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Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: Jitter Free on August 03, 2008, 03:18:37 PM
I am new to the board and saw a similar thread but I can't seem to find it again now.  I think the previous thread had to do with who do you think or who have you heard will run for mayor next year.  I think the responses were Councilors Eagleton, Christiansen and Martinson.  

My question for the board is a little different.  If you had your pick of anyone (Republican, Democrat, or Independent) running who would you like to see run for mayor next year?  With the goal being to elect the possible mayor for the city.    





Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: Conan71 on August 03, 2008, 03:32:50 PM
I don't think Christiansen has the time or inclination to be a full-time politician.  I'd like to see Eagleton run, no word if he's considering or not.

I'd say since KT didn't jump in for the U.S. HOR or Senate, she's re-upping.

Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: FOTD on August 03, 2008, 03:32:52 PM
We're getting our monies worth now......
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: Jitter Free on August 03, 2008, 03:43:55 PM
I think Kathy Taylor will run again too.  I'm not a Taylor supporter though.  

I am a Republican and I would like to see someone new run.  I don't have any names for you which is why I posed the question.  IMO whoever it is they will either need to have the grass roots behind them or a lot of money to keep up with Taylor's machine.  

Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: FOTD on August 03, 2008, 04:03:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Jitter Free

I think Kathy Taylor will run again too.  I'm not a Taylor supporter though.  

I am a Republican and I would like to see someone new run.  I don't have any names for you which is why I posed the question.  IMO whoever it is they will either need to have the grass roots behind them or a lot of money to keep up with Taylor's machine.  





Not a good idea to go around telling others' you are a repiglican. [:P]
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: waterboy on August 03, 2008, 04:06:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by Jitter Free

I think Kathy Taylor will run again too.  I'm not a Taylor supporter though.  

I am a Republican and I would like to see someone new run.  I don't have any names for you which is why I posed the question.  IMO whoever it is they will either need to have the grass roots behind them or a lot of money to keep up with Taylor's machine.  





Not a good idea to go around telling others' you are a repiglican. [:P]



It's worse to admit you're a Democrat around here! You're likely to lose your job or your friends.

Taylor is just Ok with me. Can't think of another Dem who, given the political environment, could do any better.
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: Friendly Bear on August 03, 2008, 04:39:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by Jitter Free

I think Kathy Taylor will run again too.  I'm not a Taylor supporter though.  

I am a Republican and I would like to see someone new run.  I don't have any names for you which is why I posed the question.  IMO whoever it is they will either need to have the grass roots behind them or a lot of money to keep up with Taylor's machine.  





Not a good idea to go around telling others' you are a repiglican. [:P]



It's worse to admit you're a Democrat around here! You're likely to lose your job or your friends.

Taylor is just Ok with me. Can't think of another Dem who, given the political environment, could do any better.



HRH Mayor Kathy Taylor has her sights on higher office.

In 2010, I predict she'll run for:

Oklahoma GOVERNOR.

Gov. Bad Brad Henry is term-limited.

She'll roll out of office as Mayor in early 2010, and can devote the next six months to running full time for Governor.



Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: TURobY on August 03, 2008, 04:43:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

In 2010, I predict she'll run for:

Oklahoma GOVERNOR.



That would be perfectly alright with me. I liked her as mayor, and I'm sure I would like her as governor.
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: Friendly Bear on August 03, 2008, 06:20:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

In 2010, I predict she'll run for:

Oklahoma GOVERNOR.



That would be perfectly alright with me. I liked her as mayor, and I'm sure I would like her as governor.



Perfect timing for her.

If approved by voters, her proposed $451 million tax increase for street improvements will commence in 2010, about the time she departs office.

And, the city operating budget will just start experiencing the hemorrage caused by the opening and operation of the BOK Arena.

The debt service (interest only for TEN years) on the new city hall at OTC won't have ramped up to include Principal payments until some years later.

Shrewd.

And, the first year's bite of new taxes for the downtown BID to build the new Driller Stadium will only be a year old; hardly noticeable until the tax notices hit the downtown businesses and landlords at end-of-year.

Her Tulsa Legacy will be Higher Taxes.

Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: TheArtist on August 03, 2008, 08:20:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

In 2010, I predict she'll run for:

Oklahoma GOVERNOR.



That would be perfectly alright with me. I liked her as mayor, and I'm sure I would like her as governor.



Perfect timing for her.

If approved by voters, her proposed $451 million tax increase for street improvements will commence in 2010, about the time she departs office.

And, the city operating budget will just start experiencing the hemorrage caused by the opening and operation of the BOK Arena.

The debt service (interest only for TEN years) on the new city hall at OTC won't have ramped up to include Principal payments until some years later.

Shrewd.

And, the first year's bite of new taxes for the downtown BID to build the new Driller Stadium will only be a year old; hardly noticeable until the tax notices hit the downtown businesses and landlords at end-of-year.

Her Tulsa Legacy will be Higher Taxes.





Yaaaay! [8D], and she still has more time. By late 2010 there will already be a marked improvement in downtown, and I think by 2012 we will begin to see solid, positive, results from all these efforts. I would like to see her run for one more term as Mayor. But am just glad we had her for this one. We needed someone who was willing to take chances, work extra hard to push things forward, and have the vision and fortitude to hold the line against the naysayers and their "nimby, no no no, hate downtown" agenda.

Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: inteller on August 03, 2008, 08:35:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

In 2010, I predict she'll run for:

Oklahoma GOVERNOR.



That would be perfectly alright with me. I liked her as mayor, and I'm sure I would like her as governor.



Perfect timing for her.

If approved by voters, her proposed $451 million tax increase for street improvements will commence in 2010, about the time she departs office.

And, the city operating budget will just start experiencing the hemorrage caused by the opening and operation of the BOK Arena.

The debt service (interest only for TEN years) on the new city hall at OTC won't have ramped up to include Principal payments until some years later.

Shrewd.

And, the first year's bite of new taxes for the downtown BID to build the new Driller Stadium will only be a year old; hardly noticeable until the tax notices hit the downtown businesses and landlords at end-of-year.

Her Tulsa Legacy will be Higher Taxes.





Yaaaay! [8D], and she still has more time. By late 2010 there will already be a marked improvement in downtown, and I think by 2012 we will begin to see solid, positive, results from all these efforts. I would like to see her run for one more term as Mayor. But am just glad we had her for this one. We needed someone who was willing to take chances, work extra hard to push things forward, and have the vision and fortitude to hold the line against the naysayers and their "nimby, no no no, hate downtown" agenda.






oh yes, taking chances like giving away 7.1 mil of taxpayer dollars is just what we need!
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: FOTD on August 03, 2008, 08:40:33 PM
She won't run against Drew. But outside chance she'd run for office in Florida....
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: inteller on August 03, 2008, 08:51:28 PM
pft...with her ego?  she'll run if God was on the other ticket.
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: Double A on August 03, 2008, 09:38:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by TURobY

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

In 2010, I predict she'll run for:

Oklahoma GOVERNOR.



That would be perfectly alright with me. I liked her as mayor, and I'm sure I would like her as governor.



Perfect timing for her.

If approved by voters, her proposed $451 million tax increase for street improvements will commence in 2010, about the time she departs office.

And, the city operating budget will just start experiencing the hemorrage caused by the opening and operation of the BOK Arena.

The debt service (interest only for TEN years) on the new city hall at OTC won't have ramped up to include Principal payments until some years later.

Shrewd.

And, the first year's bite of new taxes for the downtown BID to build the new Driller Stadium will only be a year old; hardly noticeable until the tax notices hit the downtown businesses and landlords at end-of-year.

Her Tulsa Legacy will be Higher Taxes.





Reminds me of Susan Savage. Queen Kathy will probably buy herself a nice, safe, appointment somewhere to shield herself from the fallout, just like Savage Sue.
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: waterboy on August 03, 2008, 09:50:43 PM
^blah, blah, blah...no real response or need to stay on thread.
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: Conan71 on August 04, 2008, 12:18:11 AM
Like her and her initiatives or not, she's effective and gets things done she sets her mind to.

I can't say that's necessarily a bad thing in a leader.
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: shadows on August 04, 2008, 06:57:18 PM
Tulsa, with all its educational entities, has not been able to produce anyone who is intelligent enough to be a leader and thus are forced to look outside of the city for leadership.  In fact near half of  the city employees live outside the city.

The upper class who feed off the lower class that is a burden to the children and elderly will spend millions of the taxpayers money in a search of an another outsider when this one is ready to move on.  
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: Double A on August 04, 2008, 10:17:35 PM
I heard Lafortune's been calling around a bit, testing the waters.[:D]

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Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: tulsa1603 on August 04, 2008, 10:28:40 PM
Love her or hate her, Kathy Taylor has gotten things moving.  A breath of fresh air after years of do nothing Lafortune.

At this point, I'll vote for her again.
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: Bat Bat on August 05, 2008, 12:18:40 PM
It seems like the Dems have their lady.  Here are some names for the Reps:

Bob Sullivan.  Ran for governor.  Might be interesting to see what he can do with the city.

Terry Simonson.  Used to be the golden boy of the grass roots until his folly with Randi Miller.

Clay Bird.  Don't know what the bird man is doing these days.

Cason Carter. If he loses his senate race.  I don't get the feeling he really wants to practice law.

Others????






Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: cks511 on August 05, 2008, 12:33:47 PM
Seems like when I respond....it dies..so let me say that when I hear folks saying da mare has  been 'effective'(?)...pancakes?  hoping this dies!
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: rwarn17588 on August 05, 2008, 01:12:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Bat Bat

It seems like the Dems have their lady.  Here are some names for the Reps:

Bob Sullivan.  Ran for governor.  Might be interesting to see what he can do with the city.

Terry Simonson.  Used to be the golden boy of the grass roots until his folly with Randi Miller.

Clay Bird.  Don't know what the bird man is doing these days.

Cason Carter. If he loses his senate race.  I don't get the feeling he really wants to practice law.

Others????




G.T. Bynum.

I'm pretty sure he wants the job.

But if he's going to make a play for it, he'd better do something, anything, fairly quickly.
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: RecycleMichael on August 05, 2008, 01:27:25 PM
I think we should take turns being Mayor.

Sell lottery tickets...scratch and win the job for a day.

Either that or we work with a radio station and let the tenth caller do it.
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: Bat Bat on August 05, 2008, 01:51:35 PM
IMO if the Reps want KT out of office they are going to all need to get behind one candidate.  

The Reps can't afford to have another LaFortune scenario.  One Rep faction supporting him and another Rep faction slamming him day in and day out.  Then with a month or so to go in the race they all decide to sing a song together, kiss and make up and push LaFortune together.  That one faction beat up LaFortune too much for too many years to undo the damage that they did (or that LaForutne did to himself) in a month or two.

With the money KT has the Reps also can't afford a money battled primary.  IMO all of the Reps are going to have to get behind one candidate and run that candidate hard for a year or so.

Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: Conan71 on August 05, 2008, 02:29:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Bat Bat

IMO if the Reps want KT out of office they are going to all need to get behind one candidate.  

The Reps can't afford to have another LaFortune scenario.  One Rep faction supporting him and another Rep faction slamming him day in and day out.  Then with a month or so to go in the race they all decide to sing a song together, kiss and make up and push LaFortune together.  That one faction beat up LaFortune too much for too many years to undo the damage that they did (or that LaForutne did to himself) in a month or two.

With the money KT has the Reps also can't afford a money battled primary.  IMO all of the Reps are going to have to get behind one candidate and run that candidate hard for a year or so.





We alreday suffer with a near two-year campaign cycle for President these days.  I don't think Tulsans will tolerate a year-long mayoral campaign.  All it will amount to is the GOP candidate sniping about the mayor for a year.  That's what we have Mudschlock for.

Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: FOTD on August 05, 2008, 03:27:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Double A

I heard Lafortune's been calling around a bit, testing the waters.[:D]

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Could Bill be running Kathy??? .......(who might have been running Bill). Figure that pun out.

Kat fight?

Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: Double A on August 05, 2008, 08:03:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD


Could Bill be running Kathy??? .......(who might have been running Bill). Figure that pun out.

Kat fight?





Kathy Taylor vs. Kathy LaFortune? That would be an interesting horse race for Mare, indeed.
Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: inteller on August 07, 2008, 10:00:10 PM
Here will be the platform I will vote for:

Bring a charter change to vote within one year to change the form of government to a weak mayor and hire a city manager.  Becomes little more than a tie breaking vote on the council. (we'd need another district to even things up)

Move the chief of police job out from under the mayor's at will hires.

Establish a Tulsa Chamber of Commerce to lobby Tulsa's interests in OKC and cease contributing to Tulsa Metro chamber.

Get a Tulsa planning commission established and stop funding INCOG/TMAPC. (this may happen anyways)

Sell OTC and move city hall to the geographic center of town.

Pledge to only run for one term.


Title: Mayoral Election - Next Year
Post by: FOTD on August 07, 2008, 10:02:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

Here will be the platform I will vote for:

Bring a charter change to vote within one year to change the form of government to a weak mayor and hire a city manager.  Becomes little more than a tie breaking vote on the council. (we'd need another district to even things up)

Move the chief of police job out from under the mayor's at will hires.

Establish a Tulsa Chamber of Commerce to lobby Tulsa's interests in OKC and cease contributing to Tulsa Metro chamber.

Get a Tulsa planning commission established and stop funding INCOG/TMAPC. (this may happen anyways)

Sell OTC and move city hall to the geographic center of town.

Pledge to only run for one term.






Guess you won't be voting.....[:P]