger helper instead of breaking the bathroom door down to satisfy the munchies?
The whole "intent" thing seems to be a huge grey area. The bottom line is I want him prosecuted as a criminal felon and it doesn't appear at the moment that approach is possible due to lack of intent.
Regardless of the outcome of this issue: Everyone living in the Maple Park, Maple Ridge, Swan Lake, Tracy Park, NOCHE should be watching out for this man. He is in his 20's. He's a thin black man with a long and puffy afro. He is always spotted carrying a acoustic guitar wherever he goes. He claims to live in a house but is spotted frequently in neiborhoods and at the Quick Trip at 11th and Utica.
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Originally posted by izmophonik
Regardless of the outcome of this issue: Everyone living in the Maple Park, Maple Ridge, Swan Lake, Tracy Park, NOCHE should be watching out for this man. He is in his 20's. He's a thin black man with a long and puffy afro. He is always spotted carrying a acoustic guitar wherever he goes. He claims to live in a house but is spotted frequently in neiborhoods and at the Quick Trip at 11th and Utica.
Teach your wife how to use a firearm....
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Originally posted by izmophonik
Regardless of the outcome of this issue: Everyone living in the Maple Park, Maple Ridge, Swan Lake, Tracy Park, NOCHE should be watching out for this man. He is in his 20's. He's a thin black man with a long and puffy afro. He is always spotted carrying a acoustic guitar wherever he goes. He claims to live in a house but is spotted frequently in neiborhoods and at the Quick Trip at 11th and Utica.
If you want a better explaination, call the DA's office. You are pretty much going to get armchair speculation from us on here, even the attorneys, as none seem to practice criminal law.
The DA is responsible for prosecuting him. I'm guessing with all the cases which clear their office, they don't have the staffing to contact you and let you know the disposition. I would think you'd at least get a letter explaining the disposition.
This "intent" thing is disturbing. I'll just invade someone's home, claim I thought it was mine, so there is no intent. Holy ****!
Two opportunities to correct this:
1) Write your legislators as previously suggested. I think home invasion, regardless of circumstance should be a felony.
2) Let's try and draft a better opponent to Tim Harris in a couple of years. Woman, locked door, four kids, intruder on drugs, and it is a misdemeanor? Goes w/o saying, that could have ended very tragically. Part of prosecution is punishment, another part is deterrent to other potential criminals. What message does this send as a deterrent?
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Originally posted by Rico
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Originally posted by izmophonik
Regardless of the outcome of this issue: Everyone living in the Maple Park, Maple Ridge, Swan Lake, Tracy Park, NOCHE should be watching out for this man. He is in his 20's. He's a thin black man with a long and puffy afro. He is always spotted carrying a acoustic guitar wherever he goes. He claims to live in a house but is spotted frequently in neiborhoods and at the Quick Trip at 11th and Utica.
Teach your wife how to use a firearm....
And shoot to KILL. It's the only way to keep the "problem" from returning.
Please check with the DA, Conan is right, the police only prepare the reports, charges are filed by the DA. Push them for answers, feel free to contact Lori Fullbright, she loves this kind of stuff.
And agreed Conan, it is SOOOO time to get Tim Harris out of the DA's office. I could tell you stories for hours, although I am sure you have your share. He is not a public servant anymore. He drops charges tenfold to what he prosecutes. It's just sad.
I think he's had some good competition, but I don't see why he doesn't seem to lose.
Thanks for everyone's input. I will be calling the D.A.'s office tomorrow. ...and yes I will teach the wife to use a gun. [:)]
Right after the Kastner shooting, which, at first was advertised as a home invasion my significant other bought me a wonderful shotgun, took me to the gun club range, I went to Hunter Education. NOW, I'm totally comfortable with shooting someone's head off who kicks in my door. A shotgun is a wonderful thing. I'm sorry for anyone who really exeriences it. Be prepared, be a survivor!
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Originally posted by breitee
And shoot to KILL. It's the only way to keep the "problem" from returning.
Far a warning shot first . . .
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Originally posted by breitee
And shoot to KILL. It's the only way to keep the "problem" from returning.
Far a warning shot first . . .
Warning shots? We don't need no steenking warning shots!
Eh, according to Inteller, I'm just an "internet tough guy". What do I know?
Oh wow. So sorry to hear this happened. I used to live in Swan Lake, pretty much alone, because my roommate was always at her boyfriend's, and I can't imagine how frightened I would have been if this would have happened. Good luck with everything and keep us posted.
Izmo,
I'm very glad no one was hurt but this is going to affect your family for a long time though. We had a non-violent offender hop our 6' fence one day running from the police and our kids still don't like to be outside alone.
This guy sounds like he's a few hits away from seriously hurting somebody or himself - he needs to be off the street and it sounds like Harris's office is slacking.
Get the story from the DA and let all of us know what's going on here.
I'm not connected so I can't say it would help, but if you don't get a good answer, I'm going to make some phone calls to put what little pressure I can on Harris. There are other Tulsa citizens that read this forum who would do the same. Call your councilperson too.
This crap has to stop and it only will when we demand it. I get that resouces are limited, but thats a good reason to put people away before they do alot of damage.
Also in addition to Lori Fulbright, Joe Kelley or the new morning guy at KFAQ would most likely take an interest in this story. Shop it and see what happens. The new guy is trying to distance himself from "the previous host," and ending the Harris lovefest while standing up for a young family could be a good way to start.
You need to understand that the more people that know about this, the more likely this piece of debris will be taken off the streets and maybe get the help he needs.
To make sure no one else is put in the same position - or worse - you really need to push this one.
M
If you email the D.A. office you will receive an email back with .pdf's showing the latest laws and or rules pleaded by our liberal representatives [;)]
Police Officers do charge people that are arrested on crimes. They are booked and the officer charges them with the crime and the bond is set. They are given a court date to appear and enter a plea. Then the DA may amend, drop or add charges at a later date.
I will be calling the D.A. today. Here's what I know about this punk so far. He's been in trouble for a solid 18 months. His wrap sheet includes:
4/10/06 - Protective order filed
10/31/06 - 1st degree arson
10/31/06 - Malicious injury to property
12/04/06 - Peeing on an officer, resisting arrest, public drunk.
5/24/07 - public drunk.
12/25/07 - public drunk.
5/28/08 - DUI.
7/28/08 - Breaking and entering with unlawful intent in violation of 21 O.S. 1438. (filed as criminal misdemeanor)
www.myspace.com/killflesh
Shotguns make such a mess....use a 9mm with hollow points, just 9 rounds so you have one left if he tries to get up.
...and you get to see him dance, too.
How terrifying. I'm glad your family is safe!
If he had broken into my house while my wife and babies were home I don't believe he would fair very well.
My wife is quick with a .357. Keeps it loaded with 38+P rounds, because they are less likely to penetrate walls. They also mushroom on impact and shatter bones even if you're not the best shot (but she is).
I don't think she would shoot to kill. At least not at first. She would shoot him a few times in the extremities while yelling at him. Then she would ask him what he thought he was doing. Then before he could answer, she would deliver the final shot, check for a pulse, and repeat if necessary. She would then finish watching Dr. Phil and call the police.
Spend the $100 at Tulsa Firearms for a class for your wife. Teach your kids about any guns you have in the house, don't let them learn on their own.
Sounds like this guy was relatively harmless, but what about the next guy?
I will be calling the D.A. today. Here's what I know about this punk so far. He's been in trouble for a solid 18 months. His wrap sheet includes:
4/10/06 - Protective order filed
10/31/06 - 1st degree arson
10/31/06 - Malicious injury to property
12/04/06 - Peeing on an officer, resisting arrest, public drunk.
5/24/07 - public drunk.
12/25/07 - public drunk.
5/28/08 - DUI.
7/28/08 - Breaking and entering with unlawful intent in violation of 21 O.S. 1438. (filed as criminal misdemeanor)
Here's his myspace page.
www.myspace.com/killflesh
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Originally posted by izmophonik
I will be calling the D.A. today. Here's what I know about this punk so far. He's been in trouble for a solid 18 months. His wrap sheet includes:
4/10/06 - Protective order filed
10/31/06 - 1st degree arson
10/31/06 - Malicious injury to property
12/04/06 - Peeing on an officer, resisting arrest, public drunk.
5/24/07 - public drunk.
12/25/07 - public drunk.
5/28/08 - DUI.
7/28/08 - Breaking and entering with unlawful intent in violation of 21 O.S. 1438. (filed as criminal misdemeanor)
www.myspace.com/killflesh
So why is this POS walking around loose?
Channel 2 Works for you! I'm playing the waiting game. If this guy remains with a misdemeanor charge I'm going public with this deal.
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Originally posted by izmophonik
my gun..
Your gun huh? So it's ok to have a gun if you live in swan lake but with that avatar I'm assuming you're in favor of no one else having them.
Hope he comes back and makes you rethink some of your liberal ideals.
I'm impressed with the amount of energy you all have put into planning how best to kill an intruder. One shot or two, a warning shot or not, some yelling and some Dr. Phil, or silently and without eye contact. Was there a shotgun in there, too? I forget.
Anyhow, keep it up! Maybe we can fill up two pages of excellent gun porn!
On a completely separate note, Izmo, I'm terribly sorry for what happened to you and your family, and hope that the perp is corralled ASAP. If nothing comes of it with the DA, I'm glad you're ready to go to the press. One way or another, you've got a good sense of how to bring pressure to bear.
Also, what Macgyver said.
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Originally posted by izmophonik
my gun..
Your gun huh? So it's ok to have a gun if you live in swan lake but with that avatar I'm assuming you're in favor of no one else having them.
Hope he comes back and makes you rethink some of your liberal ideals.
When you can type something that is mildly intelligent you can post another comment. Otherwise, get off of this thread.
Response from initial communication with D.A.'s office:
"I am sorry that your family are crime victims.
I am in receipt of your message and will pull the file and have a supervisor review it and your message.
You should hear from an attorney on this matter. IF you do not hear from someone in a few days, please let me know so that I can make sure you are contacted."
...Updates as they come.
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Originally posted by izmophonik
Regardless of the outcome of this issue: Everyone living in the Maple Park, Maple Ridge, Swan Lake, Tracy Park, NOCHE should be watching out for this man.
It's not called Noche, FYI. The neighborhood decided on Cherry St. Village. I guess you could just call it the village if that doesn't sound trendy enough for you. Actually you can call the area anything you want, but that is what the neighborhood decided they wanted to be known as. Forrest Orchard is the neighborhood north of the BA between Peoria, Utica, and 11th.
People repeat things that they hear...I've heard NoChe more times than I can count so it stuck. If they came up with a real name for the area, so be it.
I agree, buy a new gun that your wife can handle/shoot so she can eliminate the threat in the future.
Buuut.. I'm glad to hear they were safe through the whole ordeal. I'd be equally pissed to find out someone that broke into my house and terrified my wife/kids was out walking the streets ready to do it again already. That is ridiculous. I look forward to hearing what the DA folks have to say.
Bust a cap, as internet tough guys say.
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Originally posted by John Redcorn
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Originally posted by izmophonik
my gun..
Your gun huh? So it's ok to have a gun if you live in swan lake but with that avatar I'm assuming you're in favor of no one else having them.
Hope he comes back and makes you rethink some of your liberal ideals.
When you can type something that is mildly intelligent you can post another comment. Otherwise, get off of this thread.
You realize by supporting obama (he's a humongous gun grabber, in case you didn't know, you know if you were too enthralled by his charisma and race to pay attention to anything else) you're going to be supporting not allowing guns to people who might live in a little bit more dangerous neighborhoods than swan lake right? But it's OK for you to have one right? Tell me what makes it ok for you to have one but not anyone else.
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Tell me what makes it ok for you to have one but not anyone else.
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1. I know what Obama stands for.
2. The right to bear arms will never be removed as a constitutional right.
3. Where the **** to you get off that I'm telling other people they can't have a gun. I have never said anything at all that even remotely sounded like that.
4. Take off your tin foil hat and stop making an donkey out yourself on the entire forum.
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Originally posted by izmophonik
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Originally posted by John Redcorn
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Originally posted by izmophonik
my gun..
Your gun huh? So it's ok to have a gun if you live in swan lake but with that avatar I'm assuming you're in favor of no one else having them.
Hope he comes back and makes you rethink some of your liberal ideals.
When you can type something that is mildly intelligent you can post another comment. Otherwise, get off of this thread.
You realize by supporting obama (he's a humongous gun grabber, in case you didn't know, you know if you were too enthralled by his charisma and race to pay attention to anything else) you're going to be supporting not allowing guns to people who might live in a little bit more dangerous neighborhoods than swan lake right? But it's OK for you to have one right? Tell me what makes it ok for you to have one but not anyone else.
Here, let me help you with that..
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Nice one Hoss. [8D] ..Back to topic though; I got a call from the D.A's office. I missed the call but he said he wanted to put my mind at ease. I'm crossing my fingers for good news. I'll call him back and update everyone tomorrow.
Just curious. If someone was strung up on drugs, irrespective of the breaking into the house and trashing it thing, shouldn't they be in jail and or getting some rehabilitation for that alone? He should at least have to be in some sort of treatment program.
What do they do with people they find like that? I have actually never really thought much about this kind of thing, just thought it was all taken care of in some responsible manner but not so sure after hearing about his track reckord with the law. Is there any way to find a track reckord of his treatment and rehabilitation programs, or do they keep that private?
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Just curious. If someone was strung up on drugs, irrespective of the breaking into the house and trashing it thing, shouldn't they be in jail and or getting some rehabilitation for that alone? He should at least have to be in some sort of treatment program.
What do they do with people they find like that? I have actually never really thought much about this kind of thing, just thought it was all taken care of in some responsible manner but not so sure after hearing about his track reckord with the law. Is there any way to find a track reckord of his treatment and rehabilitation programs, or do they keep that private?
Drug afflicted, mentally ill, or straight up POS, he needs to be addressed appropriately and not hangin out about town as if he never traumatize a family and put himself in a position where he would be justifiably killed!
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Just curious. If someone was strung up on drugs, irrespective of the breaking into the house and trashing it thing, shouldn't they be in jail and or getting some rehabilitation for that alone? He should at least have to be in some sort of treatment program.
What do they do with people they find like that? I have actually never really thought much about this kind of thing, just thought it was all taken care of in some responsible manner but not so sure after hearing about his track reckord with the law. Is there any way to find a track reckord of his treatment and rehabilitation programs, or do they keep that private?
Drug afflicted, mentally ill, or straight up POS, he needs to be addressed appropriately and not hangin out about town as if he never traumatize a family and put himself in a position where he might have been justifiably killed!
Obama is not a gun grabber. He has some very rational ideas on semi-automatics and concele-carry laws, however.
Here is some real info on Obama's positions...
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm
Better re-check that RM, just reading the article you cited, either he's glib on guns or he's a gun grabber. Either one is unacceptable. Obama understands nothing about guns, lawful gun ownership, nor the illegal gun trade. Other than the DNC's sham NRA alternative, the NHSA, he does not have the approval of the majority of sportsmen and gun owners:
"Barack Obama on Gun Control
Democratic Jr Senator (IL)
Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws
Q: Is the D.C. law prohibiting ownership of handguns consistent with an individual's right to bear arms?
A: As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.
Codespeak for "We will take your guns, if we see fit"
Q: But do you still favor the registration & licensing of guns?
A: I think we can provide common-sense approaches to the issue of illegal guns that are ending up on the streets. We can make sure that criminals don't have guns in their hands. We can make certain that those who are mentally deranged are not getting a hold of handguns. We can trace guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers that may be selling to straw purchasers and dumping them on the streets.
No you can't keep the criminally-minded from possessing guns. That is the exact reason why there does not need to be restrictions on the lawful use of firearms. One of thsoe lawful uses is my right to possess a handgun to protect myself and my family from an armed intruder in my home.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008
FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban
Obama was being misleading when he denied that his handwriting had been on a document endorsing a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois. Obama responded, "No, my writing wasn't on that particular questionnaire. As I said, I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns."
Actually, Obama's writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate. A Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois, had this question, and Obama took hard line:
35. Do you support state legislation to:
a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.
Obama's campaign said, "Sen. Obama didn't fill out these state Senate questionnaires--a staffer did--and there are several answers that didn't reflect his views then or now. He may have jotted some notes on the front page of the questionnaire, but some answers didn't reflect his views."
Q: When you were in the state senate, you talked about licensing and registering gun owners. Would you do that as president?
A: I don't think that we can get that done. But what we can do is to provide just some common-sense enforcement. The efforts by law enforcement to obtain the information required to trace back guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers. As president, I intend to make it happen. We essentially have two realities, when it comes to guns, in this country. You've got the tradition of lawful gun ownership. It is very important for many Americans to be able to hunt, fish, take their kids out, teach them how to shoot. Then you've got the reality of 34 Chicago public school students who get shot down on the streets of Chicago. We can reconcile those two realities by making sure the Second Amendment is respected and that people are able to lawfully own guns, but that we also start cracking down on the kinds of abuses of firearms that we see on the streets.
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he does not have the approval of the majority of sportsmen and gun owners:
You forgot the best part of that article:
"believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and that our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manfuacturer's lobby"
Inner cities huh? That's democrat-speak for "I don't want no darkies having guns." Democrats usually due to latent racism and white guilt want to micro-manage minorities lives or at least pat themselves on the back for throwing a lot of tax money their way "Oh those poor darkies, what ever would they do without us good liberal white people helping them out?"
Gosh, keeping guns out of the hands of the "inner-city" kinda sounds a lot like the very first US gun control laws enacted right after the civil war. Where? the south. Why? to keep guns out of the hands of darkies.
So maybe that means guns will be banned just in north tulsa and maybe this guy will go do a home invasion over there on some folks who had their rights stripped away from them. Perhaps they won't be as lucky.
A vote for Obama is a vote for Jim Crow.
Hey Redcorn, take you and your tin foil hat and get off of this thread. There are forums for this kind of mindless political ranting you seem to love to do. Head on down to the political forum and stop hijacking this thread.
No callback from the D.A.'s office today. Hopefully I'll have an answer on Monday.
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Originally posted by izmophonik
I will be calling the D.A. today. Here's what I know about this punk so far. He's been in trouble for a solid 18 months. His wrap sheet includes:
4/10/06 - Protective order filed
10/31/06 - 1st degree arson
10/31/06 - Malicious injury to property
12/04/06 - Peeing on an officer, resisting arrest, public drunk.
5/24/07 - public drunk.
12/25/07 - public drunk.
5/28/08 - DUI.
7/28/08 - Breaking and entering with unlawful intent in violation of 21 O.S. 1438. (filed as criminal misdemeanor)
www.myspace.com/killflesh
How the heck to these repeat offenders keep getting off like this? Heck, if I did any two of those things they'd probably lock me up for a good while.
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12/04/06 - Peeing on an officer
He must be able to walk...very...quietly...
Dead Bolts cannot be pushed back. They are built with mechanism that when it is locked then it required a key to slide the bolt back.
Although response from the DA office is slow in forthcoming you will find they respond in a timely manner.
The solution to the reoccurrence of such incidents would be to install a door chain at the cost of under $10,00 as breaking and entering requires physical evidence not hearsay.
Justifying the taking of a persons life could require a long legal procedure as well as effecting the mentality of the one who is the taker.
hear anything from the DA yet?